Re: Re: It IS THE FORMER not LATTER :>)

[Guest guest]

Well if people are getting WELL after YEARS of suffering--AND saving money--I

say that is ALL RIGHT!!!!!LouiseIf we release people to their best and full

potential, without envy or jealousy on our parts: the good that we wish will

descend upon us as well. We shall then receive the desires of our hearts!

~Author unknown

From: algaelady1 <carol@...>

Subject: Re: It IS THE FORMER not LATTER :>)

candidiasis

Date: Friday, March 18, 2011, 7:58 AM

I think this forum is turning into Wil's marketplace.

>

> DISCOUNT? NOT WHATSOEVER!!! ..Wil just makes his products SO GOOD * & *

affordable,

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[Guest guest]

I think you should reconsider your statement, Carol.

I am here to share with you all of the program I have developed over the years

of suffering from a fungal/candida overgrowth personally. It just so happens

that it actually works very well.

I am honored to be helping so many of you in your healing and recovery.

Thank you all for sharing your story with this group. Your story is important in

helping each other. I thought that this is what these forums are for? Sharing

information and stories?

Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath, author, researcher

www.bodyelectrician.com

________________________________

From: algaelady1 <carol@...>

candidiasis

Sent: Fri, March 18, 2011 7:58:51 AM

Subject: Re: It IS THE FORMER not LATTER :>)

I think this forum is turning into Wil's marketplace.

>

> DISCOUNT? NOT WHATSOEVER!!! ..Wil just makes his products SO GOOD * & *

>affordable,

>

[Guest guest]

Will, I agree that this forum's main objective is to allow people to help each

other. The problem with s 's comments is that she doesn't take into

consideration the consequences. Every person's body is different and each of

our problems do not happen in a vacuum. Please see my reply to Carol......

" I'm one of those people that could start off very slow (one dropper) and

still have very bad side effects. We aren't just dealing with candida, most

times. I have adrenal fatigue, hypothyroidism, low cortisol and now my doctor

is saying I possibly have diabetes insipidus (does not affect sugar, but instead

has to do with water, salt , potassium, calcium levels....) Each person has a

totally different problem and they can affect one another. If I only had

candida maybe certain supplements wouldn't bother me so. I would like people

to remember that their success story is wonderful to hear about but their path

may actually hurt another that follows. "

What I am saying is that your product may be good for some people but you can

not, in good conscience, say that it is good for everyone with candida. This

forum is to discuss what works for us while taking into consideration all of our

ailments. I look for advice from people that have similar diagnoses. I've had

adverse effects from things that don't normally bother someone with candida,

alone.......Things my naturopath has tried to put me on. She says that she is

learning more about this from hearing about my experiences. She sees that my

endocrine problems are influencing my recovery so we have to go slow and try

things on a much smaller scale.

It's great that you are trying to help people after your own journey from

sickness to health. Very admirable. Even more admirable is putting other

people's health ahead of our own ego and admitting that you cannot solve

everyone's health problems with your products. It is just not possible.

Remember, everyone person's body is different. No blanket statements can be

made.

Respectfully,

Milena

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From: Wil Spencer <wilspencer@...>

candidiasis

Sent: Fri, March 18, 2011 10:36:41 AM

Subject: Re: Re: It IS THE FORMER not LATTER :>)

I think you should reconsider your statement, Carol.

I am here to share with you all of the program I have developed over the years

of suffering from a fungal/candida overgrowth personally. It just so happens

that it actually works very well.

I am honored to be helping so many of you in your healing and recovery.

Thank you all for sharing your story with this group. Your story is important in

helping each other. I thought that this is what these forums are for? Sharing

information and stories?

Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath, author, researcher

www.bodyelectrician.com

________________________________

From: algaelady1 <carol@...>

candidiasis

Sent: Fri, March 18, 2011 7:58:51 AM

Subject: Re: It IS THE FORMER not LATTER :>)

I think this forum is turning into Wil's marketplace.

>

> DISCOUNT? NOT WHATSOEVER!!! ..Wil just makes his products SO GOOD * & *

>affordable,

>

[Guest guest]

Couple things. In re-reading your email below, Milena, I recognized many of the

symptoms you are fighting as ones I have/had been too!! And I am experientially

discovering that malnutrition has really been a HUGE factor in my body's illness

on so many levels.. Too many high carbs, not enough probiotics, woefully low on

minerals without which the body can't even metabolize the vitamins from the food

that we eat (think I got that right..).. And so on. Well I am making big changes

and though still have to adhere to the strict diet have been on, I can do

cultured milk again thankfully.. I actually have not needed vitamins for months

now--which I used to need every day and super high power food-based ones--as I

am now taking state-of-the-art colloidal minerals. [so the minerals are pulling

the vitamins from the food I eat, now.] Amazing!! And my energy level is getting

better all the time, proof this path is working..

So all of this is to say, if I have had many of your own symptoms and I am

dealing with them nutritionally and this is helping, perhaps there is yet hope

for you too.. I am believing for the best, for ALL of us here!

The best to you--hoping this helps!Louise

From: Wil <wilspencer@...>

Subject: Re: It IS THE FORMER not LATTER :>)

candidiasis

Date: Saturday, March 19, 2011, 11:00 PM

I am so sorry you feel this way, Milena.

I will step out on the limb and will say some blanket things. As I know

these blanket things are true and with my case studies and experiences

they are accurate.

I have a core program that I use, with small variations to compensate

for some symptoms, to help people reverse and heal some 2,500 symptoms.

In years I have not found anyone who did not follow along that did not

get results.

In my world, Milena, you are suffering from the same things;

malnutrition, toxins and a fungal systemic loading.

A few years ago I came to the awareness of treating symptoms. I do not

treat them anymore. I have found a much more sustainable and easier way

to achieve Vibrant Health. And that is to feed the body what it needs to

heal, get the loud distracting voice in the head to quiet down and to

kill the systemic fungus. And I am saying it is a blanket effect.

I am saying this with compassion as well as conviction, with a file

cabinet full of case studies to back me up and a growing list of

testimonies.

I am so thankful for all the new information coming out in the last year

from Russia and Germany which is saying some of the things I am saying.

For those who care to check it out just google; German New Medicine and

Dr. Hammer, for starters.

From me experience and investigation, Candida over growth is not the

real problem. Candida is a result of the problem. If our body would not

have a food source for Candida, it would not be there. Candida uses as

its food source; dead, dying or damaged tissue. The real problem is what

is causing the food source for the candida?

And one other thing I would like to share; My view, of your comment, we

are different. In some reality you are correct, but biologically we are

not. We all have a stomach, intestines, eyes and so on. I do not mean to

over simplify things, but in my view the education and medical system

makes things much more complicated than they really are. And this is for

a reason, in my opinion, and that is so you go to them for your help

instead of  trusting yourself.

Now before you take this the wrong way, I am only sharing my thoughts. I

am just speaking from my heart here.

Thank you,

Wil

>

> Will, I agree that this forum's main objective is to allow people to

help each

> other.  The problem with s 's comments is that she doesn't

take into

> consideration the consequences.  Every person's body is different and

each of

> our problems do not happen in a vacuum.  Please see my reply to

Carol......

>

> "   I'm one of those people that could start off very slow (one

dropper) and

> still have very bad side effects.  We aren't just dealing with

candida, most

> times.  I have adrenal fatigue, hypothyroidism, low cortisol and now

my doctor

> is saying I possibly have diabetes insipidus (does not affect sugar,

but instead

> has to do with water, salt , potassium, calcium levels....)  Each

person has a

> totally different problem and they can affect one another.  If I only

had

> candida maybe certain  supplements wouldn't bother me so.  I would

like people

> to remember that their success story is wonderful to hear about but

their path

> may actually hurt another that follows. "

>

>

> What I am saying is that your product may be good for some people but

you can

> not, in good conscience, say that it is good for everyone with

candida.  This

> forum is to discuss what works for us while taking into consideration

all of our

> ailments.  I look for advice from people that have similar diagnoses.

I've had

> adverse effects from things that don't normally bother someone with

candida,

> alone.......Things my naturopath has tried to put me on.  She says

that she is

> learning more about this from hearing about my experiences.  She sees

that my

> endocrine problems are influencing my recovery so we have to go slow

and try

> things on a much smaller scale.

>

> It's great that you are trying to help people after your own journey

from

> sickness to health.  Very admirable.  Even more admirable is putting

other

> people's health ahead of our own ego and admitting that you cannot

solve

> everyone's health problems with your products.  It is just not

possible.

>  Remember, everyone person's body is different.  No blanket statements

can be

> made.

>

> Respectfully,

> Milena

>

>

>

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