Guest guest Posted September 9, 1999 Report Share Posted September 9, 1999 Hi folks, I finally made my initial appointment for next Wednesday with a doctor working with antiaging medicine & hGH injections. I decided to go that route and get on a prolonged therapy rather than the temporary test I was going to perform on myself for just a couple of weeks. Spending the last month on a hGH list gave me enough info to make the leap. And, in the process, I found a doctor that does telephone consults for people wishing this treatment. I'm not going to him, as I found a local doctor, but I mention it in case someone wants to go this route & doesn't live near a doctor who understands hGH. Acording to the doctor I found on the net, it now costs as little as $250 to get started, with the tests & telephone consult, and about $450 a month to buy recombinant hGH. As I get further along I will make posts to oxyplus on my progress. Is anyone else on the list taking the injections? jim -- jim@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience http://www.entrance.to/poetry The biggest difference between genius & stupidity is that genius has its limits. -- anony amicus certus in re incerta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 1999 Report Share Posted September 9, 1999 ....hGH injections... ~~~~~ Jim, You are always on the forefront. Were you not taking it orally for awhile? Please tell us...what you think of oral... and what you hear about the injections... and what you think/hope they will do for you... ~^^V^^~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 1999 Report Share Posted September 9, 1999 > From: Vilik Rapheles <vilik@...> > Jim, You are always on the forefront. Vilik, I don't simply want to get my youthful health back, I want back the youth that was robbed from me by my lack of health, so I can re-live it, knowing what I know now. ;-)) The only thing I have come across that actually rebuilds damaged organs, etc. is human growth hormone. But, I wouldn't be so brave if they hadn't learned to make it from recombinant techniques. The Lilly Humatrope is the full 191 amino acid duplicate of the primary analog of natural hGH. Before that, they were getting it from cadavers. > Were you not taking it orally for awhile? Yes, I was taking a secretagogue, and still have some at $32 for anyone interested. I noticed benefit, but as I studied about hGH, I decided I want the real thing. > Please tell us...what you think of oral... I think this is the way to go for younger people, or people in basically good health. But for someone like myself, 55 & fairly well recovered from congestive heart failure, the injections are the way to go, IMO. > and what you hear about the injections... Everybody taking them says take them! > and what you think/hope they will do for you... I'm going to find out what they do for me. But, I could stand for some regeneration of heart tissue, brain tissue. I can live with the energy, drive & sense of well-being that make one want to go outside & do things. I can tolerate any improvement that comes my way. I believe I deserve it! jim -- jim@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience http://www.entrance.to/poetry The biggest difference between genius & stupidity is that genius has its limits. -- anony amicus certus in re incerta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 1999 Report Share Posted September 9, 1999 >Jim wrote: I don't simply want to get my youthful health back, I want back the youth that was robbed from me by my lack of health, so I can re-live it, knowing what I know now. ;-)) ~~~~~~~~~~~ yes yes YES! The years the locusts have eaten...restored. I don't quote scripture on a regular basis but I do like that one. I can live with the energy, drive & sense of well-being that make one want to go outside & do things. I can tolerate any improvement that comes my way. I believe I deserve it! ~~~~~~~~~~~ You AND me I do agree deserve to play the *livelong* day! I am going to be trying living water ... superionized water... which there was some talk about on the list awhile back, but it wasn't available for human consumption yet. I'll be starting when I come back (be offline a few weeks) and will share my experience. Supposedly the creator who's been drinking it for 12 years is 'ageless " ...(shades of our breatherian blonde...) ~^^V^^~ >jim >-- >jim@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience http://www.entrance.to/poetry > >The biggest difference between genius & stupidity is that genius has its limits. -- anony > >amicus certus in re incerta > > > >--------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 1999 Report Share Posted September 9, 1999 From: Vilik Rapheles <vilik@...> >Jim wrote: >I am going to be trying living water ... superionized water... which there >was some talk about on the list awhile back, but it wasn't available for >human consumption yet. I'll be starting when I come back (be offline a few >weeks) and will share my experience. Supposedly the creator who's been >drinking it for 12 years is 'ageless " ...(shades of our breatherian blonde...) ~^^V^^~ Let us know if it makes you ageless and we will make the creator rich. bobratliff@... > > >--------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 1999 Report Share Posted September 9, 1999 Jim, Are you familiar with (APGL) Arginine Pyroglutimate & Lysine? This combo is reported to increase HGH many hundreds of times. Go to the site of Greg http://www.ozemail.com.au/~gowatson/aging.html and check it out. Dennis Lipter Jim Lambert wrote: > From: Jim Lambert <jlambert@...> > > Hi folks, > > I finally made my initial appointment for next Wednesday with a doctor working with antiaging medicine & hGH injections. I decided to go that route and get on a prolonged therapy rather than the temporary test I was going to perform on myself for just a couple of weeks. Spending the last month on a hGH list gave me enough info to make the leap. > > And, in the process, I found a doctor that does telephone consults for people wishing this treatment. I'm not going to him, as I found a local doctor, but I mention it in case someone wants to go this route & doesn't live near a doctor who understands hGH.. > > Acording to the doctor I found on the net, it now costs as little as $250 to get started, with the tests & telephone consult, and about $450 a month to buy recombinant hGH. > > As I get further along I will make posts to oxyplus on my progress. Is anyone else on the list taking the injections? > > jim > > -- > jim@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience http://www.entrance.to/poetry > > The biggest difference between genius & stupidity is that genius has its limits. -- anony > > amicus certus in re incerta > > --------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2000 Report Share Posted October 14, 2000 Corny, I'm 56. I self-injected. And, the positive effects can be put in one word: rejuvenation. The injections work and unlike the old days, more than 9 years ago, we don't get the hormone from cadavers or animals. I would not have taken those if I could have aforded them. The hormone we inject now is made by e. coli that have been gene spliced to human anterior pituitary cells, in the same fashion that human insulin is made. Using todays protocols no bad side effects have been noticed. It is an extremely safe therapy now and there are tons of positive side effects, called rejuvenation. rHGH injection therapy literally rebuilds organs glands & muscles all over the body. In other words, rejuvenation. Just like in science fiction movies. jim Mike E Cornwall wrote: > > Hi Jim > I was intrigued by your reference to the HGH injections you have been > receiving for 9 months. You stated that you are " growing younger! " > > I am wondering how old you are and if you could elaborate on the positive > changes that are taking place. Any negative? Do you self-inject? > > Corny > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2000 Report Share Posted October 14, 2000 does anyone know if HGH is available in Mexico? A. : . A. : . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2000 Report Share Posted October 14, 2000 WHere Can I buy some?? Re: Re: HGH injections >, > >The usual dose for most folks is 1 international unit (IU) daily. The >current price that is readily available is $11/IU for generic rHGH. A >coupla dollars more for Lilly Humatrope, whic is mo better! > >So, $11 daily times.... > >jim > >Simon -the- Jester wrote: >> >> Jim, >> >> What is the monthly cost for the injections? >> >> >> >> Re: Parkinson Disease >> >> > Saul, >> > >> > When I was still on the Rejuvenation list there was a lot >> of discussion >> > about secretagogues (things that enduce secretion) and >> whether or not >> > the homeopathic ones were any good. The bottom line for >> growth hormone >> > secretagogues is the IGF-1 blood test. I won't personally >> put stock in >> > any particular brand of product that doesn't run a >> before-and-after >> > blood test on at least ten people. That would only cost >> $1000 and would >> > be a clear indication if the product they are selling >> works. >> > >> > But, my doctor, Dr. , was then participating >> in a study of a >> > homeopathic product and he did say the results were >> statistically >> > significant in the positive. He wouldn't say more then >> because it was >> > prior to publication & it was a colleagues paper, not his. >> So, I don't >> > know to what degree a homeopathic releaser would raise >> IGF-1 levels, but >> > some is enough for most people. >> > >> > I had a concussion at age 5 that we now know injured my >> pituitary. LAst >> > year my baseline IGF-1 was 100, which is about that of an >> unhealthy 85 >> > year old. That is considered a disease level, and is why I >> took the >> > injections. I stopped last month, because I am too yellow >> to go into the >> > red for lack of green. ;-) I will start again soon when I >> have some more >> > money. It's a good idea to stop periodically anyway. >> > >> > I have noticed a lot of improvements in my body and its >> health, and many >> > things are better than before even after a month without >> the injections. >> > I don't seem to be backsliding much. >> > >> > As for the PArkinson's of Erma's friend. To my knowledge, >> Parkinson's >> > cannot be improved, because it is caused by lower dopamine >> release due >> > to destruction of the cells that produce it in the >> substantia niger. >> > But, the progression of the disease can be stopped or >> significantly >> > slowed and CES will help with the tremors, if needed. >> > >> > I think she should be taking deprenyl. Doctors in the US >> do prescribe >> > that, I believe. Dr. does telephone consultations >> almost >> > everywhere in the US if she wants another opinion. He is a >> longevity >> > specialist. IMO, they understand the hormone balances & >> things that >> > affect the brain the best. >> > >> > If it was me, I would also try lucidril to stop the >> destruction of more >> > of the dopamine producing cells by lipofuscin, hydergine >> to attempt to >> > recover some damaged neurons & piracetam to protect all >> brain cells from >> > further damage. >> > >> > jim >> > >> > Saul Pressman wrote: >> > > >> > > Dear Jim, >> > > >> > > Do you have any idea how GHIT (Growth Hormone Injection >> Therapy) >> > > compares with the results obtained from the homeopathic >> growth hormone >> > > products around. >> > > >> > > Best of Health! >> > > Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh >> > > >> > > URL: http://www.plasmafire.com >> > > email: saul@... >> > > >> > >> > -------------------------- eGroups >> Sponsor -------------------------~-~> >> > Create your business web site your way now at Bigstep.com. >> > It's the fast, easy way to get online, to promote your >> business, >> > and to sell your products and services. 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Guest guest Posted October 14, 2000 Report Share Posted October 14, 2000 BUT where in MEXICO?? what Store? pharmacy Re: Re: HGH injections >> >> >, >> > >> >The usual dose for most folks is 1 international unit (IU) daily. The >> >current price that is readily available is $11/IU for generic rHGH. A >> >coupla dollars more for Lilly Humatrope, whic is mo better! >> > >> >So, $11 daily times.... >> > >> >jim >> > >> >Simon -the- Jester wrote: >> >> >> >> Jim, >> >> >> >> What is the monthly cost for the injections? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Re: Parkinson Disease >> >> >> >> > Saul, >> >> > >> >> > When I was still on the Rejuvenation list there was a lot >> >> of discussion >> >> > about secretagogues (things that enduce secretion) and >> >> whether or not >> >> > the homeopathic ones were any good. The bottom line for >> >> growth hormone >> >> > secretagogues is the IGF-1 blood test. I won't personally >> >> put stock in >> >> > any particular brand of product that doesn't run a >> >> before-and-after >> >> > blood test on at least ten people. That would only cost >> >> $1000 and would >> >> > be a clear indication if the product they are selling >> >> works. >> >> > >> >> > But, my doctor, Dr. , was then participating >> >> in a study of a >> >> > homeopathic product and he did say the results were >> >> statistically >> >> > significant in the positive. He wouldn't say more then >> >> because it was >> >> > prior to publication & it was a colleagues paper, not his. >> >> So, I don't >> >> > know to what degree a homeopathic releaser would raise >> >> IGF-1 levels, but >> >> > some is enough for most people. >> >> > >> >> > I had a concussion at age 5 that we now know injured my >> >> pituitary. LAst >> >> > year my baseline IGF-1 was 100, which is about that of an >> >> unhealthy 85 >> >> > year old. That is considered a disease level, and is why I >> >> took the >> >> > injections. I stopped last month, because I am too yellow >> >> to go into the >> >> > red for lack of green. ;-) I will start again soon when I >> >> have some more >> >> > money. It's a good idea to stop periodically anyway. >> >> > >> >> > I have noticed a lot of improvements in my body and its >> >> health, and many >> >> > things are better than before even after a month without >> >> the injections. >> >> > I don't seem to be backsliding much. >> >> > >> >> > As for the PArkinson's of Erma's friend. To my knowledge, >> >> Parkinson's >> >> > cannot be improved, because it is caused by lower dopamine >> >> release due >> >> > to destruction of the cells that produce it in the >> >> substantia niger. >> >> > But, the progression of the disease can be stopped or >> >> significantly >> >> > slowed and CES will help with the tremors, if needed. >> >> > >> >> > I think she should be taking deprenyl. Doctors in the US >> >> do prescribe >> >> > that, I believe. Dr. does telephone consultations >> >> almost >> >> > everywhere in the US if she wants another opinion. He is a >> >> longevity >> >> > specialist. IMO, they understand the hormone balances & >> >> things that >> >> > affect the brain the best. >> >> > >> >> > If it was me, I would also try lucidril to stop the >> >> destruction of more >> >> > of the dopamine producing cells by lipofuscin, hydergine >> >> to attempt to >> >> > recover some damaged neurons & piracetam to protect all >> >> brain cells from >> >> > further damage. >> >> > >> >> > jim >> >> > >> >> > Saul Pressman wrote: >> >> > > >> >> > > Dear Jim, >> >> > > >> >> > > Do you have any idea how GHIT (Growth Hormone Injection >> >> Therapy) >> >> > > compares with the results obtained from the homeopathic >> >> growth hormone >> >> > > products around. >> >> > > >> >> > > Best of Health! >> >> > > Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh >> >> > > >> >> > > URL: http://www.plasmafire.com >> >> > > email: saul@... >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > -------------------------- eGroups >> >> Sponsor -------------------------~-~> >> >> > Create your business web site your way now at Bigstep.com. >> >> > It's the fast, easy way to get online, to promote your >> >> business, >> >> > and to sell your products and services. 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Guest guest Posted October 14, 2000 Report Share Posted October 14, 2000 It is readily available there. If you are there, or planning to go, I can put you in touch with someone who lives there and leads people through the maze to get what they need there, for a small commission. It is easy to get Lilly Humatrope there. WHat I get here was re-imported from there. jim superflous1@... wrote: > > does anyone know if HGH is available in > Mexico? > > A. : . A. : . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2000 Report Share Posted October 14, 2000 jim... i live in winterhaven california, or at least on the ft. yuma indian reservation near there about 1/2 mile from the border at algadones. it's a regular hermits convention. i'd love to get some hHGH and roll back some of the 51 years of well deserved collateral damage. with all the mexican pharmacies on-line i don't see why people buy mediciines here. i never will again :-D A. : . A. : . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2000 Report Share Posted October 14, 2000 Super, Ellis Toussier runs the Rejuvenation list at . He lives in Mexico City and does everything he can to promote a therapy he believes in. His personal website has a lot of info for you. Do a search on his name or join Rejuvenation, which you need to do if you a thinking of injections. In a few months on that list one can have a better education on the subject of hGH than almost any doctor you talk to. And, there is at least one specialist on that list to keep them honest. That is where I met Dr. . It is real neat to be able to email your doctor with any question you need answered about your therapy & get a timely response. Also, at www.ceri.com they have a FAQ about buying hGH in Mexico, the law, how to go about it, etc. jim superflous1@... wrote: > > jim... > i live in winterhaven california, or at least on the ft. yuma indian > reservation near there about 1/2 mile from the border at algadones. > it's a regular hermits convention. > i'd love to get some hHGH and roll back some of the 51 years of well > deserved collateral damage. with all the mexican pharmacies on-line i > don't see why people buy mediciines here. i never will again :-D > > A. : . A. : . > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2000 Report Share Posted October 14, 2000 Jim, What is the monthly cost for the injections? Re: Parkinson Disease > Saul, > > When I was still on the Rejuvenation list there was a lot of discussion > about secretagogues (things that enduce secretion) and whether or not > the homeopathic ones were any good. The bottom line for growth hormone > secretagogues is the IGF-1 blood test. I won't personally put stock in > any particular brand of product that doesn't run a before-and-after > blood test on at least ten people. That would only cost $1000 and would > be a clear indication if the product they are selling works. > > But, my doctor, Dr. , was then participating in a study of a > homeopathic product and he did say the results were statistically > significant in the positive. He wouldn't say more then because it was > prior to publication & it was a colleagues paper, not his. So, I don't > know to what degree a homeopathic releaser would raise IGF-1 levels, but > some is enough for most people. > > I had a concussion at age 5 that we now know injured my pituitary. LAst > year my baseline IGF-1 was 100, which is about that of an unhealthy 85 > year old. That is considered a disease level, and is why I took the > injections. I stopped last month, because I am too yellow to go into the > red for lack of green. ;-) I will start again soon when I have some more > money. It's a good idea to stop periodically anyway. > > I have noticed a lot of improvements in my body and its health, and many > things are better than before even after a month without the injections. > I don't seem to be backsliding much. > > As for the PArkinson's of Erma's friend. To my knowledge, Parkinson's > cannot be improved, because it is caused by lower dopamine release due > to destruction of the cells that produce it in the substantia niger. > But, the progression of the disease can be stopped or significantly > slowed and CES will help with the tremors, if needed. > > I think she should be taking deprenyl. Doctors in the US do prescribe > that, I believe. Dr. does telephone consultations almost > everywhere in the US if she wants another opinion. He is a longevity > specialist. IMO, they understand the hormone balances & things that > affect the brain the best. > > If it was me, I would also try lucidril to stop the destruction of more > of the dopamine producing cells by lipofuscin, hydergine to attempt to > recover some damaged neurons & piracetam to protect all brain cells from > further damage. > > jim > > Saul Pressman wrote: > > > > Dear Jim, > > > > Do you have any idea how GHIT (Growth Hormone Injection Therapy) > > compares with the results obtained from the homeopathic growth hormone > > products around. > > > > Best of Health! > > Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh > > > > URL: http://www.plasmafire.com > > email: saul@... > > > > -------------------------- eGroups Sponsor -------------------------~-~> > Create your business web site your way now at Bigstep.com. > It's the fast, easy way to get online, to promote your business, > and to sell your products and services. Try Bigstep.com now. > 1/9183/6/_/507288/_/971542407/ > ---------------------------------------------------------- ----------> > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2000 Report Share Posted October 15, 2000 , The usual dose for most folks is 1 international unit (IU) daily. The current price that is readily available is $11/IU for generic rHGH. A coupla dollars more for Lilly Humatrope, whic is mo better! So, $11 daily times.... jim Simon -the- Jester wrote: > > Jim, > > What is the monthly cost for the injections? > > > > Re: Parkinson Disease > > > Saul, > > > > When I was still on the Rejuvenation list there was a lot > of discussion > > about secretagogues (things that enduce secretion) and > whether or not > > the homeopathic ones were any good. The bottom line for > growth hormone > > secretagogues is the IGF-1 blood test. I won't personally > put stock in > > any particular brand of product that doesn't run a > before-and-after > > blood test on at least ten people. That would only cost > $1000 and would > > be a clear indication if the product they are selling > works. > > > > But, my doctor, Dr. , was then participating > in a study of a > > homeopathic product and he did say the results were > statistically > > significant in the positive. He wouldn't say more then > because it was > > prior to publication & it was a colleagues paper, not his. > So, I don't > > know to what degree a homeopathic releaser would raise > IGF-1 levels, but > > some is enough for most people. > > > > I had a concussion at age 5 that we now know injured my > pituitary. LAst > > year my baseline IGF-1 was 100, which is about that of an > unhealthy 85 > > year old. That is considered a disease level, and is why I > took the > > injections. I stopped last month, because I am too yellow > to go into the > > red for lack of green. ;-) I will start again soon when I > have some more > > money. It's a good idea to stop periodically anyway. > > > > I have noticed a lot of improvements in my body and its > health, and many > > things are better than before even after a month without > the injections. > > I don't seem to be backsliding much. > > > > As for the PArkinson's of Erma's friend. To my knowledge, > Parkinson's > > cannot be improved, because it is caused by lower dopamine > release due > > to destruction of the cells that produce it in the > substantia niger. > > But, the progression of the disease can be stopped or > significantly > > slowed and CES will help with the tremors, if needed. > > > > I think she should be taking deprenyl. Doctors in the US > do prescribe > > that, I believe. Dr. does telephone consultations > almost > > everywhere in the US if she wants another opinion. He is a > longevity > > specialist. IMO, they understand the hormone balances & > things that > > affect the brain the best. > > > > If it was me, I would also try lucidril to stop the > destruction of more > > of the dopamine producing cells by lipofuscin, hydergine > to attempt to > > recover some damaged neurons & piracetam to protect all > brain cells from > > further damage. > > > > jim > > > > Saul Pressman wrote: > > > > > > Dear Jim, > > > > > > Do you have any idea how GHIT (Growth Hormone Injection > Therapy) > > > compares with the results obtained from the homeopathic > growth hormone > > > products around. > > > > > > Best of Health! > > > Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh > > > > > > URL: http://www.plasmafire.com > > > email: saul@... > > > > > > > -------------------------- eGroups > Sponsor -------------------------~-~> > > Create your business web site your way now at Bigstep.com. > > It's the fast, easy way to get online, to promote your > business, > > and to sell your products and services. 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Guest guest Posted October 15, 2000 Report Share Posted October 15, 2000 Tijuana! I will explain this to you. You come back across and declare it. They ask what you need this for, You say age-related cerebral dysfunction. Case closed. Everybody over 30 sufferes from deterioration from cerebral dysfunction. For a more objective lesson, www.ceri.com has a list of interesting articles. One is about buying hGH in Mexico. If you can't find it come back and ask again. jim wrote: > > WHere Can I buy some?? > > Re: Re: HGH injections > > >, > > > >The usual dose for most folks is 1 international unit (IU) daily. The > >current price that is readily available is $11/IU for generic rHGH. A > >coupla dollars more for Lilly Humatrope, whic is mo better! > > > >So, $11 daily times.... > > > >jim > > > >Simon -the- Jester wrote: > >> > >> Jim, > >> > >> What is the monthly cost for the injections? > >> > >> > >> > >> Re: Parkinson Disease > >> > >> > Saul, > >> > > >> > When I was still on the Rejuvenation list there was a lot > >> of discussion > >> > about secretagogues (things that enduce secretion) and > >> whether or not > >> > the homeopathic ones were any good. The bottom line for > >> growth hormone > >> > secretagogues is the IGF-1 blood test. I won't personally > >> put stock in > >> > any particular brand of product that doesn't run a > >> before-and-after > >> > blood test on at least ten people. That would only cost > >> $1000 and would > >> > be a clear indication if the product they are selling > >> works. > >> > > >> > But, my doctor, Dr. , was then participating > >> in a study of a > >> > homeopathic product and he did say the results were > >> statistically > >> > significant in the positive. He wouldn't say more then > >> because it was > >> > prior to publication & it was a colleagues paper, not his. > >> So, I don't > >> > know to what degree a homeopathic releaser would raise > >> IGF-1 levels, but > >> > some is enough for most people. > >> > > >> > I had a concussion at age 5 that we now know injured my > >> pituitary. LAst > >> > year my baseline IGF-1 was 100, which is about that of an > >> unhealthy 85 > >> > year old. That is considered a disease level, and is why I > >> took the > >> > injections. I stopped last month, because I am too yellow > >> to go into the > >> > red for lack of green. ;-) I will start again soon when I > >> have some more > >> > money. It's a good idea to stop periodically anyway. > >> > > >> > I have noticed a lot of improvements in my body and its > >> health, and many > >> > things are better than before even after a month without > >> the injections. > >> > I don't seem to be backsliding much. > >> > > >> > As for the PArkinson's of Erma's friend. To my knowledge, > >> Parkinson's > >> > cannot be improved, because it is caused by lower dopamine > >> release due > >> > to destruction of the cells that produce it in the > >> substantia niger. > >> > But, the progression of the disease can be stopped or > >> significantly > >> > slowed and CES will help with the tremors, if needed. > >> > > >> > I think she should be taking deprenyl. Doctors in the US > >> do prescribe > >> > that, I believe. Dr. does telephone consultations > >> almost > >> > everywhere in the US if she wants another opinion. He is a > >> longevity > >> > specialist. IMO, they understand the hormone balances & > >> things that > >> > affect the brain the best. > >> > > >> > If it was me, I would also try lucidril to stop the > >> destruction of more > >> > of the dopamine producing cells by lipofuscin, hydergine > >> to attempt to > >> > recover some damaged neurons & piracetam to protect all > >> brain cells from > >> > further damage. > >> > > >> > jim > >> > > >> > Saul Pressman wrote: > >> > > > >> > > Dear Jim, > >> > > > >> > > Do you have any idea how GHIT (Growth Hormone Injection > >> Therapy) > >> > > compares with the results obtained from the homeopathic > >> growth hormone > >> > > products around. > >> > > > >> > > Best of Health! > >> > > Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh > >> > > > >> > > URL: http://www.plasmafire.com > >> > > email: saul@... > >> > > > >> > > >> > -------------------------- eGroups > >> Sponsor -------------------------~-~> > >> > Create your business web site your way now at Bigstep.com. > >> > It's the fast, easy way to get online, to promote your > >> business, > >> > and to sell your products and services. 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Guest guest Posted October 15, 2000 Report Share Posted October 15, 2000 , It is available in many pharmacies, from what I have encountered. We are talking about Mexico. Which means if the trade is legal every pharmacy will know about it, and some will offer a better price. For anyone buying in Mexico I recommend contacting Mssr. Toussier who is moderator of the Rejuvenation list. Join it for a while and get an education you need before beginning this therapy. There are many issues concerning cofactors that every patient needs to understand. For instance, you have to keep insulin down & testosterone up to maximize the benefits of the injections. And, daily exercise, too! The Rejuvenation list will educate you. Before you finish you will know what it can be had for across the border. Then it will be a matter of dickering. jim wrote: > > BUT where in MEXICO?? what Store? pharmacy > > Re: Re: HGH injections > >> > >> >, > >> > > >> >The usual dose for most folks is 1 international unit (IU) daily. The > >> >current price that is readily available is $11/IU for generic rHGH. A > >> >coupla dollars more for Lilly Humatrope, whic is mo better! > >> > > >> >So, $11 daily times.... > >> > > >> >jim > >> > > >> >Simon -the- Jester wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Jim, > >> >> > >> >> What is the monthly cost for the injections? > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Re: Parkinson Disease > >> >> > >> >> > Saul, > >> >> > > >> >> > When I was still on the Rejuvenation list there was a lot > >> >> of discussion > >> >> > about secretagogues (things that enduce secretion) and > >> >> whether or not > >> >> > the homeopathic ones were any good. The bottom line for > >> >> growth hormone > >> >> > secretagogues is the IGF-1 blood test. I won't personally > >> >> put stock in > >> >> > any particular brand of product that doesn't run a > >> >> before-and-after > >> >> > blood test on at least ten people. That would only cost > >> >> $1000 and would > >> >> > be a clear indication if the product they are selling > >> >> works. > >> >> > > >> >> > But, my doctor, Dr. , was then participating > >> >> in a study of a > >> >> > homeopathic product and he did say the results were > >> >> statistically > >> >> > significant in the positive. He wouldn't say more then > >> >> because it was > >> >> > prior to publication & it was a colleagues paper, not his. > >> >> So, I don't > >> >> > know to what degree a homeopathic releaser would raise > >> >> IGF-1 levels, but > >> >> > some is enough for most people. > >> >> > > >> >> > I had a concussion at age 5 that we now know injured my > >> >> pituitary. LAst > >> >> > year my baseline IGF-1 was 100, which is about that of an > >> >> unhealthy 85 > >> >> > year old. That is considered a disease level, and is why I > >> >> took the > >> >> > injections. I stopped last month, because I am too yellow > >> >> to go into the > >> >> > red for lack of green. ;-) I will start again soon when I > >> >> have some more > >> >> > money. It's a good idea to stop periodically anyway. > >> >> > > >> >> > I have noticed a lot of improvements in my body and its > >> >> health, and many > >> >> > things are better than before even after a month without > >> >> the injections. > >> >> > I don't seem to be backsliding much. > >> >> > > >> >> > As for the PArkinson's of Erma's friend. To my knowledge, > >> >> Parkinson's > >> >> > cannot be improved, because it is caused by lower dopamine > >> >> release due > >> >> > to destruction of the cells that produce it in the > >> >> substantia niger. > >> >> > But, the progression of the disease can be stopped or > >> >> significantly > >> >> > slowed and CES will help with the tremors, if needed. > >> >> > > >> >> > I think she should be taking deprenyl. Doctors in the US > >> >> do prescribe > >> >> > that, I believe. Dr. does telephone consultations > >> >> almost > >> >> > everywhere in the US if she wants another opinion. He is a > >> >> longevity > >> >> > specialist. IMO, they understand the hormone balances & > >> >> things that > >> >> > affect the brain the best. > >> >> > > >> >> > If it was me, I would also try lucidril to stop the > >> >> destruction of more > >> >> > of the dopamine producing cells by lipofuscin, hydergine > >> >> to attempt to > >> >> > recover some damaged neurons & piracetam to protect all > >> >> brain cells from > >> >> > further damage. > >> >> > > >> >> > jim > >> >> > > >> >> > Saul Pressman wrote: > >> >> > > > >> >> > > Dear Jim, > >> >> > > > >> >> > > Do you have any idea how GHIT (Growth Hormone Injection > >> >> Therapy) > >> >> > > compares with the results obtained from the homeopathic > >> >> growth hormone > >> >> > > products around. > >> >> > > > >> >> > > Best of Health! > >> >> > > Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh > >> >> > > > >> >> > > URL: http://www.plasmafire.com > >> >> > > email: saul@... > >> >> > > > >> >> > > >> >> > -------------------------- eGroups > >> >> Sponsor -------------------------~-~> > >> >> > Create your business web site your way now at Bigstep.com. > >> >> > It's the fast, easy way to get online, to promote your > >> >> business, > >> >> > and to sell your products and services. 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Guest guest Posted October 15, 2000 Report Share Posted October 15, 2000 jimi :-) is that the price in mexico? i sure hope not. Dennis A. : . A. : . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2000 Report Share Posted October 15, 2000 algadones below the most extreme south eastern tip of california is just one big drug, denture and liquor store practically. i live 1/2 mile from the border. viva mexico! Dennis A. : . A. : . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2000 Report Share Posted October 15, 2000 I quoted no price in Mexico. jim superflous1@... wrote: > > jimi :-) > is that the price in mexico? > i sure hope not. > > Dennis > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2000 Report Share Posted October 15, 2000 oh happy day :-D that bodes well for my being able to afford the stuff. i found the rejuvenation list, i had it spelled wrong. Dennis A. : . A. : . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2003 Report Share Posted August 6, 2003 hi Carol, I have had IAGH(www.iagh.com). subjectively I am improved, and my level of activity is higher than before. I have no objective evidence though. I recently got a questionnaire from Dr. Dunn. Basically, a how are you doing type questionnaire. I indicated that I'd like some type of objective evidence. yesterday I got a prescription for an MRI. I'm on vacation next week, but within a few weeks I will get one. I'm honestly a little nervous as to what the MRI will show. I honestly don't feel that my knee is 100% healed, but it is improved. I probably could've used a few more injections, but being from Boston that simply wasn't a possibility. stay tuned. talk to you later, Chuck HGH Injections > Has anyone had the HGH Injections I keep hearing about. Has it > helped? I have arthritis and I'd like to have it done, but I'd like > to hear that it worked on someone first. > > Carol > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2003 Report Share Posted August 6, 2003 chuck, how many injections did you end up getting? let me know how the MRI turns out. rob > hi Carol, > I have had IAGH(www.iagh.com). subjectively I am improved, and my level > of activity is higher than before. I have no objective evidence though. I > recently got a questionnaire from Dr. Dunn. Basically, a how are you doing > type questionnaire. I indicated that I'd like some type of objective > evidence. yesterday I got a prescription for an MRI. I'm on vacation next > week, but within a few weeks I will get one. I'm honestly a little nervous > as to what the MRI will show. I honestly don't feel that my knee is 100% > healed, but it is improved. I probably could've used a few more > injections, but being from Boston that simply wasn't a possibility. stay > tuned. > talk to you later, > Chuck > HGH Injections > > > > Has anyone had the HGH Injections I keep hearing about. Has it > > helped? I have arthritis and I'd like to have it done, but I'd like > > to hear that it worked on someone first. > > > > Carol > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2003 Report Share Posted August 6, 2003 4. I remember reading about, and spoke to a couple people who had 7-8. MRI results will probably be in some time in September, I probably won't get it for 2 weeks or so. did you start on the other leg yet? HGH Injections > > > > > > > Has anyone had the HGH Injections I keep hearing about. Has it > > > helped? I have arthritis and I'd like to have it done, but I'd > like > > > to hear that it worked on someone first. > > > > > > Carol > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2003 Report Share Posted August 6, 2003 i have the other knee done on 8/28 rob > > > hi Carol, > > > I have had IAGH(www.iagh.com). subjectively I am improved, and > > my level > > > of activity is higher than before. I have no objective evidence > > though. I > > > recently got a questionnaire from Dr. Dunn. Basically, a how are > > you doing > > > type questionnaire. I indicated that I'd like some type of > > objective > > > evidence. yesterday I got a prescription for an MRI. I'm on > > vacation next > > > week, but within a few weeks I will get one. I'm honestly a little > > nervous > > > as to what the MRI will show. I honestly don't feel that my knee > > is 100% > > > healed, but it is improved. I probably could've used a few more > > > injections, but being from Boston that simply wasn't a > > possibility. stay > > > tuned. > > > talk to you later, > > > Chuck > > > HGH Injections > > > > > > > > > > Has anyone had the HGH Injections I keep hearing about. Has it > > > > helped? I have arthritis and I'd like to have it done, but I'd > > like > > > > to hear that it worked on someone first. > > > > > > > > Carol > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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