natural gallstone remedies

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Alternative to gallbladder surgery

An alternative to surgery and gallstone removal by chemical dissolution is gallbladder flush. Traditional European folk remedy recommends the use of olive oil and lemon juice to flush the gallstones. A major concern is that if the stones are too big, they may not easily come out or may even get stuck on the way out. Traditional Chinese medicine recommends the use of "Gold Coin Grass (GCG)" (botanical name: Herba Lysimachiae, Chinese sound translation: Chin-chien Tsao) to crush and soften the stones so that they will come out slowly. This tends to take a relatively long time. However, centuries of experience has shown that Gold Coin Grass (GCG) can be taken safely without side effects. In most cases, alleviation of gallbladder pain is experienced within a few days of using Gold Coin Grass (GCG) in tincture form. This is a significant benefit. I have found from my own experience and that of many of my clients that a combination of the following

steps to be the most effective and efficient.

Gallbladder cleansing and flushing procedures

Step 1: Use "Gold Coin Grass (GCG)" to crush and soften the gallstones.

"Gold Coin Grass (GCG)" in tincture form, using alcohol as a carrier, has been found to be more effective than tablet or tea form, presumably because alcohol as a solvent facilitates the assimilation of the herbs. It is recommended that one to two 250 ml bottles of Gold Coin Grass (GCG) tincture (for ordering information please click Prime Health Products, Tel: 416-248-2930) be used before attempting gallbladder flushing described below. One tablespoonful is taken every day; therefore each bottle should take 2 to 3 weeks to finish. Two bottles of Gold Coin Grass (GCG) may be necessary for individuals over the age of 50 or who have gallbladder problems for many years. For some people who are ex-heavy drinkers, a burning sensation may sometimes be experienced when using Gold Coin Grass (GCG) tincture but this does not seem to affect the efficacy of the herb. Because the amount of alcohol

contained in a tablespoonful is very small, this should not present a problem even for ex-drinkers. Having problems sleeping or constipation is usually a sign of liver congestion. Coptis which stimulates bile flow and Curcuma which increases energy flow in the liver and gallbladder are recommended to be taken in conjunction with GCG to increase the efficiency of flushing. Alternatively, if gallbladder-related pain is not a concern, Chinese Bitters may be taken prior to GCG in order to decongest the liver.

Step 2: Intestinal Cleansing

Soak 1 teaspoon to 1 tablespoon of Bentonite clay in 1 cup of filtered water for 12 hours. Start soaking in the morning.

Then add ½ to 1 tablespoon of psyllium husks or plantago seeds to the clay mixture and mix well.

Drink and eat the whole cup of mixture immediately and then followed by 1 cup of warm water before bedtime.

Drink at least 8 cups of warm water a day including 2 cups first thing in the morning.

Repeat the procedure until the stool becomes normal (usually 1 to 2 weeks), when no more intestinal cloggings are coming out.

Please note that intestinal cleansing is not necessary if you have never had constipation problems.

Step 3: Gallbladder Flush

The following procedure is based on: "Natural Liver Therapy" by Hobbs, L. Ac., Botanica Press, Capitola, CA (1993).

Eat only whole foods (un-refined foods) without fat for a whole day.

About an hour before bedtime, drink ¼-cup of extra virgin cold pressed olive oil mixed with ¼-cup of freshly squeezed lemon juice (from one lemon). Repeat this process every 15 minutes until a total of 1 cup each of olive oil and lemon juice is finished. An alternative to this procedure is to replace lemon juice with freshly-squeezed grapefruit juice. A ¼ to ½ cup of grapefruit juice can be used each time. A total of one to one and a half cups of grapefruit juice is required. It works well and tastes better than lemon juice.

Go to bed immediately and lie on your right side.

The next morning take 1 litre (approximately 4 cups) of warm distilled or filtered water containing two level teaspoons of un-iodized sea salt. Alternatively the addition of juice from half a lemon may be used in place of the sea salt.

Eat only softly cooked vegetables and broth the second day. The gallstones should come out some time during the second day.

The stones that come out are usually dark green or black in colour. They may also be brown, green or, rarely, red in colour. Stones crushed by Gold Coin Grass (GCG) may come out in any shape including flat pieces or sand.

Step 3a: Liver Cleanse and Gallbladder Flush (Alternative Procedure)

An alternative procedure to Step 3 above combines gallbladder flush with liver flush. It uses apple juice fasting, as described below (based on "Herbally Yours", by Penny C. Royal, Sound Nutrition, Utah, 1982). I would like to caution that people with cancer, candida yeast infection, diabetes, hypoglycemia or stomach ulcer should not use this apple juice fasting procedure.

Day 1:

Take 2 cups of 8 oz organic apple juice or apple cider every 2 hours from 8 am to 8 pm. Altogether 14 cups will have been taken during this period. Do not take any other food or drinks except plain water.

Please note that the apple juice should not be taken cold from the refrigerator. It should be kept at room temperature or mixed with about 10% hot water before use because cold drinks chill the liver. For people with lots of stagnant bile, the collapsed stagnant bile may rush out after drinking apple juice. It may feel like having diarrhea but is actually stagnant bile (brownish yellow colour).

Day 2:

Repeat Day 1

At 8:30 pm, take ½-cup (4 oz) of olive oil (extra virgin cold pressed) mixed with ½-cup of lemon juice (squeezed from 3 lemons) or with ½ to ¾-cup of freshly-squeezed grapefruit juice.

Go immediately to bed and sleep on your right side. If there is a large amount of stones, nausea may be felt after drinking olive oil but this feeling will largely disappear on the third day after taking some food.

Day 3:

Upon rising in the morning, take 1 litre (approximately 4 cups) of warm distilled or filtered water containing two level teaspoons of un-iodized sea salt. Alternatively the addition of juice from half a lemon may be used in place of the sea salt. Wait for at least half an hour before eating.

Take vegetable broth and softly cooked vegetables only. The stones should be passed in the stool any time between midnight of Day 2 and morning of Day 4.

Note: The purpose of drinking apple juice is mainly for the malic acid in apple juice. Malic acid is a good solvent for stagnant bile in the liver. Apple juice taken during fasting would dissolve and push out stagnant bile in the liver. For someone with yeast infection, apple juice can be replaced by malic acid in capsule or powder form. The fasting procedure is the same except that apple juice is replaced by 1000 - 2000 mg of malic acid taken with 2 cups of warm water.

Guide to using flushing procedures

When gallstones exist, the gallbladder cannot contract efficiently. Therefore only stones in the front area of the gallbladder can be pushed out in the first flush. Then stones from the back area would slowly move forward and may cause problems again. The whole process should be repeated, including the use of GCG prior to the flush. It usually takes at least 3-4 flushes to clean out all the stones. Basically the flush should be repeated until hardly any stone comes out even though you have a good flush. The weaker your gallbladder is in contraction, the more flushes you will need in order to push out all of your stones.

A good flush means that all the loose stones are out. You feel good for at least a few days. The remaining stones are packed ones. They should be allowed some time to loosen up and get ready to come out. The interval between good flushes should be 1-2 months. Repeating the flush too soon after a good flush may waste your effort because the packed stones are not ready to come out yet. However, you can repeat the flush any time if you have an incomplete flush which means that loose stones are still somewhere and you never felt comfortable after the flush.

Once stones have been formed, the gallbladder tends to be sluggish. New stones may be formed again. Therefore 1 to 2 flushes a year is recommended for maintenance. Gold Coin Grass (GCG) may not be needed any more because new stones should be small and pass easily. I have been doing maintenance for years; usually around 10 to 15 small stones come out each time I do it. Chinese Bitters is the only product that I take now for maintenance, in addition to 1-2 flushes a year. I take these preventive measures because I am naturally prone to liver congestion.

There may be a need to De-congest the Liver

If the gallbladder is loaded with stones, there is very limited space in the gallbladder to store the bile. The bile, which is produced in the liver, stays in the liver and leads to liver congestion. When the liver is very congested, nutrients or herbs, which have to go through the liver first, may not reach the gallbladder. This explains why some people with very congested liver cannot flush out their stones unless they decongest their liver first. Another problem is that bile produced in the liver, through olive oil stimulation, has to flow down to the gallbladder in order to push out stones with the help of gallbladder contraction by lemon or grapefruit juice. If the liver is congested, bile flow is restricted. As a result, there is insufficient bile in the gallbladder to push the stones out.

One of our products, Chinese Bitters (available exclusively from Prime Health Products, Tel: 416-248-2930), has been found to be very effective in decongesting the liver. It is possible to take Chinese Bitters in conjunction with Gold Coin Grass (GCG) and some people do this in order to more quickly prepare for a liver/gallbladder flush. However, the added load of taking both tinctures at once may be too much strain for the liver and gallbladder in some people, particularly those who suffer from weak livers or gallbladders. If this is the case for you, then you should start with Chinese Bitters first. After a few weeks of liver decongestion, you can switch from Chinese Bitters in the morning to Gold Coin Grass.

When the Gold Coin Grass is finished, Chinese Bitters may be taken again for a few days before the flush. During the flush, Chinese Bitters can still be taken to ensure that the liver is not congested.

The use of Epsom Salt

If the gallstones are so packed that they have difficulty moving, epsom salt, which dilates the bile duct, may be helpful. This usually happens to someone who is doing the first flush. Nothing may come out at all. In this situation, you may have to repeat the olive oil/lemon juice procedure and eat one more day of vegetables. However, epsom salt solution, prepared by dissolving 3 teaspoons of epsom salt (magnesium sulfate) in 1 cup of warm water, should be taken about one-and-a-half to two hours before repeating the olive oil and lemon juice procedure.

If a stone gets stuck on its way out

It does happen, although very rarely, that a stone may get stuck on its way out. In this situation, the olive oil/lemon juice flush may be repeated. Three teaspoonfuls of epsom salt in a cup of warm water should be taken 2 hours before the olive oil/lemon juice to dilate the duct. An alternative is 1 tablespoonful each of Coptis and Curcuma taken together. This combination helps to move the stone by stimulating bile flow (Coptis) and increasing energy flow (Curcuma). It also helps to relieve pain from gallbladder attack in most cases. Furthermore, if no stone comes out during the flush the day after taking olive oil/lemon juice and you feel uncomfortable, one tablespoon each of Coptis and Curcuma can usually help to push out the stones or other blockages.

If one tablespoon each of Coptis and Curcuma fail to push out the lodged stone and relieve pain, it is usually due to stone too big to be pushed out. In this situation, some people have found the following procedure to be helpful: take 2 tablespoons of GCG to crush the stone and wait for 1½ to 2 hours before taking 1 tablespoon each of Coptis and Curcuma again. The crushed stones appear to move easier and the pain is relieved.

A stuck stone during the flush is different from a regular gallbladder attack. During the flush, a lot of bile is produced which serves as an excellent lubricant. The pain produced is relatively dull and mild in comparison with the very sharp pain experienced in a regular gallbladder attack.

Suzi: wrote

I notice a lot of advice against oils for gallbaldder problems, which I understand. But the flush is with olive oil. Is olive oil okay during gallbladder attacks? Or is it only for the flush?

Loving this thread! Learning lots. Thanks all of you, and my heart goes out to all of you fellow sufferers!!!

Peace, love, laughter

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I sent some advice on using two tablespoons of Flax oil on your food

I think for 3 weeks...you might want to go thru the first load of

emails.

Also, that problems were caused by excess sugar....probably refined

carbs as well. Maybe the fats and oils ideas are based on the fact

that you now have a non/malfunctioning organ that handles fats and

oils, best to stay away from them so as to not tax the GB.

Theorizing,

Kit

> Yup, that's what you do! Many rawfood enthusiasts just pick up a head

> of lettuces or whatever veggie and eat it! You could concoct a dip if

> you need to.

> No heated oils w/ gall bladder problems.

> Sue

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Oh yeah...and that besides the sugar issue...GB problems were from

insufficient EFA's in ones diet which are oils. Geee, getting your

EFA's handles a slew of health problems.

Kit

- In health ,

<deuteronomy2929@y...> wrote:

> I notice a lot of advice against oils for gallbaldder problems,

which I understand. But the flush is with olive oil. Is olive oil okay

during gallbladder attacks? Or is it only for the flush?

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> Loving this thread! Learning lots. Thanks all of you, and my heart

goes out to all of you fellow sufferers!!!

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> Peace, love, laughter

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> astrosue@o... wrote:

> Yup, that's what you do! Many rawfood enthusiasts just pick up a head

> of lettuces or whatever veggie and eat it! You could concoct a dip if

> you need to.

> No heated oils w/ gall bladder problems.

> Sue

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Thanks, Sue,

I did read about the apples. Sounds worth a try.

Fundoplasty is when the dr's take a piece of muscle tissue at the base of the esophagus above the stomach and wrap it around the base like an extra sphincter. I had uncontrollable vomiting and nothing helped. Now, I no longer can vomit, or burp either. Once it gets into my stomach, there is only one way out. Imagine all the air we take in daily, swallowing and eating. Oooh boy, I am a one man band sometimes!!

Peace, love, laughter

astrosue@... wrote:

So sorry to hear about such unpleasantry and glad you feel better!Do you know what you might have eaten inadvertantly to cause this to happen?Previous emails note apple juice/applesauce flushes for healing. Atrustworthydoctor once told me that eventually most people who suffer end up having thegall bladder removed (sorry to say this). That is what happened to me after20years of coping w/ a touchy gall bladder. Note that in previous posts,heart attacksand pancreatitis have been linked to gall bladder problems; and maybe we canfindout more about these.And what is fundoplasty surgery???? Could this be linked to the incident?Sue=====================I am looking forward to this discussion thread, as about 10 days ago I wasin the emergency room with extreme abdominal pain. I was on the kitchenfloor retching and

writhing. I cannot throw up because of the fundoplastysurgery about 3 years ago. Marilyn and I had been fighting, as people do,and she had no mercy. I took myself to the ER, and they said that my gallbladder was extremely swollen. Had a sonagram, which support it. No stonesto speak of, just granules, like sand. I did the flush two nights in a row.The first night was misery. Severe nausea and increased diahrea. Secondnight was fine. No negative results. And the pain is almost all gone. Stilltender, still visibly swolen. Most of you know my diet. Veggei. No dairy, noeggs, no meats (aaargh!!!). No cooked foods. It has been suggested to havethe thing taken out, but I figure our Creator put it there for a reason, andwho am I to second guess Him???Anyway, I am looking forward to a lively informative discussion!Peace, love, laughter-- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users.It has removed

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Thanks, Kit,

I went 4 days without solids, felt like H$%#. I mostly drank fresh juiced citrus, orange/lemon/grapefruit since that is what I had. I also had carrot/celery. Is that okay?

I completely forgot about castor oil packs! What a shmoe!! I'll start that right away.

The water and lemon I can do, pretty much do it anyway. I use a straw as it makes my teeth feel rough, and I hear that it is bad for the enamel.

Thanks again for the info!

Peace, love, laughter

kitcurtin <kitcurtin@...> wrote:

, Sorry to hear this....be careful with inflammation...treat itimmediately.

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Are you still in pain?

I think not eating solids is the main ....the juices mentioned are

preferable...but your in-house stuff works.

Lemon is bad for the enamel....using a straw is good.

Kit

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> Sorry to hear this....be careful with inflammation...treat it

> immediately.

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I am enjoying reading the uplifting messages at this group. I have days

where I'm starting to feel better (after my gallbladder attack 2 weeks

ago), and sometimes my stomach is tight. I don't know if this is due to

the herabl medicine I'm on, changing my eating habits, or

present/previous upset from the gallbladder. I'm still determined to

keep my gallbladder as long as it doesn't reach a stage where it is

really medically necessary to remove it. I have an appointment with my

DOM next week to continue with follow up care. Is there anything else I

can do to soothe my stomach? Is there a point where you just know you

need to go to an allopathic doctor for another evaluation? How long

should it take to feel better?

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> THis comes from www.sensiblehealth.com

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> Alternative to gallbladder surgery

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Go on a Gallbladder cleanse.

-- In health , " trobertabq "

<TrobertABQ@a...> wrote:

> I am enjoying reading the uplifting messages at this group. I have

days

> where I'm starting to feel better (after my gallbladder attack 2

weeks

> ago), and sometimes my stomach is tight. I don't know if this is

due to

> the herabl medicine I'm on, changing my eating habits, or

> present/previous upset from the gallbladder. I'm still determined

to

> keep my gallbladder as long as it doesn't reach a stage where it

is

> really medically necessary to remove it. I have an appointment

with my

> DOM next week to continue with follow up care. Is there anything

else I

> can do to soothe my stomach? Is there a point where you just know

you

> need to go to an allopathic doctor for another evaluation? How

long

> should it take to feel better?

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> > THis comes from www.sensiblehealth.com

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> > Alternative to gallbladder surgery

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> > Start your day with - make it your home page

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But with all your treatment it continues to go down and not return,

right? Did you read the thing about a tablespoon of apple cider in a

glass of apple juice? ....for the pain...

Kit

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> Are you still in pain?

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Is the cleanse the same as a flush? I'm starting to feel strong enough

the 3 day apple fast is sounding more reasonable. I also don't know

what size my gallstones are to want to do a flush at this point. Do

gallbladder flushes or cleanses become safer after being on a program

to start disolving stones? As I said earlier, I am on an herbal formal

(pill form). I haven't had any more attacks, but am looking to feel

better than I do and support healing.

> Go on a Gallbladder cleanse.

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to feel better, try complete or super nutrition (in the files under Dr. Schulze and and again under organic supplements)

Suzitrobertabq <TrobertABQ@...> wrote:

Is the cleanse the same as a flush? I'm starting to feel strong enough the 3 day apple fast is sounding more reasonable. I also don't know what size my gallstones are to want to do a flush at this point. Do gallbladder flushes or cleanses become safer after being on a program to start disolving stones? As I said earlier, I am on an herbal formal (pill form). I haven't had any more attacks, but am looking to feel better than I do and support healing.> Go on a Gallbladder cleanse.> >

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Hi ,

The stomach distress can be a combo of all or the herbs and the changes.

Do you have any fresh ginger root in the house? Some ginger tea will

help.

The eval would be for piece of mind, I'd think....unless you have

another attack.

You can also ask that question to your DOM since she'll have all your

symptoms. And, if she gives you herbs with the stomach info...she can

add something for your stomach.

Did you request your hospital report?...just wonderin'...

Kit

> I am enjoying reading the uplifting messages at this group. I have days

> where I'm starting to feel better (after my gallbladder attack 2 weeks

> ago), and sometimes my stomach is tight. I don't know if this is due to

> the herabl medicine I'm on, changing my eating habits, or

> present/previous upset from the gallbladder. I'm still determined to

> keep my gallbladder as long as it doesn't reach a stage where it is

> really medically necessary to remove it. I have an appointment with my

> DOM next week to continue with follow up care. Is there anything else I

> can do to soothe my stomach? Is there a point where you just know you

> need to go to an allopathic doctor for another evaluation? How long

> should it take to feel better?

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