Guest guest Posted June 27, 2004 Report Share Posted June 27, 2004 joshua_gulick wrote: > > I have a new product which some of you might be interested in. ... It is a rare earth >elixir containing sixteen rare earth elements. You seem to be confusing rare earths with trace nutrients. The former can be quite toxic, particularly in the milligram range, in the lanthanide series of heavy metals, causing cancer and other lethal conditions. The list has discussed this before. We are required by law to post MSDS (Material Safety Data Sheets) when just using their compounds. You might look at the following article for a list of the hazards of rare earth chemistry. http://ehp.niehs.nih.gov/members/1996/Suppl-1/hirano-full.html Since making your elixir would be expensive (They are not called " rare " earths because they are plentiful.), and taking it would be near suicidal, I am suspicious as to whether your product actually contains the hundreds of milligrams that you have advertised. What sort of analysis do you use to certify contents? Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2004 Report Share Posted June 27, 2004 HAH! Thank you Professor. Gracia > joshua_gulick wrote: > > > > I have a new product which some of you might be interested in. ... It is a rare earth > >elixir containing sixteen rare earth elements. > > You seem to be confusing rare earths with trace nutrients. The former > can be quite toxic, particularly in the milligram range, in the > lanthanide series of heavy metals, causing cancer and other lethal > conditions. The list has discussed this before. We are required by law > to post MSDS (Material Safety Data Sheets) when just using their > compounds. You might look at the following article for a list of the > hazards of rare earth chemistry. > > http://ehp.niehs.nih.gov/members/1996/Suppl-1/hirano-full.html > > Since making your elixir would be expensive (They are not called " rare " > earths because they are plentiful.), and taking it would be near > suicidal, I am suspicious as to whether your product actually contains > the hundreds of milligrams that you have advertised. What sort of > analysis do you use to certify contents? > > Chuck > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2004 Report Share Posted June 27, 2004 Pshaw. You need to do some research. There are no studies done documenting ANY toxic effect of the lanthanides, especially at the very low doses I am discussing. Peace, Josh On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 20:59:49 -0400, Gracia <circe@...> wrote: > > HAH! Thank you Professor. > Gracia > >> joshua_gulick wrote: >> > >> > I have a new product which some of you might be interested in. ... It >> is > a rare earth >> >elixir containing sixteen rare earth elements. >> >> You seem to be confusing rare earths with trace nutrients. The former >> can be quite toxic, particularly in the milligram range, in the >> lanthanide series of heavy metals, causing cancer and other lethal >> conditions. The list has discussed this before. We are required by law >> to post MSDS (Material Safety Data Sheets) when just using their >> compounds. You might look at the following article for a list of the >> hazards of rare earth chemistry. >> >> http://ehp.niehs.nih.gov/members/1996/Suppl-1/hirano-full.html >> >> Since making your elixir would be expensive (They are not called " rare " >> earths because they are plentiful.), and taking it would be near >> suicidal, I am suspicious as to whether your product actually contains >> the hundreds of milligrams that you have advertised. What sort of >> analysis do you use to certify contents? >> >> Chuck >> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2004 Report Share Posted June 28, 2004 Gulick (home) wrote: > Pshaw. You need to do some research. There are no studies done > documenting ANY toxic effect of the lanthanides, especially at the very > low doses I am discussing. You obviously did not read the URL I posted which cited 139 of the most recent studies specifically on lanthanides showing toxicity at much lower doses than you listed and in some cases listing lethality at lower doses. Particularly note Table 4 which includes an LD-50 of 10 mg per kg of body weight for cerium chloride. About half way through the article, it starts describing the toxic effects of rare earths on various organs with the corresponding citations. Here it is again, in case you would like to read it this time: http://ehp.niehs.nih.gov/members/1996/Suppl-1/hirano-full.html - Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2004 Report Share Posted June 29, 2004 I've never heard of any of the things in the elixir, so care to elaborate on them? Thanks. Jan joshua_gulick wrote: >Hi everyone, > >I have a new product which some of you might be interested in. It has >been a pet project for a while and now you can try some. It is not >colloidal, but it would seem to be quite useful. It is quite >literally awesome. Very, very nice. It is still in the experimental >stages and I will make no health claims or claim to cure any specific >conditions (of course). It is a rare earth elixir containing sixteen >rare earth elements. > >Scandium 20mg >Yttrium 100mg >Lanthanum 100mg >Cerium 100mg >Praseodymium 100mg >Neodymium 100mg >Samarium 100mg >Europium 100mg >Gadolinium 100mg >Terbium 100mg >Dysprosium 100mg >Holmium 100mg >Erbium 100mg >Thullium 20mg >Ytterbium 100mg >Lutetium 20mg > >A long time ago, I was reading on web-elements.com notes about the >biologic effect of various rare earth metals and their ability to >increase metabolism, and further reading of animal studies >confirmed this. Perhaps some of you have come across a reference to a >mouse study demonstrating doubled lifespans with rare earth >supplementation. Regardless, I can tell you that, in my own >experience, I have went from needing 9-10 hours of sleep down to 5 or >six. Gah! I wake up every morning an hour and a half before my alarm >goes off. I would speculate that this elixir dramatically >activated the endocrine system... more so than anything I have taken >before. I feel a ball of energy in my chest that is quite nice. >Anyhow, I would suggest that the elixir I ship will be quite enough >for 100 days, at 1/4 teaspoon per day, providing a little less than >14mg of rare earth concentrate per day. Oh, and it is made from >individually purified (99.99%)samples and I did wash my hands. All >the elements are as carbonates and citrates and easily absorbed. A >bottle will cost $30 including shipping. I can confirm that my dog >appreciates it very much (I give him the carbonate) and a little bit >in my plants seems to help noticibly. But that might just be my mind. > >If you would to experiment with this, you can send payment and >shipping details to via http://paypal.com to joshua.gulick@.... > >Thanks, > > Gulick > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2004 Report Share Posted June 30, 2004 Thanks for that, Chuck. If you ever feel like debunking more stuff, hop on to [Hashimotos]. Let's just say that if had tried to sell this there, he would be counting his money right now. Jan Chuck B wrote: >joshua_gulick wrote: > > >> >>I have a new product which some of you might be interested in. ... It is a rare earth >> >> > >elixir containing sixteen rare earth elements. > >You seem to be confusing rare earths with trace nutrients. The former >can be quite toxic, particularly in the milligram range, in the >lanthanide series of heavy metals, causing cancer and other lethal >conditions. The list has discussed this before. We are required by law >to post MSDS (Material Safety Data Sheets) when just using their >compounds. You might look at the following article for a list of the >hazards of rare earth chemistry. > >http://ehp.niehs.nih.gov/members/1996/Suppl-1/hirano-full.html > >Since making your elixir would be expensive (They are not called " rare " >earths because they are plentiful.), and taking it would be near >suicidal, I am suspicious as to whether your product actually contains >the hundreds of milligrams that you have advertised. What sort of >analysis do you use to certify contents? > >Chuck > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2004 Report Share Posted June 30, 2004 It seems I lucked out and found the right group for me-- the sensible one. One of the signs I read from the adrenal fatigue quiz is the abilty to " read people " -- a good thing sometimes. I didn't bother reading 's post right through, and I bet most of you guys didn't either.:-) Gail In hypothyroidism , Janaina Viggiano <janaina@v...> wrote: > Thanks for that, Chuck. If you ever feel like debunking more stuff, hop > on to [Hashimotos]. Let's just say that if had tried to sell this > there, he would be counting his money right now. > > > Jan > > Chuck B wrote: > > >joshua_gulick wrote: > > > > > >> > >>I have a new product which some of you might be interested in. ... It is a rare earth > >> > >> > > >elixir containing sixteen rare earth elements. > > > >You seem to be confusing rare earths with trace nutrients. The former > >can be quite toxic, particularly in the milligram range, in the > >lanthanide series of heavy metals, causing cancer and other lethal > >conditions. The list has discussed this before. We are required by law > >to post MSDS (Material Safety Data Sheets) when just using their > >compounds. You might look at the following article for a list of the > >hazards of rare earth chemistry. > > > >http://ehp.niehs.nih.gov/members/1996/Suppl-1/hirano-full.html > > > >Since making your elixir would be expensive (They are not called " rare " > >earths because they are plentiful.), and taking it would be near > >suicidal, I am suspicious as to whether your product actually contains > >the hundreds of milligrams that you have advertised. What sort of > >analysis do you use to certify contents? > > > >Chuck > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2004 Report Share Posted June 30, 2004 Your intuition is right Gail -- I didn't invest any time reading his stuff either!!!!! ) Re: New Product It seems I lucked out and found the right group for me-- the sensible one. One of the signs I read from the adrenal fatigue quiz is the abilty to " read people " -- a good thing sometimes. I didn't bother reading 's post right through, and I bet most of you guys didn't either.:-) Gail In hypothyroidism , Janaina Viggiano <janaina@v...> wrote: > Thanks for that, Chuck. If you ever feel like debunking more stuff, hop > on to [Hashimotos]. Let's just say that if had tried to sell this > there, he would be counting his money right now. > > > Jan > > Chuck B wrote: > > >joshua_gulick wrote: > > > > > >> > >>I have a new product which some of you might be interested in. ... It is a rare earth > >> > >> > > >elixir containing sixteen rare earth elements. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2005 Report Share Posted August 9, 2005 Kathy, I bought a Magic Bullet recently for $59.99 and am enjoying it. At this price, however, you don't get the full size blender and the juicer. If I remember correctly, they run an additional $30 or so. I'm just starting my journey in raw foodism, so I haven't done a lot with it yet. Part of my reason for buying it was that my coffee grinder had just given out, and one of the two blades is perfect for that. It took me 20 seconds to grind it to powder. And it was a lot less messy. I gave up coffee recently, but I'm sure in raw foodism, there are plenty of uses for the flat blade. The other blade, the cross blade, is used for most other processing. I like the idea of being able to put fresh fruit and ice cubes in there and come up with a nice smoothie. I have whipped up a couple eggs and put them in the microwave, changing to a lid with holes in it. The eggs are pretty strange to look at all rolled up in a ball like that, but they taste fine and take very little time and effort. Prior to preparing the eggs, you can chop up some ingredients in the smaller of the two bullet cups to add to the eggs. BTY, I know this is a no-no, cooking food in a plastic container in the microwave. ; ) As far as chopping goes, it takes some practice to get it to the right consistency. Too long and the food turns to mush. You have to work with it some, but I think it's a nice, versatile gadget. (I love gadgets!) Kathy T.Kat <vanokat@...> wrote: Just wondering if any of you have tried this? Looks pretty good to me. Kathy http://www.buythebullet.com/ Click to join TruthAGAINSTtradition TruthAGAINSTtradition You can only trust those who have a living, vital relationship with JESUS in this hour... and we don't look to them but we only look to JESUS... But we are HIS hands and HIS feet on this earth and the HOLY SPIRIT moves through those who are submitted to HIM and walk IN LOVE! __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2005 Report Share Posted August 9, 2005 cooking ANYTHING in ANYWAY in a microwave is a no-no! Get that murdering piece of crap out of your house!!! Shari - who doesn't have a microwave and hasn't for 22 years! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2005 Report Share Posted August 9, 2005 Kathy, The rest of us are not offended...if anyone is....I have a convection/microwave...I must admit I can't remember when I used the micro last. But at school I sometimes do. I've only ever used it to reheat. I found a good substitute is steam. Depending on what you've got going....I fix a whole plate (small) and set the thing in the 'bowl' of an electric steamer. If you've got a double bowl steamer you can even split up a larger plate. I also use one of those electric egg poachers to steam single servings of veggies. Steam reheats and cooks really quickly ...I don't miss the speed of the micro with it. Stay with us...don't take it personal...learn to identify sources...just a suggestion. Kit > cooking ANYTHING in ANYWAY in a microwave is a no-no! Get that murdering piece of crap out of your house!!! > > Shari - who doesn't have a microwave and hasn't for 22 years! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2005 Report Share Posted August 9, 2005 NO NO NO.. Kathy... come back out of lurk mode... You have not offended anyone.. they were all just letting you know (in case you didn't) that microwave kills food... but it is great for heating water.. Shari just gets into what she believes a bit stronger than most of us do... right Shari? Suzi <psalms2go4@...> wrote: Sorry to have offended you all here. I'll go back to lurking mode. (The material here is f-a-s-c-i-n-a-t-i-n-g!) Kathy T. Suzi What is a weed? A plant whose virtues have not yet been discovered. www.onegrp.com/?mamanott organic cosmetics http://suziesgoats.wholefoodfarmacy.com/__________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2005 Report Share Posted August 9, 2005 Sorry - NO bread either! If you need to do something with it, use it for an anchor on your boat. Or better yet send it to Hanford Nuclear Plant in Richland, Washington and they can encase it in concrete and bury it along with the spent plutonium they bury over there. That is the only way to handle nuclear materials. You do realize that microwaves are radioactive, don't you? Shari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2008 Report Share Posted June 5, 2008 Sounds interesting. Do you have any pictures of the cups? Hazel New Product Dear Friends, I am new to this group and i got some mails from you guys,really interesting. Apart from that i am planing to introduce a product in market which is going to be substitute for plastic in future. We have a plan to introduce cups made up of coconut shells, which can be used to serve coffee, drinks, ice cream and etc... i welcome all your suggestions to your to help the world to avoid pollution................. Regards, __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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