Re: Was....apologies...now smoking

[Guest guest]

I've been told that there is something spiritual about the act of

smoking. Uh-oh did I hear a loud communal groan?!

I also am very anti-smoking and was surprised to learn in my Western

Medicine class how many diseases are brought on and/or exacerbated by

smoking. It is a horrible habit and the hardest of all addictions.

I've heard that people that work with addictive behaviors would rather

work with a heroin addict than a smoker.

I heard about the following website on NPR. It's had great ratings at

helping people to quit.

http://www.quitnet.com/

Then there's that adrenal connection:

" People that have a diminished output of cortisol can exhibit any of

the following symptoms - they will crave substances that will

temporarily raise their serum glucose level such as caffeine, sweets,

soda or juice, tobacco, marijuana. "

I've seen some nice success stories come thru the

clinic....acupuncture helps but I think the herbs are the key. One

woman detoxed thru her skin and had a period of acne immediately

upon quitting. Another guy had absolutely no withdrawal, no

symptoms, no detox....he was a roofer and sweated buckets as a job

description! He was detoxing daily and all he had to do was not put

the thing in his mouth anymore....got a different oral fixation, I guess!

Kit

--- In health , " Kathy " <vanokat@m...>

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> I for one am glad you accidently posted your message . I am a heavy

> smoker - need I say more??

> Blessings to you.

> Kathy

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[Guest guest]

Hi Tone,

You are totally correct....the will has to be there first. In fact,

we won't treat anyone if the desire to quit is not there. My first

question is always " have you had your last cigarette? " . I'm not

unforgiving regarding backsliding....but if someone is coming looking

for desire to be magically instilled...it ain't gonna happen. We can

only help with the cravings, detox and healing and restoring the

lungs.....and the emotions involved, too.

As far as smokers understanding smokers, I believe that has to do with

surrounding oneself with a support network.

All the best on quitting again. You might investigate nebulizers or

there also something called a Volcano (kinda expensive) for inhaling

tobacco vapor without the smoke....I think it's a quit smoking device

just a thought.

BTW: I am an ex-smoker. Here and in Europe...blond and black

tobacco....filtered, unfiltered, menthol.

One help with the heat...watch some 'snow' movies....Dr. Zhivalgo,

Himalaya, Smilla's Sense of Snow, Vertical Limit, I've got some

Alaskan travelogues, as well. I start putting my snow scenes up on

the fridge as well....but then I go thru this every summer in Texas.

:-)

Kit

> Hi Kit,

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> Hope all is well with you. Only a smoker can understand another

smoker. Gosh, if it were that easy we could all be saving our health

along with those around us and our pockets.

> In or about 1999, I quit for three months. I was working an

extrememely busy job where I was never still. I went the Zyban route

first. That week was sheer hell and figured that it helped you to quit

because it would eventually kill you. The side effects were

horrendous. It did not take away from the grueling withdrawals though.

The following weekend I spent the entire time on the floor in a fetal

position feeling like someone was tearing my guts out. Well, I did go

a whole 3 months. Gained 16 pounds and on a little tree trunk that is

saying alot..lol but lost it within a month on it's own. It took one

horrible day for me to run to the convience store to get just ONE. I

actually sat in that lot and smoked the entire pack.

> I started smoking when I was 12. That's kind of a long time ago. I

do not boast about it. I am literally ashamed and I have reaped many a

trouble from it. I think for me to lock me into a closet and throw

away the key would be the best thing. Sure would allow me to vent:)

Quitnet is a good site. Been there along with many others but the will

has to be there or it is all talk.

> For the ones that have never touched a cigarette, I truly do commend

you. I pray that I will be able to quit before it quits me.

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> Anyway hope you are all well and those who are sharing our heat, I

do pray you have found your own ways of relief from it.

> As for Peep...well never ever have I encounted such a stubborn and

moody cat as I have him. Must be why I love him so much.

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> Have a blessed evening all

> Tone