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Hi Milena

Years ago I found I was reacting to homemade chocolate chip cookies. It was

either the shortening or the wheat used that was setting me off. Everyday

usually mid afternoon the dreadful mood would seep into my consciousness and it

would be all I could think about. This lasted for a couple monthes at least.

At the back of my mind I didn't want to end it. I had always thought that if

you change your situation then things will get better. It is better to run away

somewhere and see if things change I thought. Things were going okay for me so

why the incessant need to pull the plug...and it was a severe need to do

this...probably like what you are going through right now. Anyway I read a book

discussing brain allergy symptoms linked to certain foods we eat. So I stopped

eating these cookies and a few other things and viola the issues started lifting

even the depression that I was feeling at the time.

The main foods to beware of are wheat and other gluten grained foods, chocolate,

milk products (even a quarter ounce cream in your coffea), corn. There are

quite a number of others from peanuts to certain vegetables for some people.

I hope this helps.

Willem

>

> Does anyone here have EXTREME reactions to foods, body products, etc. to the

> point of it making you irritable, VERY anxious or suicidal?  Please tell me

any

> similar experiences and how you handled them.  I felt like following through

on

> my suicidal thoughts yesterday as a result of a bad reaction to something.  I

> feel like I'll lose the only positive thing in my life....my boyfriend.  I'm

> scared.

>

> Milena

>

>

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Yes. It's important to remember that the feeling is not real and just a trick

of your brain chemistry. I would suggest you read Ross's books, The Diet

Cure and The Mood Cure and have your boyfriend read An Alternative Approach to

Allergies which explains and gives case studies of this. You should be able to

figure out how to fix this issue with amino acids but obviously avoiding the

substance is important too.

EFT can really help with this. A good liver cleanse also since our emotions are

stored there. Sorry I'm in a bit of a hurry this morning but didn't want to

forget to post. If you need some resources I can get you some tomorrow.

BTW, birth control pills can cause this too.

Sharon

> > I agree with WIL! EVEN if it is to " test and spit out, " the amount

recommended

> >by MMGM to play with of the MMS seems EXTREME! The directions in the kit

booklet

> >indicate just a couple of DROPS to brush your teeth with, for example..

Follow

> >Doc Wil's instructions is what I say..

> >

> >

> > Hoping this helps.

> > ~Louise

>

>

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Willem,

Wow, it's so nice to hear I am not alone. I know what you are talking

about.......Dr. refers to this as a cerebral allergy. Very common if you

are also suffering from adrenal fatigue, which I am. I have stopped eating

sugar, milk (accept for kefir and greek yogurt), soy, gluten, corn, nuts, etc.

I do not mix my proteins with carbohydrates because I know that they are

processed at different rates which causes fermentation in the body, thus feeding

the candida. I have only found 1 restaurant so far where I can eat without

breaking out in hives or becoming agitated, socially uncomfortable and

depressed. I never know when something will make me feel bad. In addition, my

outdoor allergies affect my mood so badly that I don't want to go outside. I

get VERY anxious and uncomfortable around other people. It's just overwhelming.

I'd like to hear what you have been going through and what's working. Thank you

for taking the time to respond. It's great knowing there are people out there

that understand. I don't personally know anyone going thru what I do and it's

hard when people look at you like your crazy.

Sincerely,

Milena

________________________________

From: etherial <solarplanet75@...>

candidiasis

Sent: Thu, April 21, 2011 9:54:56 AM

Subject: Re: Extreme reactions -- suicidal

Hi Milena

Years ago I found I was reacting to homemade chocolate chip cookies. It was

either the shortening or the wheat used that was setting me off. Everyday

usually mid afternoon the dreadful mood would seep into my consciousness and it

would be all I could think about. This lasted for a couple monthes at least.

At the back of my mind I didn't want to end it. I had always thought that if

you change your situation then things will get better. It is better to run away

somewhere and see if things change I thought. Things were going okay for me so

why the incessant need to pull the plug...and it was a severe need to do

this...probably like what you are going through right now. Anyway I read a book

discussing brain allergy symptoms linked to certain foods we eat. So I stopped

eating these cookies and a few other things and viola the issues started lifting

even the depression that I was feeling at the time.

The main foods to beware of are wheat and other gluten grained foods, chocolate,

milk products (even a quarter ounce cream in your coffea), corn. There are

quite a number of others from peanuts to certain vegetables for some people.

I hope this helps.

Willem

>

> Does anyone here have EXTREME reactions to foods, body products, etc. to the

> point of it making you irritable, VERY anxious or suicidal? Please tell me

>any

>

> similar experiences and how you handled them. I felt like following through

>on

>

> my suicidal thoughts yesterday as a result of a bad reaction to something.Â

I

> feel like I'll lose the only positive thing in my life....my boyfriend. I'm

> scared.

>

> Milena

>

>

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Hi Milena,

You've touched on a number of topics.

I can relate to the social discomforts you mentioned. Part of the problem

for me in this area has been greatly lessened by drinking more water.

Without going too much into psychic phenomenon as it isn't really the place

for this forum, I am quite empathic feeling the emotions of other people.

When I'm around other people, especially groups and crowds I seem to channel

a lot more energy through me and find I get very uncomfortable until I down

a lot of water. The water helps ground the body energetically. If you look

into the 'water cure' this may be helpful. Initially the water cure

involves supplementing with a little sea salt to help draw water into the

cells.

In a nutshell I can describe what I've learned with my candida-digestive

issue:

My main issues began after an MMR vaccination. In the early nineties

mercury preservative was still being used as a preservative and caused a lot

of problems for people especially children. For me I had to stop eating

meat as my abdomen would bloat like a soccer ball and I developed extreme

brain allergies to wheat and milk products. Many years were wasted trying

to figure out a diet that works for me.

From a science perspective mercury kills bacteria hence the preservative

use. After a vaccination or inhaling the vapour from a broken thermometer,

etc the liver will dump the mercury into the intestines. Mercury will kill

a lot of the beneficial bacteria but surprisingly the candida albicans

absorbs mercury according to research. Research has also shown that white

blood cells will bypass candida with mercury in it. The environment is now

set for flourishing candida and the irritating toxins they produce.

I wont go into the chelation process in this post but I can ad this if

people are interested. By far the most beneficial thing I've been doing is

having stir fries. Each dish is at least 50% veggies usually about 70%.

with rice, rice noodles, millet or even just corn chips. The high veggie

content is easily digested by the body beating the candida as well as my

body benefits from all the vitamins and minerals.

Willem

------------------------

Willem,

Wow, it's so nice to hear I am not alone. I know what you are talking

about.......Dr. refers to this as a cerebral allergy. Very common if

you

are also suffering from adrenal fatigue, which I am. I have stopped eating

sugar, milk (accept for kefir and greek yogurt), soy, gluten, corn, nuts,

etc.

I do not mix my proteins with carbohydrates because I know that they are

processed at different rates which causes fermentation in the body, thus

feeding

the candida. I have only found 1 restaurant so far where I can eat without

breaking out in hives or becoming agitated, socially uncomfortable and

depressed. I never know when something will make me feel bad. In addition,

my

outdoor allergies affect my mood so badly that I don't want to go outside. I

get VERY anxious and uncomfortable around other people. It's just

overwhelming.

I'd like to hear what you have been going through and what's working. Thank

you

for taking the time to respond. It's great knowing there are people out

there

that understand. I don't personally know anyone going thru what I do and

it's

hard when people look at you like your crazy.

Sincerely,

Milena

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Willem, you are right on with this. Please note that fluoride binds all toxins

and metals to the body, making it hard to chelate. So I will add to what you

said...to drink and use only purified non-fluoridated water and keep all

fluoride out of the body. This means no fluoride toothpaste, nor fluoride

medications. Mercury binds with fluoride and is stored wherever there is

calcium. After getting rid of fluoride I felt A LOT better. Slowly I am

recovering from toxic affects of poisons and toxins that fluoride kept in my

body.

>

> Hi Milena,

>

> You've touched on a number of topics.

>

> I can relate to the social discomforts you mentioned. Part of the problem

> for me in this area has been greatly lessened by drinking more water.

> Without going too much into psychic phenomenon as it isn't really the place

> for this forum, I am quite empathic feeling the emotions of other people.

> When I'm around other people, especially groups and crowds I seem to channel

> a lot more energy through me and find I get very uncomfortable until I down

> a lot of water. The water helps ground the body energetically. If you look

> into the 'water cure' this may be helpful. Initially the water cure

> involves supplementing with a little sea salt to help draw water into the

> cells.

>

> In a nutshell I can describe what I've learned with my candida-digestive

> issue:

>

> My main issues began after an MMR vaccination. In the early nineties

> mercury preservative was still being used as a preservative and caused a lot

> of problems for people especially children. For me I had to stop eating

> meat as my abdomen would bloat like a soccer ball and I developed extreme

> brain allergies to wheat and milk products. Many years were wasted trying

> to figure out a diet that works for me.

>

> From a science perspective mercury kills bacteria hence the preservative

> use. After a vaccination or inhaling the vapour from a broken thermometer,

> etc the liver will dump the mercury into the intestines. Mercury will kill

> a lot of the beneficial bacteria but surprisingly the candida albicans

> absorbs mercury according to research. Research has also shown that white

> blood cells will bypass candida with mercury in it. The environment is now

> set for flourishing candida and the irritating toxins they produce.

>

> I wont go into the chelation process in this post but I can ad this if

> people are interested. By far the most beneficial thing I've been doing is

> having stir fries. Each dish is at least 50% veggies usually about 70%.

> with rice, rice noodles, millet or even just corn chips. The high veggie

> content is easily digested by the body beating the candida as well as my

> body benefits from all the vitamins and minerals.

>

> Willem

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------

>

> Willem,

>

> Wow, it's so nice to hear I am not alone. I know what you are talking

> about.......Dr. refers to this as a cerebral allergy. Very common if

> you

> are also suffering from adrenal fatigue, which I am. I have stopped eating

> sugar, milk (accept for kefir and greek yogurt), soy, gluten, corn, nuts,

> etc.

> I do not mix my proteins with carbohydrates because I know that they are

> processed at different rates which causes fermentation in the body, thus

> feeding

> the candida. I have only found 1 restaurant so far where I can eat without

> breaking out in hives or becoming agitated, socially uncomfortable and

> depressed. I never know when something will make me feel bad. In addition,

> my

> outdoor allergies affect my mood so badly that I don't want to go outside. I

>

> get VERY anxious and uncomfortable around other people. It's just

> overwhelming.

>

> I'd like to hear what you have been going through and what's working. Thank

> you

> for taking the time to respond. It's great knowing there are people out

> there

> that understand. I don't personally know anyone going thru what I do and

> it's

> hard when people look at you like your crazy.

>

> Sincerely,

> Milena

>

>

>

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Like Milena, i get tyeh same thing... social fears, mostly unfounded, and

physical discomfort, i think im allergic to gluten but the celiac test came back

negative... i have been wondering about candida for a long time, and i d like to

re start the anti candida diet but feel like i need a refresher course in what

to eat and how to stay on top of the cooking as i cook for me and my kid, who is

ten, and a Mum who gets diverticulitis and has watermelon stomach. She eats

what she likes and no amount of saying, hey, you get this and that and the other

thing and they are ALL related to a bad diet of white flour.. gluten and

candida. She doesnt want to change and my kids dad is often here and they all

pressure me to eat the usual deal with protein and veges and heavy carbs etc.

its frustrating cos my health is suffering for it. I have been avoiding gluten

and usually that results in an almost fart free me but right now, it seems like

hell is in my bowels!

I dont like the way ppl look at me when i try to explain that gluten hurts me

and ppl i my family act like i am being trying if i dont want to eat what they

want to.. and its fukunstrating cos i often WANT TO eat what they are having,

and if i cave in and do that, i feel terrible and pick my face a lot. I also

get inflamed skin on my face and all the areas where i have picked look heaps

worse.. so i get depressed and dont want to go out.

I also went very depressive and agro for a while there and alienated all my

friends.. fair weather friends its true, but I foudn that i became sick to death

of all their bull, the one sided ness ofthings and ppl acting like i could be

treated as a second classs friend by a groups that is very cliquey and now i

dont have hardly anyone to talk to... but in some ways its better than spending

time wieth ppl who think its okay to abuse me n various ways. I feel like im

starting over but i would love some tips about how to get my family to realize

that my diet is an important part of helping myself emotionally get motivated

for making a new start on my career.. i feel like im fighting an uphill battle.

Jill

candidiasis

From: solarplanet75@...

Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2011 17:22:55 +0200

Subject: Re: Extreme reactions -- suicidal

Hi Milena,

You've touched on a number of topics.

I can relate to the social discomforts you mentioned. Part of the problem

for me in this area has been greatly lessened by drinking more water.

Without going too much into psychic phenomenon as it isn't really the place

for this forum, I am quite empathic feeling the emotions of other people.

When I'm around other people, especially groups and crowds I seem to channel

a lot more energy through me and find I get very uncomfortable until I down

a lot of water. The water helps ground the body energetically. If you look

into the 'water cure' this may be helpful. Initially the water cure

involves supplementing with a little sea salt to help draw water into the

cells.

In a nutshell I can describe what I've learned with my candida-digestive

issue:

My main issues began after an MMR vaccination. In the early nineties

mercury preservative was still being used as a preservative and caused a lot

of problems for people especially children. For me I had to stop eating

meat as my abdomen would bloat like a soccer ball and I developed extreme

brain allergies to wheat and milk products. Many years were wasted trying

to figure out a diet that works for me.

From a science perspective mercury kills bacteria hence the preservative

use. After a vaccination or inhaling the vapour from a broken thermometer,

etc the liver will dump the mercury into the intestines. Mercury will kill

a lot of the beneficial bacteria but surprisingly the candida albicans

absorbs mercury according to research. Research has also shown that white

blood cells will bypass candida with mercury in it. The environment is now

set for flourishing candida and the irritating toxins they produce.

I wont go into the chelation process in this post but I can ad this if

people are interested. By far the most beneficial thing I've been doing is

having stir fries. Each dish is at least 50% veggies usually about 70%.

with rice, rice noodles, millet or even just corn chips. The high veggie

content is easily digested by the body beating the candida as well as my

body benefits from all the vitamins and minerals.

Willem

------------------------

Willem,

Wow, it's so nice to hear I am not alone. I know what you are talking

about.......Dr. refers to this as a cerebral allergy. Very common if

you

are also suffering from adrenal fatigue, which I am. I have stopped eating

sugar, milk (accept for kefir and greek yogurt), soy, gluten, corn, nuts,

etc.

I do not mix my proteins with carbohydrates because I know that they are

processed at different rates which causes fermentation in the body, thus

feeding

the candida. I have only found 1 restaurant so far where I can eat without

breaking out in hives or becoming agitated, socially uncomfortable and

depressed. I never know when something will make me feel bad. In addition,

my

outdoor allergies affect my mood so badly that I don't want to go outside. I

get VERY anxious and uncomfortable around other people. It's just

overwhelming.

I'd like to hear what you have been going through and what's working. Thank

you

for taking the time to respond. It's great knowing there are people out

there

that understand. I don't personally know anyone going thru what I do and

it's

hard when people look at you like your crazy.

Sincerely,

Milena

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I still don't understand how to eat the yogurt, i mean is it possible to find a

brand that is sugar free, the lowest one i found is the coconut yogurt brand,

mentioned that you can let the yogurt out for 2 weeks and then the sugar

will be gone? how does that work?

From: Milena Muskin <milena.muskin@...>

Subject: Re: Re: Extreme reactions -- suicidal

candidiasis

Date: Thursday, April 21, 2011, 4:48 PM

 

Willem,

Wow, it's so nice to hear I am not alone. I know what you are talking

about.......Dr. refers to this as a cerebral allergy. Very common if you

are also suffering from adrenal fatigue, which I am. I have stopped eating

sugar, milk (accept for kefir and greek yogurt), soy, gluten, corn, nuts, etc.

I do not mix my proteins with carbohydrates because I know that they are

processed at different rates which causes fermentation in the body, thus feeding

the candida. I have only found 1 restaurant so far where I can eat without

breaking out in hives or becoming agitated, socially uncomfortable and

depressed. I never know when something will make me feel bad. In addition, my

outdoor allergies affect my mood so badly that I don't want to go outside. I

get VERY anxious and uncomfortable around other people. It's just overwhelming.

I'd like to hear what you have been going through and what's working. Thank you

for taking the time to respond. It's great knowing there are people out there

that understand. I don't personally know anyone going thru what I do and it's

hard when people look at you like your crazy.

Sincerely,

Milena

________________________________

From: etherial <solarplanet75@...>

candidiasis

Sent: Thu, April 21, 2011 9:54:56 AM

Subject: Re: Extreme reactions -- suicidal

Hi Milena

Years ago I found I was reacting to homemade chocolate chip cookies. It was

either the shortening or the wheat used that was setting me off. Everyday

usually mid afternoon the dreadful mood would seep into my consciousness and it

would be all I could think about. This lasted for a couple monthes at least.

At the back of my mind I didn't want to end it. I had always thought that if

you change your situation then things will get better. It is better to run away

somewhere and see if things change I thought. Things were going okay for me so

why the incessant need to pull the plug...and it was a severe need to do

this...probably like what you are going through right now. Anyway I read a book

discussing brain allergy symptoms linked to certain foods we eat. So I stopped

eating these cookies and a few other things and viola the issues started lifting

even the depression that I was feeling at the time.

The main foods to beware of are wheat and other gluten grained foods, chocolate,

milk products (even a quarter ounce cream in your coffea), corn. There are

quite a number of others from peanuts to certain vegetables for some people.

I hope this helps.

Willem

>

> Does anyone here have EXTREME reactions to foods, body products, etc. to the

> point of it making you irritable, VERY anxious or suicidal? Please tell me

>any

>

> similar experiences and how you handled them. I felt like following through

>on

>

> my suicidal thoughts yesterday as a result of a bad reaction to something.Â

I

> feel like I'll lose the only positive thing in my life....my boyfriend. I'm

> scared.

>

> Milena

>

>

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isn't high carb veggies( like potatoes, corn and grains) a not allowed in the

diet?????

From: willem <solarplanet75@...>

Subject: Re: Extreme reactions -- suicidal

candidiasis

Date: Sunday, April 24, 2011, 8:22 AM

 

Hi Milena,

You've touched on a number of topics.

I can relate to the social discomforts you mentioned. Part of the problem

for me in this area has been greatly lessened by drinking more water.

Without going too much into psychic phenomenon as it isn't really the place

for this forum, I am quite empathic feeling the emotions of other people.

When I'm around other people, especially groups and crowds I seem to channel

a lot more energy through me and find I get very uncomfortable until I down

a lot of water. The water helps ground the body energetically. If you look

into the 'water cure' this may be helpful. Initially the water cure

involves supplementing with a little sea salt to help draw water into the

cells.

In a nutshell I can describe what I've learned with my candida-digestive

issue:

My main issues began after an MMR vaccination. In the early nineties

mercury preservative was still being used as a preservative and caused a lot

of problems for people especially children. For me I had to stop eating

meat as my abdomen would bloat like a soccer ball and I developed extreme

brain allergies to wheat and milk products. Many years were wasted trying

to figure out a diet that works for me.

From a science perspective mercury kills bacteria hence the preservative

use. After a vaccination or inhaling the vapour from a broken thermometer,

etc the liver will dump the mercury into the intestines. Mercury will kill

a lot of the beneficial bacteria but surprisingly the candida albicans

absorbs mercury according to research. Research has also shown that white

blood cells will bypass candida with mercury in it. The environment is now

set for flourishing candida and the irritating toxins they produce.

I wont go into the chelation process in this post but I can ad this if

people are interested. By far the most beneficial thing I've been doing is

having stir fries. Each dish is at least 50% veggies usually about 70%.

with rice, rice noodles, millet or even just corn chips. The high veggie

content is easily digested by the body beating the candida as well as my

body benefits from all the vitamins and minerals.

Willem

------------------------

Willem,

Wow, it's so nice to hear I am not alone. I know what you are talking

about.......Dr. refers to this as a cerebral allergy. Very common if

you

are also suffering from adrenal fatigue, which I am. I have stopped eating

sugar, milk (accept for kefir and greek yogurt), soy, gluten, corn, nuts,

etc.

I do not mix my proteins with carbohydrates because I know that they are

processed at different rates which causes fermentation in the body, thus

feeding

the candida. I have only found 1 restaurant so far where I can eat without

breaking out in hives or becoming agitated, socially uncomfortable and

depressed. I never know when something will make me feel bad. In addition,

my

outdoor allergies affect my mood so badly that I don't want to go outside. I

get VERY anxious and uncomfortable around other people. It's just

overwhelming.

I'd like to hear what you have been going through and what's working. Thank

you

for taking the time to respond. It's great knowing there are people out

there

that understand. I don't personally know anyone going thru what I do and

it's

hard when people look at you like your crazy.

Sincerely,

Milena

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Vintage...thanks for sharing that. I presently enjoy well water in the country

but when I visit friends in the city I'm disgusted by the water there. My body

is likely warning me to not drink it as your post is suggesting. It's hard

suggesting the water cure to people when it tastes so terrible.

>

> Willem, you are right on with this. Please note that fluoride binds all toxins

and metals to the body, making it hard to chelate. So I will add to what you

said...to drink and use only purified non-fluoridated water and keep all

fluoride out of the body. This means no fluoride toothpaste, nor fluoride

medications. Mercury binds with fluoride and is stored wherever there is

calcium. After getting rid of fluoride I felt A LOT better. Slowly I am

recovering from toxic affects of poisons and toxins that fluoride kept in my

body.

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Do not buy ANY flavored yogurt. Most have aspartame on the label and is hidden

under " natural flaorings " . If you are lactose intolerant, whole Foods sells a

cultured coconut milk without ANY sugar. It has probiotics without all the other

stuff that comes with dairy.

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From: Gutierrez <brolyssj4_mzc@...>

candidiasis

Sent: Mon, April 25, 2011 12:27:27 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Extreme reactions -- suicidal

I still don't understand how to eat the yogurt, i mean is it possible to find a

brand that is sugar free, the lowest one i found is the coconut yogurt brand,

mentioned that you can let the yogurt out for 2 weeks and then the sugar

will be gone? how does that work?

From: Milena Muskin <milena.muskin@...>

Subject: Re: Re: Extreme reactions -- suicidal

candidiasis

Date: Thursday, April 21, 2011, 4:48 PM

Willem,

Wow, it's so nice to hear I am not alone. I know what you are talking

about.......Dr. refers to this as a cerebral allergy. Very common if you

are also suffering from adrenal fatigue, which I am. I have stopped eating

sugar, milk (accept for kefir and greek yogurt), soy, gluten, corn, nuts, etc.

I do not mix my proteins with carbohydrates because I know that they are

processed at different rates which causes fermentation in the body, thus feeding

the candida. I have only found 1 restaurant so far where I can eat without

breaking out in hives or becoming agitated, socially uncomfortable and

depressed. I never know when something will make me feel bad. In addition, my

outdoor allergies affect my mood so badly that I don't want to go outside. I

get VERY anxious and uncomfortable around other people. It's just overwhelming.

I'd like to hear what you have been going through and what's working. Thank you

for taking the time to respond. It's great knowing there are people out there

that understand. I don't personally know anyone going thru what I do and it's

hard when people look at you like your crazy.

Sincerely,

Milena

________________________________

From: etherial <solarplanet75@...>

candidiasis

Sent: Thu, April 21, 2011 9:54:56 AM

Subject: Re: Extreme reactions -- suicidal

Hi Milena

Years ago I found I was reacting to homemade chocolate chip cookies. It was

either the shortening or the wheat used that was setting me off. Everyday

usually mid afternoon the dreadful mood would seep into my consciousness and it

would be all I could think about. This lasted for a couple monthes at least.

At the back of my mind I didn't want to end it. I had always thought that if

you change your situation then things will get better. It is better to run away

somewhere and see if things change I thought. Things were going okay for me so

why the incessant need to pull the plug...and it was a severe need to do

this...probably like what you are going through right now. Anyway I read a book

discussing brain allergy symptoms linked to certain foods we eat. So I stopped

eating these cookies and a few other things and viola the issues started lifting

even the depression that I was feeling at the time.

The main foods to beware of are wheat and other gluten grained foods, chocolate,

milk products (even a quarter ounce cream in your coffea), corn. There are

quite a number of others from peanuts to certain vegetables for some people.

I hope this helps.

Willem

>

> Does anyone here have EXTREME reactions to foods, body products, etc. to the

> point of it making you irritable, VERY anxious or suicidal? Please tell me

>any

>

> similar experiences and how you handled them. I felt like following through

>on

>

> my suicidal thoughts yesterday as a result of a bad reaction to something.Â

I

> feel like I'll lose the only positive thing in my life....my boyfriend. I'm

> scared.

>

> Milena

>

>

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That type of depression is called Passive Suicidal Ideation. Not well known or

talked about either. I am a social worker and didn't find out about it until I

suffered severe depression after losing my fiancee to cancer, 3 months before we

were supposed to get married. I was 53 at the time and had never been married,

so it was a HUGE loss. When I found out there was a name for it, I calmed down

a lot and started working through the feelings.

Then, I found LDN (Low Dose Naltrexone) and it has helped me a lot too! It is

not a cure and isn't without some adjustments. Including diet change, which is

advocated when you have Candida anyway, but it has helped me a lot.

Hope this helps.

Glowing,

grace~

As Ghandi taught, the secret to life is to struggle against oppression and to

fight for what is needed, but not to be attached to any particular outcome.

Therein lies the secret of peace within the chaos.

" For every failure there's another course of action. When you hit a roadblock,

take a detour. " - Kay Ash

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Milena

This reaction you are having may not just be brain allergy - food related.

Combining sadness and loss along with health issues can have a devastating

effect on your emotions. For some reason sadness is easily suppressed so we can

carry on with our lives.

Feel free to post your concerns. There are many of us willing to help here.

Willem

>

> Willem,

>

> Wow, it's so nice to hear I am not alone...

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I felt like that after Christmas when I got a 24 flu which lasted 2 weeks!  It

didn't help that I broke all the dietary rules.  I get off balance easily & I

wasn't taking my vitamins.  I'm doing an elimination diet now.  I feel really

good if I just eat vegetables & brown rice & lean meat.  No fruit for 3 weeks.

 I could get used to feeling so good!

Sharon Hamm (630) 553-9589, (630) 536-9578

From: Milena Muskin <milena.muskin@...>

Subject: Re: Re: Extreme reactions -- suicidal

candidiasis

Date: Thursday, April 21, 2011, 4:48 PM

Willem,

Wow, it's so nice to hear I am not alone. I know what you are talking

about.......Dr. refers to this as a cerebral allergy. Very common if you

are also suffering from adrenal fatigue, which I am. I have stopped eating

sugar, milk (accept for kefir and greek yogurt), soy, gluten, corn, nuts, etc.

I do not mix my proteins with carbohydrates because I know that they are

processed at different rates which causes fermentation in the body, thus feeding

the candida. I have only found 1 restaurant so far where I can eat without

breaking out in hives or becoming agitated, socially uncomfortable and

depressed. I never know when something will make me feel bad. In addition, my

outdoor allergies affect my mood so badly that I don't want to go outside. I

get VERY anxious and uncomfortable around other people. It's just overwhelming.

I'd like to hear what you have been going through and what's working. Thank you

for taking the time to respond. It's great knowing there are people out there

that understand. I don't personally know anyone going thru what I do and it's

hard when people look at you like your crazy.

Sincerely,

Milena

________________________________

From: etherial <solarplanet75@...>

candidiasis

Sent: Thu, April 21, 2011 9:54:56 AM

Subject: Re: Extreme reactions -- suicidal

Hi Milena

Years ago I found I was reacting to homemade chocolate chip cookies. It was

either the shortening or the wheat used that was setting me off. Everyday

usually mid afternoon the dreadful mood would seep into my consciousness and it

would be all I could think about. This lasted for a couple monthes at least.

At the back of my mind I didn't want to end it. I had always thought that if

you change your situation then things will get better. It is better to run away

somewhere and see if things change I thought. Things were going okay for me so

why the incessant need to pull the plug...and it was a severe need to do

this...probably like what you are going through right now. Anyway I read a book

discussing brain allergy symptoms linked to certain foods we eat. So I stopped

eating these cookies and a few other things and viola the issues started lifting

even the depression that I was feeling at the time.

The main foods to beware of are wheat and other gluten grained foods, chocolate,

milk products (even a quarter ounce cream in your coffea), corn. There are

quite a number of others from peanuts to certain vegetables for some people.

I hope this helps.

Willem

>

> Does anyone here have EXTREME reactions to foods, body products, etc. to the

> point of it making you irritable, VERY anxious or suicidal? Please tell me

>any

>

> similar experiences and how you handled them. I felt like following through

>on

>

> my suicidal thoughts yesterday as a result of a bad reaction to something.Â

I

> feel like I'll lose the only positive thing in my life....my boyfriend. I'm

> scared.

>

> Milena

>

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Hello grace,

I heard about this before.  What kind of doctor do you see to get it and what

exactly were the changes you experienced ?

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solarplanet75@...; candida Group <candidiasis >

Sent: Tue, April 26, 2011 1:25:06 PM

Subject: Re: Extreme reactions -- suicidal

 

That type of depression is called Passive Suicidal Ideation. Not well known or

talked about either. I am a social worker and didn't find out about it until I

suffered severe depression after losing my fiancee to cancer, 3 months before we

were supposed to get married. I was 53 at the time and had never been married,

so it was a HUGE loss. When I found out there was a name for it, I calmed down a

lot and started working through the feelings.

Then, I found LDN (Low Dose Naltrexone) and it has helped me a lot too! It is

not a cure and isn't without some adjustments. Including diet change, which is

advocated when you have Candida anyway, but it has helped me a lot.

Hope this helps.

Glowing,

grace~

As Ghandi taught, the secret to life is to struggle against oppression and to

fight for what is needed, but not to be attached to any particular outcome.

Therein lies the secret of peace within the chaos.

" For every failure there's another course of action. When you hit a roadblock,

take a detour. " - Kay Ash

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Thank you VERY much. Willem.  I'm not sure about this.  There is nothing going

on in my life, aside from these reactions, that is upsetting to me.  I have a

wonderful and supportive family and boyfriend.  I have a good and stable job. 

I

just seem to have reactions to foods/environment.  I'm going to start to see a

therapist that deals mostly with how to handle stress too.

You are very kind to offer an ear and suggestions:-)

________________________________

From: etherial <solarplanet75@...>

candidiasis

Sent: Tue, April 26, 2011 6:08:16 PM

Subject: Re: Extreme reactions -- suicidal

 

Milena

This reaction you are having may not just be brain allergy - food related.

Combining sadness and loss along with health issues can have a devastating

effect on your emotions. For some reason sadness is easily suppressed so we can

carry on with our lives.

Feel free to post your concerns. There are many of us willing to help here.

Willem

>

> Willem,

>

> Wow, it's so nice to hear I am not alone...

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Ya, I felt my best after my colonoscopy ......no food.  Only clear organic

chicken broth and water.  We just have to be vigilant:-)

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candidiasis

Sent: Wed, April 27, 2011 1:56:40 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Extreme reactions -- suicidal

 

I felt like that after Christmas when I got a 24 flu which lasted 2 weeks!  It

didn't help that I broke all the dietary rules.  I get off balance easily & I

wasn't taking my vitamins.  I'm doing an elimination diet now.  I feel really

good if I just eat vegetables & brown rice & lean meat.  No fruit for 3 weeks.

 I could get used to feeling so good!

Sharon Hamm (630) 553-9589, (630) 536-9578

From: Milena Muskin <milena.muskin@...>

Subject: Re: Re: Extreme reactions -- suicidal

candidiasis

Date: Thursday, April 21, 2011, 4:48 PM

Willem,

Wow, it's so nice to hear I am not alone. I know what you are talking

about.......Dr. refers to this as a cerebral allergy. Very common if you

are also suffering from adrenal fatigue, which I am. I have stopped eating

sugar, milk (accept for kefir and greek yogurt), soy, gluten, corn, nuts, etc.

I do not mix my proteins with carbohydrates because I know that they are

processed at different rates which causes fermentation in the body, thus feeding

the candida. I have only found 1 restaurant so far where I can eat without

breaking out in hives or becoming agitated, socially uncomfortable and

depressed. I never know when something will make me feel bad. In addition, my

outdoor allergies affect my mood so badly that I don't want to go outside. I

get VERY anxious and uncomfortable around other people. It's just overwhelming.

I'd like to hear what you have been going through and what's working. Thank you

for taking the time to respond. It's great knowing there are people out there

that understand. I don't personally know anyone going thru what I do and it's

hard when people look at you like your crazy.

Sincerely,

Milena

________________________________

From: etherial <solarplanet75@...>

candidiasis

Sent: Thu, April 21, 2011 9:54:56 AM

Subject: Re: Extreme reactions -- suicidal

Hi Milena

Years ago I found I was reacting to homemade chocolate chip cookies. It was

either the shortening or the wheat used that was setting me off. Everyday

usually mid afternoon the dreadful mood would seep into my consciousness and it

would be all I could think about. This lasted for a couple monthes at least.

At the back of my mind I didn't want to end it. I had always thought that if

you change your situation then things will get better. It is better to run away

somewhere and see if things change I thought. Things were going okay for me so

why the incessant need to pull the plug...and it was a severe need to do

this...probably like what you are going through right now. Anyway I read a book

discussing brain allergy symptoms linked to certain foods we eat. So I stopped

eating these cookies and a few other things and viola the issues started lifting

even the depression that I was feeling at the time.

The main foods to beware of are wheat and other gluten grained foods, chocolate,

milk products (even a quarter ounce cream in your coffea), corn. There are

quite a number of others from peanuts to certain vegetables for some people.

I hope this helps.

Willem

>

> Does anyone here have EXTREME reactions to foods, body products, etc. to the

> point of it making you irritable, VERY anxious or suicidal? Please tell me

>any

>

> similar experiences and how you handled them. I felt like following through

>on

>

> my suicidal thoughts yesterday as a result of a bad reaction to something. I

> feel like I'll lose the only positive thing in my life....my boyfriend. I'm

> scared.

>

> Milena

>

>

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Such a lot of great info.  Thank you.   I do have to increase my water

intake. 

My main problem right now is that the lithium I take is acting as a diuretic so

I am pretty much dehydrated.  Water goes straight through me.  I do take sea

salt throughout the day, to no avail.  Any suggestions?

________________________________

From: willem <solarplanet75@...>

candidiasis

Sent: Sun, April 24, 2011 11:22:55 AM

Subject: Re: Extreme reactions -- suicidal

 

Hi Milena,

You've touched on a number of topics.

I can relate to the social discomforts you mentioned. Part of the problem

for me in this area has been greatly lessened by drinking more water.

Without going too much into psychic phenomenon as it isn't really the place

for this forum, I am quite empathic feeling the emotions of other people.

When I'm around other people, especially groups and crowds I seem to channel

a lot more energy through me and find I get very uncomfortable until I down

a lot of water. The water helps ground the body energetically. If you look

into the 'water cure' this may be helpful. Initially the water cure

involves supplementing with a little sea salt to help draw water into the

cells.

In a nutshell I can describe what I've learned with my candida-digestive

issue:

My main issues began after an MMR vaccination. In the early nineties

mercury preservative was still being used as a preservative and caused a lot

of problems for people especially children. For me I had to stop eating

meat as my abdomen would bloat like a soccer ball and I developed extreme

brain allergies to wheat and milk products. Many years were wasted trying

to figure out a diet that works for me.

From a science perspective mercury kills bacteria hence the preservative

use. After a vaccination or inhaling the vapour from a broken thermometer,

etc the liver will dump the mercury into the intestines. Mercury will kill

a lot of the beneficial bacteria but surprisingly the candida albicans

absorbs mercury according to research. Research has also shown that white

blood cells will bypass candida with mercury in it. The environment is now

set for flourishing candida and the irritating toxins they produce.

I wont go into the chelation process in this post but I can ad this if

people are interested. By far the most beneficial thing I've been doing is

having stir fries. Each dish is at least 50% veggies usually about 70%.

with rice, rice noodles, millet or even just corn chips. The high veggie

content is easily digested by the body beating the candida as well as my

body benefits from all the vitamins and minerals.

Willem

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Jill,

I understand EXACTLY how you feel.  I anguished over the looks I get from people

and the judgments.  I have found that I have to put my health first.  I have

stopped talking to any friends that I feel are not supportive.  One girl would

always call me " bubble girl " as a joke about my not being able to eat a lot of

different foods, etc. and always being sick.   If there are people that you just

cannot walk away from -- husband, family members -- try to give them some

information that explains in better detail and tell them you are doing this so

that you are healthy enough to be the best wife, mother, daughter....

Go see a therapist that can help you reframe things so that you don't feel like

such a victim.  Because that's what I feel like at times.  There's a book called

" 29 Gifts " that has really helped.  IT's about a woman that finds out that she

has MS within 1 month of her wedding and she's just 31 years old.  It helps

you to stop focusing on yourself and your health issues so that you can see you

have a lot to offer.  By getting outside of yourself, you end up feeling much

better.

I hope this helps.  I'm in this struggle with you.  Yes Jill.....there are

people out there that are going through the same stuff and feel the same way. 

We will help you through to the other side.

Milena

________________________________

From: jillian fckoff <jillzafreak@...>

candidiasis

Sent: Sun, April 24, 2011 11:51:04 AM

Subject: RE: Re: Extreme reactions -- suicidal

 

Like Milena, i get tyeh same thing... social fears, mostly unfounded, and

physical discomfort, i think im allergic to gluten but the celiac test came back

negative... i have been wondering about candida for a long time, and i d like to

re start the anti candida diet but feel like i need a refresher course in what

to eat and how to stay on top of the cooking as i cook for me and my kid, who is

ten, and a Mum who gets diverticulitis and has watermelon stomach. She eats what

she likes and no amount of saying, hey, you get this and that and the other

thing and they are ALL related to a bad diet of white flour.. gluten and

candida. She doesnt want to change and my kids dad is often here and they all

pressure me to eat the usual deal with protein and veges and heavy carbs etc.

its frustrating cos my health is suffering for it. I have been avoiding gluten

and usually that results in an almost fart free me but right now, it seems like

hell is in my bowels!

I dont like the way ppl look at me when i try to explain that gluten hurts me

and ppl i my family act like i am being trying if i dont want to eat what they

want to.. and its fukunstrating cos i often WANT TO eat what they are having,

and if i cave in and do that, i feel terrible and pick my face a lot. I also get

inflamed skin on my face and all the areas where i have picked look heaps

worse.. so i get depressed and dont want to go out.

I also went very depressive and agro for a while there and alienated all my

friends.. fair weather friends its true, but I foudn that i became sick to death

of all their bull, the one sided ness ofthings and ppl acting like i could be

treated as a second classs friend by a groups that is very cliquey and now i

dont have hardly anyone to talk to... but in some ways its better than spending

time wieth ppl who think its okay to abuse me n various ways. I feel like im

starting over but i would love some tips about how to get my family to realize

that my diet is an important part of helping myself emotionally get motivated

for making a new start on my career.. i feel like im fighting an uphill battle.

Jill

candidiasis

From: solarplanet75@...

Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2011 17:22:55 +0200

Subject: Re: Extreme reactions -- suicidal

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Hi,

Check out this website on meditation and emotional responses and how help with

understanding our responses and how to overcome and stay in the present instead

of the past and future. I just downloaded the meditation book and it is blowing

my mind.

www.fhu.com

Blessings,

W.

>

> Jill,

>

> I understand EXACTLY how you feel.  I anguished over the looks I get from

people

> and the judgments.  I have found that I have to put my health first.  I have

> stopped talking to any friends that I feel are not supportive.  One girl would

> always call me " bubble girl " as a joke about my not being able to eat a lot of

> different foods, etc. and always being sick.   If there are people that you

just

> cannot walk away from -- husband, family members -- try to give them some

> information that explains in better detail and tell them you are doing this so

> that you are healthy enough to be the best wife, mother, daughter....

>

> Go see a therapist that can help you reframe things so that you don't feel

like

> such a victim.  Because that's what I feel like at times.  There's a book

called

> " 29 Gifts " that has really helped.  IT's about a woman that finds out that she

> has MS within 1 month of her wedding and she's just 31 years old.  It helps

> you to stop focusing on yourself and your health issues so that you can see

you

> have a lot to offer.  By getting outside of yourself, you end up feeling much

> better.

>

> I hope this helps.  I'm in this struggle with you.  Yes Jill.....there are

> people out there that are going through the same stuff and feel the same way. 

> We will help you through to the other side.

>

> Milena

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: jillian fckoff <jillzafreak@...>

> candidiasis

> Sent: Sun, April 24, 2011 11:51:04 AM

> Subject: RE: Re: Extreme reactions -- suicidal

>

>  

>

> Like Milena, i get tyeh same thing... social fears, mostly unfounded, and

> physical discomfort, i think im allergic to gluten but the celiac test came

back

> negative... i have been wondering about candida for a long time, and i d like

to

> re start the anti candida diet but feel like i need a refresher course in what

> to eat and how to stay on top of the cooking as i cook for me and my kid, who

is

> ten, and a Mum who gets diverticulitis and has watermelon stomach. She eats

what

> she likes and no amount of saying, hey, you get this and that and the other

> thing and they are ALL related to a bad diet of white flour.. gluten and

> candida. She doesnt want to change and my kids dad is often here and they all

> pressure me to eat the usual deal with protein and veges and heavy carbs etc.

> its frustrating cos my health is suffering for it. I have been avoiding gluten

> and usually that results in an almost fart free me but right now, it seems

like

> hell is in my bowels!

> I dont like the way ppl look at me when i try to explain that gluten hurts me

> and ppl i my family act like i am being trying if i dont want to eat what they

> want to.. and its fukunstrating cos i often WANT TO eat what they are having,

> and if i cave in and do that, i feel terrible and pick my face a lot. I also

get

> inflamed skin on my face and all the areas where i have picked look heaps

> worse.. so i get depressed and dont want to go out.

> I also went very depressive and agro for a while there and alienated all my

> friends.. fair weather friends its true, but I foudn that i became sick to

death

> of all their bull, the one sided ness ofthings and ppl acting like i could be

> treated as a second classs friend by a groups that is very cliquey and now i

> dont have hardly anyone to talk to... but in some ways its better than

spending

> time wieth ppl who think its okay to abuse me n various ways. I feel like im

> starting over but i would love some tips about how to get my family to realize

> that my diet is an important part of helping myself emotionally get motivated

> for making a new start on my career.. i feel like im fighting an uphill

battle.

> Jill

>

> candidiasis

> From: solarplanet75@...

> Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2011 17:22:55 +0200

> Subject: Re: Extreme reactions -- suicidal

>

> .

>

>

>

>

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Hello,

Just a suggestion, I am the same way, very edgy, irritable, angry, just wake up

angry sometimes. My Chiropractor suggested I do a hair analysis. When it came

back, it explained the culprit. I have very high copper from various stressors

in my life mainly physical like viruses, candida etc. So a high copper person

fits this description of no patience.

Blessings,

W

> >

> > Willem,

> >

> > Wow, it's so nice to hear I am not alone...

>

>

>

>

>

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Where do you get this hair analysis, ?

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From: gina.whatley <thewhatleys1@...>

candidiasis

Sent: Sun, May 1, 2011 11:43:42 AM

Subject: Re: Extreme reactions -- suicidal

 

Hello,

Just a suggestion, I am the same way, very edgy, irritable, angry, just wake up

angry sometimes. My Chiropractor suggested I do a hair analysis. When it came

back, it explained the culprit. I have very high copper from various stressors

in my life mainly physical like viruses, candida etc. So a high copper person

fits this description of no patience.

Blessings,

W

> >

> > Willem,

> >

> > Wow, it's so nice to hear I am not alone...

>

>

>

>

>

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I went into in-patient treatment. Then, was put in out patient at Loma

University Behavioral Medicine Center in Loma CA. They have a great

leader there and she uses the book Feeling Good. Lots of great exercises in the

book that helped too. If I could afford it, I would go again.

The other thing I would like to try is an 8 week meditation course in San Diego,

based on the book Full Catastrophe Living by Kabat-Zinn. Not sure on the

last name, but it is a great book. They have been doing this for a long time

now and the program has been replicated in a lot of places, with excellent

results. I would go to work on getting rid of my chronic pain. And so that I

could be calmer. I am stressed a lot of the time. Money worries due to being

on disability and health issues, plus other personal stuff.

My long term goal is to get off the antidepressants because I think they are

part of the problem for me. Have to stay alive in the process though.

Anyway, I hope that helps.

Glowing,

grace~

As Ghandi taught, the secret to life is to struggle against oppression and to

fight for what is needed, but not to be attached to any particular outcome.

Therein lies the secret of peace within the chaos.

" For every failure there's another course of action. When you hit a roadblock,

take a detour. " - Kay Ash

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