RE: Re: Bonnie - AAAAAAAAGGGGHHH

[Guest guest]

Bonnie,

I'm so sorry to hear this! You seem to know a lot about alternative health

treatments. Have you tried some unconventional treatments like extreme low carb

(to starve the cancer), intravenous vitamin C, baking soda, etc.? These

treatments in my mind are much safer than radiation, but I'm sure you have

weighed your choices carefully, just thought I'd mention this. May I ask what

kind of cancer you have?

Luv,

Debby in San , CA

147 pounds lost! 100% of health issues reversed!

Currently studying for Nutrition license and PhD in Psychology

Group: curingcandida/

Website: http://www.naturallythriving.com

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> > Yes, I will be starting radiation treatments in a few days.

[Guest guest]

Duncan:

Thanks for your suggestions. The DHEA made me spot, because it was

Metabolizing into Estradiol NOT because I was becoming younger at age 65 and

I sure don't want to have periods at this late age.

OZONE THERAPY? I don't even know where I could find this in my area. Don't

know where Dr. Pressman is located and a bit late now, since it was

discovered 6 months ago. I'm opting for Radiation.

I have a friend with breast cancer who decided to go NATURAL and she is

Terminal now because IT DIDN'T WORK FOR HER.

Bonnie

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From: candidiasis [mailto:candidiasis ] On

Behalf Of Duncan Crow

Sent: August 4, 2008 1:18 PM

candidiasis

Subject: Re: Bonnie - AAAAAAAAGGGGHHH

Bonnie, I've seen menopausal women go back to full reliable periods

every month after a few months of an anti-aging protocol. They lost

the hot flashes and all...If DHEA made you spot, it may be that you

were becoming more youthful too but you're so messed up I couldn't

be sure. For example, cancer can shrink with proper treatment

including anti-aging; cancerous cells can die outright and tumours

can go necrotic, also causing spotting.

Considering vaginal ozone insufflation for the cancer? Check out the

oxyplus and ozonetherapy groups run by ozone guru Dr. Saul Pressman.

Duncan

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> I too FELT GREAT when I was taking the DHEA for almost 2 months but

> obviously if it made me SPOT, then I was making too much Estrogen.

If

> you've had a Hysterectomy you wouldn't be alerted would you? You

would never

> know until you did a Saliva Test.

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>

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> The good thing about all of this is, it alerted me to go and have a

Pap

> Smear and it showed Cancer. So even though I miss not using the

DHEA because

> I felt younger, looked younger, slept better and had more energy, I

can't

> use it, unless I want to risk having the Cancer GROW.

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>

>

> Bonnie

[Guest guest]

Debby:

It's Cervical Cancer and I'm not going to fool around and waste anymore time

with Alternative therapies (been 6 months now since my Pap Smear) and just

getting into the Radiation this week. My friend with Breast Cancer thought

she'd go Natural and is terminal now because it didn't work.

Bonnie

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From: candidiasis [mailto:candidiasis ] On

Behalf Of Debby Padilla-Hudson

Sent: August 4, 2008 11:36 AM

candidiasis

Subject: Re: Re: Bonnie - AAAAAAAAGGGGHHH

Bonnie,

I'm so sorry to hear this! You seem to know a lot about alternative health

treatments. Have you tried some unconventional treatments like extreme low

carb (to starve the cancer), intravenous vitamin C, baking soda, etc.? These

treatments in my mind are much safer than radiation, but I'm sure you have

weighed your choices carefully, just thought I'd mention this. May I ask

what kind of cancer you have?

Luv,

Debby in San , CA

147 pounds lost! 100% of health issues reversed!

Currently studying for Nutrition license and PhD in Psychology

Group: http://health. <curingcandida/>

/group/curingcandida/

Website: http://www.naturall <http://www.naturallythriving.com>

ythriving.com

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> > Yes, I will be starting radiation treatments in a few days.

[Guest guest]

Me too Vicky. They aren't removing it, just zapping it for now.

Bonnie

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From: candidiasis [mailto:candidiasis ] On

Behalf Of multitoed

Sent: August 3, 2008 6:59 PM

candidiasis

Subject: Re: Bonnie - AAAAAAAAGGGGHHH

Oh no Bonnie. I'm so sorry!!! I hope they get it all out.

Vicky

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> Yes, I will be starting radiation treatments in a few days.

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>

> Bonnie

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[Guest guest]

Duncan:

No I didn't say I had an infection but that Haemolytic Ecoli turned up in a

stool test done by Great Smokies 4 YEARS AGO. I haven't had a Bladder

infection in 40 years.

I don't know what it means but what I was concerned about was that I have NO

ECOLI present. Can you tell me what that means??? Is it okay to have NO

Ecoli?

Bonnie

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From: candidiasis [mailto:candidiasis ] On

Behalf Of Duncan Crow

Sent: August 5, 2008 3:56 PM

candidiasis

Subject: Re: Bonnie - AAAAAAAAGGGGHHH

Bonnie, you mentioned you had a haemorrhagic e.coli infection a

couple of weeks ago -- has your endocrinologist ruled out this e.

coli as a vaginal infection? E.coli is the major player in

bladder/kidney/UTI as well... ...and, it produced blood (haemorrhage).

Duncan

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> > Duncan:

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> >

> > Thanks for your suggestions. The DHEA made me spot, because it was

> > Metabolizing into Estradiol NOT because I was becoming younger at

> age 65 and

> > I sure don't want to have periods at this late age.

> >

> >

> >

> > OZONE THERAPY? I don't even know where I could find this in my

> area. Don't

> > know where Dr. Pressman is located and a bit late now, since it

was

> > discovered 6 months ago. I'm opting for Radiation.

> >

> >

> >

> > I have a friend with breast cancer who decided to go NATURAL and

> she is

> > Terminal now because IT DIDN'T WORK FOR HER.

> >

> >

> >

> > Bonnie

>

[Guest guest]

Duncan:

Estradiol is one of MANY Estrogens we produce BUT it is the most aggresive

and mildly Cancer causing, if it becomes DOMINANT and it does after

perimenopause.

Thank you for being interested and asking all these questions. I didn't get

around to doing any testing during the 2-3 months I was using DHEA, but I

knew it was the problem because of the SPOTTING. I'm sure you already know

that DHEA metabolizes first into Testosterone and THEN into Estradiol,

right?

NO ANTIOXIDANTS while being treated with Radiation. Absolutely not!!!

Antioxidants will PROTECT the Cancer cells from being killed and we don't

want that to happen.

Once it's all over, I'll go back on the Antioxidants (red, raw Palm Oil,

Vitamin C, Vitamin E and so on) in a big way.

Bonnie

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From: candidiasis [mailto:candidiasis ] On

Behalf Of Duncan Crow

Sent: August 5, 2008 3:50 PM

candidiasis

Subject: Re: Bonnie - AAAAAAAAGGGGHHH

Bonnie, while estrogen may make one spot, estradiols should not

because they are already broken down. I'm aware that estradiol may

promote certain cancers, but it is after all a natural metabolic

product of both testosterone and estrogen.

So, what was your estradiol level while using DHEA, how did your

abnormally high reading correlate to your DHEA use, and what is your

estradiol level now, since you've lowered your DHEA dose? I ask

because when you're dealing with millionths of a gram, guessing is

not adequate, and an accurate answer from you today may be of value

to a number of ladies out there.

I sympathize with your friend's early demise, but have to point out

that medicine has found no cure for cancer either. Good luck with

your radiation. I would suggest a strong antioxidant component in

order to reduce the free radical damage (radiation sickness) from the

treatment; the glutathione handbook from Jimmy Gutman M.D. shows the

medical research for this point.

Duncan

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> Duncan:

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>

>

> Thanks for your suggestions. The DHEA made me spot, because it was

> Metabolizing into Estradiol NOT because I was becoming younger at

age 65 and

> I sure don't want to have periods at this late age.

>

>

>

> OZONE THERAPY? I don't even know where I could find this in my

area. Don't

> know where Dr. Pressman is located and a bit late now, since it was

> discovered 6 months ago. I'm opting for Radiation.

>

>

>

> I have a friend with breast cancer who decided to go NATURAL and

she is

> Terminal now because IT DIDN'T WORK FOR HER.

>

>

>

> Bonnie

[Guest guest]

Duncan:

I didn't say no Estradiol was tested. I said nothing was tested but BLEEDING

is caused by Estrogen (Estradial) dominance in relation to other hormones -

NOT DHEA itself.

Bonnie

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From: candidiasis [mailto:candidiasis ] On

Behalf Of Duncan Crow

Sent: August 5, 2008 7:59 PM

candidiasis

Subject: Re: Bonnie - AAAAAAAAGGGGHHH

Bonnie, thank you for confirming that no estradiol tests were done.

Unlike you, I can't draw a conclusion based on a lack of concrete

data so I'll move on...

The research shows antioxidant therapy after radiation stops

radiation sickness, which continues sometimes for months after the

radiation program. This arises from radiation's formation of the most

potent oxidizer, that being the hydroxyl ion, and it does not stop

unless it is quenched. The main antioxidant is glutathione, so don't

forget the cystine supplement, at least after your program is done.

Glutathione is useful before a radiation or chemo program too; the

research I've been pointing out for years on this is referenced in

Dr. Jimmy Gutman's book " Glutathione: Your Most Powerful Healing

Agent " . It shows that unlike other antioxidants, glutathione increase

increases glutathione in normal cells but reduces the glutathione

concentration in cancer cells, which makes them weaker and more

subject to being treated. Here follows a snip from

http://www.glutathi <http://www.glutathionecancertreatment.com/>

onecancertreatment.com/ that has been condensed

from this book:

</begin snip>

Traditional cancer treatments such as chemo or

radiation therapy work better

In the same way that the lowering of glutathione in the cancer cells

make them more susceptible to damage, including chemotherapy and

radiotherapy, elevated glutathione levels in healthy cells make them

more resistant to the treatment. This leads to fewer side effects,

such as severe weight loss, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, hair loss and

even leukopenia (loss of white blood cells).

Patients with higher intracellular glutathione (GSH) levels

experience far fewer chemotherapeutic side effects. In addition,

cells with higher levels of GSH carry more protection against

radiation damage, thereby lessening the side effects of radiotherapy.

Radio therapists who have investigated the role of GSH in protecting

cells have been able to correlate higher pretreatment glutathione

levels with a lower amount of radiation burns suffered afterwards.

Pre-treatment or simultaneous treatment with products to raise GSH

consistently demonstrate a better tolerance to therapy.

When considering your best course of action, remember your body has

to manufacture its own Glutathione. You cannot take a Glutathione

pill and expect it to do you any good. Your body cannot absorb

Glutathione in that manner. The only way to increase your Glutathione

levels is to ingest the precursors or building blocks.

</end snip>

Immunocal has a method of use PATENT in cancer treatment; the others

may not but the story is the same.

Hope this helps...

Duncan

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> > Duncan:

> >

> >

> >

> > Thanks for your suggestions. The DHEA made me spot, because it was

> > Metabolizing into Estradiol NOT because I was becoming younger at

> age 65 and

> > I sure don't want to have periods at this late age.

> >

> >

> >

> > OZONE THERAPY? I don't even know where I could find this in my

> area. Don't

> > know where Dr. Pressman is located and a bit late now, since it

was

> > discovered 6 months ago. I'm opting for Radiation.

> >

> >

> >

> > I have a friend with breast cancer who decided to go NATURAL and

> she is

> > Terminal now because IT DIDN'T WORK FOR HER.

> >

> >

> >

> > Bonnie

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