Is Normal Now A Mental Illness?

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Is Normal Now A Mental Illness?

Is your child easily distracted? Or perhaps he talks excessively, or can become impatient? Most, if not all, parents would perhaps answer yes to these questions, as they are, what many of us believe to be, normal expressions of child behaviour. Not so, according to Psychiatry. It could be that your child has "Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder", a "disease" of the mind that could require medical treatment. The American Psychiatric Association's Diagnostic and Statistics Manual (DSM, version IV), the psychiatrist's handbook, lists a number of behavioural traits, such as these, that it considers abnormal in children. Others include: "often has difficulty awaiting turn", "often does not seem to listen when spoken to directly", and "often has difficulty playing or engaging in leisure activities quietly". 'It's total fraud', says Westen, editor of Psychbusters, an online activist group.

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--- In health , " Kathy " <vanokat@m...>

wrote:

> Is your child easily distracted? Or perhaps he talks excessively, or

can

> become impatient?

> 'It's total fraud', says Westen, editor of Psychbusters, an

online

> activist group.

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http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/nation/3375935

ADHD drug may raise suicide risk in youths

Strattera will carry a black-box warning, says the drug maker

By JOHN J. LUMPKIN

Associated Press

WASHINGTON - The Food and Drug Administration warned doctors Thursday

about reports of suicidal thinking in some children and adolescents

who are taking Strattera, a drug used to treat attention deficit

hyperactivity disorder.

Manufacturer Eli Lilly & Co. announced that a black-box warning will

be added to the drug's label in the United States.

Such a warning is the most serious that can be added to a medication's

label, and similar warnings will be added to the drug's labels in

other countries.

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Now they tell us, after the fact. How well known is the fact that

AHDH medication also stunts growth, and may likely lead to heart

problems a dozen years down the road?

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Kathy,

Adult ADD.....It can be controlled with diet and lifestyle changes.

There are lots of adults with ADD.

Like me,

Kit

> I have a hubby who has these problems......and no...I am not

joking.....am completely serious here.

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> Kathy L.

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Yes....if they will co-operate and eat right. I fight with him to get him to

eat properly and he is also diabetic. I think ADD may be part of the temper

problem with him too. I am hoping that his 2 classes with a diatician might

bring him to some understanding that he needs to be more aware of what he

eats.....ie: more fruits and veggies and less processed food. I eat less of

it since being on here but have to admit it is hard to give up totally as I

am quite often too tired to prepare food for myself since hubby started his

new job and I have 5 kids to chase around. I feed the kids ok but tend to

not eat myself till they are settled in bed. I know that after having my

teeth fixed on monday will make it easier to eat fruit without having to cut

it into small pieces......maybe that will help him eat better too if I do it

in front of him.

We have cut out a lot of sugar items though so that is an

improvement......and our daughter has been put on a gluten and lactose free

diet so that makes us have to follow a bit. I wish it was easier to find

veggie items like pastas but they all seem to have some sortof gluten/flour

in them.

Kathy

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From: " kitcurtin " <kitcurtin@...>

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Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 9:01 AM

Subject: Re: Is Normal Now A Mental Illness?

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> Kathy,

> Adult ADD.....It can be controlled with diet and lifestyle changes.

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> There are lots of adults with ADD.

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> Like me,

> Kit

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> > I have a hubby who has these problems......and no...I am not

> joking.....am completely serious here.

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> >

> > Kathy L.

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Nutritionists know squat about nutrition and health. Oops, did I really say that out loud?

Get yourself the book "Depression Free for Life" by Dr. Cousens MD. He talks about all sorts of mental "illness" and how to overcome it with diet alone. However it is radical because no cooking of food is involved. It is raw, vegan food.

There is a theory there is no such thing as mental illness, it's all related to food allergies, sensitivities, molds, chemicals, additives, preservatives, colorings, all the s*** we do to our food.

Throw out your stove and get healthy!

Shari

stoveless in Washington state

[Guest guest]

> Kathy,

> Adult ADD.....It can be controlled with diet and lifestyle changes.

>

> There are lots of adults with ADD.

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> Like me,

> Kit

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Congratulations to those with ADD. You are now promoted to the Quick

Smart label instead ;P

www.resultsproject.net

Are you Quick Smart or Multiple Thought Impaired?

(The Positives of having ADD)

By: Steve Plog - Results Project Founder

If you get divorced are you " Choice Impaired? " Then why on earth do

you call kids Attention Deficit if they simply don't like to focus on

boring things for long periods of time? First off, let me explain,

that I don't have a deficit, the Government does! Have you ever

noticed that everything a doctor diagnoses you with is a negative?

I don't mind labels, I just don't like negative labels. I'm a guy, my

mom is a girl. That is anatomically correct. Why don't we call the

kids what they really are. Notice that your ADD kid has a very high

IQ? Notice how your ADD kid is doing everything fast? How about we

call them " Quick Smart " instead? Would any child mind going into a

classroom if over the door it said, " Quick Smart Class " instead of

special needs class? Which one empowers the child and builds their

self-esteem and which one demoralizes them?

I get a kick out of people telling me that their child has a " problem "

with Attention Deficit. I was 39 before I found out that I also had a

" problem " with ADD. Funny how I could go 39 years without a problem

and now, as if by magic, I have a problem. A doctor officially

diagnosed me with having Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder in

1994.

Now there's a negative diagnosis if I have ever heard one. Half the

words in the name of my so-called problem are identifying me as a

loser. I now have a " Deficit, " I'm told! For the record, I don't have

a deficit – the federal government has that. I'm also told I have a

disorder. No, I'm not disorderly. I can stand on any street corner and

not get arrested for being disorderly.

So what do I have? I have a right-brain thinking apparatus. People

often refer to right-brained as being creative and left-brained as

being analytical. Let's look at who says I have a problem. We'll start

with the left-brain environment called school. Don't think it's a

left-brain environment?

I remember being told to sit quietly with my hands folded, feet

together and eyes forward (brain out the window.) Sound familiar?

Which part of this sounds like a creative environment? If you guessed

none you get an " A. " Now we're going to be graded on our ability to

fit in and function in a world we don't belong in or will ever get a

job in when we graduate.

Let me ask you some questions. Answer truthfully. There are tall

people and short people; which one is normal and fits in and which one

needs to be fixed? There are left-handed people and right-handed

people; which one is normal and fits in and which one needs to be

fixed? One more: there are people with long attention spans and other

people with short attention spans; which one is normal and fits in and

which one needs to be fixed?

I'm tall, I'm right-handed, and I have a short attention span. None of

these traits need to be fixed. Let's take a look at some people whose

biographies or life history indicate strong ADD or ADHD behaviors.

Famous people who appear to have ADD or ADHD behaviors.

Albert Einstein

Babe Ruth

Kirk

Malcolm Forbes

Harry Belafonte

Bernard Shaw

Issac Newton

Zsa Zsa Gabor

Carnegie

Sylvester Stallone

Louis Pasteur

Bruce Jenner

Cher

Henry Winkler

Edgar Allan Poe

Jordan

Ernest Hemingway

Marilyn Monroe

Eleanor Roosevelt

Abraham Lincoln

Tom Cruise

Ann Bancroft

Schwab

Steve McQueen

Leonardo da Vinci

Graham Bell

Tom Smothers

Napoleon Bonapart

Walt Disney

Agatha Christie

Jackie

Nostradamus

Henry Ford

Hawkings

van Gogh

Gen. Patton

Galileo

Eddie Rickenbacker

Robin

D. Rockefeller

Whoopi Goldberg

Bill Cosby

Stevie Wonder

Pete Rose

Randolph Hearst

Edison

Beethoven

Anwar Sadat

" Magic "

F. Fitzgerald

Burns

C.

F. Kennedy

lin

Prince

Spielberg

Lennon

Danny Glover

Winston Churchill

Mozart

Hoffman

The Brothers

Wagner

Pablo Picasso

Kennedy

Dwight D. Eisenhower

Jim Carrey

Jerry

Charlie Chaplin

Terry Bradshaw

Diamond Dallas Page

h [Mancow] Muller

Neeleman

Ray Robbins

Webmaster Bob

Steve Plog

It sounds to me that if someone says that you have ADD you should

consider it a compliment. In fact, looking at this very small list of

possibilities it looks like without people with ADD, nothing would get

done. Now let's take some of these famous people and see what they

would be like in today's world if they were in school or trying to

" fit in " at a job.

Let's take the first guy on the list, Albert Einstein. He didn't even

speak until he was 4 years old so today they would have put him on

Ritalin and locked him in a room with the learning disabled kids.

Remember, he flunked 6th grade math. That's right, he could do

calculus in his head but he flunked plain old math. So into the dummy

class he goes and he is given a lifetime of prescription drugs.

How about Bill Cosby? Instead of becoming a comedian, he gets a job

sitting in a tollbooth all day by himself. Day in and day out he just

gives change. The problem is he can't concentrate on the mundane and

he keeps losing money. So they fire him and tell anyone who asks them

for a recommendation, " He's so slow he can't count to 50! "

One more: Walt Disney. He gets a job working in an office cubicle and

spends his time daydreaming on what I refer to as " Mental HBO. " Until

his boss comes by for the 10th time that day and says " Walt, pay

attention, stop day dreaming, start concentrating and get to work

before I fire you! "

Wait, I know I said only one more, but I'm on a roll! Babe Ruth gets a

job as a CPA and his boss comes by his desk and asks, " Where's Ruth? "

To which his fellow employees say that Mr. Ruth is not back from lunch

yet and it's 1:15. " Tell Mister Ruth when he gets back to clean out

his desk, we don't want anyone working here who can't tell time. "

You see, if you evaluate extreme right-brained people only in

left-brain environments you get the wrong picture. Let's reverse it.

Let's take some left-brained people and see how they would fit into

the ADD creative world. OK?

Hold on a minute. I just hit writer's block because I'm trying to

think of some very boring, timely, regimental, stick in the mud,

left-brained people with good memories who are famous. Can someone

give me a hint just to get me started? There must be someone . . . .

Ok, let's take someone we know is smart, like a college professor -

how about the professor from the Gilligan's Island TV show. Do you

remember his name? I don't. He was a nice guy, but not very exciting.

Ok, so let's say that Walt Disney lost his mind, and put old what's –

his – name (I still can't remember his name!) in charge of his

creative department for new projects. What would the outcome be?

Regular Duck, Mundane Mouse, Snow Beige and the Seven Height-Impaired

People. Who wants to go see the movie? Come on, let's see those hands.

Anyone, anyone at all? Why is everyone staring out the windows? Are

you all daydreaming? Hey, we have a hand up! No, wait, that person

said his name is Bill Gates, and when I said " windows " he said it gave

him an idea.

Yes we daydream, that's how creative people come up with ideas like

figuring out how to harness electricity after watching a thunderstorm.

You will find we have a low threshold of boredom. We go into what I

call " Mental HBO. " Not only can I daydream while you talk to me, I can

daydream while I talk to you. As a matter of fact I'm doing it right

now while I'm typing because I can think of more than one thing at a

time. My thoughts are multifaceted while the left-brained people are

what I would diagnose as " Multiple thought impaired! "

I'm ADD and you're " Multiple Thought Impaired. " Someone should start a

charity for you. I can see the ads now: " Send in your donation for

those who have never had an original thought in their life! " Someone

get me Jerry ' phone number! Will he listen to me? Yes of course,

and I'll give you three guesses why. Watch one of his old movies and

picture him at the tollbooth.

So far, everyone keeps looking at ADD through the left-brained

mentality. Let's look at the positive traits that are the opposite of

everything they say is wrong with us.

MTI View of ADD

The Positive Side of ADD

Easily distracted

Constantly monitoring environment

Attention span is short, but can become intensely focused for long

periods of time.

Able to throw themselves into the chase on a moment's notice.

Poor planner, disorganized and impulsive; makes snap decisions.

Flexible; ready to change strategy quickly.

Distorted sense of time: unaware of how long it will take to do

something.

Tireless: capable of sustained drives, but only when " hot on the

trail " of some goal.

Impatient.

Results oriented NOW!

Doesn't convert words into concepts adeptly, and vice versa. Slow

reader.

Visual or concrete thinker, clearly seeing a tangible goal even if

there are no words for it.

Has difficulty following instructions.

Independent, entrepreneurial, born leader.

Daydreamer.

Bored by mundane tasks; enjoy new ideas, excitement, " the hunt, " or

the journey.

Acts without considering consequences.

Willing and able to take risks and face danger.

Lacking in the social graces.

No time for niceties when there are decisions

to be made.

Now take a look at our list of famous ADD people and see if you can

spot the traits on the right side of this chart in all of the people

listed. Now who truly has the problem and who needs to be fixed?

Do you still think having ADD Traits are so bad? Visit this link and

take a look at a long list of ADD traits. And if you recognize

yourself in here, rejoice!

50 (or so) Great Things About Having ADD!

Can you imagine what the list for left-brained people would look like?

Zzzzzzzzz. Is being ADD ever a problem? Is being boring ever a

problem? Nobody is right the way they are all the time. Ok, I know

what you're thinking – " Being ADD does have some drawbacks, doesn't

it? " Yup, and being tall I sometimes bump my head. But for the sake of

argument, let's tackle some of these so-called problems that kids have

with ADD.

So-called problem #1: he can't sit still in school and pay attention.

So what's your point? Name one job that pays you to sit still, quietly

with your hands folded, feet together and your eyes forward. Not one?

So he can't do something he's never going to have to do in his life?

Sounds like a zero problem to me. Here's my question: do you want him

to pay attention and learn or do you want him to sit quietly bound and

gagged for hours on end? ADD people can learn while they're moving

around!

Here are some success stories that might help illustrate what I'm

talking about regarding learning to study " ADD Style. " The first is

from Carolyn, who is blessed with , age 12, who is positively

ADHD and proud of it.

Carolyn's Story

came home one day and I brought him to a special table Mr.

Plog had told me to prepare. In the middle of the room stood this

table with extensions on the legs making it chest high to .

When he stood next to the table it was writing height and there was no

chair to sit on because it was made to be used standing.

I told " I've decided you never `have' to do homework again.

It's your choice and it's totally up to you. " Steve was right, at this

time I had his total attention, you could have heard a pin drop! I

went on, " I have decided that you will determine if you want to do

your homework or not. " I can honestly say I've never seen a bigger

smile in my life.

I told him to come over to the table and look at the 15 minute timer I

had sitting on the table. There were also comic books, a big sheet of

white paper covering the whole table, crayons and his toys. I told him

that I was going to ask him if he had homework when he comes home

tomorrow and if he does then he has to stand at the table for 15

minutes to the second. After 15 minutes to the second he can go play

for 15 minutes to the second. After playtime I would ask him if he had

homework and if he said yes then he had to go back to the table for

another 15 minutes.

Now the difference is I'm not telling him to do his homework. I'm just

telling him the consequences if he still has some. This takes me, the

teacher and everyone else out of the loop and puts the responsibility

on . I'm not saying he has to do his homework, I'm just telling

him he'll have to go back and forth every 15 minutes until he turns 18

and moves out of the house.

So the next day comes home and I ask him " do you have

homework? " He said " yes " and I told him to stand at the table. For the

first 3 minutes he started to do his homework and then started reading

his comic books. Ding! The 15 minutes were up and I told him to go

play. He walked right over to the TV and sat down. Exactly 15 minutes

to the second I pulled the cord out of the wall.

When he started to object, I escorted him to the table and told him

" we will not be waiting until there is a commercial or until the scene

is over. We will not be negotiating anything, period. It will be 15

minutes to the second. " ADD people will not take no for an answer,

they will stretch anything out until they wear you out. Mr. Plog was

very adamant that there be no pushing the time back. No changing the

rules, no adjustments, no exceptions, nothing, zero, nada, zip, zilch.

At the table again started doing his homework and made it

about 5 minutes before he was back to the comic book. Ding. At exactly

15 minutes to the second I said, " go play. " took one look at

the TV (all shows are at least 30 minutes) and figured that was not

going to work. So he started playing Nintendo.

Ding. Exactly 15 minutes to the second I pulled the plug out of the

wall and he screamed, " Wait! " No, I told him, if you wanted to save

the game you should have done it before the bell. Back to the table we

go. then did an amazing thing; he started doing his homework

and stayed concentrating on it for the full 15 minutes! He was still

working when the bell went off again.

Ding. Exactly 15 minutes later I said, " OK go play. " He smiled and

said, " great I'm almost done. " I took the pen out of his hand and said

" go play. " said " give me the pen back, I'm almost done. " I

told him " no you can't be here now, because you can only be here for

15 minutes. " He persisted " Mom, I'm almost done. " I said " I know but

that's the way the game is played. " He still persisted.

Do you catch this argument? is saying let me do my homework

and mom is saying no you have to go play! Isn't that happening all

over America today? ADD kids are begging to do their homework and moms

are forcing them to go play.

For 15 minutes paced the floor eating a PB & J with milk

waiting, waiting. (What's he waiting for? To do his homework! Isn't

that the case all over America, ADD kids pacing the floor waiting for

their moms to let them finish their homework?) Ding. races

back to his stand up desk and finishes the work in 2 minutes flat and

says " see, I told you I was almost done. " I smiled and said " I believe

you, but that's the way the game is played. You can only be at the

table for 15 minutes.

(You see when an ADD child is told to sit there until they are done

they will start to daydream after a few minutes and could be there all

day. The emphasis is that you can only be at the desk for 15 minutes,

period. You now have a deadline. We have built in the procrastination

factor for you.)

came home the next day and walked straight to the stand up

desk and wham! He finished his homework in 15 minutes flat. Now the

amazing thing is that his teacher had given him 45 minutes worth of

homework. Maybe for the " multiple thought impaired " children in his

class, but not ! Mr. Plog told him that if his brain were

powering a racecar and the other kids in his class had their brains

powering a racecar; his would be the fastest car on the track.

The game now plays against himself is if he can do his

homework in one sitting then he did it ADD speed. If he does it in two

sittings then he did it slug speed. 's grades have gone from

D's to B's with this simple little game plus those little chewable

fruit and vegetable pills that we use from the Results Program. Now

he's doing homework ADD Style!

Teacher's Story

" I told Mr. Plog that I couldn't even get my ADD class to sit down and

take roll in the morning. Then he told me to take roll ADD Style.

After he explained it I tried it the very next day. I told the class

that everyone who is sitting down in their chair and answers when

their name is called gets to have recess from 8:30am until 8:50am,

right at the start of the day. Well, would you believe that eight of

those kids thought that standing over their chair, or touching the

chair or sitting in someone else's chair counted?

" I told those eight kids to sit with their hands folded, feet

together, against the wall and be quiet while the other kids played

right in front of them for 20 minutes! Then I have roll call again

after lunch and we do this again. Would you believe that in just one

day everyone is sitting quietly in his or her own chair waiting to

qualify for recess? I now have four breaks in the day, which means I

have four hours of concentration and attention instead of five hours

of space cadets. "

Life in the ADD fast lane

Let me explain what it's like to listen to the multiple thought

impaired all day long. Have you ever visited your grandparents who are

over 90 in the rest home and really listened to them for a while? Kind

of slow huh? Well now picture that you are visiting people that seem

that slow and you talk to them 5 hours a day, 12 years in a row.

(That's what school was like for me.) Have you ever listened to

someone who stutters really badly? Have you ever listened to someone

who had too much to drink tell a really long boring story? If you have

done at least one of these you know what you sound like when you talk

to us. Reallllll slowwwwww.

The reason we're not listening is because we can't concentrate on too

much dead air, as they say in radio land. Our minds think real fast,

we listen fast, and we talk fast. Try staring at a wall and

concentrating on the wall itself. That is what a conversation with you

is like. Take an 8-year-old with ADD and try talking faster. Guess

what? You got his attention. Use small words and just talk fast.

Let me explain something. Let's say two people of the same age and

athletic ability decide to exercise. One walks 2 hours a day for a

year and the other runs 2 hours a day for a year. Guess who has the

strongest legs? The runner! Now think of your ADD brain as the runner

and the multiple thought impaired brain as the walker and guess who

has the most developed brain? Speed up the conversation and you have

instant attention.

It's simple logic. ADD people have a short attention span and think

real fast, so how should they do anything? Fast and in short spurts.

How should you teach them? How should they do their jobs? Fast and in

short spurts.

We're just fine thank you. I happen to be blessed with a very creative

mind with a short memory. So when someone calls and says let's get

together for lunch day after tomorrow I say great, call me back and

remind me. If they say write it down, I tell them, " no I'll just lose

the piece of paper and besides you're the multiple thought impaired

rocket scientist with the great memory, so you remember to remind me. "

I stopped apologizing for being creative a long time ago. Others call

it a short attention span. I correct them and tell them " it keeps the

creative juices flowing, thank you. " Ten minutes after I meet someone

at a party, right in front of 20 people I'll ask them their name

again. I say, " sorry, I forgot your name. " Then five minutes later

I'll ask again. When they say " you have a bad memory " I say " I

couldn't fit creativity and memory in the same head, so boring lost

out. "

What about drugs, behavior modification, lists, organization charts?

Sounds like some good topics for some opportunist to sell a lot of

" how to " material. You take a duck and send him to eagle school to

learn how to hunt. First day out the new eagle school graduate spots a

squirrel and then you know what happens? The duck makes friends with

the squirrel! Why? Because he's a duck!

Self Esteem

When kids are in school they are fighting for an identity. They are

searching for self-esteem and trying to find out where they fit in.

Little things like a bad haircut can set them back 6 months. Their ego

is very fragile at that age. Right in the middle of trying to fit in,

the people they trust the most, their parents, doctors and teachers,

point their finger at them and say " You have ADD! " and " There is

something wrong with you, you're going to have to go to Special Class.

" Now try to fit in. Yeah, right. I just get to the batter's box to

find out I get to start with 2 strikes against me in the game of life.

Forget that! By the way, what do kids call the special class? Dummy or

retard class.

I tried to fit in and compete academically for eight years. All I

could get was a D average. By the time I got to high school I couldn't

take it anymore. My self-esteem couldn't take it anymore. I tried to

study but I just didn't get it. My ego was taking a beating every time

they would pass the test back down the line with my grade stamped in a

big red letter " D " and everyone got to see it. So I decided to compete

in something else. Class clown and troublemaker. If the teacher called

on me I made jokes or would argue. This way my self-esteem was intact

because my identity wasn't student, it was school hood. In 1973, in my

junior year at High School in Portland, Oregon, I rode my

motorcycle right through the front door of the school and right down

the main hall and right into jail, all on the idea that finals were

coming next week.

Have you ever noticed that auto manufacturers only make one model of

car on any one assembly line? No, each model comes from a different

line or even a different manufacturing plant. If industry realizes

this efficiency, why does our educational system try to make Chevrolet

kids from the parts of our Cadillac kids? Maybe the real problem with

our school system is that with the funds available for education, they

can only cater to the majority of the ( " average " ) kids that can't

learn as fast. And the teachers don't have the time or ability to

teach the kids at their individual learning pace. So they have to try

to do the best they can for the majority.

You see, if I could have competed academically, I would have. I just

didn't have any idea how. Now, oddly enough there is research dating

back to 1962 showing that nutritional therapy works. There is research

proving that nutrition can increase academics and lower violence. Have

you ever noticed that psychiatric doctors never provide a " cure " for a

" disorder, " they only prescribe a " treatment for a symptom? " Instead

of taking psychotropic drugs to put me into a stupor and slow me down,

I'm now eating fruit and vegetable supplements and concentrating on

living ADD-style and life is great for me. I wouldn't give up my ADD

for anything in the world.

Drugs

Ok, let's talk about some real silly logic. Everyone in the D.A.R.E.

program is telling kids from one end of this planet to the other that

smoking pot leads to cocaine. Now there is not one single molecule in

pot that is in cocaine. Not one, you still with me? Now Ritalin has

90% of the exact same compounds as cocaine and no one is mentioning

that Ritalin leads to cocaine. Confused? I am. Now here's another

little fun fact. According to the Physicians Desk Reference and the

FDA, both Ritalin and cocaine are class 2 drugs.

Meaning they are both just about as toxic, addicting and dangerous in

eyes of the medical community. So your child goes to school and on one

side of the hall they are saying don't buy a Class II drug from your

best friend, and on the other side of the hall they are giving a Class

II drug to your sister. You're confused, so you go to your high school

library and hit the Internet and look them both up and discover they

are almost identical. In your teenage thinking, either they are both

OK or they are both not OK.

You look up Ritalin and discover that Sweden, the country that makes

it, outlawed it in the 1980's! Wake up parents, you have the

information superhighway going straight into your kids bedroom and you

as a parent can't justify telling your kid to stay off drugs when your

doctor is prescribing the exact same level of drug to his sister.

All over the Internet they are telling your children that every single

one of the children who shot other kids in school were on a

prescription drug. (You know, the same one you're giving his sister.)

Your children are more up on drugs than you ever were. They don't

listen to you because you are uninformed. They are the authority, not

you. Kids research things that they are interested in.

Having Fun Getting High

I'm an ex-drug and alcohol abuser. I now do seminars against drug

abuse and drinking and I will start the meeting by spending a full

fifteen minutes telling what a great time I had getting high. When

Reagan started that ad " Just Say No " all of us renamed it " Just

Say Now. " What did she know about drugs? My parents said they were bad

for me and I was escaping reality. I didn't listen to them because

they didn't know what they were talking about. They were right, but

they didn't know what they were talking about.

I didn't start taking drugs and drinking until my junior year in high

school. Then I read everything I could get my hands on about drugs. I

was curious and I wanted to know what I was doing. Even way back then

we had underground drug information; heck, we even had a national

magazine that is still around today called " High Times. " I became an

informed party animal. This is what nobody is addressing, the fact

that kids are more informed than their parents and teachers about

drugs. They are on the Internet getting well educated on something

that interests them. I was the expert, not the adults.

When my dad told me that drug users were just escaping from reality, I

laughed. At that time for fun I rode a motorcycle, went skiing,

hiking, fishing and got high. I didn't ride my bike every day, or

fish, ski, hike or get high every day. They were all recreation. When

I rode my bike was I escaping from reality? Heck, no, I was just

having fun. When I got high was I escaping from reality? Heck, no, I

thought I was just having fun.

Getting high was a great icebreaker for meeting new people or getting

a girl to talk to you, especially if you're shy. After I was getting

high for a while things didn't seem to be as much fun as I thought.

One of my friends got a 15-year-old girl pregnant. Another one killed

a girl walking across the street while he was driving drunk. One of my

friends died riding his bike into a truck at 70 mph. My own

brother-in-law almost killed himself and his brother on a bike driving

way to fast.

The reason I talk first about having fun with drugs is because unless

they think you know what you are talking about they won't listen. In

your job right now have you ever had someone talk to you about your

work, and they didn't know what they were talking about? How long did

you listen? Right!

Now, how are you going to tell your kid not to take a class 2 drug

from his friends when you are giving a class 2 drug made out of the

same things to his kid sister? If you don't make sense to your kids

they're not going to listen. Your kids have also checked out the web

to see who is paying the school districts to put kids on drugs. In

1985 Congress passed the Individual Development Education Assistance

Act (I.D.E.A.), giving funds in the billions to subsidize schools with

kids who have learning disabilities.

Here's the way it works: the US Government will give up to $450 and

the state will give up to $160 to a school for each student who is

labeled with a learning disability. Let's do some math. At my old high

school we had 2000 kids. The school figures about 10% have ADD, which

is about 200 kids. You multiply 200 x $600 and that school gets over

$120,000 per year for putting kids on drugs that are in the same FDA

schedule classification as cocaine. Now how are you going to tell them

not to take drugs? I've been there and I can't figure out a way to

justify both positions. You shouldn't be taking either one.

Nutrition Deficit Disorder. (N.D.D.)

In this web site, the research provided and the school program show

that most kids suffer from N.D.D. and you can turn around kids who are

failing and violent with Nutrition Therapy. With nutrition your

children can keep clear eyes instead of that drugged out bland look

you get when you're on drugs. They keep their personality, spirit,

curiosity, enthusiasm, health and mental capacity to achieve. The

research and the school results prove that nutrition is safe and it

works. The research and news headlines prove that drugs are dangerous.

Seems like a no-brainer to me.

You can take nutrition at the same time you take the drugs. Then

slowly cut back the drugs until you don't need them anymore. Can you

think or any downside to doing this? So, if it's safe, natural and has

no side effects, and you have nothing to lose and everything to gain,

what are you waiting for?

Steve V. Plog - ADhD

[Guest guest]

I'm a little slow on the uptake when it comes to current movies...no

TV but I can watch videos...and rarely go to the video store. I have

had WTBDWK recommended to me when it came out....still haven't seen

it...see how slow I am. Quantam physics blows my mind...did you know

they have teletransportation worked out?! And, expect to be able to

TT a small mass in the near future!

I just came across this and bookmarked it haven't had time to read it

all yet.

Hinduism & Quantum Physics

http://www.hinduism.co.za/hinduism.htm

Below are the last paragraphs of the " Hurry Sickness " piece....any

" type A's " out there?

If our health is coupled with the perpetuation of our genes, it is

also tied to our association with members of our species. As

G.G.Simpson has said in 'Life of the Past':

" No animal or plant lives alone or is self-sustaining. All live in

communities including other members of their own species and also a

number, usually a large variety, of other sorts of animals and plants.

The quest to be alone is indeed a futile one, never successfully

followed in the history of life. "

The psychological effects of urgency - stress, anxiety, tension- do

not stay in the psyche. They are translated into the body where they

eventuate in physical ailments. The sense of urgency generates

infirmity, disease and death.

In contrast, the psychological sense that accompanies the perception

of time as static and nonflowing is one of tranquility, serenity and

peace. It is the sense of oneness of unity, the feeling of calm and

release. Mind and body are intrinsically united, and consciousness is

the fulcrum of health.

Hmmm, did I just make a quantum leap? LOL, Kit

-- In health , " SV " <shavig@v...> wrote:

> Saw " Supersize Me " many months ago. Have you seen " What The Bleep

Do We Know " ? That is even better! It's not about food, but about

life and existence - quantum physics.

>

> Shari