Dentist question

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In a message dated 10/10/00 10:49:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

Hepatitis CinAZ@... writes:

<< While reading Connie's e-mail I was very interested in the part about her

dentist.

I too have my dentist telling me he will not treat me until I am off combo

and my bleed time is reduced. I called 8 other dentists on my insurance

plan

and they all refused to take on a new patient with Hep C/medical problems.

My question is:

How many other patient's dental problems are being ignored, and how many

other Hepatitis C patients are having their teeth rot in their heads?

Let me know! Tell my your story! >>

Dear Sharon,

There is a reason for the dentists' attitude. Most people, myself included

have very low platelet counts. Dentist's offices are not equipped to deal

with a bleeding out patient. Consequently, they don't want to take on the

responsibility.

Some hospitals have dental clinics within the hospital, so that if you do

start bleeding they have resources to work with. I waited to go to my

dentist until after my platelet count went above 140. That's low, but better

than 82.

Hope this helps.

Anne

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In a message dated 10/10/00 10:49:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

Hepatitis CinAZ@... writes:

<< While reading Connie's e-mail I was very interested in the part about her

dentist.

I too have my dentist telling me he will not treat me until I am off combo

and my bleed time is reduced. I called 8 other dentists on my insurance

plan

and they all refused to take on a new patient with Hep C/medical problems.

My question is:

How many other patient's dental problems are being ignored, and how many

other Hepatitis C patients are having their teeth rot in their heads?

Let me know! Tell my your story! >>

Dear Sharon,

There is a reason for the dentists' attitude. Most people, myself included

have very low platelet counts. Dentist's offices are not equipped to deal

with a bleeding out patient. Consequently, they don't want to take on the

responsibility.

Some hospitals have dental clinics within the hospital, so that if you do

start bleeding they have resources to work with. I waited to go to my

dentist until after my platelet count went above 140. That's low, but better

than 82.

Hope this helps.

Anne

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Sharon mine is partly due to financial state so I can

not blame a dentisit....LOL....I will rent my room out

for less than a Dentist , no pain just gone when you

wakr up...I am still in a state of wonder from it....I

am not making this up! It is really Weird...Take

Care, Connie

--- Hepatitis CinAZ@... wrote:

>

> Greetings everyone!

>

> While reading Connie's e-mail I was very interested

> in the part about her

> dentist.

>

> I too have my dentist telling me he will not treat

> me until I am off combo

> and my bleed time is reduced. I called 8 other

> dentists on my insurance plan

> and they all refused to take on a new patient with

> Hep C/medical problems.

>

> My question is:

>

> How many other patient's dental problems are being

> ignored, and how many

> other Hepatitis C patients are having their teeth

> rot in their heads?

>

> Let me know! Tell my your story!

>

> Sharon Nicholson

>

> Hepatitis Education & Patient Coalition (H. E. P. C.

> in AZ)

> Executive Director

>

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Sharon mine is partly due to financial state so I can

not blame a dentisit....LOL....I will rent my room out

for less than a Dentist , no pain just gone when you

wakr up...I am still in a state of wonder from it....I

am not making this up! It is really Weird...Take

Care, Connie

--- Hepatitis CinAZ@... wrote:

>

> Greetings everyone!

>

> While reading Connie's e-mail I was very interested

> in the part about her

> dentist.

>

> I too have my dentist telling me he will not treat

> me until I am off combo

> and my bleed time is reduced. I called 8 other

> dentists on my insurance plan

> and they all refused to take on a new patient with

> Hep C/medical problems.

>

> My question is:

>

> How many other patient's dental problems are being

> ignored, and how many

> other Hepatitis C patients are having their teeth

> rot in their heads?

>

> Let me know! Tell my your story!

>

> Sharon Nicholson

>

> Hepatitis Education & Patient Coalition (H. E. P. C.

> in AZ)

> Executive Director

>

> <A

>

HREF= " http://www.suite101.com/welcome.cfm/hepatitis_abc " >Hepatitis

> A, B,

> C's - Editor</A>

> http://www.suite101.com/welcome.cfm/hepatitis_abc

>

> Are you in ARIZONA?

> Then Join our e-group mailing list online!

> <A

>

HREF= " ArizonaHepatitis C " >eGroups

> :

> ArizonaHepatitis C</A>

> ArizonaHepatitis C

>

> PS: Smiling releases tension and stress!

> But beware ... it can be contagious!

>

__________________________________________________

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Good question Sharon!

Several years ago, when I changed dentists when I moved across town

to marry hubby, I told his dentist I had hep C. Dentist calls doc,

doc's office says no hep C. Would someone lie about that? sheesh

So now I got insurance again and I'd like to have my teeth cleaned at

least. I haven't tried going to dentist yet. Should I bother to tell

him AGAIN I have hep and I'm on treatment?

My labwork even in the 5th month is all normal, nothing has changed

drastically so I shouldn't have to worry about bleeding etc. But

still he should know. Docs are so stubborn sometimes ya know?

I hope I don't have that problem! good luck

[Guest guest]

Good question Sharon!

Several years ago, when I changed dentists when I moved across town

to marry hubby, I told his dentist I had hep C. Dentist calls doc,

doc's office says no hep C. Would someone lie about that? sheesh

So now I got insurance again and I'd like to have my teeth cleaned at

least. I haven't tried going to dentist yet. Should I bother to tell

him AGAIN I have hep and I'm on treatment?

My labwork even in the 5th month is all normal, nothing has changed

drastically so I shouldn't have to worry about bleeding etc. But

still he should know. Docs are so stubborn sometimes ya know?

I hope I don't have that problem! good luck

[Guest guest]

Good question Sharon!

Several years ago, when I changed dentists when I moved across town

to marry hubby, I told his dentist I had hep C. Dentist calls doc,

doc's office says no hep C. Would someone lie about that? sheesh

So now I got insurance again and I'd like to have my teeth cleaned at

least. I haven't tried going to dentist yet. Should I bother to tell

him AGAIN I have hep and I'm on treatment?

My labwork even in the 5th month is all normal, nothing has changed

drastically so I shouldn't have to worry about bleeding etc. But

still he should know. Docs are so stubborn sometimes ya know?

I hope I don't have that problem! good luck

[Guest guest]

Good question Sharon!

Several years ago, when I changed dentists when I moved across town

to marry hubby, I told his dentist I had hep C. Dentist calls doc,

doc's office says no hep C. Would someone lie about that? sheesh

So now I got insurance again and I'd like to have my teeth cleaned at

least. I haven't tried going to dentist yet. Should I bother to tell

him AGAIN I have hep and I'm on treatment?

My labwork even in the 5th month is all normal, nothing has changed

drastically so I shouldn't have to worry about bleeding etc. But

still he should know. Docs are so stubborn sometimes ya know?

I hope I don't have that problem! good luck

[Guest guest]

Sharon,

I have a WONDERFUL dentist who said he would not even consider NOT treating

me. In fact, everytime I have an appointment, he spends the first 10 minutes

asking me how I am doing, how the treatment is going and what can HE do for

ME!!!!! He shows genuine concern, and said he is not worried about

" catching " anything from me, because he wears gloves, etc. as he does with

EVERYONE!!!

I am soo lucky to have such a great dentist!

STAYING POSITIVE,

Lora

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Sharon,

I have a WONDERFUL dentist who said he would not even consider NOT treating

me. In fact, everytime I have an appointment, he spends the first 10 minutes

asking me how I am doing, how the treatment is going and what can HE do for

ME!!!!! He shows genuine concern, and said he is not worried about

" catching " anything from me, because he wears gloves, etc. as he does with

EVERYONE!!!

I am soo lucky to have such a great dentist!

STAYING POSITIVE,

Lora

[Guest guest]

Sharon,

I have a WONDERFUL dentist who said he would not even consider NOT treating

me. In fact, everytime I have an appointment, he spends the first 10 minutes

asking me how I am doing, how the treatment is going and what can HE do for

ME!!!!! He shows genuine concern, and said he is not worried about

" catching " anything from me, because he wears gloves, etc. as he does with

EVERYONE!!!

I am soo lucky to have such a great dentist!

STAYING POSITIVE,

Lora

[Guest guest]

Sharon,

I have a WONDERFUL dentist who said he would not even consider NOT treating

me. In fact, everytime I have an appointment, he spends the first 10 minutes

asking me how I am doing, how the treatment is going and what can HE do for

ME!!!!! He shows genuine concern, and said he is not worried about

" catching " anything from me, because he wears gloves, etc. as he does with

EVERYONE!!!

I am soo lucky to have such a great dentist!

STAYING POSITIVE,

Lora

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Lorad8@... writes:

<< I am soo lucky to have such a great dentist! >>

Yes, you are! I'm coming over there! But with my luck in dentists, he's

probably not on my insurance list of providers!

Sharon Nicholson

Hepatitis Education & Patient Coalition (H. E. P. C. in AZ)

Executive Director

<A HREF= " http://www.suite101.com/welcome.cfm/hepatitis_abc " >Hepatitis A, B,

C's - Editor</A>

http://www.suite101.com/welcome.cfm/hepatitis_abc

Are you in ARIZONA?

Then Join our e-group mailing list online!

<A HREF= " ArizonaHepatitis C " >eGroups :

ArizonaHepatitis C</A>

ArizonaHepatitis C

PS: Smiling releases tension and stress!

But beware ... it can be contagious!

[Guest guest]

Sharon, sounds like you have the same kind of luck that I have. LOL .

However, I really struck gold with my dentist!!!!!

Good luck,

Lora

[Guest guest]

Sharon, sounds like you have the same kind of luck that I have. LOL .

However, I really struck gold with my dentist!!!!!

Good luck,

Lora

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" pjeanneus " <pj7@...> wrote:

> Has anyone on this list been to Dr. Hussar in Reno? What was your

> experience?

> a

Stopped by and talked to him a couple of years ago.

Looked like he was good for cavitational osteonecrosis.

I asked him if he was familiar with the MP and he said no.

When I suggested that this might be of some interest, he said he

wasn't interested, that he had Lida's book and that was all he needed

to know.

When I pushed a bit and said that TM's concepts were worthy of

investigation, he called me " arrogant " and " You're just an ordinary

patient - you don't tell me what to investigate " , even though I wasn't

even a patient.

But thanks to that attitude, I decided not to become one.

-

[Guest guest]

Thanks, . None of this pushes me to take an 8 hour drive across

the desert. I will just gamble some more with the docs here in Vegas.

a

>

> " pjeanneus " <pj7@> wrote:

> > Has anyone on this list been to Dr. Hussar in Reno? What was your

> > experience?

> > a

>

>

> Stopped by and talked to him a couple of years ago.

> Looked like he was good for cavitational osteonecrosis.

> I asked him if he was familiar with the MP and he said no.

> When I suggested that this might be of some interest, he said he

> wasn't interested, that he had Lida's book and that was all he

needed

> to know.

> When I pushed a bit and said that TM's concepts were worthy of

> investigation, he called me " arrogant " and " You're just an ordinary

> patient - you don't tell me what to investigate " , even though I

wasn't

> even a patient.

> But thanks to that attitude, I decided not to become one.

> -

>

[Guest guest]

So, I went to the dentist for a deep cleaning of my gums. After years

of compulsive overeating, soda drinking, too much sugar, etc., the

damage has been done. I've almost been " clean " for nearly a year with

my food, on a candida free program and have enjoyed feeling better for

the first time in years.

So the hygenist wants to give me antibiotics inside these capsules

below the gum line because she says my decay is getting to close to

the bone, and I'm going to lose more structure if I don't get rid of

the bacteria. I said I'm opposed to an antibiotic because I've had

problems in the past, my digestive system is finally healing and I

don't want it. Is there an alternative, I asked.

First I got the old, no one else has ever had a problem with it. Then

I got the reason that since I'm not ingesting it through my stomach,

it's not " systematic " (whatever that means) and it's only going to

affect my gums, not my entire body. Well, that just didn't feel right

and I said no. Then she checked to see if my insurance would cover it

and they charge $80 per tooth, so it would've been over $600. My

insurance would've paid $300. I said no. Can't afford it. Oh yes, I

asked her what the antibiotic was, and was told it's tetracycline.

Years ago I used this and it turned 2 of my teeth dark brown. No way

ever again.

Then I asked if I could just use a water pick with hydrogen perioxide

and she said no that won't get rid of the bacteria.

Does anyone know or have any suggestions? I'm trying to stay clean

with my food and really do not want any antibiotics unless it's

absolutely necessary. Did I do the right thing? Well, besides not

going into debt (oh yeah, they offered to " finance " it for me).

At this point, I'm not going back because it feels like they're trying

to hose me. They were going to also replace all my crowns and fillings

with porcelain instead the mercury-amalgam(?) that I have now. I know

I need to get rid of the mercury, too but something just doesn't seem

right here.

Suzie

[Guest guest]

I've had that procedure done, and let me tell you, I never get yeast

infections when on oral antibiotics, but this one gave me one! She is lying

or doesn't know anything.

Amalgam removal is good, but they have to be done the proper way, otherwise

the mercury could end up in your system. Here's the protocol:

http://www.holisticmed.com/dental/amalgam/iaomt.txt

Technically they should be replaced by a qualified and equipped dentist:

http://www.iaomt.org/patients/search.aspx

Since I've heard they can charge a ton, I talked to my regular dentist to

see if he can implememt some of the protocols, and he was very willing. I

had one out of 7 replaced already. There are supplements you can take before

and after the removal so your body can eliminate it naturally (some might

still end up in your blood/organs/brain). They're Vitamin C and selenium.

That's it.

I think the peroxide problem is that long-term use (or high concentration)

can cause damage to teeth and gums. I think they're fine as long as you

don't overdo it. LMK how it goes - I do have permanent bone loss on some

molars due to not going to the dentist for cleaning for over a decade. I do

use a Braun electric toothbrush which gets rid of most buildup and tartar. I

also get my teeth cleaned 3 times a year which helps a lot. You might want

to go 4 times a year to see if you see any improvement. That's the first

step your hygenist/dentist needs to suggest.

I even tried tea tree oil as it's a good natural antibacterial. I put a drop

or 2 into my fluoride mouth wash. I'm not sure if it did anything though.

I'm also thinking grapefruit seed extract, oil of oregano, or olive leaf

extract would help. You could consult a holistic dentist or physician.

[Guest guest]

To clean out the bacteria, swish daily with a mixture of coconut oil and a few

drops of clove oil for five minutes several times a day.

Luv, Debby in San , CA

147 lbs lost! Student: Nutrition Certification and PhD in Psychology

Group: curingcandida/

Website: http://www.naturallythriving.com

----- Original Message ----

> From: soozberg

>

> So, I went to the dentist for a deep cleaning of my gums. After years

> of compulsive overeating, soda drinking, too much sugar, etc., the

> damage has been done. I've almost been " clean " for nearly a year with

> my food, on a candida free program and have enjoyed feeling better for

> the first time in years.

>

> So the hygenist wants to give me antibiotics inside these capsules

> below the gum line because she says my decay is getting to close to

> the bone, and I'm going to lose more structure if I don't get rid of

> the bacteria. I said I'm opposed to an antibiotic because I've had

> problems in the past, my digestive system is finally healing and I

> don't want it. Is there an alternative, I asked.

>

> First I got the old, no one else has ever had a problem with it. Then

> I got the reason that since I'm not ingesting it through my stomach,

> it's not " systematic " (whatever that means) and it's only going to

> affect my gums, not my entire body. Well, that just didn't feel right

> and I said no. Then she checked to see if my insurance would cover it

> and they charge $80 per tooth, so it would've been over $600. My

> insurance would've paid $300. I said no. Can't afford it. Oh yes, I

> asked her what the antibiotic was, and was told it's tetracycline.

> Years ago I used this and it turned 2 of my teeth dark brown. No way

> ever again.

[Guest guest]

Wow! Thanks you guys!

I'm going to try the oil pulling and see what happens. In the

meantime, I'm going to also look for a new dentist. Maybe one day

we'll have decent health coverage here in the US.

Question about the coconut oil: mine is hard, not liquid. Do I have to

heat it up? I suppose microwaving it would be bad. How much should I

use of the coconut oil.

Thanks!

Suzie