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Hi Azalyne. Yes, you have it right. But I will say that there are people

on the list that feel as if MMS does kill good bacteria with the bad. That

is just their belief, but as there's no way to prove or disprove--you have

to do what feels right to you. Jim Humble has used this for over 10 years

and says it doesn't kill anything we are suppose to have in our system--but

then, there's no proof either.

Jim says to take it every day for the rest of your life if you are over 40,

and many people disagree with that.

Jim says it removes heavy metal and many people disagree with that.

Still, there isn't any way to prove or disprove any of it because no company

is going to take on the job of testing it. There's no money to be made in

it. I personally take Jim's word on MMS because he's had more use of it

than anyone else that I know of. But if you join either of the 2

groups I listed, you will hear people argue both sides of each of the above

issues. :-)

Samala,

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I did a bunch of research on the MMS last night. Somebody correct me

if I've misunderstood, but it seems that when you combine the sodium

chorite with the citric acid it produces chlorine dioxide in the form

of a gas which you add juice to and drink. Is this correct? The other

thing that I heard Humble say in one of the interviews is that

because it goes straight into blood stream (perhaps because of its

gaseous form??) it does not go through your digestive tract and

therefore does not kill the good flora in your gut. I'm all for

taking probiotics daily anyhow, but found this tidbit interesting.

~Azalyne

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It is suppose to be able to differentiate by ph. All good bacteria lives at

an alkaline base level and all bad bacteria lives at an acid level.

According to Jim Humble. And supposedly the MMS only kills the pathogens

(including fungus and parasites) that live at an acid ph level.

It is now pretty much proven that a low ph level in the body is the cause of

disease. It is easy to check your ph level by buying ph test paper and

testing your urine every morning. It should be between 6.8 and 7.2 to be

healthy. Below 6 is bad for anyone, and where disease starts to show up.

So by killing any bacteria that thrive in the lower ph range, you are, in

effect, killing disease.

Jim says that once you reach your highest dose level, and stay there for

about 2 weeks to make sure things are all killed off that shouldn't be there

:-) then you got on a maintenance dose every day. He thinks anyone over 40

should be on the maintenance dose every day due to their immune system not

being in the best of shape and he thinks that the MMS somehow strengthens

the immune system once everything bad is destroyed. And he says people

under 40 can use the maintenance dose at a rate of 3 times a week, because

their system is younger and stronger.

Again, many people feel that it is not right to take anything every day for

the rest of your life--and they worry about the MMS actually killing good

bacteria eventually. So the best compromise is to pulse the MMS--meaning

take it for the 3 times per week always, no matter what your age, or to take

it one week on and one week off.

Continued use is just to keep anything else from getting hold in you again.

But it is possible to take it only when you feel bad--as if you are coming

down with a cold or flu. It becomes a personal choice.

Samala,

-------Original Message-------

You wouldn't want to take this " all the time " , right? Because of it

getting rid of the bacteria in your system. You certainly don't want

to get rid of the good bacteria, and there is no way for the MMS to

differentiate, right? And I suppose you would want to also take

probiotics while you are taking the MMS?

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In a message dated 1/5/2008 1:23:06 PM Eastern Standard Time,

gaiacita@... writes:

Hey Duncan. It is not carcinogenic if taken in the small ppm that we use.

Not everyone has access to oxygen therapy, whereas most everyone can afford

a $10 bottle of MMS that will last from 6 months to a year for a family of 4

I always tell people (people new to MMS don't quite grasp this) that MMS

kills things--it does NOT support the body any other way.

Great explanation and advice !

I have been taking MMS off and on for several months now. Before

taking the MMS I started with the Inulin/Whey/Selenium protocol for a month or

so

but never seemed to be able to normalize my gut.

After I started taking small doses of AMMS (activated MMS) daily for

about 2-3 weeks my gut finally normalized and it has been fine since. So I

found in my case Jim Himble is correct when he says the MMS will not affect the

good bacteria in the gut but will only kill off the bad bacteria. I still

continue to take some Inulin daily for good measure.

I notice numerous other benefits from taking the AMMS - increased

energy, less fatigue at the end of a long day, better breathing, better sleep.

Another thing the AMMS is great for is brushing the teeth with . Just mix up

about 6-8 ounces of diluted AMMS using about 6 drops of MMS to start plus the

activator, swish it around in your mouth, gargle and brush your teeth with it

while swishing it around, then rinse thoroughly.

My teeth have never been so clean and my gums feel better than they

have felt in years. The AMMS will kill the bad bacteria in the mouth that causes

gum disease and tooth loss. If everyone used AMMS to brush their teeth with,

it would probably put a lot of dentists out of business.

Todd R

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The good bacteria resides at a higher ph than the bad bacteria. MMS kills

bacteria at lower ph. Again--there's no proof that it only kills in the

blood stream and not the gut. Jim says no, but some members of the lists

say they feel, that for THEM, it does kill bacteria in the gut. Therefor,

if someone was worried about MMS killing good gut bacteria, you would take

probiotics to make sure the gut stayed populated.

Samala,

-------Original Message-------

So then it's killing bacteria only in your blood stream? So, is ALL

the bacteria in your blood stream the bad kind that you want to kill?

Why doesn't this MMS kill the good bacteria too?

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Hey Duncan. It is not carcinogenic if taken in the small ppm that we use.

Not everyone has access to oxygen therapy, whereas most everyone can afford

a $10 bottle of MMS that will last from 6 months to a year for a family of 4

I always tell people (people new to MMS don't quite grasp this) that MMS

kills things--it does NOT support the body any other way. So if you need

more iron, or more iodine, or more vit. E, or more glutathione (:-) then you

must continue to take that. Many people look at MMS as the magic bullet

because it makes them feel so great right off the bat, if they don't over

dose and go into a herx from the high die-off. But if they take it slowly

and ramp up slowly, people are finding immediate results in many different

areas--breathing, energy, sleeping to name a few. Still, the body needs to

be supported while killing off pathogens.

MMS can be alkalizing. Some people put straight MMS (not activated with

acid) into water to drink all day long. MMS has a ph of 13 straight from

the bottle. It is nothing more that stabilized oxygen, which has been sold

for years and years as an alkalizer and oxygenator. Jim says it does NOT

produce extra oxygen molecules, but allows oxygen to be better utilized by

the body. The faster, more effective killing effect comes from activating

the MMS--but even taking straight unactivated will, eventually, do the same

job. It's just that most people want a faster path to feeling better.

Samala,

-------Original Message-------

MMS is supposed to work " in " the body's cells; wouldn't it be better

to use oxygen therapy, which is actually good for you and alkalizing?

Chlorine created by MMS is a known carcinogen.

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Greetings

Very well explained!

<gaiacita@...> wrote: Hey Duncan.

It is not carcinogenic if taken in the small ppm that we use.

Not everyone has access to oxygen therapy, whereas most everyone can afford

a $10 bottle of MMS that will last from 6 months to a year for a family of 4

I always tell people (people new to MMS don't quite grasp this) that MMS

kills things--it does NOT support the body any other way. So if you need

more iron, or more iodine, or more vit. E, or more glutathione (:-) then you

must continue to take that. Many people look at MMS as the magic bullet

because it makes them feel so great right off the bat, if they don't over

dose and go into a herx from the high die-off. But if they take it slowly

and ramp up slowly, people are finding immediate results in many different

areas--breathing, energy, sleeping to name a few. Still, the body needs to

be supported while killing off pathogens.

MMS can be alkalizing. Some people put straight MMS (not activated with

acid) into water to drink all day long. MMS has a ph of 13 straight from

the bottle. It is nothing more that stabilized oxygen, which has been sold

for years and years as an alkalizer and oxygenator. Jim says it does NOT

produce extra oxygen molecules, but allows oxygen to be better utilized by

the body. The faster, more effective killing effect comes from activating

the MMS--but even taking straight unactivated will, eventually, do the same

job. It's just that most people want a faster path to feeling better.

Samala,

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I use CS for this. Dee

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Another thing the AMMS is great for is brushing the teeth with . Just mix up

about 6-8 ounces of diluted AMMS using about 6 drops of MMS to start plus

the

activator, swish it around in your mouth, gargle and brush your teeth with

it

while swishing it around, then rinse thoroughly.

My teeth have never been so clean and my gums feel better than they

have felt in years. The AMMS will kill the bad bacteria in the mouth that

causes

gum disease and tooth loss. If everyone used AMMS to brush their teeth with,

it would probably put a lot of dentists out of business.

Todd R

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I agree Todd. I use it for this purpose and like you, my teeth have never

felt so clean before!

Samala,

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Another thing the AMMS is great for is brushing the teeth with . Just mix up

about 6-8 ounces of diluted AMMS using about 6 drops of MMS to start plus

the

activator, swish it around in your mouth, gargle and brush your teeth with

it

while swishing it around, then rinse thoroughly.

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Hi There

Where can I buy MMS.

Regards

McKelvey U.K.

--- <gaiacita@...> wrote:

> It is suppose to be able to differentiate by ph.

> All good bacteria lives at

> an alkaline base level and all bad bacteria lives at

> an acid level.

> According to Jim Humble. And supposedly the MMS

> only kills the pathogens

> (including fungus and parasites) that live at an

> acid ph level.

>

> It is now pretty much proven that a low ph level in

> the body is the cause of

> disease. It is easy to check your ph level by

> buying ph test paper and

> testing your urine every morning. It should be

> between 6.8 and 7.2 to be

> healthy. Below 6 is bad for anyone, and where

> disease starts to show up.

> So by killing any bacteria that thrive in the lower

> ph range, you are, in

> effect, killing disease.

>

> Jim says that once you reach your highest dose

> level, and stay there for

> about 2 weeks to make sure things are all killed off

> that shouldn't be there

> :-) then you got on a maintenance dose every day.

> He thinks anyone over 40

> should be on the maintenance dose every day due to

> their immune system not

> being in the best of shape and he thinks that the

> MMS somehow strengthens

> the immune system once everything bad is destroyed.

> And he says people

> under 40 can use the maintenance dose at a rate of 3

> times a week, because

> their system is younger and stronger.

>

> Again, many people feel that it is not right to take

> anything every day for

> the rest of your life--and they worry about the MMS

> actually killing good

> bacteria eventually. So the best compromise is to

> pulse the MMS--meaning

> take it for the 3 times per week always, no matter

> what your age, or to take

> it one week on and one week off.

>

> Continued use is just to keep anything else from

> getting hold in you again.

> But it is possible to take it only when you feel

> bad--as if you are coming

> down with a cold or flu. It becomes a personal

> choice.

>

> Samala,

>

>

> -------Original Message-------

>

> You wouldn't want to take this " all the time " ,

> right? Because of it

> getting rid of the bacteria in your system. You

> certainly don't want

> to get rid of the good bacteria, and there is no way

> for the MMS to

> differentiate, right? And I suppose you would want

> to also take

> probiotics while you are taking the MMS?

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

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Healthy New Year

, s is selling it.

http://www.ener-chi.com/

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NieeMA

McKelvey <kmmckelvey@...> wrote:

Hi There

Where can I buy MMS.

Regards

McKelvey U.K.

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In a message dated 1/6/2008 6:49:30 PM Eastern Standard Time,

jacobadler123@... writes:

What is AMMS and how is it different from MMS? Are these sold through the

same companies?

Thanks,

Hi ,

AMMS is just another term for MMS after it has been activated by adding the

Citric Acid.

Just a way to differentiate between plain MMS which is a Sodium Chlorite 28%

solution and the MMS after you add the activator = AMMS = activated MMS.

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Hi . I sell it for $10 a bottle plus either $7 priority shipping

or $5 regular shipping. You can contact me via gaiacita@... if you

are interested.

Samala,

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Hi There

Where can I buy MMS.

Regards

McKelvey U.K.

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What is AMMS and how is it different from MMS? Are these sold through the same

companies?

Thanks,

toddroberts2001@... wrote:

After I started taking small doses of AMMS (activated MMS) daily for

about 2-3 weeks my gut finally normalized and it has been fine since. So I

found in my case Jim Himble is correct when he says the MMS will not affect the

good bacteria in the gut but will only kill off the bad bacteria. I still

continue to take some Inulin daily for good measure.

I notice numerous other benefits from taking the AMMS - increased

energy, less fatigue at the end of a long day, better breathing, better sleep.

Another thing the AMMS is great for is brushing the teeth with . Just mix up

about 6-8 ounces of diluted AMMS using about 6 drops of MMS to start plus the

activator, swish it around in your mouth, gargle and brush your teeth with it

while swishing it around, then rinse thoroughly.

My teeth have never been so clean and my gums feel better than they

have felt in years. The AMMS will kill the bad bacteria in the mouth that causes

gum disease and tooth loss. If everyone used AMMS to brush their teeth with,

it would probably put a lot of dentists out of business.

Todd R

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AMMS and MMS is the same thing actually. Jim Humble, in his books, calls

what is in the bottle and what just starting with MMS so I took to calling

what is in the bottle MMS and what you have mixed with acid (MMS, add acid,

wait 3 minutes, add water or juice) and drink AMMS for activated MMS, just

to differentiate when writing about the protocol. People thought this was a

good idea and began using it. I was trying to explain the protocol to a

German friend of mine and she kept getting mixed up about MMS and what the

drink was. :-) So, AMMS to say what the drink was.

So--MMS is sodium chlorite and water, AMMS is MMS with acid added, wait 3

minutes to form chlorine dioxide, mix with water or juice and drink.

Hope this helps.

Samala,

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What is AMMS and how is it different from MMS? Are these sold through the

same companies?

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Well, that message got all boogered up!!!! Sorry--don't know how that

happened. Here it is, clearer--I hope!

AMMS and MMS is the same thing actually. Jim Humble, in his books, calls

Both what is in the bottle and what you have mixed with acid to drink, MMS.

It was so confusing to a German friend of mine that I was trying to explain

the protocol to, so that I started calling what is in the bottle MMS and

what the MMS that is mixed with acid, allowed to sit for 3 minutes to

activate, and then mixed with water or juice before drinking, AMMS for

Activated MMS. It made it much easier for her to understand. Others

thought this was a good idea and starting using the 2 terms to differentiate

the 2 " different " liquids.

Samala,

-------Original Message-------

AMMS and MMS is the same thing actually. Jim Humble, in his books, calls

what is in the bottle and what just starting with MMS so I took to calling

what is in the bottle MMS and what you have mixed with acid (MMS, add acid,

wait 3 minutes, add water or juice) and drink AMMS for activated MMS, just

to differentiate when writing about the protocol. People thought this was a

good idea and began using it. I was trying to explain the protocol to a

German friend of mine and she kept getting mixed up about MMS and what the

drink was. :-) So, AMMS to say what the drink was.

So--MMS is sodium chlorite and water, AMMS is MMS with acid added, wait 3

minutes to form chlorine dioxide, mix with water or juice and drink.

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Hi . Some people have experienced heart palpitations. Usually after

a while they stop, but you should be aware of that. Sometimes it is just

pointing up a need for magnesium/potassium, which has stopped the

palpitations. Other than that I can't recall any other negative

effects--outside of the vomiting and/or diarrhea. Lol But this is pretty

controllable by how fast you ramp up the dose.

I will say that many people experience pain in areas where they had wounds

or breaks before--sometimes years before! This has happened so often that

we tend to think that though the wound (say a broken bone) was considered

totally healed, there must have been some virus or bacteria hidden deep in

the wound that the MMS is bringing out. Normally, these types of pains go

away within a day, two at the most.

Other people experience skin rashes, pimples, one person got a boil. But

these are NOT from the MMS--even the people that experience these things say

they are not from the MMS, but from what the MMS is driving out of the body.

If your body isn't able to throw off the toxins (or you don't take any

toxin binding supplement--not everyone does, but a few people find it easier

on their bodies if they take some toxin binding supplement like clay or

zeolite) it will try to come out through the skin.

Other than these things--no negative effects, especially anything permanent.

Samala,

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Has anyone had bad experiences on MMS - or does it merely have a good

effect or nothing?

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Thankyou Nieema and a Happy New Year to you.

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> McKelvey <kmmckelvey@...> wrote:

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> Where can I buy MMS.

> Regards

> McKelvey U.K.

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I downloaded part 2 (book). If your interested email my personal email address

and I'll send you a copy.

terry.palmer2@...

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From: candidiasis [mailto:candidiasis ] On

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Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 8:48 AM

candidiasis

Subject: Re: Miracle Mineral Supplement.

Is this safe for children?? Sounds a bit scary and harsh. My 9 yr old

has yeast issues and IBS. I did email Jim Humble through his site

with the very same Q..no response as of yet. Anyone??

Maybe I should buy his book...has anyone read it?

Thanks,

>

> It is suppose to be able to differentiate by ph. All good bacteria

lives at

> an alkaline base level and all bad bacteria lives at an acid level.

> According to Jim Humble. And supposedly the MMS only kills the

pathogens

> (including fungus and parasites) that live at an acid ph level.

>

> It is now pretty much proven that a low ph level in the body is the

cause of

> disease. It is easy to check your ph level by buying ph test paper

and

> testing your urine every morning. It should be between 6.8 and 7.2

to be

> healthy. Below 6 is bad for anyone, and where disease starts to

show up.

> So by killing any bacteria that thrive in the lower ph range, you

are, in

> effect, killing disease.

>

> Jim says that once you reach your highest dose level, and stay

there for

> about 2 weeks to make sure things are all killed off that shouldn't

be there

> :-) then you got on a maintenance dose every day. He thinks

anyone over 40

> should be on the maintenance dose every day due to their immune

system not

> being in the best of shape and he thinks that the MMS somehow

strengthens

> the immune system once everything bad is destroyed. And he says

people

> under 40 can use the maintenance dose at a rate of 3 times a week,

because

> their system is younger and stronger.

>

> Again, many people feel that it is not right to take anything every

day for

> the rest of your life--and they worry about the MMS actually

killing good

> bacteria eventually. So the best compromise is to pulse the MMS--

meaning

> take it for the 3 times per week always, no matter what your age,

or to take

> it one week on and one week off.

>

> Continued use is just to keep anything else from getting hold in

you again.

> But it is possible to take it only when you feel bad--as if you are

coming

> down with a cold or flu. It becomes a personal choice.

>

> Samala,

>

>

> -------Original Message-------

>

> You wouldn't want to take this " all the time " , right? Because of it

> getting rid of the bacteria in your system. You certainly don't

want

> to get rid of the good bacteria, and there is no way for the MMS to

> differentiate, right? And I suppose you would want to also take

> probiotics while you are taking the MMS?

>

>

>

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It is nice if each person, if able, to pay for the book themselves as this

helps Jim's efforts to get MMS into Africa to stop the malaria. If a person

can't afford the $10 for the book you can email Jim and explain it to him

and he will send you a free copy of the ebook.

Samala,

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I downloaded part 2 (book). If your interested email my personal email

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Yes, perfectly safe for kids at the recommended dose--which is 3 drops per

25 pounds of weight. Usually fresh apple juice really covers the taste so

that the kids don't mind the taste/smell. Just remember--no juice with

added C.

I would start your child on just 1 drop though, to see what effects it has,

and if no effects go up in dose SLOWLY--meaning just 1 drop at a time. It

can cause upset stomach or diarrhea--so go slow. Actually, you might want

to stay at a certain dose for a few days before going up. Meaning, instead

of going up by one drop every day--stay at 2 drops for 3 or 4 days to make

sure everything at that level is killed off so that when you go up to 3

drops it won't be so harsh on the body.

If you find that your child is sick feeling on just the one drop, go to a

half drop. Mix up the amount for one drop, but only give him half that

amount.

Good luck.

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Is this safe for children?? Sounds a bit scary and harsh. My 9 yr old

has yeast issues and IBS. I did email Jim Humble through his site

with the very same Q..no response as of yet. Anyone??

Maybe I should buy his book...has anyone read it?

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Hi

I live in South Africa and have just found out about MMS and it seems as if

I could benefit. , you seem to know a lot about the product. Who did

you order it from so that I can see if they will deliver to South Africa. I

have googled to find a local supplier but have not really been able to find

a company locally who supplies. Alternately, do you know whether I can try

and source the Sodium Chlorite and then make MMS myself?

Your assistance would be much appreciated.

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Subject: Re: Re: Miracle Mineral Supplement.

Yes, perfectly safe for kids at the recommended dose--which is 3 drops per

25 pounds of weight. Usually fresh apple juice really covers the taste so

that the kids don't mind the taste/smell. Just remember--no juice with

added C.

I would start your child on just 1 drop though, to see what effects it has,

and if no effects go up in dose SLOWLY--meaning just 1 drop at a time. It

can cause upset stomach or diarrhea--so go slow. Actually, you might want

to stay at a certain dose for a few days before going up. Meaning, instead

of going up by one drop every day--stay at 2 drops for 3 or 4 days to make

sure everything at that level is killed off so that when you go up to 3

drops it won't be so harsh on the body.

If you find that your child is sick feeling on just the one drop, go to a

half drop. Mix up the amount for one drop, but only give him half that

amount.

Good luck.

-------Original Message-------

Is this safe for children?? Sounds a bit scary and harsh. My 9 yr old

has yeast issues and IBS. I did email Jim Humble through his site

with the very same Q..no response as of yet. Anyone??

Maybe I should buy his book...has anyone read it?

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