Re: Higher Glutathione Levels and Whey [Life Extension Magazine]

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If you can't have whey (I have severe reaction on a delayed sensitivity

test), then do you think the Glutathione compounded into a nasal spray

and used in a nebulizer is effective?

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_www.seigenusa.com_ (http://www.seigenusa.com) It is the most powerful

thing out there for candida or anything.

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Weighttrainer, arerosol glutathione enters the cells of the sinus, but

it does not get past them into the blood or other cells to elevate

systemic glutathione. It affects only the local cells of certain

areas, the sinus, the lungs, and the bowel.

Duncan

>

> If you can't have whey (I have severe reaction on a delayed

sensitivity

> test), then do you think the Glutathione compounded into a nasal

spray

> and used in a nebulizer is effective?

>

[Guest guest]

question duncan will High Glutathione Levels and Whey get rid of Candida? I

have tried everything you can think of and nothing has worked. I fear if I dont

get rid of this soon I will lose my job of 22 years with the goverment I feel

that bad most of the time. And does diet play a key role in getting rid of

Candida.

candidiasis@...: duncancrow@...: Tue, 22 Jul 2008

18:27:20 +0000Subject: Higher Glutathione Levels and Whey [Life

Extension Magazine]

><http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag97/nov-report97.html>></begin Excerpt>... These

research findings, combined with the previous decade of study on whey protein,

should convince anyone that whey protein concentrate is truly the life-extension

protein.Higher Glutathione Levels and Whey:A decade-and-a-half of findings on

the benefits of whey protein are far-reaching. Previous studies include the

following:Whey protein concentrate dramatically raises glutathione levels.

Glutathione is an essential water-soluble antioxidant in the body that protects

cells and serves as a primary detoxifier of harmful compounds such as peroxides,

heavy metals, carcinogens and other toxins. Glutathione also is intimately tied

to immunity, and reduced glutathione levels have been associated with disease

such as AIDS, atherosclerosis, Alzheimer's disease and Parkinson's disease, to

name only a few. In fact, glutathione levels appear to be one way of modulating

immunity.(nne K., Fidelus and Min Fu Tsan. Cellular Immunology, 1986) Whey

protein concentrate was found to consistently raise this extremely important

immune stimulating antioxidant beyond that of any protein studied (including

soy) to higher than normal levels in multiple animal studies. (Bounous G. and

Gold P., Clin. Invest. Med. 1991) A small pilot study with HIV-positive men who

were fed whey protein concentrate found dramatic increases in glutathione levels

of all the study participants, with two out of three men reaching their ideal

body weight. (Bounous G., Baruchel S., Faiutz J., Gold P., Clin. Invest. Med.

1992)In fact, there have been several U.S. and international patents granted for

the treatment of AIDS and improving immunity with whey protein concentrates.Whey

protein improves immune function and fights infections. Animals fed whey protein

concentrate consistently showed dramatic enhancement of both the humoral and

cellular immune response to a variety of immune challenges, such as salmonella,

streptococcus pneumonia (Bounous G., Konshavn P., Gold P., Clin. Invest. Med.

1988) and extreme cancer-causing chemicals. This effect on immunity was not seen

with other proteins. Whey protein concentrate fights cancer. Animals fed whey

protein ></end excerpt>

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has anybody tried this product?

candidiasis@...: Bobcat4956@...: Wed, 23 Jul 2008

11:36:21 -0400Subject: Re: Higher Glutathione Levels and Whey

[Life Extension Magazine]

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OF COURSE DIET is important. It must be very low carb at all times.

Bonnie

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From: candidiasis [mailto:candidiasis ] On

Behalf Of Bobby johnson

Sent: July 23, 2008 11:35 AM

candidiasis

Subject: RE: Higher Glutathione Levels and Whey [Life

Extension Magazine]

question duncan will High Glutathione Levels and Whey get rid of Candida? I

have tried everything you can think of and nothing has worked. I fear if I

dont get rid of this soon I will lose my job of 22 years with the goverment

I feel that bad most of the time. And does diet play a key role in getting

rid of Candida.

candidiasis@ <mailto:candidiasis%40From>

From: duncancrowshaw (DOT) <mailto:duncancrow%40shaw.caDate>

caDate: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:27:20 +0000Subject: Higher

Glutathione Levels and Whey [Life Extension Magazine]

><http://www.lef. <http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag97/nov-report97.html>

org/magazine/mag97/nov-report97.html>></begin Excerpt>... These research

findings, combined with the previous decade of study on whey protein, should

convince anyone that whey protein concentrate is truly the life-extension

protein.Higher Glutathione Levels and Whey:A decade-and-a-half of findings

on the benefits of whey protein are far-reaching. Previous studies include

the following:Whey protein concentrate dramatically raises glutathione

levels. Glutathione is an essential water-soluble antioxidant in the body

that protects cells and serves as a primary detoxifier of harmful compounds

such as peroxides, heavy metals, carcinogens and other toxins. Glutathione

also is intimately tied to immunity, and reduced glutathione levels have

been associated with disease such as AIDS, atherosclerosis, Alzheimer's

disease and Parkinson's disease, to name only a few. In fact, glutathione

levels appear to be one way of modulating immunity.(nne K., Fidelus and

Min Fu Tsan. Cellular Immunology, 1986) Whey protein concentrate was found

to consistently raise this extremely important immune stimulating

antioxidant beyond that of any protein studied (including soy) to higher

than normal levels in multiple animal studies. (Bounous G. and Gold P.,

Clin. Invest. Med. 1991) A small pilot study with HIV-positive men who were

fed whey protein concentrate found dramatic increases in glutathione levels

of all the study participants, with two out of three men reaching their

ideal body weight. (Bounous G., Baruchel S., Faiutz J., Gold P., Clin.

Invest. Med. 1992)In fact, there have been several U.S. and international

patents granted for the treatment of AIDS and improving immunity with whey

protein concentrates.Whey protein improves immune function and fights

infections. Animals fed whey protein concentrate consistently showed

dramatic enhancement of both the humoral and cellular immune response to a

variety of immune challenges, such as salmonella, streptococcus pneumonia

(Bounous G., Konshavn P., Gold P., Clin. Invest. Med. 1988) and extreme

cancer-causing chemicals. This effect on immunity was not seen with other

proteins. Whey protein concentrate fights cancer. Animals fed whey protein

></end excerpt>

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There are Glutathione precursors in this product (fairly new) call MaxGXL

and I imagine there are other products too, that do not contain milk

products, which I cannot tolerate.

Go and check it out

http://www.maxgxl.com/

Bonnie

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From: candidiasis [mailto:candidiasis ] On

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Sent: July 22, 2008 4:48 PM

candidiasis

Subject: Re: Higher Glutathione Levels and Whey [Life

Extension Magazine]

If you can't have whey (I have severe reaction on a delayed sensitivity

test), then do you think the Glutathione compounded into a nasal spray

and used in a nebulizer is effective?

[Guest guest]

thanks so how long should anyone with Candida be on this low carb diet?

Thanks

candidiasis@...: bonnieview@...: Wed, 23 Jul

2008 14:34:50 -0400Subject: RE: Higher Glutathione Levels and Whey

[Life Extension Magazine]

OF COURSE DIET is important. It must be very low carb at all times.Bonnie_____

From: candidiasis [mailto:candidiasis ] OnBehalf

Of Bobby johnsonSent: July 23, 2008 11:35 AMTo:

candidiasis@...: RE: Higher Glutathione Levels

and Whey [LifeExtension Magazine]question duncan will High Glutathione Levels

and Whey get rid of Candida? Ihave tried everything you can think of and nothing

has worked. I fear if Idont get rid of this soon I will lose my job of 22 years

with the govermentI feel that bad most of the time. And does diet play a key

role in gettingrid of Candida.candidiasis@

<mailto:candidiasis%40From>From: duncancrowshaw (DOT)

<mailto:duncancrow%40shaw.caDate>caDate: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:27:20 +0000Subject:

HigherGlutathione Levels and Whey [Life Extension

Magazine]><http://www.lef.

<http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag97/nov-report97.html>org/magazine/mag97/nov-repo\

rt97.html>></begin Excerpt>... These researchfindings, combined with the

previous decade of study on whey protein, shouldconvince anyone that whey

protein concentrate is truly the life-extensionprotein.Higher Glutathione Levels

and Whey:A decade-and-a-half of findingson the benefits of whey protein are

far-reaching. Previous studies includethe following:Whey protein concentrate

dramatically raises glutathionelevels. Glutathione is an essential water-soluble

antioxidant in the bodythat protects cells and serves as a primary detoxifier of

harmful compoundssuch as peroxides, heavy metals, carcinogens and other toxins.

Glutathionealso is intimately tied to immunity, and reduced glutathione levels

havebeen associated with disease such as AIDS, atherosclerosis,

Alzheimer'sdisease and Parkinson's disease, to name only a few. In fact,

glutathionelevels appear to be one way of modulating immunity.(nne K.,

Fidelus andMin Fu Tsan. Cellular Immunology, 1986) Whey protein concentrate was

foundto consistently raise this extremely important immune

stimulatingantioxidant beyond that of any protein studied (including soy) to

higherthan normal levels in multiple animal studies. (Bounous G. and Gold

P.,Clin. Invest. Med. 1991) A small pilot study with HIV-positive men who

werefed whey protein concentrate found dramatic increases in glutathione

levelsof all the study participants, with two out of three men reaching

theirideal body weight. (Bounous G., Baruchel S., Faiutz J., Gold P.,

Clin.Invest. Med. 1992)In fact, there have been several U.S. and

internationalpatents granted for the treatment of AIDS and improving immunity

with wheyprotein concentrates.Whey protein improves immune function and

fightsinfections. Animals fed whey protein concentrate consistently

showeddramatic enhancement of both the humoral and cellular immune response to

avariety of immune challenges, such as salmonella, streptococcus

pneumonia(Bounous G., Konshavn P., Gold P., Clin. Invest. Med. 1988) and

extremecancer-causing chemicals. This effect on immunity was not seen with

otherproteins. Whey protein concentrate fights cancer. Animals fed whey

protein></end excerpt>

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Bobby johnson wrote:

> thanks so how long should anyone with Candida be on this low carb diet?

Some of us will likely have to stay very low carb for life. It is

individual but some can do a period on very low carb (such as Atkins

induction) and once the candida is gone, with or without additional help

such as anti-fungals or caprylic acid, etc, can then broaden their diet

to include more carbs, even grain carbs for some people. But to go back

to the SAD (standard american diet) full of sugars and grains will often

result in a fast return of candida problems for many who have had a

candida overgrowth problem.

The reason is that candida is a normal human gut bacteria, and can't be

totally eradicated, nor would it stay eradicated if it could be 100%

eliminated. Therefore a diet high in candida's preferred foods can

stimulate a resurgence of overgrowth, at any time if such a diet goes on

long enough, depending on individual susceptibility to dysbiosis of candida.

my two cents,

sol

[Guest guest]

Hello, I had my Glutathione levels rechecked and where I was low

before it is normal now. This could be due to other supplements as

well maybe, but the site for the spray says it can cross the blood

brain barrier with the use of the nebulizer spray bottle.

> >

> > If you can't have whey (I have severe reaction on a delayed

> sensitivity

> > test), then do you think the Glutathione compounded into a nasal

> spray

> > and used in a nebulizer is effective?

> >

>

[Guest guest]

wow thanks sol this does not sound good its been a two year nitemare and hoping

to regain my life as I knew it.

candidiasis@...: solbun@...: Wed, 23 Jul

2008 15:54:00 -0600Subject: Re: Higher Glutathione Levels and Whey

[Life Extension Magazine]

Bobby johnson wrote:> thanks so how long should anyone with Candida be on this

low carb diet?Some of us will likely have to stay very low carb for life. It is

individual but some can do a period on very low carb (such as Atkins induction)

and once the candida is gone, with or without additional help such as

anti-fungals or caprylic acid, etc, can then broaden their diet to include more

carbs, even grain carbs for some people. But to go back to the SAD (standard

american diet) full of sugars and grains will often result in a fast return of

candida problems for many who have had a candida overgrowth problem.The reason

is that candida is a normal human gut bacteria, and can't be totally eradicated,

nor would it stay eradicated if it could be 100% eliminated. Therefore a diet

high in candida's preferred foods can stimulate a resurgence of overgrowth, at

any time if such a diet goes on long enough, depending on individual

susceptibility to dysbiosis of candida.my two cents,sol

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You know, basically it boils down to, " Your Food OR Your Life? " . Eating low

carb is not that bad when you consider all of the health benefits you get out of

making that choice. What are you waiting for?

Luv,

Debby in San , CA

147 pounds lost! 100% of health issues reversed!

Currently studying for Nutrition Certification and PhD in Psychology

Group: curingcandida/

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----- Original Message ----

> From: Bobby johnson

>

> wow thanks sol this does not sound good its been a two year nitemare and

hoping

> to regain my life as I knew it.

>

>

> Bobby johnson wrote:> thanks so how long should anyone with Candida be on this

> low carb diet?Some of us will likely have to stay very low carb for life. It

is

> individual but some can do a period on very low carb (such as Atkins

induction)

> and once the candida is gone, with or without additional help such as

> anti-fungals or caprylic acid, etc, can then broaden their diet to include

more

> carbs, even grain carbs for some people. But to go back to the SAD (standard

> american diet) full of sugars and grains will often result in a fast return of

> candida problems for many who have had a candida overgrowth problem.The reason

> is that candida is a normal human gut bacteria, and can't be totally

eradicated,

> nor would it stay eradicated if it could be 100% eliminated. Therefore a diet

> high in candida's preferred foods can stimulate a resurgence of overgrowth, at

> any time if such a diet goes on long enough, depending on individual

> susceptibility to dysbiosis of candida.my two cents,sol

[Guest guest]

FOR LIFE. No more pasta, bread, potatoes, sweet potatoes, coffee or tea

with sugar, no more soft drinks,carrots and anything with a high sugar

content.

Just stick to fish, meat and salad and some veggies.

Bonnie

thanks so how long should anyone with Candida be on this low carb diet?

Thanks

<mailto:candidiasis%40From>

candidiasis@...: <mailto:bonnieview%40sympatico.caDate>

bonnieview@...: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:34:50 -0400Subject: RE:

Higher Glutathione Levels and Whey [Life Extension Magazine]

OF COURSE DIET is important. It must be very low carb at all

times.Bonnie_____ From: <mailto:candidiasis%40>

candidiasis [mailto: <mailto:candidiasis%40>

candidiasis ] OnBehalf Of Bobby johnsonSent: July 23, 2008

11:35 AM <mailto:candidiasis%40Subject>

candidiasis@...: RE: Higher Glutathione

Levels and Whey [LifeExtension Magazine]question duncan will High

Glutathione Levels and Whey get rid of Candida? Ihave tried everything you

can think of and nothing has worked. I fear if Idont get rid of this soon I

will lose my job of 22 years with the govermentI feel that bad most of the

time. And does diet play a key role in gettingrid of Candida.To:

candidiasis@ <mailto:candidiasis%40From>From:

duncancrowshaw (DOT) <mailto:duncancrow%40shaw.caDate>caDate: Tue, 22 Jul 2008

18:27:20 +0000Subject: HigherGlutathione Levels and Whey [Life

Extension Magazine]>< <http://www.lef.> http://www.lef. <

<http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag97/nov-report97.html>

http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag97/nov-report97.html>org/magazine/mag97/nov-r

eport97.html>></begin Excerpt>... These researchfindings, combined with the

previous decade of study on whey protein, shouldconvince anyone that whey

protein concentrate is truly the life-extensionprotein.Higher Glutathione

Levels and Whey:A decade-and-a-half of findingson the benefits of whey

protein are far-reaching. Previous studies includethe following:Whey protein

concentrate dramatically raises glutathionelevels. Glutathione is an

essential water-soluble antioxidant in the bodythat protects cells and

serves as a primary detoxifier of harmful compoundssuch as peroxides, heavy

metals, carcinogens and other toxins. Glutathionealso is intimately tied to

immunity, and reduced glutathione levels havebeen associated with disease

such as AIDS, atherosclerosis, Alzheimer'sdisease and Parkinson's disease,

to name only a few. In fact, glutathionelevels appear to be one way of

modulating immunity.(nne K., Fidelus andMin Fu Tsan. Cellular

Immunology, 1986) Whey protein concentrate was foundto consistently raise

this extremely important immune stimulatingantioxidant beyond that of any

protein studied (including soy) to higherthan normal levels in multiple

animal studies. (Bounous G. and Gold P.,Clin. Invest. Med. 1991) A small

pilot study with HIV-positive men who werefed whey protein concentrate found

dramatic increases in glutathione levelsof all the study participants, with

two out of three men reaching theirideal body weight. (Bounous G., Baruchel

S., Faiutz J., Gold P., Clin.Invest. Med. 1992)In fact, there have been

several U.S. and internationalpatents granted for the treatment of AIDS and

improving immunity with wheyprotein concentrates.Whey protein improves

immune function and fightsinfections. Animals fed whey protein concentrate

consistently showeddramatic enhancement of both the humoral and cellular

immune response to avariety of immune challenges, such as salmonella,

streptococcus pneumonia(Bounous G., Konshavn P., Gold P., Clin. Invest. Med.

1988) and extremecancer-causing chemicals. This effect on immunity was not

seen with otherproteins. Whey protein concentrate fights cancer. Animals fed

whey protein></end excerpt>

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WOW that is a bummer i love sweet potatoes. So when should I start to feel

better like my oldself angain?

candidiasis@...: bonnieview@...: Thu, 24 Jul

2008 15:29:00 -0400Subject: RE: Higher Glutathione Levels and Whey

[Life Extension Magazine]

FOR LIFE. No more pasta, bread, potatoes, sweet potatoes, coffee or teawith

sugar, no more soft drinks,carrots and anything with a high sugarcontent.Just

stick to fish, meat and salad and some veggies.Bonniethanks so how long should

anyone with Candida be on this low carb diet?ThanksTo:

<mailto:candidiasis%40From>candidiasis@...:

<mailto:bonnieview%40sympatico.caDate>bonnieview@...: Wed, 23 Jul

2008 14:34:50 -0400Subject: RE: Higher Glutathione Levels and Whey

[Life Extension Magazine]OF COURSE DIET is important. It must be very low carb

at alltimes.Bonnie_____ From:

<mailto:candidiasis%40>candidiasis [mailto:

<mailto:candidiasis%40>candidiasis ] OnBehalf Of

Bobby johnsonSent: July 23, 200811:35 AMTo:

<mailto:candidiasis%40Subject>candidiasis@...:

RE: Higher GlutathioneLevels and Whey [LifeExtension

Magazine]question duncan will HighGlutathione Levels and Whey get rid of

Candida? Ihave tried everything youcan think of and nothing has worked. I fear

if Idont get rid of this soon Iwill lose my job of 22 years with the govermentI

feel that bad most of thetime. And does diet play a key role in gettingrid of

Candida.To:candidiasis@

<mailto:candidiasis%40From>From:duncancrowshaw (DOT)

<mailto:duncancrow%40shaw.caDate>caDate: Tue, 22 Jul 200818:27:20 +0000Subject:

HigherGlutathione Levels and Whey [LifeExtension Magazine]><

<http://www.lef.> http://www.lef.

<<http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag97/nov-report97.html>http://www.lef.org/magazin\

e/mag97/nov-report97.html>org/magazine/mag97/nov-report97.html>></begin

Excerpt>... These researchfindings, combined with theprevious decade of study on

whey protein, shouldconvince anyone that wheyprotein concentrate is truly the

life-extensionprotein.Higher GlutathioneLevels and Whey:A decade-and-a-half of

findingson the benefits of wheyprotein are far-reaching. Previous studies

includethe following:Whey proteinconcentrate dramatically raises

glutathionelevels. Glutathione is anessential water-soluble antioxidant in the

bodythat protects cells andserves as a primary detoxifier of harmful

compoundssuch as peroxides, heavymetals, carcinogens and other toxins.

Glutathionealso is intimately tied toimmunity, and reduced glutathione levels

havebeen associated with diseasesuch as AIDS, atherosclerosis,

Alzheimer'sdisease and Parkinson's disease,to name only a few. In fact,

glutathionelevels appear to be one way ofmodulating immunity.(nne K.,

Fidelus andMin Fu Tsan. CellularImmunology, 1986) Whey protein concentrate was

foundto consistently raisethis extremely important immune stimulatingantioxidant

beyond that of anyprotein studied (including soy) to higherthan normal levels in

multipleanimal studies. (Bounous G. and Gold P.,Clin. Invest. Med. 1991) A

smallpilot study with HIV-positive men who werefed whey protein concentrate

founddramatic increases in glutathione levelsof all the study participants,

withtwo out of three men reaching theirideal body weight. (Bounous G.,

BaruchelS., Faiutz J., Gold P., Clin.Invest. Med. 1992)In fact, there have

beenseveral U.S. and internationalpatents granted for the treatment of AIDS

andimproving immunity with wheyprotein concentrates.Whey protein improvesimmune

function and fightsinfections. Animals fed whey protein concentrateconsistently

showeddramatic enhancement of both the humoral and cellularimmune response to

avariety of immune challenges, such as salmonella,streptococcus

pneumonia(Bounous G., Konshavn P., Gold P., Clin. Invest. Med.1988) and

extremecancer-causing chemicals. This effect on immunity was notseen with

otherproteins. Whey protein concentrate fights cancer. Animals fedwhey

protein></end

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Just saw Nutritionist. He's suspecting CY. Doing some sort of protein test

that is $550! Ouch!

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From: candidiasis [mailto:candidiasis ] On

Behalf Of JB

Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 5:16 PM

candidiasis

Subject: Re: Higher Glutathione Levels and Whey [Life

Extension Magazine]

This is a really irresponsible post. SOME people may need to stay on

it for life, but certainly not all. Many people are able to eat

fruit, whole grains, even have alcohol after their yeast levels are

under control. You cannot paint everyone with the same brush. It is a

very individual thing--does he even know for sure that candida is the

problem?

>

> FOR LIFE. No more pasta, bread, potatoes, sweet potatoes, coffee

or tea

> with sugar, no more soft drinks,carrots and anything with a high

sugar

> content.

>

> Just stick to fish, meat and salad and some veggies.

>

> Bonnie

>

>

> thanks so how long should anyone with Candida be on this low carb

diet?

>

>

> Thanks

>

>

> <mailto:candidiasis%40From>

> candidiasis@...: <mailto:bonnieview%40sympatico.caDate>

> bonnieview@...: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:34:50 -0400Subject: RE:

> Higher Glutathione Levels and Whey [Life Extension

Magazine]

>

> OF COURSE DIET is important. It must be very low carb at all

> times.Bonnie_____ From: <mailto:candidiasis%40>

> candidiasis@ <mailto:candidiasis%40>

[mailto: <mailto:candidiasis%

40>

> candidiasis@ <mailto:candidiasis%40> ]

OnBehalf Of Bobby johnsonSent: July

23, 2008

> 11:35 AM<mailto:candidiasis%40Subject>

> candidiasis@...: RE: Higher Glutathione

> Levels and Whey [LifeExtension Magazine]question duncan will High

> Glutathione Levels and Whey get rid of Candida? Ihave tried

everything you

> can think of and nothing has worked. I fear if Idont get rid of

this soon I

> will lose my job of 22 years with the govermentI feel that bad most

of the

> time. And does diet play a key role in gettingrid of Candida.To:

> candidiasis@ <mailto:candidiasis%

40From>From:

> duncancrowshaw (DOT) <mailto:duncancrow%40shaw.caDate>caDate: Tue, 22

Jul 2008

> 18:27:20 +0000Subject: HigherGlutathione Levels and

Whey [Life

> Extension Magazine]>< <http://www.lef.> http://www.lef. <

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> eport97.html>></begin Excerpt>... These researchfindings, combined

with the

> previous decade of study on whey protein, shouldconvince anyone

that whey

> protein concentrate is truly the life-extensionprotein.Higher

Glutathione

> Levels and Whey:A decade-and-a-half of findingson the benefits of

whey

> protein are far-reaching. Previous studies includethe

following:Whey protein

> concentrate dramatically raises glutathionelevels. Glutathione is an

> essential water-soluble antioxidant in the bodythat protects cells

and

> serves as a primary detoxifier of harmful compoundssuch as

peroxides, heavy

> metals, carcinogens and other toxins. Glutathionealso is intimately

tied to

> immunity, and reduced glutathione levels havebeen associated with

disease

> such as AIDS, atherosclerosis, Alzheimer'sdisease and Parkinson's

disease,

> to name only a few. In fact, glutathionelevels appear to be one way

of

> modulating immunity.(nne K., Fidelus andMin Fu Tsan. Cellular

> Immunology, 1986) Whey protein concentrate was foundto consistently

raise

> this extremely important immune stimulatingantioxidant beyond that

of any

> protein studied (including soy) to higherthan normal levels in

multiple

> animal studies. (Bounous G. and Gold P.,Clin. Invest. Med. 1991) A

small

> pilot study with HIV-positive men who werefed whey protein

concentrate found

> dramatic increases in glutathione levelsof all the study

participants, with

> two out of three men reaching theirideal body weight. (Bounous G.,

Baruchel

> S., Faiutz J., Gold P., Clin.Invest. Med. 1992)In fact, there have

been

> several U.S. and internationalpatents granted for the treatment of

AIDS and

> improving immunity with wheyprotein concentrates.Whey protein

improves

> immune function and fightsinfections. Animals fed whey protein

concentrate

> consistently showeddramatic enhancement of both the humoral and

cellular

> immune response to avariety of immune challenges, such as

salmonella,

> streptococcus pneumonia(Bounous G., Konshavn P., Gold P., Clin.

Invest. Med.

> 1988) and extremecancer-causing chemicals. This effect on immunity

was not

> seen with otherproteins. Whey protein concentrate fights cancer.

Animals fed

> whey protein></end excerpt>

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I have to respectfully disagree. I think many people can successfully

add some of those foods back into their diet at some level. Many may not

be able to eat high sugar/high carb at every meal, day in day out again,

but I don't think we all need to stay on Atkins induction type

strictness forever.

Seems to me it depends on how susceptible the person is to candida

overgrowth, and whether any underlying causes that contribute to

susceptibility have been corrected.

sol

Bonnie Cole wrote:

> FOR LIFE. No more pasta, bread, potatoes, sweet potatoes, coffee or tea

> with sugar, no more soft drinks,carrots and anything with a high sugar

> content.

>

> Just stick to fish, meat and salad and some veggies.

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read you loud and clean thanks

candidiasis@...: debbypadilla@...: Thu, 24 Jul

2008 08:43:56 -0700Subject: Re: Higher Glutathione Levels and Whey

[Life Extension Magazine]

You know, basically it boils down to, " Your Food OR Your Life? " . Eating low carb

is not that bad when you consider all of the health benefits you get out of

making that choice. What are you waiting for?Luv,Debby in San , CA147 pounds

lost! 100% of health issues reversed!Currently studying for Nutrition

Certification and PhD in PsychologyGroup:

curingcandida/Website:

http://www.naturallythriving.com----- Original Message ----> From: Bobby johnson

> > wow thanks sol this does not sound good its been a two year nitemare and

hoping > to regain my life as I knew it.> > > Bobby johnson wrote:> thanks so

how long should anyone with Candida be on this > low carb diet?Some of us will

likely have to stay very low carb for life. It is > individual but some can do a

period on very low carb (such as Atkins induction) > and once the candida is

gone, with or without additional help such as > anti-fungals or caprylic acid,

etc, can then broaden their diet to include more > carbs, even grain carbs for

some people. But to go back to the SAD (standard > american diet) full of sugars

and grains will often result in a fast return of > candida problems for many who

have had a candida overgrowth problem.The reason > is that candida is a normal

human gut bacteria, and can't be totally eradicated, > nor would it stay

eradicated if it could be 100% eliminated. Therefore a diet > high in candida's

preferred foods can stimulate a resurgence of overgrowth, at > any time if such

a diet goes on long enough, depending on individual > susceptibility to

dysbiosis of candida.my two cents,sol

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feel like im living an nitemare that wont go away. I've tried just about

everything u can think of antifungal meds tons of supplements cut out sugar carb

intake reduces and NOTHING i still feel awful brain fog depression (prior to

candida never had any of this) Can someone PLEASE recomend somthing out there

that really works????

candidiasis@...: solbun@...: Thu, 24 Jul

2008 20:52:59 -0600Subject: Re: Higher Glutathione Levels and Whey

[Life Extension Magazine]

I have to respectfully disagree. I think many people can successfully add some

of those foods back into their diet at some level. Many may not be able to eat

high sugar/high carb at every meal, day in day out again, but I don't think we

all need to stay on Atkins induction type strictness forever.Seems to me it

depends on how susceptible the person is to candida overgrowth, and whether any

underlying causes that contribute to susceptibility have been

corrected.solBonnie Cole wrote:> FOR LIFE. No more pasta, bread, potatoes, sweet

potatoes, coffee or tea> with sugar, no more soft drinks,carrots and anything

with a high sugar> content.>> Just stick to fish, meat and salad and some

veggies.>>

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Bonnie, the active glutathione precursor in this product is n-

acetylcysteine (NAC).

NAC is accepted almost exclusively by the liver, which gets it first

because it is an oral product. This reduces its usefulness as a

systemic glutathione enhancer.

NAC is rapidly hydrolysed in the blood to cysteine, which is a toxin

because it is not bound to another amino acid, so at decent doses one

would get a slight toxic reaction, which is why doctors speak of

diminishing returns after saving the liver from liquefaction in the

event of an emergency.

Further, the halflife of NAC is about 4 hours, which is why the

hospital administers it every 4 hours.

I advise against this and similar products.

Duncan

>

> There are Glutathione precursors in this product (fairly new) call

MaxGXL

> and I imagine there are other products too, that do not contain milk

> products, which I cannot tolerate.

>

> Go and check it out

>

> http://www.maxgxl.com/

>

>

>

> Bonnie

[Guest guest]

My info from the research indicates there is no cellular glutathione

increase from glutathione given by IV except by sparing some of the

cellular glutathione from exiting some cells. This research is why

doctors can't use it IV in the hospital but use oral precursor, NAC,

for the liver.

Duncan

> > >

> > > If you can't have whey (I have severe reaction on a delayed

> > sensitivity

> > > test), then do you think the Glutathione compounded into a

nasal

> > spray

> > > and used in a nebulizer is effective?

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

There is no miracle cure. For whatever reasons; inherited health

status, poor eating habits, high living at some point, stress, toxic

exposure, even personality type, you have a compromised immune system

and it didn't happen over night.

The diet is the only way, IMO, to see any relief and you must stick to

it for a long time to see lasting results. Some people will get away

with cheating more but I believe you must be 100% compliant at least

for several months. It is my belief that this must be a complete

paradigm shift in lifestyle. I think that you may, once you're well,

be able to sample " bad foods " every so often but that you should

accept that these foods are not health enhancing and that you have a

weakness for them and that they should never become part of your

dietary regime again.

It is a nightmare, similar to drug and alcohol dependency. It's a

very hard notion to swallow that these foods are taboo to a certain

and growing number of people but that's the truth of it. The idea

that helps me is that the way people are eating is evolving and those

oh-so-wonderful carby things are not as appealing as they once were.

Chefs and restaurants are making wonderfully tasting salads and

dishes that are making an alternative eating style more popular and I

think we'll see a time when we aren't bombarded and surrounded by all

these things we crave. So it won't be as hard as it is now forever.

I keep telling myself " Eat to live - don't live to eat " .

Don't despair and don't give up. Just plug away, making gradual

changes. You will one day wake up and notice you don't feel as bad as

you did 6 months ago. I know in Ontario, Chronic fatigue/

Fibromyalgia is a diagnosis that insurance companies recognize and

therefore you can get disability for. Maybe this will help in your

circumstance regarding your worry over your job?

How compliant have you been in trying the diet?

On 25-Jul-08, at 9:20 AM, Bobby johnson wrote:

>

> feel like im living an nitemare that wont go away. I've tried just

> about everything u can think of antifungal meds tons of supplements

> cut out sugar carb intake reduces and NOTHING i still feel awful

> brain fog depression (prior to candida never had any of this) Can

> someone PLEASE recomend somthing out there that really works????

>

> candidiasis@...: solbun@...:

> Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:52:59 -0600Subject: Re: Higher

> Glutathione Levels and Whey [Life Extension Magazine]

>

> I have to respectfully disagree. I think many people can

> successfully add some of those foods back into their diet at some

> level. Many may not be able to eat high sugar/high carb at every

> meal, day in day out again, but I don't think we all need to stay on

> Atkins induction type strictness forever.Seems to me it depends on

> how susceptible the person is to candida overgrowth, and whether any

> underlying causes that contribute to susceptibility have been

> corrected.solBonnie Cole wrote:> FOR LIFE. No more pas ta, bread,

> potatoes, sweet potatoes, coffee or tea> with sugar, no more soft

> drinks,carrots and anything with a high sugar> content.>> Just stick

> to fish, meat and salad and some veggies.>>

>

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very sure its candida was giving 3 months of antibiotic prior to that i was in

great health. I tried my best to stick to a no sugar and low carbs but almost

impossible to avoid sugar and carbs totally. unfortnatley candida is not

reconize as an illness so my medcial dont cover any docters visits to treat it

and insruence company would not give me disabilty most people think im faking

dont know why? why would i run the rise of lsoing my job what would i gain??

thats for your advice

candidiasis@...: kenstar@...: Fri, 25 Jul 2008

10:16:20 -0400Subject: Re: Higher Glutathione Levels and Whey

[Life Extension Magazine]

There is no miracle cure. For whatever reasons; inherited health status, poor

eating habits, high living at some point, stress, toxic exposure, even

personality type, you have a compromised immune system and it didn't happen over

night.The diet is the only way, IMO, to see any relief and you must stick to it

for a long time to see lasting results. Some people will get away with cheating

more but I believe you must be 100% compliant at least for several months. It is

my belief that this must be a complete paradigm shift in lifestyle. I think that

you may, once you're well, be able to sample " bad foods " every so often but that

you should accept that these foods are not health enhancing and that you have a

weakness for them and that they should never become part of your dietary regime

again.It is a nightmare, similar to drug and alcohol dependency. It's a very

hard notion to swallow that these foods are taboo to a certain and growing

number of people but that's the truth of it. The idea that helps me is that the

way people are eating is evolving and those oh-so-wonderful carby things are not

as appealing as they once were. Chefs and restaurants are making wonderfully

tasting salads and dishes that are making an alternative eating style more

popular and I think we'll see a time when we aren't bombarded and surrounded by

all these things we crave. So it won't be as hard as it is now forever.I keep

telling myself " Eat to live - don't live to eat " .Don't despair and don't give

up. Just plug away, making gradual changes. You will one day wake up and notice

you don't feel as bad as you did 6 months ago. I know in Ontario, Chronic

fatigue/ Fibromyalgia is a diagnosis that insurance companies recognize and

therefore you can get disability for. Maybe this will help in your circumstance

regarding your worry over your job?How compliant have you been in trying the

diet?On 25-Jul-08, at 9:20 AM, Bobby johnson wrote:>> feel like im

living an nitemare that wont go away. I've tried just > about everything u can

think of antifungal meds tons of supplements > cut out sugar carb intake reduces

and NOTHING i still feel awful > brain fog depression (prior to candida never

had any of this) Can > someone PLEASE recomend somthing out there that really

works????>> candidiasis@...: solbun@...: >

Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:52:59 -0600Subject: Re: Higher > Glutathione

Levels and Whey [Life Extension Magazine]>> I have to respectfully disagree. I

think many people can > successfully add some of those foods back into their

diet at some > level. Many may not be able to eat high sugar/high carb at every

> meal, day in day out again, but I don't think we all need to stay on > Atkins

induction type strictness forever.Seems to me it depends on > how susceptible

the person is to candida overgrowth, and whether any > underlying causes that

contribute to susceptibility have been > corrected.solBonnie Cole wrote:> FOR

LIFE. No more pas ta, bread, > potatoes, sweet potatoes, coffee or tea> with

sugar, no more soft > drinks,carrots and anything with a high sugar> content.>>

Just stick > to fish, meat and salad and some veggies.>>>>

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In order to obtain medical clearance for your insurance, the diagnosis

must be Chronic Fatigue and/or Fibromyalgia which really describes

Candida but leaves that word out!

I'll pray that you find the strength and the answers to your health,

Bobby!

On 25-Jul-08, at 10:26 AM, Bobby johnson wrote:

>

> very sure its candida was giving 3 months of antibiotic prior to

> that i was in great health. I tried my best to stick to a no sugar

> and low carbs but almost impossible to avoid sugar and carbs

> totally. unfortnatley candida is not reconize as an illness so my

> medcial dont cover any docters visits to treat it and insruence

> company would not give me disabilty most people think im faking dont

> know why? why would i run the rise of lsoing my job what would i

> gain?? thats for your advice

>

> candidiasis@...: kenstar@...: Fri, 25

> Jul 2008 10:16:20 -0400Subject: Re: Higher Glutathione

> Levels and Whey [Life Extension Magazine]

>

> There is no miracle cure. For whatever reasons; inherited health

> status, poor eating habits, high living at some point, stress, toxic

> exposure, even personality type, you have a compromised immune

> system and it didn't happen over night.The diet is the only way,

> IMO, to see any relief and you must stick to it for a long time to

> see lasting results. Some people will get away with cheating more

> but I believe you must be 100% compliant at least for several

> months. It is my belief that this must be a complete pa radigm shift

> in lifestyle. I think that you may, once you're well, be able to

> sample " bad foods " every so often but that you should accept that

> these foods are not health enhancing and that you have a weakness

> for them and that they should never become part of your dietary

> regime again.It is a nightmare, similar to drug and alcohol

> dependency. It's a very hard notion to swallow that these foods are

> taboo to a certain and growing number of people but that's the truth

> of it. The idea that helps me i s that the way people are eating is

> evolving and those oh-so-wonderful carby things are not as appealing

> as they once were. Chefs and restaurants are making wonderfully

> tasting salads and dishes that are making an alternative eating

> style more popular and I think we'll see a time when we aren't

> bombarded and surrounded by all these things we crave. So it won't

> be as hard as it is now forever.I keep telling myself " Eat to live -

> don't live to eat " .Don't despair and don't give up. Just plug away,

> ma king gradual changes. You will one day wake up and notice you

> don't feel as bad as you did 6 months ago. I know in Ontario,

> Chronic fatigue/ Fibromyalgia is a diagnosis that insurance

> companies recognize and therefore you can get disability for. Maybe

> this will help in your circumstance regarding your worry over your

> job?How compliant have you been in trying the diet?On 25-

> Jul-08, at 9:20 AM, Bobby johnson wrote:>> feel like im living an

> nitemare that wont go away. I've tried just > about e verything u

> can think of antifungal meds tons of supplements > cut out sugar

> carb intake reduces and NOTHING i still feel awful > brain fog

> depression (prior to candida never had any of this) Can > someone

> PLEASE recomend somthing out there that really works????>> To:

candidiasis@...

> :solbun@...: > Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:52:59

> -0600Subject : Re: Higher > Glutathione Levels and

> Whey [Life Extension Magazine]>> I have to respectfully disagree. I

> think many people can > successfully add some of those foods back

> into their diet at some > level. Many may not be able to eat high

> sugar/high carb at every > meal, day in day out again, but I don't

> think we all need to stay on > Atkins induction type strictness

> forever.Seems to me it depends on > how susceptible the person is to

> candida overgrowth, and whether any > underlying causes that

> contribute to susceptibility have been > corrected.solBonnie Cole

> wrote:> FOR LIFE. No more pas ta, bread, > potatoes, sweet potatoes,

> coffee or tea> with sugar, no more soft > drinks,carrots and

> anything with a high sugar> content.>> Just stick > to fish, meat

> and salad and some veggies.>>>>

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thank for the tips i just the problem with that is maybe when i seek new

employment if that is on my health records that can hinder and future employment

candidiasis@...: kenstar@...: Fri, 25 Jul 2008

10:55:50 -0400Subject: Re: Higher Glutathione Levels and Whey

[Life Extension Magazine]

In order to obtain medical clearance for your insurance, the diagnosis must be

Chronic Fatigue and/or Fibromyalgia which really describes Candida but leaves

that word out!I'll pray that you find the strength and the answers to your

health, Bobby!On 25-Jul-08, at 10:26 AM, Bobby johnson wrote:>> very

sure its candida was giving 3 months of antibiotic prior to > that i was in

great health. I tried my best to stick to a no sugar > and low carbs but almost

impossible to avoid sugar and carbs > totally. unfortnatley candida is not

reconize as an illness so my > medcial dont cover any docters visits to treat it

and insruence > company would not give me disabilty most people think im faking

dont > know why? why would i run the rise of lsoing my job what would i > gain??

thats for your advice>> candidiasis@...:

kenstar@...: Fri, 25 > Jul 2008 10:16:20 -0400Subject: Re:

Higher Glutathione > Levels and Whey [Life Extension Magazine]>>

There is no miracle cure. For whatever reasons; inherited health > status, poor

eating habits, high living at some point, stress, toxic > exposure, even

personality type, you have a compromised immune > system and it didn't happen

over night.The diet is the only way, > IMO, to see any relief and you must stick

to it for a long time to > see lasting results. Some people will get away with

cheating more > but I believe you must be 100% compliant at least for several >

months. It is my belief that this must be a complete pa radigm shift > in

lifestyle. I think that you may, once you're well, be able to > sample " bad

foods " every so often but that you should accept that > these foods are not

health enhancing and that you have a weakness > for them and that they should

never become part of your dietary > regime again.It is a nightmare, similar to

drug and alcohol > dependency. It's a very hard notion to swallow that these

foods are > taboo to a certain and growing number of people but that's the truth

> of it. The idea that helps me i s that the way people are eating is > evolving

and those oh-so-wonderful carby things are not as appealing > as they once were.

Chefs and restaurants are making wonderfully > tasting salads and dishes that

are making an alternative eating > style more popular and I think we'll see a

time when we aren't > bombarded and surrounded by all these things we crave. So

it won't > be as hard as it is now forever.I keep telling myself " Eat to live -

> don't live to eat " .Don't despair and don't give up. Just plug away, > ma king

gradual changes. You will one day wake up and notice you > don't feel as bad as

you did 6 months ago. I know in Ontario, > Chronic fatigue/ Fibromyalgia is a

diagnosis that insurance > companies recognize and therefore you can get

disability for. Maybe > this will help in your circumstance regarding your worry

over your > job?How compliant have you been in trying the diet?On 25- >

Jul-08, at 9:20 AM, Bobby johnson wrote:>> feel like im living an > nitemare

that wont go away. I've tried just > about e verything u > can think of

antifungal meds tons of supplements > cut out sugar > carb intake reduces and

NOTHING i still feel awful > brain fog > depression (prior to candida never had

any of this) Can > someone > PLEASE recomend somthing out there that really

works????>> candidiasis@... > :solbun@...:

> Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:52:59 > -0600Subject : Re: Higher >

Glutathione Levels and > Whey [Life Extension Magazine]>> I have to respectfully

disagree. I > think many people can > successfully add some of those foods back

> into their diet at some > level. Many may not be able to eat high > sugar/high

carb at every > meal, day in day out again, but I don't > think we all need to

stay on > Atkins induction type strictness > forever.Seems to me it depends on >

how susceptible the person is to > candida overgrowth, and whether any >

underlying causes that > contribute to susceptibility have been >

corrected.solBonnie Cole > wrote:> FOR LIFE. No more pas ta, bread, > potatoes,

sweet potatoes, > coffee or tea> with sugar, no more soft > drinks,carrots and >

anything with a high sugar> content.>> Just stick > to fish, meat > and salad

and some veggies.>>>> >

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I am with Bobby. I ahve spending tons of money on antifungals and

probiotics and supplements and been on a strict diet for 2 years. I

still feel awful. What's the deal?

greg

> FOR LIFE. No more pas ta, bread,

> > potatoes, sweet potatoes, coffee or tea> with sugar, no more soft

> > drinks,carrots and anything with a high sugar> content.>> Just stick

> > to fish, meat and salad and some veggies.>>

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