Guest guest Posted April 16, 2010 Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 How's everyone doing on the whey & selenium? Jaqui wrote: I was using Immunocal by having a friend ship it to me from the states over a year ago - it was great! Just too expensive to maintain and now with bub no can do - but I noticed such a HUGE difference. Looking for other things containing the three amino acids (precursers) for Glutathione which seems the best way to go - taking Glutathione directly leaves the system too quickly. I saw that one looked into it one of those pyramid scheme things checked out its production not as good as Immunocal...lot of comapnies now jumping on the bandwagon. On 16/04/10 11:51 PM, " Vapi Kupenga " <vapi.kupenga@...> wrote: The difference between Whey and the supplement that Dr Keller designed is H U G E ! Whey will only go to some of the cells – not ALL of the cells. Whereas Dr Keller's supplement is an Accelerant, which means it accelerates the body to produce the glutathione, and when the body (which is the natural producer of glutathione) produces the glutathione it goes to ALL of the cells. Dr Keller's maxgxl works on 3 levels – 1. It is the Master Antioxidant, 2. It is the Master Detoxer, and 3. It is a Blood Cleanser and Booster. And if it works on those 3 levels, it would be regularly cleansing the cells. There's more but I would like to talk with you than through emails. Naku na Vapi PS: I have been studying Glutathione for over 2 years. http://www.maxiseasy.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2010 Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 You don't need Immunocal; Immunocal reps sell you a bill o' goods that said only Immunocal yada yada... I used to sell it myself, until I learned of the less expensive options. All the cold-processed wheys produce glutathione. And, components of the whey do enter every cell, even bone cells, to build glutathione. MAX GXL contains the main ingredient n-acetylcysteine, which hydrolyses to cysteine, a toxin, when it hits water. And, the liver gets most of it, so very little is seen by the rest of the cells, and of that, the half life is just a few hours all good, Duncan > > > The difference between Whey and the supplement that Dr Keller designed is H U G E ! > Whey will only go to some of the cells – not ALL of the cells. Whereas Dr Keller's supplement is an Accelerant, which means it accelerates the body to produce the glutathione, and when the body (which is the natural producer of glutathione) produces the glutathione it goes to ALL of the cells. > > Dr Keller's maxgxl works on 3 levels – 1. It is the Master Antioxidant, 2. It is the Master Detoxer, and 3. It is a Blood Cleanser and Booster. And if it works on those 3 levels, it would be regularly cleansing the cells. > > There's more but I would like to talk with you than through emails. > > Naku na Vapi > > PS: I have been studying Glutathione for over 2 years. > http://www.maxiseasy.com/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2010 Report Share Posted April 17, 2010 So do you simply buy supplements, cold processed undenatured whey & selenium will that do the same as MAX GXL to build glutathione levels? candidiasis From: duncancrow@... Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 16:43:58 +0000 Subject: Re: supplements, cold processed undenatured whey & selenium You don't need Immunocal; Immunocal reps sell you a bill o' goods that said only Immunocal yada yada... I used to sell it myself, until I learned of the less expensive options. All the cold-processed wheys produce glutathione. And, components of the whey do enter every cell, even bone cells, to build glutathione. MAX GXL contains the main ingredient n-acetylcysteine, which hydrolyses to cysteine, a toxin, when it hits water. And, the liver gets most of it, so very little is seen by the rest of the cells, and of that, the half life is just a few hours all good, Duncan > > > The difference between Whey and the supplement that Dr Keller designed is H U G E ! > Whey will only go to some of the cells – not ALL of the cells. Whereas Dr Keller's supplement is an Accelerant, which means it accelerates the body to produce the glutathione, and when the body (which is the natural producer of glutathione) produces the glutathione it goes to ALL of the cells. > > Dr Keller's maxgxl works on 3 levels – 1. It is the Master Antioxidant, 2. It is the Master Detoxer, and 3. It is a Blood Cleanser and Booster. And if it works on those 3 levels, it would be regularly cleansing the cells. > > There's more but I would like to talk with you than through emails. > > Naku na Vapi > > PS: I have been studying Glutathione for over 2 years. > http://www.maxiseasy.com/ > _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount & ocid=PID28326::\ T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2010 Report Share Posted April 17, 2010 Bobby, MAXGXL's claim to fame is the n-acetylcysteine. You can get it pretty cheap but you'll need 500 mg oral about 4-5 times a day and it may produce symptoms of toxicity at even that dose. MAXGXL contains much less NAC than that I'm afraid, and the dosing isn't often enough to prevent glutathione levels from plummeting between doses, smetimes to below original values, so you'd need cold-extracted whey as well to keep glutathione levels up for 8-10 hours. all good, Duncan > > > > > > > > > The difference between Whey and the supplement that Dr Keller designed is H U G E ! > > > Whey will only go to some of the cells – not ALL of the cells. Whereas Dr Keller's supplement is an Accelerant, which means it accelerates the body to produce the glutathione, and when the body (which is the natural producer of glutathione) produces the glutathione it goes to ALL of the cells. > > > > > > Dr Keller's maxgxl works on 3 levels – 1. It is the Master Antioxidant, 2. It is the Master Detoxer, and 3. It is a Blood Cleanser and Booster. And if it works on those 3 levels, it would be regularly cleansing the cells. > > > > > > There's more but I would like to talk with you than through emails. > > > > > > Naku na Vapi > > > > > > PS: I have been studying Glutathione for over 2 years. > > > http://www.maxiseasy.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount & ocid=PID28326::\ T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2010 Report Share Posted April 18, 2010 Bobby, cold processed whey and selenium is better than MAXGXL because: 1) whey/selenium doesn't contain free NAC or cysteine, which is toxic, so there's less no downside compared to NAC/cysteine. 2) the increased glutathione from whey/selenium has an almost 8 hours half life compared to NAC's 4, so the glutathione levels are more steady, tend to be higher and drop more slowly, and dosing can be less frequent. 3) with NAC you have to dose every 4 hours to avoid quickly plummeting glutathione between doses. This invites complications, for example low glutathione actually stimulates infection, and energy cycle needs a lot of it too. Whey and selenium is absolutely proven to increase glutathione at normal shake doses, but I'm not so sure about the very low NAC dose in MAXGXL being very much useful because the does isn't even there anyway. I don't think much of it as a supplement. all good, Duncan > > > > > > > > > The difference between Whey and the supplement that Dr Keller designed is H U G E ! > > > Whey will only go to some of the cells – not ALL of the cells. Whereas Dr Keller's supplement is an Accelerant, which means it accelerates the body to produce the glutathione, and when the body (which is the natural producer of glutathione) produces the glutathione it goes to ALL of the cells. > > > > > > Dr Keller's maxgxl works on 3 levels – 1. It is the Master Antioxidant, 2. It is the Master Detoxer, and 3. It is a Blood Cleanser and Booster. And if it works on those 3 levels, it would be regularly cleansing the cells. > > > > > > There's more but I would like to talk with you than through emails. > > > > > > Naku na Vapi > > > > > > PS: I have been studying Glutathione for over 2 years. > > > http://www.maxiseasy.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount & ocid=PID28326::\ T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2010 Report Share Posted April 18, 2010 Thanks so where can I get cold-extracted whey and How much will it cost and will it make me feel better battling Candida? candidiasis From: duncancrow@... Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 07:44:25 +0000 Subject: Re: supplements, cold processed undenatured whey & selenium Bobby, MAXGXL's claim to fame is the n-acetylcysteine. You can get it pretty cheap but you'll need 500 mg oral about 4-5 times a day and it may produce symptoms of toxicity at even that dose. MAXGXL contains much less NAC than that I'm afraid, and the dosing isn't often enough to prevent glutathione levels from plummeting between doses, smetimes to below original values, so you'd need cold-extracted whey as well to keep glutathione levels up for 8-10 hours. all good, Duncan > > > > > > > > > The difference between Whey and the supplement that Dr Keller designed is H U G E ! > > > Whey will only go to some of the cells – not ALL of the cells. Whereas Dr Keller's supplement is an Accelerant, which means it accelerates the body to produce the glutathione, and when the body (which is the natural producer of glutathione) produces the glutathione it goes to ALL of the cells. > > > > > > Dr Keller's maxgxl works on 3 levels – 1. It is the Master Antioxidant, 2. It is the Master Detoxer, and 3. It is a Blood Cleanser and Booster. And if it works on those 3 levels, it would be regularly cleansing the cells. > > > > > > There's more but I would like to talk with you than through emails. > > > > > > Naku na Vapi > > > > > > PS: I have been studying Glutathione for over 2 years. > > > http://www.maxiseasy.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount & ocid=PID28326::\ T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2010 Report Share Posted April 18, 2010 wow thanks for the tip Duncan you are the BEST!!! candidiasis From: duncancrow@... Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 04:49:34 +0000 Subject: Re: supplements, cold processed undenatured whey & selenium Bobby, cold processed whey and selenium is better than MAXGXL because: 1) whey/selenium doesn't contain free NAC or cysteine, which is toxic, so there's less no downside compared to NAC/cysteine. 2) the increased glutathione from whey/selenium has an almost 8 hours half life compared to NAC's 4, so the glutathione levels are more steady, tend to be higher and drop more slowly, and dosing can be less frequent. 3) with NAC you have to dose every 4 hours to avoid quickly plummeting glutathione between doses. This invites complications, for example low glutathione actually stimulates infection, and energy cycle needs a lot of it too. Whey and selenium is absolutely proven to increase glutathione at normal shake doses, but I'm not so sure about the very low NAC dose in MAXGXL being very much useful because the does isn't even there anyway. I don't think much of it as a supplement. all good, Duncan > > > > > > > > > The difference between Whey and the supplement that Dr Keller designed is H U G E ! > > > Whey will only go to some of the cells – not ALL of the cells. Whereas Dr Keller's supplement is an Accelerant, which means it accelerates the body to produce the glutathione, and when the body (which is the natural producer of glutathione) produces the glutathione it goes to ALL of the cells. > > > > > > Dr Keller's maxgxl works on 3 levels – 1. It is the Master Antioxidant, 2. It is the Master Detoxer, and 3. It is a Blood Cleanser and Booster. And if it works on those 3 levels, it would be regularly cleansing the cells. > > > > > > There's more but I would like to talk with you than through emails. > > > > > > Naku na Vapi > > > > > > PS: I have been studying Glutathione for over 2 years. > > > http://www.maxiseasy.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount & ocid=PID28326::\ T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 Bobby, cold processed whey will help detox you Bobby and it contains some compounds that thwart pathogen adhesion in the gut, so it should make you feel better, yes. You can buy it anywhere; I get mine the old-fashioned way at London Drugs or Superstore, but I've put a page up for online buyers to compare using my notes at the bottom of the page: http://tinyurl.com/whey-page I think you'll probably do 4-5 lbs a month (with selenium 200-600 mcg) until you're better, then 2 lbs a month for anti-aging. all good, Duncan > > > Thanks so where can I get cold-extracted whey and How much will it cost and will it make me feel better battling Candida? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 Thanks Duncan will purchase these items this week. So basically just take the whey powder as recommend and the selenium tablets that all? And this should help me feel better from battling Candida? candidiasis From: duncancrow@... Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 05:09:16 +0000 Subject: Re: supplements, cold processed undenatured whey & selenium Bobby, cold processed whey will help detox you Bobby and it contains some compounds that thwart pathogen adhesion in the gut, so it should make you feel better, yes. You can buy it anywhere; I get mine the old-fashioned way at London Drugs or Superstore, but I've put a page up for online buyers to compare using my notes at the bottom of the page: http://tinyurl.com/whey-page I think you'll probably do 4-5 lbs a month (with selenium 200-600 mcg) until you're better, then 2 lbs a month for anti-aging. all good, Duncan > > > Thanks so where can I get cold-extracted whey and How much will it cost and will it make me feel better battling Candida? > > _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en\ -US:WM_HMP:042010_3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2010 Report Share Posted April 21, 2010 Bobby, whey and selenium support biology by strengthening cells including immune cells. Cells that are high in glutathione, their product, do not succumb to infection or toxic assault as easily as those with low glutahtione. Low glutathione actually stimulates infection according to some research. Glutathione is instrumental in energy creation, and it is used in about 200 crucial reactions including thyroid. So in this way they do make many people feel better. You can reduce candida considerably by attending to a low-carb diet and either using a lot of inulin foods or adding inulin to your food. Same thing. You can also help it along by high-dosing probiotics, something upwards of 20 capsules each time; VSL#3 amounts to about 150 capsules of 3 billion. Use more bifidobacteia strains; this kind of probiotic is way more connected with bowel health than lactobacilli. all good, Duncan > > > Thanks Duncan will purchase these items this week. So basically just take the whey powder as recommend and the selenium tablets that all? And this should help me feel better from battling Candida? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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