Re: Herbal Medicine - Phytotherapy

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Who said herbs were for vitamins and minerals??? I would like to see or hear from someone who has had say cancer or a tumor or whatever cured by rest and fasting and raw food only.

I believe in raw food, organic food and fasting but I also believe in herbs... Why would nature put them here if not for our use.... heck there are some fruits that are poisonous...

Sorry Don, I'm just not buying into this totally, but I still love ya!!!

SuziDon Quai <mysticalherbalist@...> wrote:

Herbal Medicine — Phytotherapy I frequently find the herbal practice designated a "Nature Cure method." That herbs, all of them, the nonpoisonous as well as the poisonous ones, are natural is true. But they are no more natural than mercury and arsenic. All that is, is natural. The bite of a rattlesnake or the sting of the nettle are both natural. The venom of the cobra is as natural as the opium of the poppy. A stroke of lightning is as natural as the digitalis of foxglove. The eruption of a volcano with its poisonous gases, is as natural as the prussic acid of the bitter almond. The cyclone and tidal wave are as natural as the nicotine of tobacco. That a thing is natural does not mean that it has any normal relationship to the living organism. It does not

belong in the human body merely because it is natural. The various molds from which the antibiotics are derived are as natural as any herb that grows. It is objected that the medical man does not use the whole herb, but extracts of the herb, I reply that the herbalist uses teas, infusions, extracted juices, and in other ways, employs, not the whole herb, but extracts of it. But I deny that his use of the whole herb is any more rational than his use of infusions and juices made from the herb.One could easily get the idea, after listening to the fulsome eulogy lavished upon aloe by certain of the herbalists, that, this plant is some kind of king or queen of the plant world and a real wonder drug among the medicinal herbs. A genus of plants of the lily family, of which there are several species, the dried juices of the leaves of several of these species provides the herbalist and the physician with a laxative. An aloetic is defined as "a medicine containing aloes." Time was,

and this was in the not distant past, when aloetic pills were very popular and were prescribed by physicians in a variety of so-called diseases. It is difficult to understand why so much praise is lavished on this "laxative" herb. Any other laxative would do as much mischief, indeed, some of the more poisonous herbs are purgatives and drastics.Some of the self-styled "natural therapists" never tire of extolling the virtues of the simple "home remedies," by which they mean herbs, that were employed in the past, and which they tell us were "harmless." The so-called "medicinal" herbs were not harmless. Many of them, on the contrary, can be deadly, as deadly as any drug the physicians now use. None of them removed the cause of the patient's trouble; all * of them were directed at the suppression of symptoms; all of them gave rise to evils of their own. The herbal practice was the original drugging practice and only those drugs were used that occasioned marked defensive actions

on the part of the body. They were given to produce vomiting, purging, diuresis, diaphoresis and expectoration, to reduce fever, relieve pain, allay coughing, to produce blistering, as sedatives, stimulants, narcotics, etc., etc. They are still employed for the same purposes, despite all the loose talk about their alleged richness in minerals and vitamins. Few of them have ever been analyzed to determine their mineral and vitamin content. That they are possessed of these food factors, as all plants are, is not denied; that they are superior sources of such nutrients has not been proved. Certainly a drug that induces vomiting and one that occasions purging does not yield up any minerals and vitamins to the sick organism.The sick organism is suffering from poisoning, not from deficiency. Deficiencies do exist, but the so-called deficiency diseases are not numerous. The acutely sick patient is as unable to digest and assimilate medicinal herbs as he is to digest and assimilate

the nonpoisonous herbs. The presence of poisons in herbs renders their digestion all but impossible. Imagine trying to digest a salad of fresh green tobacco leaves!

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Ah, my best friend quit her job, gave up all processed foods, the 5 whites, ALL her Shaklee vitamins and went to raw fruits, vegetables and lots of fresh carrot/kale juice when she was diagnosed with stage 4 breast cancer. Oh and she rented a lot of comedies and laughed a lot.

She is 9 years cancer free, will be 10 in October. AND her husband was a pharmaceutical salesman!!

I can give you her address, if you'd like more proof. Carol G knows her too.

Shari

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thank you Shari....what was her diet etc like prior to being diagnosed... and what was the dr's prognosis?SV <shavig@...> wrote:

Ah, my best friend quit her job, gave up all processed foods, the 5 whites, ALL her Shaklee vitamins and went to raw fruits, vegetables and lots of fresh carrot/kale juice when she was diagnosed with stage 4 breast cancer. Oh and she rented a lot of comedies and laughed a lot.

She is 9 years cancer free, will be 10 in October. AND her husband was a pharmaceutical salesman!!

I can give you her address, if you'd like more proof. Carol G knows her too.

Suzi

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Well, the doctor's wanted to do chemo and radiation and at stage 4 I'm sure the prognosis was not good. We've never discussed that part of the situation.

She ate straight SAD. She carries a picture of herself and she looked like Jaba the Hut with a Dad's rootbeer in her hand. All that was missing was a cigarette! She lost about 80 pounds and looks wonderful. She's full of life and goes at top speed all the time spreading the word of the Lord and that you too can heal yourself with food.

Shari

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Subject: Re: Herbal Medicine - Phytotherapy

thank you Shari....what was her diet etc like prior to being diagnosed... and what was the dr's prognosis?SV <shavig@...> wrote:

Ah, my best friend quit her job, gave up all processed foods, the 5 whites, ALL her Shaklee vitamins and went to raw fruits, vegetables and lots of fresh carrot/kale juice when she was diagnosed with stage 4 breast cancer. Oh and she rented a lot of comedies and laughed a lot.

She is 9 years cancer free, will be 10 in October. AND her husband was a pharmaceutical salesman!!

I can give you her address, if you'd like more proof. Carol G knows her too.

Suzi

What is a weed? A plant whose virtues have not yet been discovered.

www.onegrp.com/?mamanott organic cosmetics

http://suziesgoats.wholefoodfarmacy.com/

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Suzanne wrote:

> Who said herbs were for vitamins and minerals??? I would like to see

> or hear from someone who has had say cancer or a tumor or whatever

> cured by rest and fasting and raw food only.

> I believe in raw food, organic food and fasting but I also believe in

> herbs... Why would nature put them here if not for our use.... heck

> there are some fruits that are poisonous...

> Sorry Don, I'm just not buying into this totally, but I still love ya!!!

> Suzi

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HI Suzi,

You don't have to buy into it. I have mentioned more than enough times

that it is all choice. Take what you find that works for you and leave

the rest go. I post this for knowledge and educational purposes. Not

everyone learns the same thing from the same teacher. No I am not saying

I am the teacher here either. You gotta take what resonates with you for

that is what is meant to be with you.

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Peace be with you, Suzi.

Don " Quai " Eitner

" Spirit sleeps in the mineral, breathes in the vegetable, dreams in the animal

and wakes in man. "

Nearly all men die of their remedies, and not of their illnesses. ~Jean

Baptiste Molière, Le Malade Imaginaire

The obstacle is the path. ~Zen Proverb

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Just wondered as I (myself) believe they go hand in hand... at least I know in my life faith, divine intervention or whatever one chooses to call it... plays a big part in my healing coupled with herbs, foods, fasting, etc..

Suzi

SV <shavig@...> wrote:

Very religious, but not preachy.

Shari

Suzi

What is a weed? A plant whose virtues have not yet been discovered.

www.onegrp.com/?mamanott organic cosmetics

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Well, the doctor's wanted to do chemo and

radiation and at stage 4 I'm sure the prognosis was not good. We've

never discussed that part of the situation.

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looked like Jaba the Hut with a Dad's rootbeer in her hand. All that

was missing was a cigarette! She lost about 80 pounds and looks

wonderful. She's full of life and goes at top speed all the time

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Laughter is supposed to be a big part of the equation,too.

I think it's said so often that the comedians are using it.

Is that some sort of Catch-22 situation?! Hmmmm.

Triumph the Dog, sang it in a song.

Nice to hear of a cancer success story.

Kit

Well, the doctor's wanted to do chemo and

radiation and at stage 4 I'm sure the prognosis was not good. We've

never discussed that part of the situation.

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> She ate straight SAD. She carries a picture of herself and she

looked like Jaba the Hut with a Dad's rootbeer in her hand. All that

was missing was a cigarette! She lost about 80 pounds and looks

wonderful. She's full of life and goes at top speed all the time

spreading the word of the Lord and that you too can heal yourself with

food.

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In all honesty, I am a FIRM believer in the healing power of laughter. As you probably noticed.

Peace, love, laughter

kitcurtin <kitcurtin@...> wrote:

Laughter is supposed to be a big part of the equation,too.

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And, we are glad that you do.....Guido!

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