Re: Jarrow whey, vs. NOW

December 26, 2008

Which Jarrow Whey did you get, was it the unflavored one? Thanks,

Christie

December 26, 2008

Sol, from which web site did you buy the Jarrow Whey? And at what cost? Is this

whey the un-denatured type in which the sulphur containing amino acids are

preserved?

Thanks.

Ratan. ratanpsych@...

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On Fri, 26 Dec 2008 sol wrote :

> I FINALLY managed to get the NOW brand used up (5 lbs---since I

>hated it and felt nauseous from it always, that took a very long time).

> A couple days ago, I started back on Jarrow whey. I can drink it

>mixed with water only, no problem, it doesn't make me feel nauseous like

>the NOW brand did, doesn't taste bad to me, and I no longer have to

>force myself to take my whey. Reading labels, I don't see anything

>obvious that would make me react so differently, but I will stick with

>the Jarrow brand from now on.

> I really thought I'd never be anything but revolted by whey again.

>It actually took nerve to order the Jarrow again. Afraid it would be a

>waste of money, as I'm about past my limit of gagging down stuff I found

>nauseating. I thought maybe something in ME had changed and that is why

>I was having so much problem with whey. Turns out it was just the brand

>that didn't agree with me. Before I bought the NOW, I also tried

>Designer Whey--not as bad as the NOW, but I didn't like it either. So it

>had been a LOOONG time since I had any whey I could actually bear to take.

>sol

>

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December 27, 2008

Have you tried Immunopro? It's a powder and the amount you need to

take is much smaller than the other kind I tried (Imuplus--that was

like drinking chalk sludge). It can be taken dry or in a beverage. it

tastes pretty good. It's made by Well Wisdom, wellwisdom.com and they

sell it; I got it on immunesupport.com.

Vicky

>

> I FINALLY managed to get the NOW brand used up (5 lbs---since I

> hated it and felt nauseous from it always, that took a very long time).

> A couple days ago, I started back on Jarrow whey. I can drink it

December 28, 2008

Yes, the unflavored one, and the chocolate. I mix them at about 2/3

plain and 1/3 of the chocolate.

sol

weighttrainer wrote:

> Which Jarrow Whey did you get, was it the unflavored one? Thanks,

> Christie

>

December 28, 2008

I ordered from iHerb. Duncan has said that by the label info this whey

does contain the amino acid profile we want.

On 6-27-2008 Duncan wrote this about Jarrow whey:

> WHEY PROTEIN is a 100% natural protein concentrate of whey and is

> ultrafiltered to be low in fat, lactose and carbohydrates. WHEY

> PROTEIN is a rich source of glutamine-rich proteins. 51% of the

> proteins found in whey are from BLG (Beta-Lactoglobulin), 20% of whey

> is ALB (Alpha-Lactalbumin), 10% Immunoglobulin, 10% Albumin, and 7%

> minor fractions.

>

> These proteins ARE in fact the undenatured proteins that would be

> broken by boiling. We know they are undenatured because they would be

> broken and therefore not exist in denatured whey....

>

> Put another way, nutritionist Brad King recommends " high-alpha " whey,

> and this brand is 20% alpha-lactalbumin and also contains the other

> glutahtione precursors.

sol

Ratan Sharma wrote:

> Sol, from which web site did you buy the Jarrow Whey? And at what cost? Is

this whey the un-denatured type in which the sulphur containing amino acids are

preserved?

>

December 28, 2008

Do you have any idea why the NOW one made you feel bad? I have not

tried the NOW nor the Jarrow yet. I may try the Jarrow unflavored

since it mentioned it does not have pesticides etc on the website.

Christie

December 28, 2008

No, I haven't, and I won't be trying it either. My budget constraints

won't stretch that far. No matter how wonderful it may be.

sol

multitoed wrote:

> Have you tried Immunopro? It's a powder and the amount you need to

> take is much smaller than the other kind I tried (Imuplus--that was

> like drinking chalk sludge). It can be taken dry or in a beverage. it

> tastes pretty good. It's made by Well Wisdom, wellwisdom.com and they

> sell it; I got it on immunesupport.com.

>

December 28, 2008

It's actually better in my opinion to use more whey of somewhat lower

quality as a glutathione precursor because most of our approaches

involve increasing and maintaining metabolic rate, and the higher dose

is more likely to do that.

Duncan

> >

> > I FINALLY managed to get the NOW brand used up (5 lbs---since

I

> > hated it and felt nauseous from it always, that took a very long

time).

> > A couple days ago, I started back on Jarrow whey. I can drink

it

>

December 29, 2008

Hi,

If you look at the amount of servings per jar and the price of each,

the Immunopro is just a little bit more than the Jarrow, and (in my

opinion) you may just be paying for filler with the lower quality,

though Duncan says to stick to the lower quality for metabolic reasons

(I don't know anything about that aspect). The Immunopro serving size

is very small--that's why it's easier to consume--and you don't need

liquid with it.

Vicky

> > Have you tried Immunopro? It's a powder and the amount you need to

> > take is much smaller than the other kind I tried (Imuplus--that was

> > like drinking chalk sludge). It can be taken dry or in a beverage.

it

> > tastes pretty good. It's made by Well Wisdom, wellwisdom.com and

they

> > sell it; I got it on immunesupport.com.

> >

>

December 29, 2008

weighttrainer wrote:

> Do you have any idea why the NOW one made you feel bad? I have not

> tried the NOW nor the Jarrow yet. I may try the Jarrow unflavored

> since it mentioned it does not have pesticides etc on the website.

>

It was partly the flavor and texture of it. The Jarrow just doesn't

have a nasty sort of taste to me, which the NOW brand definitely did.

The only real difference I see in the labels is the NOW contains

xanthan gum, " natural color " (could be anything!) and malic acid. Any of

those could make it taste bad to me. But something more affected me too

because I felt unwell with an unsettled stomach after drinking it, also.

I have suspected xanthan gum doesn't agree with me before with some food

products, but others that have it are fine. So basically I have some

suspects but no certainty. I don't think the malic acid per se would

upset my stomach, as I've taken it in Magnesium malate with no problem

other than diarrhea.

sol

December 29, 2008

Thanks Sol for all the information. I have a lot of problems like this

with different products so learning what other people have problems

with can sometimes help me figure out things as well.

Thanks, Christie

December 30, 2008

I believe xantham gum is derived from soy, so if you have soy sensitivity,

that would've definitely done it. I don't know why it wouldn't bother you at

times though...

On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 6:14 PM, sol <solbun@...> wrote:

> weighttrainer wrote:

> > Do you have any idea why the NOW one made you feel bad? I have not

> > tried the NOW nor the Jarrow yet. I may try the Jarrow unflavored

> > since it mentioned it does not have pesticides etc on the website.

> >

> It was partly the flavor and texture of it. The Jarrow just doesn't

> have a nasty sort of taste to me, which the NOW brand definitely did.

> The only real difference I see in the labels is the NOW contains

> xanthan gum, " natural color " (could be anything!) and malic acid. Any of

> those could make it taste bad to me. But something more affected me too

> because I felt unwell with an unsettled stomach after drinking it, also.

> I have suspected xanthan gum doesn't agree with me before with some food

> products, but others that have it are fine. So basically I have some

> suspects but no certainty. I don't think the malic acid per se would

> upset my stomach, as I've taken it in Magnesium malate with no problem

> other than diarrhea.

> sol

>

December 30, 2008

Good point, I didn't actually do the math. Just looking at the pics

the jar it looks like Immunopro costs like 20 times as much, so at

least it's not quite that bad. I take it for immunity not protein

(An egg has 6 grams, so 2 eggs gives you 12g, cheap.)

multi

> > Hi,

> >

> > If you look at the amount of servings per jar and the price of

each,

> > the Immunopro is just a little bit more than the Jarrow, and (in

my

> > opinion) you may just be paying for filler with the lower

quality,

> > though Duncan says to stick to the lower quality for metabolic

reasons

> > (I don't know anything about that aspect). The Immunopro serving

size

> > is very small--that's why it's easier to consume--and you don't

need

> > liquid with it.

> >

>

December 31, 2008

Try this link for a simple explaination of Xantham gum.

http://www.perryvidex.com/perry/perryweb.nsf/Index?OpenForm & industry=W

Joan

candidiasis@...: katie.mccartney@...: Tue, 30 Dec

2008 09:49:17 -0500Subject: Re: Re: Jarrow whey, vs. NOW

I believe xantham gum is derived from soy, so if you have soy sensitivity,that

would've definitely done it. I don't know why it wouldn't bother you attimes

though...On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 6:14 PM, sol <solbun@...> wrote:>

weighttrainer wrote:> > Do you have any idea why the NOW one made you feel bad?

I have not> > tried the NOW nor the Jarrow yet. I may try the Jarrow unflavored>

> since it mentioned it does not have pesticides etc on the website.> >> It was

partly the flavor and texture of it. The Jarrow just doesn't> have a nasty sort

of taste to me, which the NOW brand definitely did.> The only real difference I

see in the labels is the NOW contains> xanthan gum, " natural color " (could be

anything!) and malic acid. Any of> those could make it taste bad to me. But

something more affected me too> because I felt unwell with an unsettled stomach

after drinking it, also.> I have suspected xanthan gum doesn't agree with me

before with some food> products, but others that have it are fine. So basically

I have some> suspects but no certainty. I don't think the malic acid per se

would> upset my stomach, as I've taken it in Magnesium malate with no problem>

other than diarrhea.> sol>

December 31, 2008

I'm sorry about that link that replaced the correct link...try this

http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-xanthan-gum.htm

candidiasis@...: rosegardenstudio@...: Wed, 31 Dec

2008 08:24:41 -0500Subject: RE: Re: Jarrow whey, vs. NOW

Try this link for a simple explaination of Xantham

gum.http://www.perryvidex.com/perry/perryweb.nsf/Index?OpenForm & industry=WJoanTo\

: candidiasis@...: katie.mccartney@...: Tue, 30 Dec

2008 09:49:17 -0500Subject: Re: Re: Jarrow whey, vs. NOWI believe

xantham gum is derived from soy, so if you have soy sensitivity,that would've

definitely done it. I don't know why it wouldn't bother you attimes though...On

Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 6:14 PM, sol <solbun@...> wrote:>