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I remember feeling very angry and very irritable during my hyper periods with

Graves. Not a good thing when you have an infant. I was very relieved that it

was

something that went away--it was not a good feeling at all! One reason why I

finally said yes to RAI...after 10 years of this, off and on.

Amy

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> In a message dated 1/21/2000 11:54:11 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> carolann@... writes:

>

> << . It amazed me to find out that I

> was in one because I still feel like crap to put it mildly. If my levels do

> go back up (in a six week check-up) I will not get RAI and instead opt for

> another treatment. Thanks for all the great info. It really helps clear

> things up.

>

> Thanks

> Carolann

> >>

> I guess it takes time for cellular changes to occur.

> Time is the great healer.

> We can all pray that you stay in remission and start to feel good again soon.

>

> I'm still thinking about some of the comments about behaviors in that tape.

> I didn't type that part. It was brief.

>

> He talked about the irritability of hypers. Making inappropriate and

> impulsive comments

> Such as Barbara Bush saying Don't tell me I have to be Dan Quail's tennis

> partner again.

>

> Then he spoke of hypo being the opposite and tending to make childish puns

> not functioning well etc

>

> Thinking about this I tend to swing back and forth with these types of

> behaviors.

>

> All my life I have been reserved and controlled all the time.

> I was extremely shy and never would have even written email to a group like

> this.

>

> He spoke of people thinking it is age or something else that is changing them.

>

> I was thinking I just don't care any more about people's opinions.

>

> Now I'm worried that it's my thyroid. My tests are coming up normal but

> maybe I'm not out of the woods yet.

>

> I'll be watching my behavior and mental performance.

> Anger, irritability, sillyness, goofyness, stupidity and all.

> I better watch what I say. It's hard to do. I feel out of control sometimes.

>

> Ann

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Georgina

great article this one i can relate to gets moody or whatever you

call it lololol raiseing her voice at times which is unexceptable in the

house

sometimes this does get her in trouble with me

i do think its related to the arthritis i have also noticed with her she

dont want to just sit for long or stand for long when we go places like shes

antsy

Robbin

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Yes, irritability. That sure comes with this disease. can change her mood in a blink of an eye. For a while, I kind of let it pass, but now I just tell her to change back, switch the bad mood off and she does. She knows she gets that way so she knows she can change it. Of course, if she's really tired or in a lot of pain, its different, but on the most part, she seems to be able to control herself better. She also talks to the school counselor and she discusses how to handle her temper better. We have had a tremendous amount of help with this from school, therapy, relatives, friends. It has been awesome.

Pat & (1 year Systemic)

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Let me see...Tabitha and irritability...oh yes that is her twin..Tabitha can

be so moody..lol..i usually blame it on her female thing-haha..i know Tab is

in pain and i know at 16 it is hard thing to deal with what she does but oh

man..does my irritability and her irritability clash..we have a

battle..lol..then go on..But all in all..she is a good kid! Oh yeah bless

the woman in the article who has the eight children to get ready for

school..i would definitely need prozac on having that to deal with..lol!

take care all

karen(tab16..poly)

From: " Georgina " <gmckin@...>

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" a JRA List " < >

Subject: Irritability

Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 12:59:45 -1000

I found this thread at WebMDs Roundtable Discussion, discussing irritability

related to arthritis. That's something that most of us have probably had

some experience with, even if sometimes it's hard to determine if the

moodiness and irritablity is due to physical pain from arthritis or

something else all together. The youngest kids get irritable and sometimes

have a hard time verbalizing. The older kids have a host of other issues to

deal with and it can be hard for them to understand and communicate what's

bothering sometimes, too. While this isn't specifically about JRA I still

thought it was interesting enough to include over here, too. The forum can

be found at: http://boards.webmd.com/roundtable_message/1940128

Hi, I have Reactive Arthritis and I have a problem. In the morning, I am in

so much pain, I get very irritable. I start small arguments with my husband

over nothing. Overall, my husband is very understanding about my illness and

very supportive but I usually get upset at him because I am in pain. Do any

of you have this problem? I take meds to control my pain and inflammation

and just started methotrexate which hasn't really kicked in yet. How do I

control my temper? How do you guys handle that emotional irritation in the

morning? Lot of times, I try to avoid talking to him so I won't start

getting upset at him for no reason... Please help!

Responses:

Hi! Chronic pain has a way of messing with our moods and attitudes. I have a

pretty rough go of things in the morning with the OA in my knees. I

frequently have had a sleepless/ restless night because of my discomfort. My

husband leaves for work at 5AM and i have the pleasure of getting my 8 kids

ready for school before their bus comes and I leave for work at 7:30. I

don't have time for my mood to get in my way, so first of all--my husband

lets me sleep if i happen to be asleep, until he leaves for work. I take my

meds and hop into the warmest bath that I can handle, before it is time to

get the kids up. Relaxing, in the warmth--without being hounded by my kids,

gives me the peace of mind that I need to take on their needs. I still have

pain, but I also have the patience and the time to attend to everything that

I need to. (Then I go to work, for a much needed rest--LOL) Keep your chin

up!

My husband has RA and he loses his temper sometimes, after he does he really

feels bad. After 37 yrs of marriage I know that it is out of character for

him so I just let it go. When he was frist diagnoised it was really bad, I

treated it like a greif process and anticipated depression, anger and other

emotions, but I did discuss (after a cooling time) that he needed to be

aware of what he was doing. He was aware and we both agreed that we didn't

want him to surpress it and as time has gone on he is becoming adjusted to

his diagnoises. You seem to be on top of your emotions so just let time do

the rest. You will began to cope and this will help you. One other thing, I

have been talking about my husband but I also can speak from experience, I

had a stroke at age three so I've faced some challenges and understand.

*** Thank you guys... I going to tell myself that 'things will be better',

each morning. Remind myself to control my temper and let things go. I

realize exercise helps me a lot to release my stress and anger and I am

going to keep on trying. Thanks again!

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Hi ,

I know!!! Imagine that, having so many kids to get ready in the mornings and then having to prepare for work outside of the home yourself. On top of having RA ! Has that woman ever been voted Mother of the Year? I'd seriously consider a nomination : )

Take Care,

Georgina

Let me see...Tabitha and irritability...oh yes that is her twin..Tabitha can be so moody..lol..i usually blame it on her female thing-haha..i know Tab is in pain and i know at 16 it is hard thing to deal with what she does but oh man..does my irritability and her irritability clash..we have a battle..lol..then go on..But all in all..she is a good kid! Oh yeah bless the woman in the article who has the eight children to get ready for school..i would definitely need prozac on having that to deal with..lol!take care allkaren(tab16..poly)

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Hi,

In the early stages we even went to a child psychologist to help us adapt better to the sudden changes brought about by JRA, the shifts in family dynamics that might occur. The older child all of a sudden needed more time and attention than the younger one and I was concerned about how we could best handle everything that was happening. It definitely helped to be able to talk to someone, to get their opinion and suggestions for keeping us all on track and aware. Sort of like the kinds of support we can get from the people in this group. I do think it was helpful. He also saw Josh one on one to help with his fear of needles and to help him deal better with pain and his emotions regarding getting/having JRA.

Take Care,

Georgina

Yes, irritability. That sure comes with this disease. can change her mood in a blink of an eye. For a while, I kind of let it pass, but now I just tell her to change back, switch the bad mood off and she does. She knows she gets that way so she knows she can change it. Of course, if she's really tired or in a lot of pain, its different, but on the most part, she seems to be able to control herself better. She also talks to the school counselor and she discusses how to handle her temper better. We have had a tremendous amount of help with this from school, therapy, relatives, friends. It has been awesome. Pat & (1 year Systemic)

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I understand that - my irritability seems to be increasing with Rob's (Ha! - not

Mom) It is real hard to tell what is coming from the pain, the prednisone or

just being 4 (or older- in my case :) ) - but I have found that walking away

from him gives me a minute to keep my reaction in check & sometimes it gives him

time to realize he is out of control. Sometimes he will come to me and

apologize - other times he just rants. The mornings have been really trying

lately - but seem to be worse around the time we lower his Pred dose another 1.5

mg (every two weeks) - by the second week of the new dose he seems calmer - then

next week starts again. I cannot imagine attempting to get 8 children ready for

school - getting Rob and me out the door in the morning is about all I can take!

The hot bath idea is great - but that is usually an option for me on Friday or

Saturday at midnight. I keep waiting for the day that Rob starts sleeping

better. Whew - I am rambling again.

Val

Rob's Mom (4,systemic)

In a message dated Thu, 10 Jan 2002 1:43:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, " karens

tribe " <nutsomom5@...> writes:

> Let me see...Tabitha and irritability...oh yes that is her twin..Tabitha can

> be so moody..lol..i usually blame it on her female thing-haha..i know Tab is

> in pain and i know at 16 it is hard thing to deal with what she does but oh

> man..does my irritability and her irritability clash..we have a

> battle..lol..then go on..But all in all..she is a good kid! Oh yeah bless

> the woman in the article who has the eight children to get ready for

> school..i would definitely need prozac on having that to deal with..lol!

>

> take care all

> karen(tab16..poly)

>

>

> From: " Georgina " <gmckin@...>

> Reply-

> " a JRA List " < >

> Subject: Irritability

> Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 12:59:45 -1000

>

> I found this thread at WebMDs Roundtable Discussion, discussing irritability

> related to arthritis. That's something that most of us have probably had

> some experience with, even if sometimes it's hard to determine if the

> moodiness and irritablity is due to physical pain from arthritis or

> something else all together. The youngest kids get irritable and sometimes

> have a hard time verbalizing. The older kids have a host of other issues to

> deal with and it can be hard for them to understand and communicate what's

> bothering sometimes, too. While this isn't specifically about JRA I still

> thought it was interesting enough to include over here, too. The forum can

> be found at: http://boards.webmd.com/roundtable_message/1940128

>

> Hi, I have Reactive Arthritis and I have a problem. In the morning, I am in

> so much pain, I get very irritable. I start small arguments with my husband

> over nothing. Overall, my husband is very understanding about my illness and

> very supportive but I usually get upset at him because I am in pain. Do any

> of you have this problem? I take meds to control my pain and inflammation

> and just started methotrexate which hasn't really kicked in yet. How do I

> control my temper? How do you guys handle that emotional irritation in the

> morning? Lot of times, I try to avoid talking to him so I won't start

> getting upset at him for no reason... Please help!

>

> Responses:

>

> Hi! Chronic pain has a way of messing with our moods and attitudes. I have a

> pretty rough go of things in the morning with the OA in my knees. I

> frequently have had a sleepless/ restless night because of my discomfort. My

> husband leaves for work at 5AM and i have the pleasure of getting my 8 kids

> ready for school before their bus comes and I leave for work at 7:30. I

> don't have time for my mood to get in my way, so first of all--my husband

> lets me sleep if i happen to be asleep, until he leaves for work. I take my

> meds and hop into the warmest bath that I can handle, before it is time to

> get the kids up. Relaxing, in the warmth--without being hounded by my kids,

> gives me the peace of mind that I need to take on their needs. I still have

> pain, but I also have the patience and the time to attend to everything that

> I need to. (Then I go to work, for a much needed rest--LOL) Keep your chin

> up!

>

> My husband has RA and he loses his temper sometimes, after he does he really

> feels bad. After 37 yrs of marriage I know that it is out of character for

> him so I just let it go. When he was frist diagnoised it was really bad, I

> treated it like a greif process and anticipated depression, anger and other

> emotions, but I did discuss (after a cooling time) that he needed to be

> aware of what he was doing. He was aware and we both agreed that we didn't

> want him to surpress it and as time has gone on he is becoming adjusted to

> his diagnoises. You seem to be on top of your emotions so just let time do

> the rest. You will began to cope and this will help you. One other thing, I

> have been talking about my husband but I also can speak from experience, I

> had a stroke at age three so I've faced some challenges and understand.

>

>

>

> *** Thank you guys... I going to tell myself that 'things will be better',

> each morning. Remind myself to control my temper and let things go. I

> realize exercise helps me a lot to release my stress and anger and I am

> going to keep on trying. Thanks again!

>

>

>

>

>

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Val

melissa gets in the hot bath it also relaxes her most times

the sleeping and resting try tylenol pm ask the doctor about that

melissas doctor told me to try that since she is 14 i tried 1 on her and it

didnt do anything so i tried 2 and she was sound asleep in 20 minutes

stick to your guns theres a time when the Irritability can get bad

thats when you say time out

Robbin

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Klonopin. Kava-kava is worthless. A small dose of klonopin

occasionally won't hurt you.

Mike C.

> Hi All,

> lately, I have been experiencing much irritability and

would

> like

> to know what people have done for it. I am very sensitive to

medications

>

> so I would rather try some natural non-toxic substance.

>

>

> Thanks

>

> Mike

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Hi Mike C. and All,

Mike, I am especially sensitive to

medications effecting the

nervous system even in small doses and klonopin, which is a strong

medication

is not one that I really could consider at this time. Thanks for the

suggestion

Mike

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Hmmm, in that case, you may want to see an anger management

specialist. Seriously, I know what you mean about the irritability.

I have very few friends left and am irritable with them and my

family as well. I would be interested in other opinions as even

klonopin is not a good long term solution. You may not be able to

find a supplement that helps, we may have to learn to deal w/ it.

Mike C.

> Hi Mike C. and All,

> Mike, I am especially sensitive to

> medications effecting the

> nervous system even in small doses and klonopin, which is a strong

> medication

> is not one that I really could consider at this time. Thanks for the

> suggestion

>

>

> Mike

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Mike,

When I complained to my psychiatrist about irritability, he suggested I take

about 1800 mg Omega 3. It has worked just fine for me.

Beck

Mike wrote:

> Hi All,

> lately, I have been experiencing much irritability and would

> like

> to know what people have done for it. I am very sensitive to medications

>

> so I would rather try some natural non-toxic substance.

>

> Thanks

>

> Mike

>

>

> This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each

other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment

discussed here, please consult your doctor.

>

>

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Mike,

Omega 3 is fish oil. Ask at store for " burpless " kind.

Beck

yakcamp22 wrote:

> Hi Beck, is Omega 3 an essential fatty acid? I have had trouble

> w/ flax seed oil/EPO but I could use some help w/ the irritability.

>

> Mike C. (TIA)

>

>

> > Mike,

> >

> > When I complained to my psychiatrist about irritability, he

> suggested I take about 1800 mg Omega 3. It has worked just fine for

> me.

> >

> > Beck

>

>

> This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each

other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment

discussed here, please consult your doctor.

>

>

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Hi Beck, is Omega 3 an essential fatty acid? I have had trouble

w/ flax seed oil/EPO but I could use some help w/ the irritability.

Mike C. (TIA)

> Mike,

>

> When I complained to my psychiatrist about irritability, he

suggested I take about 1800 mg Omega 3. It has worked just fine for

me.

>

> Beck

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Dear Mike,

Just to share what I find makes me irritable: I find that cfs makes me more

sensitive to light and noise, especially when in a flare. The magnification

of the stimuli is very aggitating. Wonder if that is what triggers your

irritability. I must be in a quiet place, light low, with very few people,

alone is the best, though socially it is isolating., and as little sound as

possible.

Arlene

>

> Message: 1

> Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 16:58:35 -0000

> From: " yakcamp22 " <yakcamp22@...>

> Subject: Re: Irritability

>

> Klonopin. Kava-kava is worthless. A small dose of klonopin

> occasionally won't hurt you.

>

> Mike C.

>

>

>

> > Hi All,

> > lately, I have been experiencing much irritability and

> would

> > like

> > to know what people have done for it. I am very sensitive to

> medications

> >

> > so I would rather try some natural non-toxic substance.

> >

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> > Mike

>

>

>

> >

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  • 6 years later...

Hi.

I started taking GSE, 125mg once a day (equivalent to about 10-12 drops of

liquid) 5 days ago. Prior to that I was taking probiotics and Yeast Defense

by Nutrition Now (not very potent). I'm starting to become irritable like I

was before I went on Yeast Defense.

Is this a temporary phase that will pass?

Thanks,

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