Panic Attacks

[Guest guest]

This brings up a question of mine... how many of you that suffered

panic/anxiety disorder found that those particular symptoms went away

after explant? I have it so bad that there was a couple years when I

was nearly agoraphobic.

--- In , " anita kessler " <AnitaK001@m...>

wrote:

> I can only say that my son and I have both had panic attacks and

they can be horrendous as far as the scare factor goes. I myself

ended up in the hospital three times thinking I was having a heart

attack. I felt like I couldn't breathe. I can only guess that the

toxicity in our bodies throws off brain chemicals, hormones etc. as

the cause. I haven't had a panic attack since I have been detoxing or

the dizziness that accompanies it Of course getting your heart

checked would be a good first idea. If your heart checks out ok then

I think detoxing would be the next step. Love, Anita

[Guest guest]

I had panic attacks terrible with implants! Never had one before

implants, but with them it was so bad at times I couldn't even sit &

watch tv. It was one of the 1st symptoms to go away after explant.

JEn

> > I can only say that my son and I have both had panic attacks and

> they can be horrendous as far as the scare factor goes. I myself

> ended up in the hospital three times thinking I was having a heart

> attack. I felt like I couldn't breathe. I can only guess that

the

> toxicity in our bodies throws off brain chemicals, hormones etc.

as

> the cause. I haven't had a panic attack since I have been

detoxing or

> the dizziness that accompanies it Of course getting your heart

> checked would be a good first idea. If your heart checks out ok

then

> I think detoxing would be the next step. Love, Anita

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I would have to disagree on the " diagnosis " of " panic attack " .

Most likey as the body is ridding itself via detox the circulating toxins

are affecting the CNS and causing the " problem " .

One would suspect that trying to mitigate the " panic attacks " would in fact

create a problem as it's not " mental " and a anti-anziety med will be more

problematic than effective.

More " assistance " with detox would help, bottled water, organic foods,

removal of possible more toxic exposures and if they can tolerate it...hot baths

with skin brushing and sweating.

[Guest guest]

>

> Did I read in one of the posts that as someone was detoxing they were

> having extreme difficulty with anxiety? I need to let a friend know who

> is also detoxing as to whether the panic attacks are related to detox.

>

> Thanks

>

I don;t think they are related to detoxing exactly. More like they are

related to the toxic condition. But it's possible as your friend is

detoxing that she is still ill and/or being exposed to different

triggers and that would cause panic attacks.

>Surella

[Guest guest]

According to my doc, there can be psychiatric symptoms associated with

biotoxin illnesses, such as mold. On Dr. Shoemaker's web site is a

presentation he gave to the Virginia psychiatric outpatient group,

which talks about some of these symptoms. They include panic attacks,

anxiety, depression etc. Go to the link and scroll to the bottom of

the page. The Virginia presentation is the last one listed.

http://www.biotoxin.info/presentations

Frosty

[Guest guest]

i have been having panic attacks. also bouts of depression. at least now i

know why. it started about a month before i knew about the mold. its mold

related. i swear. it has to be. i think its because we feel so sick we have

no control over why. I also have a seizure disorder and have had to had my

dosage increased on one of my meds due to increased seizure activity. all of

this happeded right before i found out about the mold. now the panic and

depression is a bit easier to handle because i know the cause. the seizures are

under control thanks to medication. but the allergra - D really puts me on

edge. so i have to take something to help me sleep. this is still unreal to

me.

nne

[] Panic attacks

Did I read in one of the posts that as someone was detoxing they were

having extreme difficulty with anxiety? I need to let a friend know who

is also detoxing as to whether the panic attacks are related to detox.

Thanks

[Guest guest]

I don't know but I'd love to find something for the panic attacks. Mine are

awful at times like right now. It has been raining all day and now very heavy

along with wind. Even though we haven't had any leaks I get extremely anxious

about the roof and any place else it could possibly enter. Many days I don't

even like to leave the house because I worry so much. We were even planning

to go away for just 2 nights for our anninversary but the closer it gets the

more anxious I become. I was never like this before I got so sick. I was a

traveler and always ready to go.

Has anyone had any success with the GABA I'd be happy to hear about it.

Sue

Dear List,

Does anyone have any idea if GABA can affect thyroid levels one way or

another? I was doing some research and came across only this one obscure link.

Any

feedback would be very welcomed.

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(http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN & cpsidt=17880534.)

Thanks very much,

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[Guest guest]

Dear List,

Does anyone have any idea if GABA can affect thyroid levels one way or

another? I was doing some research and came across only this one obscure link.

Any feedback would be very welcomed.

http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN & cpsidt=17880534.

Thanks very much,

Sam

Alice Frost <alicefrost1947@...> wrote:

EI doctor took me off the xanax and put me on GABA which in my case helped. I

was going thru some detox (very mild) at this time. The best thing was total

avoidance of toxic chemicals of course.

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[Guest guest]

GABA has been helpful for anxiety. It can't hurt to give it a try. My

doctor recommended taking it twice a day for 6 days a week--skip one

day of each week. Another idea which might help somewhat--we turn off

the water every time we travel. I feel much better about leaving when

I know a pipe can't leak while I'm away.

>

>

> I don't know but I'd love to find something for the panic attacks.

Mine are

> awful at times like right now. It has been raining all day and now

very heavy

> along with wind. Even though we haven't had any leaks I get

extremely anxious

> about the roof and any place else it could possibly enter. Many

days I don't

> even like to leave the house because I worry so much. We were even

planning

> to go away for just 2 nights for our anninversary but the closer it

gets the

> more anxious I become. I was never like this before I got so sick.

I was a

> traveler and always ready to go.

> Has anyone had any success with the GABA I'd be happy to hear about it.

>

> Sue

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Sue,

My daughter and I were helped by large doses of B-1 (thiamin) along with

sufficient magnesium. I have a friend who was helped by B-12 but not B-1.

Everyone is different. GABA did nothing for any of us, but it has helped

others.

If you try B-1, be sure to take a good B-complex as well as magnesium

because they all work together. There's a book entitled " The Way Up From Down "

which has a good table in the back which shows the deficiency symptoms of many

vitamins and minerals. It also discusses amino acid therapy. I hope you

find some help.

Jean

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[Guest guest]

Thanks for the GABA info. Problem here is that my 87 yr. old mother will be

here. I have begged my bother to come check the pipes, water heater, etc. but

he only thinks I'm crazy and need to see a Dr. What do you do about your

water heater? Water heaters are my worst nightmare even thought we had a

plumber

put a deep pan around it with a pipe that leads to the sump pump I still

worry about it. Never was like this before and is a terrible way to live. I

always loved to travel but now I get anxious just thinking about it. Doesn't

make

my husband very happy.

Sue

GABA has been helpful for anxiety. It can't hurt to give it a try. My

doctor recommended taking it twice a day for 6 days a week--skip one

day of each week. Another idea which might help somewhat--we turn off

the water every time we travel. I feel much better about leaving when

I know a pipe can't leak while I'm away.

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[Guest guest]

Thanks for the info & I'll look for the book. I do take B-12. I have

a healthy options store near me that does vitamin/mineral screening. Thought

that might be helpful. I'm also thinking of talking to my local dr. about an

antidepressant. Anyone here taking one that has been helpful? I know there

are so many and don't know which would be better than another.

Sue

Hi Sue,

My daughter and I were helped by large doses of B-1 (thiamin) along with

sufficient magnesium. I have a friend who was helped by B-12 but not B-1.

Everyone is different. GABA did nothing for any of us, but it has helped

others.

If you try B-1, be sure to take a good B-complex as well as magnesium

because they all work together. There's a book entitled " The Way Up From

Down "

which has a good table in the back which shows the deficiency symptoms of

many

vitamins and minerals. It also discusses amino acid therapy. I hope you

find some help.

Jean

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[Guest guest]

Sue,

I saw on TV the other day where they installed a shut off (if you

have city water, didn't say if you have well) that if there is a

leak that it will stop the water from continuing to flow into the

tank. It also had a sensor that went into the pan that signeled the

component to shut off the water flow into the tank. Not sure where

to find one, but you can call an electrial/plumbing company or one

of the home improvement stores to see if they carry anything like

that.

Hope this helps,

Sharon C.

>

>

> Thanks for the GABA info. Problem here is that my 87 yr. old

mother will be

> here. I have begged my bother to come check the pipes, water

heater, etc. but

> he only thinks I'm crazy and need to see a Dr. What do you do

about your

> water heater? Water heaters are my worst nightmare even thought

we had a plumber

> put a deep pan around it with a pipe that leads to the sump pump

I still

> worry about it. Never was like this before and is a terrible way

to live. I

> always loved to travel but now I get anxious just thinking about

it. Doesn't make

> my husband very happy.

>

> Sue

>

> GABA has been helpful for anxiety. It can't hurt to give it a

try. My

> doctor recommended taking it twice a day for 6 days a week--skip

one

> day of each week. Another idea which might help somewhat--we turn

off

> the water every time we travel. I feel much better about leaving

when

> I know a pipe can't leak while I'm away.

>

>

>

>

>

>

> **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S.

used car

> listings at AOL Autos.

> (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851)

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Sharon. We do have city water and I'll have to check out the shut

off you are talking about. Seems to me I recall reading something about that

feature. I asked my plumber about a yr. ago but he didn't seem to know anything

about it. I'll have to dig further.

Thanks, again, for the info. I'd love a house made of plastic, sitting high

on stilts, no basement, my washer in the garage, etc. No worries of any

kind. Wouldn't that be wonderful?!

I saw on TV the other day where they installed a shut off (if you

have city water, didn't say if you have well) that if there is a

leak that it will stop the water from continuing to flow into the

tank. It also had a sensor that went into the pan that signeled the

component to shut off the water flow into the tank. Not sure where

to find one, but you can call an electrial/plumbing company or one

of the home improvement stores to see if they carry anything like

that.

Hope this helps,

Sharon C.

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[Guest guest]

Fascinating link! Please let me know what you find out. One of my doctors

thought I was hyperthyroid but I also have some symptoms of hypothyroid.

However, I cannot tolerate any of the meds they give.

Sam <yaddayadda53@...> wrote: Dear List,

Does anyone have any idea if GABA can affect thyroid levels one way or another?

I was doing some research and came across only this one obscure link. Any

feedback would be very welcomed.

http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN & cpsidt=17880534.

Thanks very much,

Sam

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 04/30/2008 12:30:38 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

surellabaer@... writes:

Thanks, I bought the GABA yesterday. I already take a B-12 and magnesium

with my Calcium Gluconate. Don't have the B-1 but will get it asap. If I take

the B-1 should I take the B Complex in place of the B-12 or take both?

Sue

>

> Hi Sue,

> My daughter and I were helped by large doses of B-1 (thiamin) along

with

> sufficient magnesium. I have a friend who was helped by B-12 but

not B-1.

> Everyone is different. GABA did nothing for any of us, but it has

helped others.

> If you try B-1, be sure to take a good B-complex as well as magnesium

> because they all work together. There's a book entitled " The Way

Up From Down "

> which has a good table in the back which shows the deficiency

symptoms of many

> vitamins and minerals. It also discusses amino acid therapy. I

hope you

> find some help.

> Jean

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[Guest guest]

Hi Alice,

Have hit a wall with the gaba/thyroid link at the moment. Is that what you are

asking about? As per your thyroid issue, I wouldn't speculate on that.

Regardless of the form of treatment, the first thing to do would be to get a

blood test to more specifcally determine thyroid function. You need to check tsh

levels and the t3 and t4 and work with someone who understands the tests itself.

Some docs only deal with tsh and that is an incomplete picture. Also, adrenal

issues can also exascerbate thyroid. You might also want to be checked for that

as well. The mix of hyper and hypo symptoms could mean earyl stage hashitmotos.

That is an auto-immune thyroid problem that is quite different than

hypothyroidism. I can't be too adamant about this as to leave this unchecked

could cause other issues as well. I speak from experience there. Be well, Sam

Alice Frost <alicefrost1947@...> wrote:

One of my doctors thought I was hyperthyroid but I also have some symptoms of

hypothyroid. However, I cannot tolerate any of the meds they give.

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>

> Hi Sue,

> My daughter and I were helped by large doses of B-1 (thiamin) along

with

> sufficient magnesium. I have a friend who was helped by B-12 but

not B-1.

> Everyone is different. GABA did nothing for any of us, but it has

helped others.

> If you try B-1, be sure to take a good B-complex as well as magnesium

> because they all work together. There's a book entitled " The Way

Up From Down "

> which has a good table in the back which shows the deficiency

symptoms of many

> vitamins and minerals. It also discusses amino acid therapy. I

hope you

> find some help.

> Jean

>

I take two ayurvedic medicines for panic attacks-ashwaghanda and

bacopa-both bought online at iherb.com. I've been taking them for 4

months now but I felt much much better by the first month. Ayurvedic

works for me and not for everybody but I'd certainly give it a try.

Surella

>

>

>

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> listings at AOL Autos.

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>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Sue,

I don't know what to tell you there. If the B-12 seems to have helped, you

could take both. But if there is sufficient B-12 in the complex, you might

try just the complex. You could always add it back if necessary. Vitamins

are such an individual thing. When my daughter and I started having problems,

we did not know about the mold that was in our home. I just went to that

book, looked through the charts and took a chance on the B-1 and it worked for

us. How does the calcium gluconate work for you and how much do you take of

it and magnesium? I used to take Natrol's My Favorite Multiple but they just

recently changed the formula and it contains wheat now, so I have to figure

something else out. Most multiples do not have enough calcium.

Jean

In a message dated 5/1/2008 6:26:47 A.M. Central Daylight Time,

writes:

In a message dated 04/30/2008 12:30:38 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

_surellabaer@surellaba_ (mailto:surellabaer@...) writes:

Thanks, I bought the GABA yesterday. I already take a B-12 and magnesium

with my Calcium Gluconate. Don't have the B-1 but will get it asap. If I

take

the B-1 should I take the B Complex in place of the B-12 or take both?

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[Guest guest]

I'll stick with the B-complex I think along with the B-1. The caldium

gluconate has magnesium in it. I don't know how much but Dr. S recommended it to

me. I've heard that you need the magnesium to absorb the calcium. I also take a

multi vitamin daily and a probiotic which has really helped with intestines.

Sue

Hi Sue,

I don't know what to tell you there. If the B-12 seems to have helped, you

could take both. But if there is sufficient B-12 in the complex, you might

try just the complex. You could always add it back if necessary. Vitamins

are such an individual thing. When my daughter and I started having

problems,

we did not know about the mold that was in our home. I just went to that

book, looked through the charts and took a chance on the B-1 and it worked

for

us. How does the calcium gluconate work for you and how much do you take of

it and magnesium? I used to take Natrol's My Favorite Multiple but they just

recently changed the formula and it contains wheat now, so I have to figure

something else out. Most multiples do not have enough calcium.

Jean

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