Guest guest Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 a long time ago I tried the Atkins diet. It didn't do anything - I did it religiously for 3 straight months and only lost 8 lbs in the first month - nothing after that - that is discouraging. My rheumatologist put me on his version of low carb - fruit, veggies and only one cup of another carb at dinner only per day. I lost 20 kbs then. I know this is a different scenario and I am willing to try it for one week. So what can I eat for just one week? Thanks. marykitcurtin <kitcurtin@...> wrote: , You can....I know you have FMS....have you tried not eating any carbsfor one week? That takes mind control...for self-control. ;-) It's just one week..... Kit > "The variety of drugs responsible for vertigo consists in relatively> harmless substances like aspirin up to substances used in vertigo drug> therapy!"> > > > Suzi > > What is a weed? A plant whose virtues have not yet been discovered. > > www.onegrp.com/?mamanott organic cosmetics> http://suziesgoats.wholefoodfarmacy.com/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------> Start your day with - make it your home page > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2005 Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 Here's my menu for the last 4 days! breakfast: watermelon lunch: watermelon dinner: watermelon No kidding! I'm so hooked on watermelon right now it's just amazing to me. Everyday I go to the store and buy three more. The girls are really giggling about it now. Prior to that I was eating about 10 pounds of blueberries everyday. I just can't get enough of the fresh fruit this time of year. Interspersed with the melon I usually have 1 or 2 heads of lettuce from my garden. Shari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2005 Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 Then the person that told me to go no carbs actually did not mean to cut fruit and veggies out? marySV <shavig@...> wrote: Here's my menu for the last 4 days! breakfast: watermelon lunch: watermelon dinner: watermelon No kidding! I'm so hooked on watermelon right now it's just amazing to me. Everyday I go to the store and buy three more. The girls are really giggling about it now. Prior to that I was eating about 10 pounds of blueberries everyday. I just can't get enough of the fresh fruit this time of year. Interspersed with the melon I usually have 1 or 2 heads of lettuce from my garden. Shari For the Lord God helps Me; therefore have I not been ashamed or confounded. Therefore have I set My face like a flint, and I know that I shall not be put to shame. Isa 50:7__________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2005 Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 I eat a little meat, I don't like most of it. I eat a lot of fruit, some veggies, yogurt, cheese, eggs. Don't smoke or drink. In the process of cutting the coffee. I'm down to half/half about 2-3 cups a day. I'm woking my way down to no caffeine. (the half/half is half reg and half decaf) I did coffee while on Atkins. Some meds. marykitcurtin <kitcurtin@...> wrote: Hi , Do you eat meat...or rather what kind of protein do you eat? Do you smoke? Drink coffee? ..alcohol? Any meds? Did you do any of these while you were on Atkins? Kit > > "The variety of drugs responsible for vertigo consists in relatively> > harmless substances like aspirin up to substances used in vertigo drug> > therapy!"> > > > > > > > Suzi > > > > What is a weed? A plant whose virtues have not yet been discovered. > > > > www.onegrp.com/?mamanott organic cosmetics> > http://suziesgoats.wholefoodfarmacy.com/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------> > Start your day with - make it your home page > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2005 Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 Blueberries are excellent brain food....that's why you're so smart!!! :-) Kit > God Bless ya Shar! I can maybe handle watermelon once every ten years but blueberries I absolutely detest though in the past if one would have offered me a slice of blueberry pie I would not have refused. > I honestly do not think I have had watermelon in ten years or more. Then again I am just way too picky and fussy when it comes to food especially fruit. > The lettuce I like though > > Have a wonderful night > Tone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2005 Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 , Fruits are very high in carbohydrates. No carbs means nothing that has sugars, natural or otherwise, and nothing starchy which turns to sugar in your mouth upon chewing and mixing with saliva. It is very important to be able to identify carbohydrates to be successful in cutting them out. There are two types of carbohydrates: Simple carbohydrates: These are found in fruits and are easily digested by the body. They are also often found in processed foods and anything with refined sugar added. Complex carbohydrates: These are found in nearly all plant-based foods, and usually take longer for the body to digest. They are most commonly found in bread, pasta, rice, and vegetables. Remember that milk, not cheese has plenty of carbs...peanuts have carbs. Peas, corn and carrots are high in carbs veggiewise....first two are starchy and carrots are sweet...sugary. I found this carb counter...it should help. http://www.carbohydrate-counter.org/ Basically for veggies I say stick to greens...that's your best bet for counting. I'd say stay at 20g carbs daily for one week...which is very low and unnatural and you'll may eat more protein than would be normal or balanced but remember it is just for one week to see how your pain reacts. But you must be strict. After that time,if you want to continue you can do low carb instead of no carb....or something that is more workable for you. Feel free to email me privately as well if you have questions about food items. Kit > Here's my menu for the last 4 days! > > breakfast: watermelon > lunch: watermelon > dinner: watermelon > > No kidding! I'm so hooked on watermelon right now it's just amazing to me. Everyday I go to the store and buy three more. The girls are really giggling about it now. > > Prior to that I was eating about 10 pounds of blueberries everyday. I just can't get enough of the fresh fruit this time of year. Interspersed with the melon I usually have 1 or 2 heads of lettuce from my garden. > > Shari > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2005 Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 Yogurt can't be eaten during the one week. Eggs and cheese, fish, poultry. You'll have to use cream instead of half/half if you need to have the coffee. BTW: Eggs are good for the adrenals. The first two weeks of Atkins calls for only 20grams per day....did you skip that part? Did you have a carbohydrate counter in order to keep track? You're not on any sort of cortisone or steroids for the pain, correct? Kit > > > " The variety of drugs responsible for vertigo consists in relatively > > > harmless substances like aspirin up to substances used in vertigo drug > > > therapy! " > > > > > > > > > > > > Suzi > > > > > > What is a weed? A plant whose virtues have not yet been discovered. > > > > > > www.onegrp.com/?mamanott organic cosmetics > > > http://suziesgoats.wholefoodfarmacy.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Start your day with - make it your home page > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2005 Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 Reilly wrote: > Thanks, I guess what I am trying to find out is if (I don't remember > who suggesteed it) I do no carbs for one week what can I eat? I don't > eat much meat - I lean towards raw food. > > Plus with FMS, it is not good to go on high protein - it is hard on > the body, so now I am confused. > > > mary > > *//* ========================= Hi , You only have three choices here. Protein, carbs or fats. I don't suggest you cutting out all carbs and proteins and eating only fats. Not very sensible nor healthy. I also don't suggest cutting out all fats and carbs and eating only proteins. That is not good for anyone nor is it healthy. I don't suggest that you cut out all proteins and fats and eat only carbs, unless they are from fully ripened sweet juicy fruits.. I do suggest that you cut out all refined sugars (they are not simple fruit sugars) and complex carbs (pastas, breads, potatos, etc) and consume only raw fully ripe fruits and raw green leafy vegetables (like baby spinach, arugula, lamb's lettuce, dandelion leaves, any kind of lettuce, kale, collards, etc). The sugars in fruits are very simple carbs/sugars that your body needs for energy and can be utilized almost instantly by the cells with no further processing by the body. Do not juice the fruits though and drink only the juice. Eat them, pulp and all as this will allow your body to absorb the sugars properly and over time, as the fiber/pulp, helps slow down absorption of the sugars instead of getting a blast when there is no fiber to slow down the absorption. I suggest the sweet juicy fruits like figs, persimmons, apples, bananas, cantaloupes and watermelons or honeydews. -- Peace be with you, . Don " Quai " Eitner " Spirit sleeps in the mineral, breathes in the vegetable, dreams in the animal and wakes in man. " Nearly all men die of their remedies, and not of their illnesses. ~Jean Baptiste Molière, Le Malade Imaginaire The obstacle is the path. ~Zen Proverb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2005 Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 I'd cut out all the dairy, nasty stuff. Shari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2005 Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 Don, Remember we're only talking about one week. Certainly, it's less harmful than a fast would be for her...in fact not-harmful for such a short term. This is for her pain response. That's all...then she can incorporate healthy low carb items. ...or go back to high carb fruits if she doesn't like the results. That is, if it happens, at all. Kit > > > Thanks, I guess what I am trying to find out is if (I don't remember > > who suggesteed it) I do no carbs for one week what can I eat? I don't > > eat much meat - I lean towards raw food. > > > > Plus with FMS, it is not good to go on high protein - it is hard on > > the body, so now I am confused. > > > > > > mary > > > > *//* > > ========================= > > > I suggest the sweet juicy fruits like figs, persimmons, apples, bananas, > cantaloupes and watermelons or honeydews. > > -- > Peace be with you, . > > Don " Quai " Eitner > > " Spirit sleeps in the mineral, breathes in the vegetable, dreams in the animal and wakes in man. " > > Nearly all men die of their remedies, and not of their illnesses. ~Baptiste Molière, Le Malade Imaginaire > > The obstacle is the path. ~Zen Proverb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2005 Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 Ooops ....gotcha....I missed that altogether...didn't get to sleep until after midnight and boy am I feeling it. I am having to correct soooooo many typos today. It is the one variable I feel the most when it goes out.....enough sleep. Sometimes, I won't even drive if it's bad enough. Kit > > > > " The variety of drugs responsible for vertigo consists in relatively > > > > harmless substances like aspirin up to substances used in > vertigo drug > > > > therapy! " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Suzi > > > > > > > > What is a weed? A plant whose virtues have not yet been discovered. > > > > > > > > www.onegrp.com/?mamanott organic cosmetics > > > > http://suziesgoats.wholefoodfarmacy.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > Start your day with - make it your home page > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2005 Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 kitcurtin wrote: > > Don, > > Remember we're only talking about one week. Certainly, it's less > harmful than a fast would be for her...in fact not-harmful for such a > short term. This is for her pain response. That's all...then she can > incorporate healthy low carb items. ...or go back to high carb fruits > if she doesn't like the results. That is, if it happens, at all. Kit > ========================= Well yes, I do understand. But no carbs for one week and she doesn't do protein only leaves fats. Definitely not good. Unless, of course, she fasts then she is doing no carbs, no proteins and no fats. It is her choice. She asked as she was confused and I answered from my perspective. I gave her an option she felt she could live with. I apologize if I over stepped on what you were suggesting to her. What do you consider to be a low carb item? Maybe we are sharing a confusion here on what a carb is. I believe we need to distinguish between the good carbs and the not so good carbs. The good carbs being the high carb fruits that provide our bodies with the natural fruit sugars that are extremely easily turned into cellular energy by the body. The not so good carbs being the refined sugars, pastas, grains, potatoes, etc., that cause all sorts of problems with peoples sugar imbalance, intestinal disturbances, etc. Are we both on the same page or are we talking apples and oranges (pun intended). ;-) -- Peace be with you, Kit. Don " Quai " Eitner " Spirit sleeps in the mineral, breathes in the vegetable, dreams in the animal and wakes in man. " Nearly all men die of their remedies, and not of their illnesses. ~Jean Baptiste Molière, Le Malade Imaginaire The obstacle is the path. ~Zen Proverb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2005 Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 > > > > > Don, > > > > Remember we're only talking about one week. Certainly, it's less > > harmful than a fast would be for her...in fact not-harmful for such a > > short term. This is for her pain response. That's all...then she can > > incorporate healthy low carb items. ...or go back to high carb fruits > > if she doesn't like the results. That is, if it happens, at all. Kit > > > ========================= > Well yes, I do understand. But no carbs for one week and she doesn't do > protein only leaves fats. Definitely not good. Unless, of course, she > fasts then she is doing no carbs, no proteins and no fats. It is her > choice. She asked as she was confused and I answered from my > perspective. I gave her an option she felt she could live with. I > apologize if I over stepped on what you were suggesting to her. > > What do you consider to be a low carb item? Maybe we are sharing a > confusion here on what a carb is. I believe we need to distinguish > between the good carbs and the not so good carbs. The good carbs being > the high carb fruits that provide our bodies with the natural fruit > sugars that are extremely easily turned into cellular energy by the > body. The not so good carbs being the refined sugars, pastas, grains, > potatoes, etc., that cause all sorts of problems with peoples sugar > imbalance, intestinal disturbances, etc. Are we both on the same page or > are we talking apples and oranges (pun intended). ;-) > > -- > Peace be with you, Kit. > > Don " Quai " Eitner > > " Spirit sleeps in the mineral, breathes in the vegetable, dreams in the animal and wakes in man. " > > Nearly all men die of their remedies, and not of their illnesses. ~Baptiste Molière, Le Malade Imaginaire > > The obstacle is the path. ~Zen Proverb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2005 Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 kitcurtin wrote: > > Don, > > Remember we're only talking about one week. Certainly, it's less > harmful than a fast would be for her...in fact not-harmful for such a > short term. This is for her pain response. That's all...then she can > incorporate healthy low carb items. ...or go back to high carb fruits > if she doesn't like the results. That is, if it happens, at all. Kit > ========================= PS-- fasting is never harmful if done properly and for the right reasons. It is much more harmful for the body to continue to apply bandaids and suppressing symptoms with stimulating herbs and medicines instead of addressing the cause. Just the 20% we don't agree on, yet!!! -- Peace be with you, Kit. Don " Quai " Eitner " Spirit sleeps in the mineral, breathes in the vegetable, dreams in the animal and wakes in man. " Nearly all men die of their remedies, and not of their illnesses. ~Jean Baptiste Molière, Le Malade Imaginaire The obstacle is the path. ~Zen Proverb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2005 Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 Oooops, sorry, Don..fired a blank...I think I'd better go take a nap!!! I didn't get that she's not eating protein. If that's so no wonder she's having such problems wit FMS. I sent her a carb counter...that's how I'm talking about carbs, measurement only, for the week....20 grams a day. Greens-only is about what gets it. Have you been reading the FMS stuff we've been posting. NO FRUITS...they are high carb...doesn't matter whether they are good carbs or not....that is not the purpose of the regimen. Kit -- In health , Don Quai <mysticalherbalist@y...> wrote: > kitcurtin wrote: > > > > > Don, > > > > Remember we're only talking about one week. Certainly, it's less > > harmful than a fast would be for her...in fact not-harmful for such a > > short term. This is for her pain response. That's all...then she can > > incorporate healthy low carb items. ...or go back to high carb fruits > > if she doesn't like the results. That is, if it happens, at all. Kit > > > ========================= > Well yes, I do understand. But no carbs for one week and she doesn't do > protein only leaves fats. Definitely not good. Unless, of course, she > fasts then she is doing no carbs, no proteins and no fats. It is her > choice. She asked as she was confused and I answered from my > perspective. I gave her an option she felt she could live with. I > apologize if I over stepped on what you were suggesting to her. > > What do you consider to be a low carb item? Maybe we are sharing a > confusion here on what a carb is. I believe we need to distinguish > between the good carbs and the not so good carbs. The good carbs being > the high carb fruits that provide our bodies with the natural fruit > sugars that are extremely easily turned into cellular energy by the > body. The not so good carbs being the refined sugars, pastas, grains, > potatoes, etc., that cause all sorts of problems with peoples sugar > imbalance, intestinal disturbances, etc. Are we both on the same page or > are we talking apples and oranges (pun intended). ;-) > > -- > Peace be with you, Kit. > > Don " Quai " Eitner > > " Spirit sleeps in the mineral, breathes in the vegetable, dreams in the animal and wakes in man. " > > Nearly all men die of their remedies, and not of their illnesses. ~Baptiste Molière, Le Malade Imaginaire > > The obstacle is the path. ~Zen Proverb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2005 Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 Well..my last answer to your fasting post got lost in the ethers so I guess I get another opportunity!! lol It is harmful for anyone who has blood sugar problems or anyone who is highly toxic, has a weak constitution or other metabolic disorders. Don,do you propose that diabetics should go on a fast? Even during Ramadan, people who cannot fast due to health reason will be exempt only the able-bodied are expected to participate. Pretty ancient custom, ta boot. There are other way to detox. Kit > > > > > Don, > > > > Remember we're only talking about one week. Certainly, it's less > > harmful than a fast would be for her...in fact not-harmful for such a > > short term. This is for her pain response. That's all...then she can > > incorporate healthy low carb items. ...or go back to high carb fruits > > if she doesn't like the results. That is, if it happens, at all. Kit > > > ========================= > PS-- fasting is never harmful if done properly and for the right > reasons. It is much more harmful for the body to continue to apply > bandaids and suppressing symptoms with stimulating herbs and medicines > instead of addressing the cause. > > Just the 20% we don't agree on, yet!!! > > -- > Peace be with you, Kit. > > Don " Quai " Eitner > > " Spirit sleeps in the mineral, breathes in the vegetable, dreams in the animal and wakes in man. " > > Nearly all men die of their remedies, and not of their illnesses. ~Baptiste Molière, Le Malade Imaginaire > > The obstacle is the path. ~Zen Proverb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2005 Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 kitcurtin wrote: > > Well..my last answer to your fasting post got lost in the ethers so I > guess I get another opportunity!! lol > > It is harmful for anyone who has blood sugar problems or anyone who is > highly toxic, has a weak constitution or other metabolic disorders. > Don,do you propose that diabetics should go on a fast? Even during > Ramadan, people who cannot fast due to health reason will be exempt > only the able-bodied are expected to participate. Pretty ancient > custom, ta boot. > > There are other way to detox. Kit =========================== Hi Kit, There is only one other way to " cleanse " that is completely safe and sane and that is to eat only raw living foods. There is no other way that does not enervate the body and create more problems. This is a fact, even though main stream medicos, TCM, Ayurveda and what not feel otherwise. This is the only two true natural ways of healing ones body totally and naturally with out wasting the bodies precious energies, attempting to rid the body of the toxic " medicaments " , that are better utilized in the healing of the body. As for anyone with blood sugar problems, no it is not harmful, quite the opposite. It has been shown time and again to heal and cure blood sugar problems which, by the way, is not a problem with sugar at all but a problem with dietary fat, at least until it becomes severly chronic. Fasting is not harmful to anyone with a weak constitution either as almost every person on the face of this planet has a weak constitution. It is natures natural way of healing. It is perfect, it is exact and nobody has ever died from fasting properly. Yes, many have died from fasting but only because they did not understand how to fast properly. Shoot many more have died from their remedies than have ever died from fasting. I whole heartedly propose that a diabetic fast. You betcha. However, I would not necessarily dump them into a fast right away. I would first eliminate all the fat from their diet and get them eating 100% raw living foods for awhile until their " blood sugar " problem was handled. Then I would suggest that they fast on water only. Herbs do not cure anyone and neither do medications. All they do is suppress and/or mask the symptoms. There is only one cure and one cure for all life on this planet and that is fasting when ill and only eating a species appropriate diet that is meant for the particular species. In the case of humans that is 100% raw living fruits and green leafy vegetables. And what I mean by fruits are the biologically classified fruits (all commonly thought of fruits, cucumbers, tomatoes, etc). Fasting is the only true way to health no matter what your metabolic disorders are, or what dis-ease you have. There is no other way to heal the body other than to allow the body to heal itself which it will do if you allow it to. All the pain one feels and distresses and disturbances are symptoms of something going on, but they are also the attempt of the body to heal itself. It is the healing that you feel with your FMS, PCOS, etc. Your body is trying to tell you something and at the same time is doing whatever it can to heal itself. If you don't allow that to occur then you are going to be suffering for years with these purchased labels until you do get out of the way and allow your body to heal itself naturally and perfectly. As for Ramadan, that is a tad different scenario as that has to do with observing certain religious aspects and practices of Islam. We are talking here about fasting for health, not necessarily religious aspects of Islam and Ramadan. Though the Quran and Ramadan are pretty ancient. Is this the other 80% we don't agree on? Yet? ;-) -- Peace be with you, Kit. Don " Quai " Eitner " Spirit sleeps in the mineral, breathes in the vegetable, dreams in the animal and wakes in man. " Nearly all men die of their remedies, and not of their illnesses. ~Jean Baptiste Molière, Le Malade Imaginaire The obstacle is the path. ~Zen Proverb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2005 Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 -Hi Don, I have no problems with any other disciplines that keep one healthy or heals a body. But it's sounding like religion to me. ;-) As in, I have the only true way. Only us raw foodists will go to 'heaven'. I guess that my main objective would be lead a long, happy and productive life....and help others to do the same. I don' think there is only one way. I think that raw food is a good way .... for some people. For others, for whatever reason, it would not accomplish the aforementioned objective. I don't obsess too much over regimens. I am opinionated, obviously...but I form my opinions from study....writings, and, life. I don't believe that all people have weak constitutions. Smacks of religion again. 'You are born of flesh, you are a sinner' somethin' like that. I know the you-are-not-yet-enlightened feeling towards unhealthy people or what I perceive to be unhealthy or less than healthy practices. I am working on ditching it. I do really well in the clinic ....I actually surprise myself.... I was once more like you, Don...including the raw food thing...and fasting. Nowadays, I work more on the compassion side than the 'dictator' side. Course, it's different on a health discussion list. ;-) And, hey, Don, that's cheating if you cure a diabetic's blood sugar problem before you put them on a fast, then they are not diabetic and not a person with blood sugar problems...uhhhh, thought you'd get that one by me, eh?! ;-D If you handle all those issues I mentioned before fasting...no problem, in my book. If one wants to go the raw food route, too, no problem. I guess I'd have to say I'm not a radical fundamentalist. I recognize energetic medicine and practices as great healers. Qigong has even had success with curing Cancer. And, fasting is fasting religious or otherwise (I realize Ramadan has it's set protocol) my point was they are long observant of fasting and even they recognize who should and should not fast. " Purchase labels " !!?? ....actually it was free since I found it myself...and only started the healing process after it was labelled and I could do the research. I had done fasting and raw foods while I had FMS...and I did not get better....sorry to say. (I'm sure you're muttering that I didn't do it right!) There is some damage that is done that cannot be reversed. My chiro hid the " label " from me for 12 years and retarded my progress for that long. I was devastated and felt wholly betrayed. You know I wish you all the best in your particular path of caring for yourself and others. I do that for everyone no matter what milestone they are at. Peace, love, joy to you, Kit PS. I don't have PCOS....please I've got enough on my plate....heh,heh pun intended. > > =========================== > Hi Kit, > > There is only one other way to " cleanse " that is completely safe and > sane and that is to eat only raw living foods. There is no other way > that does not enervate the body and create more problems. This is a > fact, even though main stream medicos, TCM, Ayurveda and what not feel > otherwise. This is the only two true natural ways of healing ones body > totally and naturally with out wasting the bodies precious energies, > attempting to rid the body of the toxic " medicaments " , that are better > utilized in the healing of the body. > > As for anyone with blood sugar problems, no it is not harmful, quite the > opposite. It has been shown time and again to heal and cure blood sugar > problems which, by the way, is not a problem with sugar at all but a > problem with dietary fat, at least until it becomes severly chronic. > Fasting is not harmful to anyone with a weak constitution either as > almost every person on the face of this planet has a weak constitution. > It is natures natural way of healing. It is perfect, it is exact and > nobody has ever died from fasting properly. Yes, many have died from > fasting but only because they did not understand how to fast properly. > Shoot many more have died from their remedies than have ever died from > fasting. I whole heartedly propose that a diabetic fast. You betcha. > However, I would not necessarily dump them into a fast right away. I > would first eliminate all the fat from their diet and get them eating > 100% raw living foods for awhile until their " blood sugar " problem was > handled. Then I would suggest that they fast on water only. Herbs do not > cure anyone and neither do medications. All they do is suppress and/or > mask the symptoms. There is only one cure and one cure for all life on > this planet and that is fasting when ill and only eating a species > appropriate diet that is meant for the particular species. In the case > of humans that is 100% raw living fruits and green leafy vegetables. And > what I mean by fruits are the biologically classified fruits (all > commonly thought of fruits, cucumbers, tomatoes, etc). > > Fasting is the only true way to health no matter what your metabolic > disorders are, or what dis-ease you have. There is no other way to heal > the body other than to allow the body to heal itself which it will do if > you allow it to. All the pain one feels and distresses and disturbances > are symptoms of something going on, but they are also the attempt of the > body to heal itself. It is the healing that you feel with your FMS, > PCOS, etc. Your body is trying to tell you something and at the same > time is doing whatever it can to heal itself. If you don't allow that to > occur then you are going to be suffering for years with these purchased > labels until you do get out of the way and allow your body to heal > itself naturally and perfectly. > > As for Ramadan, that is a tad different scenario as that has to do with > observing certain religious aspects and practices of Islam. We are > talking here about fasting for health, not necessarily religious aspects > of Islam and Ramadan. Though the Quran and Ramadan are pretty ancient. > Is this the other 80% we don't agree on? Yet? ;-) > > -- > Peace be with you, Kit. > > Don " Quai " Eitner > > " Spirit sleeps in the mineral, breathes in the vegetable, dreams in the animal and wakes in man. " > > Nearly all men die of their remedies, and not of their illnesses. ~Baptiste Molière, Le Malade Imaginaire > > The obstacle is the path. ~Zen Proverb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2010 Report Share Posted July 30, 2010 Hi Lynn: If you take Calcium Lactate, the most absorb-able calcium there is, you will not have any build-up. I use Standard Process Calcium Lactate, and its a great calmer, has the right proportions of calcium to magnesium and is an over-all body healer. A lot of people are taking Calcium Carbonate (Corral Calcium) and this is a poison as far as my studies tell me, and what most likely is causing the calcium to build up. It's pure limestone! Here's the PDF to the Standard Process Product: http://www.standardprocess.com/display/displayFile.aspx?docid=53 & filename=/Publi\ c/Lit/TabSheets/calciumlactatepowder1925.pdf As fro the carbs, you really should read and or see the video's and other great info. on Matt Stones 180degree health concerning carbs. That's one reason I love Nourishing Traditions, and Sally Fallon's take on foods. We need to stop eliminating foods just because of this or that article or study says its bad. Unless you are severely allergic to something, I would not exclude it. I love complex carbs, especially root vegetables. They are very gut healthy. My two pennies :>) Atwood http://www.traditionalcook.com From: lynn <lynn@...> Subject: No carbs I have read that the body does not need carbs at all, including veg. Can someone explain how you get sufficient vitamins and minerals, especially calcium and magnesium without veg? I heard on the news today, (UK) calcium supplements can cause heart attacks. I do eat some veg, but am concerned I am not getting enough nutrients. Lynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2010 Report Share Posted July 30, 2010 Hi , thanks for the info. Lynn > > Hi Lynn: > If you take Calcium Lactate, the most absorb-able calcium there is, you will not have any build-up. I use Standard Process Calcium Lactate, and its a great calmer, has the right proportions of calcium to magnesium and is an over-all body healer. A lot of people are taking Calcium Carbonate (Corral Calcium) and this is a poison as far as my studies tell me, and what most likely is causing the calcium to build up. It's pure limestone! > Here's the PDF to the Standard Process Product: > http://www.standardprocess.com/display/displayFile.aspx?docid=53 & filename=/Publi\ c/Lit/TabSheets/calciumlactatepowder1925.pdf > > As fro the carbs, you really should read and or see the video's and other great info. on Matt Stones 180degree health concerning carbs. That's one reason I love Nourishing Traditions, and Sally Fallon's take on foods. We need to stop eliminating foods just because of this or that article or study says its bad. Unless you are severely allergic to something, I would not exclude it. I love complex carbs, especially root vegetables. They are very gut healthy. > > My two pennies :>) > Atwood > http://www.traditionalcook.com > > > > From: lynn <lynn@...> > Subject: No carbs > > I have read that the body does not need carbs at all, including veg. > > Can someone explain how you get sufficient vitamins and minerals, especially calcium and magnesium without veg? > > I heard on the news today, (UK) calcium supplements can cause heart attacks. > > I do eat some veg, but am concerned I am not getting enough nutrients. > > Lynn > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2010 Report Share Posted July 30, 2010 My advice is: generally stay away from calcium supplements completely and concentrate on magnesium. Get as much magnesium as you can via both transdermal and oral. If you disagree and want to experiment, when you start getting foot and leg cramps (and you will), please back off and follow my advice. Read Dr. Mark Sircus' book, " Transdermal Magnesium. " He is not an MD, but is telling the truth. Hi Lynn: If you take Calcium Lactate, the most absorb-able calcium there is, you will not have any build-up. I use Standard Process Calcium Lactate, and its a great calmer, has the right proportions of calcium to magnesium and is an over-all body healer. A lot of people are taking Calcium Carbonate (Corral Calcium) and this is a poison as far as my studies tell me, and what most likely is causing the calcium to build up. It's pure limestone! Here's the PDF to the Standard Process Product: http://www.standardprocess.com/display/displayFile.aspx?docid=53 & filename=/Publi\ c/Lit/TabSheets/calciumlactatepowder1925.pdf As fro the carbs, you really should read and or see the video's and other great info. on Matt Stones 180degree health concerning carbs. That's one reason I love Nourishing Traditions, and Sally Fallon's take on foods. We need to stop eliminating foods just because of this or that article or study says its bad. Unless you are severely allergic to something, I would not exclude it. I love complex carbs, especially root vegetables. They are very gut healthy. My two pennies :>) Atwood http://www.traditionalcook.com From: lynn < lynn@... > Subject: No carbs I have read that the body does not need carbs at all, including veg. Can someone explain how you get sufficient vitamins and minerals, especially calcium and magnesium without veg? I heard on the news today, (UK) calcium supplements can cause heart attacks. I do eat some veg, but am concerned I am not getting enough nutrients. Lynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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