Guest guest Posted October 16, 2000 Report Share Posted October 16, 2000 here's one for you jim. how does one purge nasty nasty cecum sludge without a colonic. i've heard of the chinese using papaya (seeds and all mixed with hot peppers). nausea, in my experience, is simply when you have bad things lying around in your colon. also another question: how does one eliminate anxiety associated wth worm die off. this is an enormous problem for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2000 Report Share Posted October 16, 2000 Dear patty, I would say that you probably need a further liver cleanse. This time use the epsom salts. Nausea is usually related to the liver. Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh URL: http://www.plasmafire.com email: saul@... " The problems of today cannot be solved using the same thinking that created them " . - Einstein Homozon > Does anyone else get that nausea feeling after taking Homozon? I haven't been taking it very long now, but when I do, I almost feeling like hurling. I am afraid it will only get worse as I go. > > I had a similar feeling when I was taking liquid calcium a few years ago. I quit taking the calcium after listening to my body. I haven't taken calcium since then, but have been considering it, knowing how important it is. > > I also got that feeling after doing a liver cleanse (the Hulda variety, except that I subsituted magnesium citrate for epsom salts.) Now, if I even look at a bottle of magnesium citrate I want to hurl. > > Do you think my body is telling me that I have: > 1) enough minerals and I am overdoing it? Especially magnesium? > > 2) a mineral imbalance that needs to be checked? > > What is the best way to check for mineral levels in the body (without going to a regular MD?) Do naturopath's have a test that is easy and cheap? > Thanks all.... > Patty > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2000 Report Share Posted October 16, 2000 Whenever anyone feels nauseous it means the ileocecal valve has locked shut. The GI tract has a bunch of closing mechanisms along the way, called sphincters. The mouth and the anus are perfect examples. THere is one at the bottom of the stomach, where food moves from the stomach to the duodenum. And another, the ileocecal, between the large & small intestine. Its function is to allow peristalsis to move food from the small to the large intestine, but hopefully not back. WHen it locks open you get diarrhea. When it locks closed you get constipated and feel nauseous. The nausea is because the brain knows the food fermenting in the stomach is not going anywhere, because until the ileocecal opens, the food can't leave the stomach. And, it's still fermenting. Get friendly with a bucket quick. The ileocecal is 1/2 " from the apendix and on the orher side 1/2 " from the ovaries, in a woman. I believe morning sickness is a proximity thing betweent the ovaries & the ileocecal. Resetting the ileocecal should eliminate morning sickness. Anyway, that is the source of the nausea, so don't go off on a metaphysical tangent thinking your body is sending you clear signals. The whole idea that your body knows what to eat or not is predicated on eating SINGLE foods. As soon as one eats a combined food, like bread, the body loses all wisdom with everything! If you were healthy enough to trust your body's evey craving or repulsion you would never have thought to take Homozon in the first place, IMO. jim luckower@... wrote: > > kinesiology is a great way to check anything. but like anything else, nothing > exists in a vacuum. getting the exact right form of magnesium is important. > also taking the right ratio of calcium to magnesium is also important. have > you tried an epsom salt bath. i think you can absorb it through your skin. i > did get that sick feeling from homozon as well. im pretty sure it was just an > intense cleansing reaction. nevertheless it was enough to keep me away from > it. you might be allergic to the particular form of magnesium you are taking. > you might be taking too much. you might be taking the exact correct form and > just having a cleansing response. i have tried magnesium glycinate, cell > mins, KAL dolomite powder, magnesium atp, and liquid magnesium sulfate. the > cell mins did wonders for me. whenever i o.d. on magnesium i just get > diarrhea, never anything more than that. > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2000 Report Share Posted October 16, 2000 Interesting theory Jim, here's another angle; The Price Moms Pay for Healthy Babies ITHACA, NEW YORK- Since the 1970s, there have been theories that morning sickness is a protective mechanism that keeps women from ingesting foods that can cause fetal injury or abortion. A closer look at the data now supports these theories. Researchers have found that women who experience morning sickness are less likely to miscarry than those who do not, and those who vomit suffer even fewer miscarriages than those who experience nausea alone. Morning sickness occurs most frequently during the first trimester, when the fetus is most susceptible to the effects of chemicals and various microorganisms. This nausea causes the greatest aversion to meats, fish, poultry, and eggs. Not surprisingly, these are the foods the most susceptible to spoilage and parasitic infestation. (Q Rev BioI 00;75(2):1 1 3-48) P.M. Re: Homozon <SNIP> > The ileocecal is 1/2 " from the apendix and on the orher side 1/2 " from > the ovaries, in a woman. I believe morning sickness is a proximity thing > betweent the ovaries & the ileocecal. Resetting the ileocecal should > eliminate morning sickness. > > jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2000 Report Share Posted October 17, 2000 luckower@... wrote: > > here's one for you jim. how does one purge nasty nasty cecum sludge without a > colonic. Try Homozon. Do it til you are doing big doses. Do it until until you don't have to wonder where a toilet is before you take it. ;-) > nausea, in my experience, is simply when you have bad things lying around in > your colon. I explained what nausea is. You are describing something that can trigger the mechanism I described. The ileocecal going out of whack is usually triggered by the kidney or gall bladder, but regardless the reason, the ileocecal valve locking closed is necessary to make one nauseous, and resetting it releives the nausea. And, to forestall questions on how to reset it, one needs to be taught in person. Period. also another question: how does one eliminate anxiety associated > wth worm die off. this is an enormous problem for me. I deal with anxiety be telling myself to ignore it, listening to music, watching TV or some other distraction. I am not being flippant. jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2000 Report Share Posted October 17, 2000 In Mexico women get a chunk of pure magnesium & suck on it when they experience morning sickness. It works like a charm. About equivalent to rinsing your mouth out with milk of magnesia. I wonder now if magnesium deficiency plays a role. jim Marino wrote: > > Interesting theory Jim, here's another angle; > > The Price Moms Pay for Healthy Babies > ITHACA, NEW YORK- > > Since the 1970s, there have been theories that morning sickness is a > protective mechanism that keeps women from ingesting foods that can cause > fetal injury or abortion. A closer look at the data now supports these > theories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2000 Report Share Posted October 19, 2000 costs $40 for 5 ounces in my. shasta, ca. any better prices? Dennis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2000 Report Share Posted October 19, 2000 www.azurefarm.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2000 Report Share Posted October 19, 2000 Dennis, You can get it for $26 mail order from Azure standard. Someone else will have to post their phone number, as I haven't installed a word processor on my new PC, and that is where I keep such info. jim superflous1@... wrote: > > costs $40 for 5 ounces in my. shasta, ca. > any better prices? > > Dennis > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2000 Report Share Posted October 19, 2000 Dear Dennis, I have Azure Standard at 541-467-2230. Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh URL: http://www.plasmafire.com email: saul@... " The problems of today cannot be solved using the same thinking that created them " . - Einstein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2000 Report Share Posted October 19, 2000 is there a make-it-yorself at home type of homozon? Dennis ===== Not hardly :-) Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2000 Report Share Posted October 20, 2000 Should homozon be taken in distilled water or is spring water okay? Scot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2000 Report Share Posted October 21, 2000 Scot, Distilled water only. Ozone can react with metals in spring water, possible making a compound you wouldn't want. And, you don't know what the metals in your water are, so you can't guess the possibilities. jim scotd1@... wrote: > > Should homozon be taken in distilled water or is spring water okay? > Scot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2000 Report Share Posted December 7, 2000 So where does one get homozon and is it MLM? << Dr.Eugene Blass the person that brought homozon into America in 1930 used homozon >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2000 Report Share Posted December 19, 2000 Actually Christel, this is the normal outcome from what I've heard. I think it eases off though. wes > I have a question on Homozon. Need feedback from anyone who used it, PLEASE. > I started to use it 10 days ago and I can't handle the watery outcome > anymore. All day and night to the point I barely make it to the bathroom. > Surely that is not normal. > Any feedback is greatly appreciated. > Thank you, > Christel =^ ) w/peace wes bennett wesbenn@... <A HREF= " http://www.ascent.net/wesbenn/welcome.htm " >wes bennett photography / digital imaging</A> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2000 Report Share Posted December 19, 2000 Why not try MSO from www.magnetizer.com ? In addition, drink negatively - magnetized water. Reduces urination because of better utilization of water in the cells. Ronen. Re: Re: homozon > Actually Christel, this is the normal outcome from what I've heard. I think > it eases off though. > wes > > > I have a question on Homozon. Need feedback from anyone who used it, PLEASE. > > I started to use it 10 days ago and I can't handle the watery outcome > > anymore. All day and night to the point I barely make it to the bathroom. > > Surely that is not normal. > > Any feedback is greatly appreciated. > > Thank you, > > Christel > > > =^ ) > w/peace > wes bennett > wesbenn@... > <A HREF= " http://www.ascent.net/wesbenn/welcome.htm " >wes bennett photography / > digital imaging</A> > > > > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2000 Report Share Posted December 19, 2000 In a message dated 12/19/2000 7:04:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, green1@... writes: << one or two TEAspoons daily of the stuff to be more manageable. On that dosage I was having one or two loose bowel movements daily. >> Thanks very much for your response, that is what I am taking, 2 teaspoons twice a day. excreting nothing but water. Right now I am not taking any, can't handle it any more. Christel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted December 19, 2000 Report Share Posted December 19, 2000 In a message dated 12/19/2000 7:05:01 PM Central Standard Time, green1@... writes: << Dear Ronen, The " watery outcome " that Christel's talking about isn't urine ;-)) Christel, the runny stool comes with the territory. I experienced something like what you're talking about on a dosage of 2 tablespoons of Homozon per day, but found one or two TEAspoons daily of the stuff to be more manageable. On that dosage I was having one or two loose bowel movements daily. >> ____________ I have gotten this about 5 times. Is it me or the list that has a problem? Edith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2000 Report Share Posted December 19, 2000 In a message dated 12/19/2000 8:32:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, ejohns9525@... writes: << I have gotten this about 5 times. Is it me or the list that has a problem? Edith >> Edith, it must be the list. I have received it 5times too, Christel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2000 Report Share Posted December 19, 2000 In a message dated 12/19/2000 7:04:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, green1@... writes: << one or two TEAspoons daily of the stuff to be more manageable. On that dosage I was having one or two loose bowel movements daily. >> Thanks very much for your response, that is what I am taking, 2 teaspoons twice a day. excreting nothing but water. Right now I am not taking any, can't handle it any more. Christel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2000 Report Share Posted December 19, 2000 Dear Ronen, The " watery outcome " that Christel's talking about isn't urine ;-)) Christel, the runny stool comes with the territory. I experienced something like what you're talking about on a dosage of 2 tablespoons of Homozon per day, but found one or two TEAspoons daily of the stuff to be more manageable. On that dosage I was having one or two loose bowel movements daily. I'd reduce the dose to what I could manage, and time it to maximize my convenience. At the same time, I'd realize that the benefits of Homozon use are directly proportional to the amount taken, and that there's a world of difference between the teaspoon level and the tablespoon level of detox action. I've heard it said that the laxative effect diminishes as one's colon gets cleaned of accumulated " plaque, " and I know the Blass literature promotes that idea, but that hasn't been my experience in several months of regular Homozon use, or what I've observed in others. Can anyone on-list report reduction of the laxative effect over time from their own experience? My main problem with Homozon has always been getting it down. Just THINKING about it makes me gag. Green ~^~^~^~^ Ronen wrote: Why not try MSO from www.magnetizer.com ? In addition, drink negatively - magnetized water. Reduces urination because of better utilization of water in the cells. Ronen. Re: Re: homozon > Actually Christel, this is the normal outcome from what I've heard. I think > it eases off though. > wes > > > I have a question on Homozon. Need feedback from anyone who used it, PLEASE. > > I started to use it 10 days ago and I can't handle the watery outcome > > anymore. All day and night to the point I barely make it to the bathroom. > > Surely that is not normal. > > Any feedback is greatly appreciated. > > Thank you, > > Christel > > > =^ ) > w/peace > wes bennett > wesbenn@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2000 Report Share Posted December 19, 2000 Dear Ronen, The " watery outcome " that Christel's talking about isn't urine ;-)) Christel, the runny stool comes with the territory. I experienced something like what you're talking about on a dosage of 2 tablespoons of Homozon per day, but found one or two TEAspoons daily of the stuff to be more manageable. On that dosage I was having one or two loose bowel movements daily. I'd reduce the dose to what I could manage, and time it to maximize my convenience. At the same time, I'd realize that the benefits of Homozon use are directly proportional to the amount taken, and that there's a world of difference between the teaspoon level and the tablespoon level of detox action. I've heard it said that the laxative effect diminishes as one's colon gets cleaned of accumulated " plaque, " and I know the Blass literature promotes that idea, but that hasn't been my experience in several months of regular Homozon use, or what I've observed in others. Can anyone on-list report reduction of the laxative effect over time from their own experience? My main problem with Homozon has always been getting it down. Just THINKING about it makes me gag. Green ~^~^~^~^ Ronen wrote: Why not try MSO from www.magnetizer.com ? In addition, drink negatively - magnetized water. Reduces urination because of better utilization of water in the cells. Ronen. Re: Re: homozon > Actually Christel, this is the normal outcome from what I've heard. I think > it eases off though. > wes > > > I have a question on Homozon. Need feedback from anyone who used it, PLEASE. > > I started to use it 10 days ago and I can't handle the watery outcome > > anymore. All day and night to the point I barely make it to the bathroom. > > Surely that is not normal. > > Any feedback is greatly appreciated. > > Thank you, > > Christel > > > =^ ) > w/peace > wes bennett > wesbenn@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2000 Report Share Posted December 19, 2000 Dear Ronen, The " watery outcome " that Christel's talking about isn't urine ;-)) Christel, the runny stool comes with the territory. I experienced something like what you're talking about on a dosage of 2 tablespoons of Homozon per day, but found one or two TEAspoons daily of the stuff to be more manageable. On that dosage I was having one or two loose bowel movements daily. I'd reduce the dose to what I could manage, and time it to maximize my convenience. At the same time, I'd realize that the benefits of Homozon use are directly proportional to the amount taken, and that there's a world of difference between the teaspoon level and the tablespoon level of detox action. I've heard it said that the laxative effect diminishes as one's colon gets cleaned of accumulated " plaque, " and I know the Blass literature promotes that idea, but that hasn't been my experience in several months of regular Homozon use, or what I've observed in others. Can anyone on-list report reduction of the laxative effect over time from their own experience? My main problem with Homozon has always been getting it down. Just THINKING about it makes me gag. Green ~^~^~^~^ Ronen wrote: Why not try MSO from www.magnetizer.com ? In addition, drink negatively - magnetized water. Reduces urination because of better utilization of water in the cells. Ronen. Re: Re: homozon > Actually Christel, this is the normal outcome from what I've heard. I think > it eases off though. > wes > > > I have a question on Homozon. Need feedback from anyone who used it, PLEASE. > > I started to use it 10 days ago and I can't handle the watery outcome > > anymore. All day and night to the point I barely make it to the bathroom. > > Surely that is not normal. > > Any feedback is greatly appreciated. > > Thank you, > > Christel > > > =^ ) > w/peace > wes bennett > wesbenn@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2000 Report Share Posted December 19, 2000 Dear Ronen, The " watery outcome " that Christel's talking about isn't urine ;-)) Christel, the runny stool comes with the territory. I experienced something like what you're talking about on a dosage of 2 tablespoons of Homozon per day, but found one or two TEAspoons daily of the stuff to be more manageable. On that dosage I was having one or two loose bowel movements daily. I'd reduce the dose to what I could manage, and time it to maximize my convenience. At the same time, I'd realize that the benefits of Homozon use are directly proportional to the amount taken, and that there's a world of difference between the teaspoon level and the tablespoon level of detox action. I've heard it said that the laxative effect diminishes as one's colon gets cleaned of accumulated " plaque, " and I know the Blass literature promotes that idea, but that hasn't been my experience in several months of regular Homozon use, or what I've observed in others. Can anyone on-list report reduction of the laxative effect over time from their own experience? My main problem with Homozon has always been getting it down. Just THINKING about it makes me gag. Green ~^~^~^~^ Ronen wrote: Why not try MSO from www.magnetizer.com ? In addition, drink negatively - magnetized water. Reduces urination because of better utilization of water in the cells. Ronen. Re: Re: homozon > Actually Christel, this is the normal outcome from what I've heard. I think > it eases off though. > wes > > > I have a question on Homozon. Need feedback from anyone who used it, PLEASE. > > I started to use it 10 days ago and I can't handle the watery outcome > > anymore. All day and night to the point I barely make it to the bathroom. > > Surely that is not normal. > > Any feedback is greatly appreciated. > > Thank you, > > Christel > > > =^ ) > w/peace > wes bennett > wesbenn@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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