Guest guest Posted November 6, 2002 Report Share Posted November 6, 2002 In a message dated 11/6/2002 9:01:29 AM Eastern Standard Time, mvlittle@... writes: > Reverse Osmosis removes absolutely everything including all the minerals for > water. I wonder if the reverse osmosis water we get out of the machine at the HFS has minerals added back in because it tastes great. Jo A " Mom on a Mission for Autism " <A HREF= " www.momsonamissionforautism.org " >www.momsonamissionforautism.org</A> Representative for Unlocking Autism in South Carolina <A HREF= " www.unlockingautism.org " >www.unlockingautism.org</A> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2002 Report Share Posted November 6, 2002 In a message dated 11/6/2002 11:09:55 AM Eastern Standard Time, mvlittle@... writes: > What is HFS? What kind of machine? Is it like a water cooler? Some water > coolers do add minerals but that is the most expensive water, troublesome > to > change the gallon jug and I " hear " that the purity or the water is not what > it should be HFS - Health Food Store. It's a huge reverse osmosis machine and you take gallon jugs and fill them up. You can choose reverse osmosis with unfluoridated water also. It's only 39 cents a gallon so no big deal to fill up about 8 jugs every couple of weeks. Jo A " Mom on a Mission for Autism " <A HREF= " www.momsonamissionforautism.org " >www.momsonamissionforautism.org</A> Representative for Unlocking Autism in South Carolina <A HREF= " www.unlockingautism.org " >www.unlockingautism.org</A> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2002 Report Share Posted November 6, 2002 Dear Debbie, Reverse Osmosis removes absolutely everything including all the minerals for water. If you decide to purchase one the whole family should take liquid minerals daily to replenish your body of these minerals because the water when you drink it will actually grab the minerals out of your cells in an effort to replace the minerals back into the water. There are other more mechanical reasons that I am against reverse osmosis besides the price. Distilled water is also dead water. It also lacks minerals. Bottled water if in plastic containers leaches plastic into the water when stored in the plastic for a long time or if exposed to high temperatures. Did you know that Aquafina is bottled tap water from the Bronx? Their is no regulation or standards for bottled water so you never know form one bottle to the next what the quality of the water will be. The best system in my opinion is a system that filters down to at least .2 microns and then adds minerals back into the water before you drink it. If you would like further info on this feel free to e mail me or check my web site below. I have tons of research posted on water and other informative info. ellen V. Little Wellness Consultant mvlittle@... www.maryellenvlittle.com (866)215-3966-Toll Free (716) 634-1771 Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 22:39:39 -0000 From: " bluerus2001 " <bluerus@...> Subject: OT:Reverse Osmosis Water System~Andy, can you help... I just installed new copper pipes in my home and now I need to purchase a under cabinet water filter system that removes the copper and other toxins. Somewhere I heard that REVERSE OSMOSIS was not good for our children with Autism. I'm not sure why. Anyone with info on this? Thanks, DebbieG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2002 Report Share Posted November 6, 2002 What is HFS? What kind of machine? Is it like a water cooler? Some water coolers do add minerals but that is the most expensive water, troublesome to change the gallon jug and I " hear " that the purity or the water is not what it should be. ellen V. Little Wellness Consultant mvlittle@... www.maryellenvlittle.com (866)215-3966-Toll Free (716) 634-1771 Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 09:05:09 EST From: JPiker@... Subject: Re: Reverse Osmosis In a message dated 11/6/2002 9:01:29 AM Eastern Standard Time, mvlittle@... writes: > Reverse Osmosis removes absolutely everything including all the minerals for > water. I wonder if the reverse osmosis water we get out of the machine at the HFS has minerals added back in because it tastes great. Jo A " Mom on a Mission for Autism " <A HREF= " www.momsonamissionforautism.org " >www.momsonamissionforautism.org</A> Representative for Unlocking Autism in South Carolina <A HREF= " www.unlockingautism.org " >www.unlockingautism.org</A> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2002 Report Share Posted November 6, 2002 ---You can also get reverse osmosis water at Wal-Mart, and most supermarkets. I believe they are now available for home installation. Lindy ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~ In @y..., JPiker@a... wrote: > In a message dated 11/6/2002 11:09:55 AM Eastern Standard Time, > mvlittle@a... writes: > > > What is HFS? What kind of machine? Is it like a water cooler? Some water > > coolers do add minerals but that is the most expensive water, troublesome > > to > > change the gallon jug and I " hear " that the purity or the water is not what > > it should be > > HFS - Health Food Store. It's a huge reverse osmosis machine and you take > gallon jugs and fill them up. You can choose reverse osmosis with > unfluoridated water also. It's only 39 cents a gallon so no big deal to fill > up about 8 jugs every couple of weeks. > > Jo > A " Mom on a Mission for Autism " > <A HREF= " www.momsonamissionforautism.org " >www.momsonamissionforautism.org </A> > Representative for Unlocking Autism in South Carolina > <A HREF= " www.unlockingautism.org " >www.unlockingautism.org</A> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2002 Report Share Posted November 6, 2002 ----- What is HFS? >>>>>>> Health Food Store I buy Smart Water or Aqua Fina, Dansani, or the Wal-Mart Brand. They are all purified. No way would I drink town or city water again since my amalgams were removed and went back into the towns water system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2003 Report Share Posted July 28, 2003 Reverse Osmosis: 5 gallons to make one gallon. We use ours for just cooking and drinking. Water System makes one. We bought a new one at Lowe's for $200 recently (Watts Premier : www.wattspremier.com). We also hooked it up to our ice maker and it's great. We haven't had tap water in over 10 years. 10 years ago they cost about $700. We replaced ours because of the cost of new replacement filters and the age of our old system. I can tell the difference in the water we drink. It does make a difference. Perhaps others on the list can help with leads to a bath filter system? Thanks. J > Hi, > If my water tested in the " yellow " for lead content, am I correct in > assuming that a water filtration system will get rid of it? > Can lead get into the body through bath water? > I also assume that a reverse osmosis water filtration system > is " best " for this type situation. Comments? > Can anyone direct me to a reputable dealer/manufacturer of a reverse > osmosis water filtration system? > Many thanks, > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2003 Report Share Posted July 28, 2003 Thanks for your time, ! :-) J > www.Gaiam.com and www.Realgoods.com have shower and tub filters. > S > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2003 Report Share Posted July 28, 2003 www.Gaiam.com and www.Realgoods.com have shower and tub filters. S Perhaps others on the list can help with leads to a bath filter system? <BR> Thanks.<BR> J =======================================================<BR> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2003 Report Share Posted July 28, 2003 Hi, We have lead pipes. I had our filtered (not reverse osmosis) drinking water tested for lead and it was not detected. I don't know whether other filters would achieve the same and I am still concerned about the bath water. Dagmar. [ ] reverse osmosis Hi, If my water tested in the " yellow " for lead content, am I correct in assuming that a water filtration system will get rid of it? Can lead get into the body through bath water? I also assume that a reverse osmosis water filtration system is " best " for this type situation. Comments? Can anyone direct me to a reputable dealer/manufacturer of a reverse osmosis water filtration system? Many thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2003 Report Share Posted July 30, 2003 ---You can get whole house reverse osmosis systems. Du-mor makes one. The company here in the Tampa Bay area is Mermaid water systems. --------------------------------------------------------------------- In , " Shepard " <_Shepard@e...> wrote: > > www.Gaiam.com and www.Realgoods.com have shower and tub filters. > S > > > > > > Perhaps others on the list can help with leads to a bath filter system? <BR> > Thanks.<BR> > J > =======================================================<BR> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2005 Report Share Posted August 29, 2005 Here is something from the link I sent earlier today. I'd heard it was greater than half wasted but I was only willing to go 50%. Guess I was wrong, it is even more. What I didn't know was that the flushed water is so contaminated. I'll include the rest of the RO info. Kit "Another problem with reverse osmosis is it wastes a tremendous amount of water. Only a small percentage of the water that enters the filter passes through. The rest is flushed out and wasted, unless it can be recovered. However, the waste water is far more contaminated and therefore hard to recycle or reuse. " "..... bottled ice tea and others are often made with reverse osmosis water. This is an inferior water and also does not count as your water for the day. " Reverse Osmosis. This method involves passing water at high pressure through a plastic membrane with tiny holes in it. Most substances are too large to pass through the membrane and remain behind. The design includes a way of back flushing the membrane to prevent excessive buildup of solid matter on the membrane. Reverse osmosis units also contain carbon pre- and post-filters. The pre-filter extends the life of the membrane by removing larger particles and certain chemicals. The post-filter further purifies the water, removing chlorine and other gases that may pass through the filter. Reverse osmosis and deionization are used in most commercial "drinking water" facilities, water stores, supermarket machines and bottling plants for soda pop, juices, beer and many other drinks. It is much cheaper than distillation. Membrane technology continues to advance, enhancing the amount of water that can be produced per hour and lengthening the life of the membrane. However, eventually the holes in the membrane become too large, or become clogged and it must be replaced. One can test this to some degree with a total dissolved solid (TDS) meter. However, the reading is only a general indicator of the integrity of the membrane. There is no simple way to test the quality of the water. This means that one¹s water may or may not be as pure as one thinks. Also, the carbon filters become contaminated, as discussed above. Manufacturers suggest replacing the carbon filters at specified intervals or after a certain number of gallons have been produced. However, these are just averages. Other than the taste, it is most difficult to assess the cleanliness of the carbon filters. Reverse osmosis also does much more damage to the water. The interaction of the water with the plastic membrane alters the spin and moment of the water. A sensitive person will notice that reverse osmosis water has a slightly different texture or feeling than either spring or distilled water. Also, deuterium particles (heavy water) passes through the membrane easily. Lighter water that is bound to contaminants is stopped. The effect is to increase the weight of the water, an undesirable change. Reverse osmosis water also produces a water with very low mineral content and a more acid pH.. As with distilled water, it is a hungry water that leaches minerals from the body and does not supply needed nutrient minerals. As with distilled water, it should be used, if at all, for only limited periods of time for detoxification. Another problem with reverse osmosis is it wastes a tremendous amount of water. Only a small percentage of the water that enters the filter passes through. The rest is flushed out and wasted, unless it can be recovered. However, the waste water is far more contaminated and therefore hard to recycle or reuse. Another problem with reverse osmosis is the longevity of the plastics used in the membrane. The polycarbonate plastics degrade slowly in the landfills. Filled with toxic substances, they represent as source of long-term pollution. Extremely high-temperature incineration, which is gaining in popularity, is a much better form of disposal of the membranes. http://www.drlwilson.com/Articles/water.htm "RO systems are not normally "water efficient" and wastewater rejected by the system may be significant. Purchase and installation costs can be significant. RO membrane are notoriously prone to scale and bacterial build-ups and ruptures. Slime-forming bacteria can cause rapid deterioration of performance. If you own a Doulton filter you'll know what "slime-forming bacteria" is. When you clean the ceramic candle it is the pinkish slippery bio-film that built up on the surface slowing your filter flow rate." " RO water lacks minerals and oxygen, hence the "flat", "stale" taste when used for drinking." http://doultonusa.com/HTML%20pages/water_treatment_technologies.htm#ro more..... Find out why reverse osmosis is not the complete answer to water filtration! Consuming only reverse osmosis water can be a health hazard! Health Harzard Reverse Osmosis Reverse Osmosis - Overview While the basic filtering level of Reverse Osmosis is great, it leaves several things to be desired. They are; Removes vital nutrients that are needed by our bodies. Reverse Osmosis membranes are degraded quickly by Bacteria and other biological pathogens in the water. More info on this below. Creates what is known as hungry water, highly pure water that will eat anything that it comes into contact with. This includes the vital minerals in our bodies and the pipes, storage tanks, even your glass that you drink from [if you drink from plastic, that means petrol chemicals in your water]. Both the toxins leached from containers and the mineral robbing capabilities of basic R/O water can lead to health problems and possible thereby to an early death. Standard Reverse Osmosis systems lacks a high concentration of the desirable things in water such as the elements of life known to science as ORME "Orbitally Rearranged Monoatomic Elements" , Metal Ion's, Monoatomic elements [some times referred to as Ormus or M-State] and other vital nutrients. http://miraculewater.com/WaterLibrary/RO.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2005 Report Share Posted August 29, 2005 Shari, I'm not looking for a fight, here. But, hey girl, you can dish it out but not take it???!!! All those alarms you send out..... Hmmm, welp, I guess it doesn't feel so good to hear bad news, then. I made a simple factual statement that RO wastes water....the other dangers of RO are new to me. In fact, I guess I/we should thank you since I never would have known that RO has so many more downsides...and is a " hungry water " just like distilled. It helped me on my question of the whole hungry water issue, as well. So this has all been very helpful to me. I won't be getting rid of my stove...yet....and you certainly can keep your RO. I would never be so brash as to suggest you trash it...we all make our own choices. I only look to inform....just like you. Anyway...thanks for helping out on this one, Kit PS. We just probably take any more of this offlist. > Okay Kit, here's the deal. You get rid of your stove and I'll get rid of my ro. > > Shari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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