weight gain

[Guest guest]

Sheila, you're right I checked the calendar and I have upped the dose

of Armour quicker than I intended, must WRITE THINGS DOWN in future. I

got too cocky when the brain fog disappeared. I've held at the same

dose, but feeling worse this morning. beginning to think this is

menopause symptoms returning and/or flu.

Helen x

>

> First, tell me what dose you started taking and take me through your

increase regime. To get up to 3 grains after only 2 months seems a tad

too quick.

>

>

[Guest guest]

How long have you been on the dose you are taking right now Helen?

Luv - Sheila

Sheila, you're right I checked the calendar and I have upped the dose of Armour quicker than I intended, must WRITE THINGS DOWN in future. I got too cocky when the brain fog disappeared. I've held at the same dose, but feeling worse this morning. beginning to think this is menopause symptoms returning and/or flu.Helen x>> First, tell me what dose you started taking and take me through your increase regime. To get up to 3 grains after only 2 months seems a tad too quick.> >

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[Guest guest]

Sheila,

I've been taking 2.5 grains (2+0.5)sublingually for the last 16 days.

Helen x

>

> How long have you been on the dose you are taking right now Helen?

>

> Luv - Sheila

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Helen. If you have no adverse reactions during the next few days, it might be a good idea to increase again by another half grain. Adverse reactions can be palpitations, goiong a bit dizzy, shakiness, feeling 'spaced-out' and generally unwell. This is a sign that your body has the amount of thyroid hormone it needs - especially the T3, and you just need to stop your last increase and go back to the dose you were on previously. As you have been 16 days on your last dose, I doubt you will be getting any adverse reactions with your latest increase. They usually happen pretty soon after you increase the dose.

Luv - Sheila

Sheila,I've been taking 2.5 grains (2+0.5)sublingually for the last 16 days.Helen x>> How long have you been on the dose you are taking right now Helen?> > Luv - Sheila> >

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[Guest guest]

We are registered with a particular GP in our practice however they

will allow you to see another if yours is not available.

Luv Dawn

[Guest guest]

Thanks Sheila,

I've upped NAE to 5 and the Armour to 3 yesterday and feeling OK.

Swelling in my ankles and legs has gone down and my hormones seem to

have settled down too so there's obviously a menopause influence in

all this.

I'm so grateful for the help and information.

Helen x

> >

> > How long have you been on the dose you are taking right now

Helen?

> >

> > Luv - Sheila

> >

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[Guest guest]

Hi everyone,

Thank you for the warm welcome to your group. It is very pleasant to be in a

group that is loving and kind to each other.

I hope you will accept me even though I don't have fibromyalgia. I'm not

selling any products or services. I just want to be able to help people once

in a while with some information.

I'm not a naturopath or an MD. My formal credential is a PhD in engineering.

However, my real credential is that I used to be ill with Candidiasis / gut

issues. I got interested in Fibromyalgia from talking to many people with

Fibromyalgia who also had gut issues.

I'd like to make a comment about Nadine's statement:

" I don't " pig " out, and I'm even on Synthroid. My doctor tried a stronger

dose just to see what would happen, and I gained even more weight! I am

beyond discouraged about it. "

When you give Synthroid (or T4 thyroid) to a person who is having trouble

converting it into T3, you end up suppressing thyroid in those tissues that

are not converting it well. Nadine, this could very well be the reason that

more Synthroid made you gain weight. What you need is T3, not more T4. In

fact, large amounts of T3 is a fairly well known treatment for fibromyalgia.

What follows is a short excerpt about this T3 treatment from a free ebook

that I wrote on fibromyalgia.

People with fibromyalgia often (not always) need a special type of thyroid

replacement therapy. Dr. Lowe's patients are sometimes placed on a lot of T3

thyroid combined with a nominal amount of T4 thyroid or a nominal amount of

desiccated thyroid. The patients are slowly worked up to relatively high

doses of T3 thyroid. Effective dosages of T3 range from 75 µg to 150 µg,

whereas normal replacement dosages are from 25 to 75 µg. This much thyroid

can be TSH-suppressive. Yet the amount of thyroid is kept below that which

would cause thyrotoxicity and muscle weakness. (Both too much and too little

thyroid will cause muscle weakness.) This is Dr. Lowe's website:

www.DrLowe.com Dr. Lowe is the author of the book Speeding Up to Normal:

Metabolic Solutions to Fibromyalgia. Besides using thyroid to improve

metabolism, he advocates nutrients, diet modification, exercise and the

elimination of narcotic pain medications. These also affect metabolism.

If you want to take a look at the whole free book that I wrote about

Fibromyalgia, it is the seventh of the PDF books found at:

http://www.healthyawareness.com/forum/default.asp?b=43

Polly

[Guest guest]

I also think its important to remember, that while it is good to be at a healthy weight, what the media portary as an ideal weight isn't really all that realistic. There is some evidence that being slight overweight isn't really all that big of a deal from a health standpoint. Point being, I hope that none of us get to wrapped up in an number (ie weight) and worry more about healthy eating and healthy habits.

Blessed be

liz

On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 2:36 PM, Polly Hattemer <PollyHattemer@...> wrote:

Hi everyone,Thank you for the warm welcome to your group. It is very pleasant to be in a group that is loving and kind to each other.I hope you will accept me even though I don't have fibromyalgia. I'm not

selling any products or services. I just want to be able to help people once in a while with some information.I'm not a naturopath or an MD. My formal credential is a PhD in engineering. However, my real credential is that I used to be ill with Candidiasis / gut

issues. I got interested in Fibromyalgia from talking to many people with Fibromyalgia who also had gut issues.I'd like to make a comment about Nadine's statement: " I don't " pig " out, and I'm even on Synthroid. My doctor tried a stronger

dose just to see what would happen, and I gained even more weight! I am beyond discouraged about it. " When you give Synthroid (or T4 thyroid) to a person who is having trouble converting it into T3, you end up suppressing thyroid in those tissues that

are not converting it well. Nadine, this could very well be the reason that more Synthroid made you gain weight. What you need is T3, not more T4. In fact, large amounts of T3 is a fairly well known treatment for fibromyalgia.

What follows is a short excerpt about this T3 treatment from a free ebook that I wrote on fibromyalgia.People with fibromyalgia often (not always) need a special type of thyroid replacement therapy. Dr. Lowe's patients are sometimes placed on a lot of T3

thyroid combined with a nominal amount of T4 thyroid or a nominal amount of desiccated thyroid. The patients are slowly worked up to relatively high doses of T3 thyroid. Effective dosages of T3 range from 75 µg to 150 µg,

whereas normal replacement dosages are from 25 to 75 µg. This much thyroid can be TSH-suppressive. Yet the amount of thyroid is kept below that which would cause thyrotoxicity and muscle weakness. (Both too much and too little

thyroid will cause muscle weakness.) This is Dr. Lowe's website: www.DrLowe.com Dr. Lowe is the author of the book Speeding Up to Normal: Metabolic Solutions to Fibromyalgia. Besides using thyroid to improve

metabolism, he advocates nutrients, diet modification, exercise and the elimination of narcotic pain medications. These also affect metabolism.If you want to take a look at the whole free book that I wrote about

Fibromyalgia, it is the seventh of the PDF books found at:http://www.healthyawareness.com/forum/default.asp?b=43Polly

[Guest guest]

Hi everyone

did anyone gain weight with the injections if they didnt stick to the

diet or calories? I ask because I have read on other sites that if you

deviate even a little from the diet and go over the 500 calories you

will gain weight.

I havent started yet as my supplies havent come but I want to loose

about 10 pounds but I am worried I dont have the will power. The last

thing I want is to gain

any advise would be appreciated

[Guest guest]

Yes, you will gain rapidly if you eat alot more than the 500 calories with hCG in your system. Page 52 of Pounds and Inches explains this: "Patients who need to lose 15 pounds (7 kg.) or less require 26 days treatment with 23 daily injections. The extra three days are needed because all patients must continue the 500-Calorie diet for three days after the last injection. This is a very essential part of the treatment, because if they start eating normally as long as there is even a trace of HCG in their body they put on weight alarmingly at the end of the treatment. After three days when all the HCG has been eliminated this does not happen, because the blood is then no longer saturated with food and can thus accommodate an extra influx from the intestines without increasing its volume by retaining water."

CC

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Hi everyonedid anyone gain weight with the injections if they didnt stick to the diet or calories? I ask because I have read on other sites that if you deviate even a little from the diet and go over the 500 calories you will gain weight.I havent started yet as my supplies havent come but I want to loose about 10 pounds but I am worried I dont have the will power. The last thing I want is to gainany advise would be appreciated

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[Guest guest]

>

> I am starting to worry. I had gotten down to 151 in the first

month

> or two of your plan(even worried the weight loss would not stop).

> But now it seems to be creeping back on. I am now 164 . My

> highest was 265. So I get very nervous that it wil ALL come back.

>

> I do not know if this means my body is toxic again and packing on

the

> fat as protection. The only non-organic non free range thing I eat

> is pork rinds and I have cut those back(I found pastured pork

> cracklins:) I do think a lb or two is from constipation but the

rest

> I am not sure.

>

> Here is a sample of the things I eat:

> spiced pate ( homemade)

> fake cream

> 4-5 eggs for breakfast swimming in vco

> egg milk

> safe lunch meat and hot dogs

> garlic stuff olives

> homecooked pork, beef, lamb etc (all of good quality)

> ALL veggies make me worse even saurkraut so I avoid them but

continue to make fermented ones to but up for later.

>

> I am taking the supplements as best as I remember. I have had

nausea lately.

==>Hi Kara. Your nausea can be caused by retracing previous episodes

of nausea or stomach flu or infections per Hering's Law of Cures. OR

you could be trying to do too much too soon with coconut oil, garlic,

clove, probiotics, etc. Let the nutrients do their job for you,

rather than trying to push it will taking too many antifungals, and

also probiotics will cause more die-off symptoms like nausea.

>I do the vco, Garlic in the olives and some clove in my tea

> as antifungals. I will also be starting back on nystatin monday

> (can't take much else because I am still breastfeeding). I have

> started also taking some piobiotics in the middle of the night when

I wake to use the bathroom. That has help my stools but not solved

the underlying problem of the hemmoriods.

==>If you are not able to intake enough fats, per the ratios, you can

become constipated, so re-check your ratios of protein to fat to

carbs. Are you taking potassium? That might be important if you are

not eating veggies which may cause problems with water balancing.

>

> Help why is this weight coming back and can I stop it before I end

up back where I was?

==>Weight fluctuations can occur until your body normalizes again,

which may be not happen until after you've cured your candida. So do

not be concerned about weight. It can go up and down. Your body

knows what it is doing with the nutrients so concentrate on them, and

your body will do its job.

Luv, Bee

[Guest guest]

> >

> > I am starting to worry. I had gotten down to 151 in the first

> month

> > or two of your plan(even worried the weight loss would not

stop).

> > But now it seems to be creeping back on. I am now 164 . My

> > highest was 265. So I get very nervous that it wil ALL come back.

> >

> > I do not know if this means my body is toxic again and packing on

> the

> > fat as protection. The only non-organic non free range thing I

eat

> > is pork rinds and I have cut those back(I found pastured pork

> > cracklins:) I do think a lb or two is from constipation but the

> rest

> > I am not sure.

> >

> > Here is a sample of the things I eat:

> > spiced pate ( homemade)

> > fake cream

> > 4-5 eggs for breakfast swimming in vco

> > egg milk

> > safe lunch meat and hot dogs

> > garlic stuff olives

> > homecooked pork, beef, lamb etc (all of good quality)

> > ALL veggies make me worse even saurkraut so I avoid them but

> continue to make fermented ones to but up for later.

> >

> > I am taking the supplements as best as I remember. I have had

> nausea lately.

>

> ==>Hi Kara. Your nausea can be caused by retracing previous

episodes

> of nausea or stomach flu or infections per Hering's Law of Cures.

OR

> you could be trying to do too much too soon with coconut oil,

garlic,

> clove, probiotics, etc.

**I have added everything in very slowly but did not realize the

probiotics would cause die off which would explain being stiff in the

morning after I took some at night.

Let the nutrients do their job for you,

> rather than trying to push it will taking too many antifungals, and

> also probiotics will cause more die-off symptoms like nausea.

>

> >I do the vco, Garlic in the olives and some clove in my tea

> > as antifungals. I will also be starting back on nystatin monday

> > (can't take much else because I am still breastfeeding). I have

> > started also taking some piobiotics in the middle of the night

when

> I wake to use the bathroom. That has help my stools but not solved

> the underlying problem of the hemmoriods.

>

> ==>If you are not able to intake enough fats, per the ratios, you

can

> become constipated, so re-check your ratios of protein to fat to

> carbs. Are you taking potassium?

***NO I am not on potassium. What type of dosing should I be

following.

That might be important if you are

> not eating veggies which may cause problems with water balancing.

***I have been drinking lots of electrolyte drink.

> >

> > Help why is this weight coming back and can I stop it before I

end

> up back where I was?

>

> ==>Weight fluctuations can occur until your body normalizes again,

> which may be not happen until after you've cured your candida. So

do

> not be concerned about weight. It can go up and down. Your body

> knows what it is doing with the nutrients so concentrate on them,

and

> your body will do its job.

***Well I am glad I kept my clothes lol

>

> Luv, Bee

>

***Thanks Bee!

[Guest guest]

Tara, on an all meat and fat diet you can take 3,000 mg of potassium

citrate split into doses throughout the day, but also have minimal

sea salt, 1/2 tsp. or less, or cut it out completely.

But then you will need to get minerals from another source: take

ConcenTrace Ionic Liquid Minerals 10-15 drops in water twice a day.

When you go on an all meat and fat diet it can change a number of

things. I think it is not a good idea, although it can be done. It

is much cheaper to get glucose from vegetables rather than from meats

and fats.

Until you are more tolerant of veggies, start with these:

Best food choices (lowest carb count = approximately 3% carbs)

asparagus, beet greens, broccoli, cabbage, cauliflower, celery,

chard, cucumber, endive, lettuce, mustard greens, radish, spinach,

tomato, watercress

All greens are very low in carbs.

Bee

[Guest guest]

Hi, I am confused. I was under the impression that we

can live without veg. How do Eskimo's get everything

the need without them. I also am not tolerating veg

right now (they come out undigested). This all just

seems very complicated to me. I do understand that

humans have made things very complicated by making our

food and environment toxic, but it seems that eating

high quality fat and protein and taking the already

suggested supplements would be suffice. Life is not

supposed to be so complicated! OK, vent over......

Thanks, in NC

--- Bee <beeisbuzzing2003@...> wrote:

> Tara, on an all meat and fat diet you can take 3,000

> mg of potassium

> citrate split into doses throughout the day, but

> also have minimal

> sea salt, 1/2 tsp. or less, or cut it out

> completely.

>

> But then you will need to get minerals from another

> source: take

> ConcenTrace Ionic Liquid Minerals 10-15 drops in

> water twice a day.

>

> When you go on an all meat and fat diet it can

> change a number of

> things. I think it is not a good idea, although it

> can be done. It

> is much cheaper to get glucose from vegetables

> rather than from meats

> and fats.

>

> Until you are more tolerant of veggies, start with

> these:

>

> Best food choices (lowest carb count = approximately

> 3% carbs)

>

> asparagus, beet greens, broccoli, cabbage,

> cauliflower, celery,

> chard, cucumber, endive, lettuce, mustard greens,

> radish, spinach,

> tomato, watercress

>

> All greens are very low in carbs.

>

> Bee

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi, I am confused. I was under the impression that we

> can live without veg. How do Eskimo's get everything

> the need without them. I also am not tolerating veg

> right now (they come out undigested). This all just

> seems very complicated to me. I do understand that

> humans have made things very complicated by making our

> food and environment toxic, but it seems that eating

> high quality fat and protein and taking the already

> suggested supplements would be suffice. Life is not

> supposed to be so complicated! OK, vent over......

==>Hi . Yes you can live without vegetables, but in areas where

they are plentiful it doesn't make sense to spend more money on meats

because veggies are cheaper. Eskimos only had certain foods

available in their area.

Eskimos also didn't consume salt other than what was contained in

their foods, which obviously was enough. And they obviously got

plenty of minerals too, including potassium. My recommendations for

an all meat and fat diet are because I've recommended sea salt and

good water for obtaining enough minerals on my usual program and

because my usual program has plenty of potassium from veggies to

balance out with the salt.

I also don't believe the meats and fats we have available to us

contain the same high amount or quality of nutrients found in foods

the Eskimos had - Dr. Price studied them in the 1930s. Minerals are

the building blocks of the body so I want to ensure everyone is

getting enough of them, but not too much of any one which would throw

off balances and cause problems.

If you don't have veggies and yet also have sea salt, the salt will

create imbalances, particularly because of lower potassium.

It is much better for everyone to stick to my program and not go on

an all meat and good fats diet. It certainly would be easier for me

in answering questions like yours. LOL!

Luv, Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> Tara, on an all meat and fat diet you can take 3,000 mg of

potassium

> citrate split into doses throughout the day, but also have minimal

> sea salt, 1/2 tsp. or less, or cut it out completely.

*** Is 3000mg right or a typo? The biggest form of citrate is 99 mg

and it turns out it is in my magnesium at that rate

>

> But then you will need to get minerals from another source: take

> ConcenTrace Ionic Liquid Minerals 10-15 drops in water twice a day.

*** I like my lemonade

>

> When you go on an all meat and fat diet it can change a number of

> things. I think it is not a good idea, although it can be done.

It

> is much cheaper to get glucose from vegetables rather than from

meats

> and fats.

>

> Until you are more tolerant of veggies, start with these:

>

> Best food choices (lowest carb count = approximately 3% carbs)

>

> asparagus, beet greens, broccoli, cabbage, cauliflower, celery,

> chard, cucumber, endive, lettuce, mustard greens, radish, spinach,

> tomato, watercress

** I will try these and try pureeing some others too.

How do I know if my balance with potassium is off? Are there

symptoms I should be watching for? How much potassium would I get

from the above veggies and what quanity would they need to be eaten?

Or would i need lees from whole food than a supplement?

***Sorry for all the questions. just trying to get this straight in

my head. Thanks Kara

>

> All greens are very low in carbs.

>

> Bee

>

[Guest guest]

> >

> > Tara, on an all meat and fat diet you can take 3,000 mg of

> potassium

> > citrate split into doses throughout the day, but also have

minimal

> > sea salt, 1/2 tsp. or less, or cut it out completely.

>

> *** Is 3000mg right or a typo? The biggest form of citrate is 99

mg and it turns out it is in my magnesium at that rate

==>No, that is not a typo. Potassium and salt (sodium+chloride) need

to be almost equally balanced, and they are both macrominerals,

meaning they are required in larger amounts. There are only 7

macrominerals, including calcium, magnesium, sulphur, phosphorus,

potassium, sodium and chloride; all of the other minerals are only

required in " trace " amounts.

==>The reason potassium supplements are so low is because potassium

is prevalent in foods, particularly veggies. I think it is better to

eat veggies rather than mess around with taking magnesium, and the

other changes necessary.

> >

> > But then you will need to get minerals from another source: take

> > ConcenTrace Ionic Liquid Minerals 10-15 drops in water twice a

day.

>

> *** I like my lemonade

> >

> > When you go on an all meat and fat diet it can change a number of

> > things. I think it is not a good idea, although it can be done.

> It

> > is much cheaper to get glucose from vegetables rather than from

> meats

> > and fats.

> >

> > Until you are more tolerant of veggies, start with these:

> >

> > Best food choices (lowest carb count = approximately 3% carbs)

> >

> > asparagus, beet greens, broccoli, cabbage, cauliflower, celery,

> > chard, cucumber, endive, lettuce, mustard greens, radish,

spinach,

> > tomato, watercress

>

> ** I will try these and try pureeing some others too.

> How do I know if my balance with potassium is off? Are there

> symptoms I should be watching for? How much potassium would I get

> from the above veggies and what quanity would they need to be eaten?

==>If you eat the correct ratio of carbs you will get plenty of

potassium.

> Or would i need lees from whole food than a supplement?

==>It is best not to take a supplement, and to get all potassium from

foods.

Bee

[Guest guest]

Bee -- I think this is excellent advice! Last Thursday and Friday it was around

100

degrees in my neighborhood in SF and I work out my studio at home with no air

conditioning. For some reason, my legs, ankles, feet and fingers were swelling

up in the

heat!

I was drinking the electrolyte drink and for the most part, it was too hot to

eat much. I

had a few slices of meat and a few eggs each day, but not much else. Well, by

late Friday

afternoon, I could hardly bend my knees, and my husband was telling me I had

" Fred

Flinstone " feet. Nothing like that has ever happened to me.

Then I read on another NT list about being a " salt loser, " and I did a little

more research

and realized I must be lacking potassium!!! So my husband and I walked down to

the

Tienda on our block and ordered giant veggie chicken salads, which they fill

with chopped

vegetables, including radishes, greens and carrots. I also ate about six small

bananas (!),

and took two magnesium/potassium blend supplements. Within hours the swelling

was

gone.

Amazing!!

So you are very right about the salt and the protein/fat ratios.

Thanks for all you do here, Bee!

XO,

>

> If you don't have veggies and yet also have sea salt, the salt will

> create imbalances, particularly because of lower potassium.

>

> It is much better for everyone to stick to my program and not go on

> an all meat and good fats diet. It certainly would be easier for me

> in answering questions like yours. LOL!

>

> Luv, Bee

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Bee

>

> Just wondering if anyone had gained any weight while on this

program? It seems I'm stating to gain some weight since starting, could

that be from all the coconut oil and all the eggs?

==>Maddy, some people gain while other lose. Weight will fluctuate.

If you've had a tendency to be overweight in the past your body will

also retrace those episodes during natural healing. Conversely, if

you've had a tendency to be underweight your body will also retrace

those occurrences. In the end your weight will stabilize to what it

should be for you.

Coconut oil and good fats in eggs, etc. make a person lose weight, not

gain weight. In fact Sally Fallon, Founder of the Weston A. Price

Foundation and Enig, world reknown expert on fats, wrote a book

called " Eat Fat, Lose Fat " . Carbs and toxins put on weight, not " good "

fats. The body puts on fat to store toxins aways from vital inner

organs.

Bee

[Guest guest]

Thank you Bee but I SURE HOPE that won't be the case. I was always a heavier

person (my heaviest weight was 193 lbs in 2000) then I lost a lot of weight as I

had a slight heart attack with elevated choleterol and BL levels and thyroid

peoblems. The cardiologist told me if I wanted to stay alive I needed to get

active and moving. So I started walking and my weight down significantly. I was

for the past 6 months or so weighing 118 in the morning and now I'm up to 122 in

only a few days and I'm not eating anymore. I wonder if it could be fluid?

Could it be from the sea salt as I eat salt often during the day at work?

I sure hope I don't keep putting on weight at that rate as I would have to

consider getting off the program; I don't want to be overweight again.

thanks Bee

God Bless

Bee <beeisbuzzing2003@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Bee

>

> Just wondering if anyone had gained any weight while on this

program? It seems I'm stating to gain some weight since starting, could

that be from all the coconut oil and all the eggs?

==>Maddy, some people gain while other lose. Weight will fluctuate.

If you've had a tendency to be overweight in the past your body will

also retrace those episodes during natural healing. Conversely, if

you've had a tendency to be underweight your body will also retrace

those occurrences. In the end your weight will stabilize to what it

should be for you.

Coconut oil and good fats in eggs, etc. make a person lose weight, not

gain weight. In fact Sally Fallon, Founder of the Weston A. Price

Foundation and Enig, world reknown expert on fats, wrote a book

called " Eat Fat, Lose Fat " . Carbs and toxins put on weight, not " good "

fats. The body puts on fat to store toxins aways from vital inner

organs.

Bee

[Guest guest]

Relax. You'll be just fine. If you're gaining a few pounds, perhaps

you needed to. Maybe you were a little too zealous about weight loss

or something?

I'm a soon-to-be 41 year old male, and I was 153 pounds when I

started this diet in December. (Look at my bloated belly in the

picture files). I'm eating tons of coconut oil, butter, fat, meat,

olive oil, etc... and this morning I weighed 129 pounds when I woke

up. My wife has been on the diet the exact same amount of time, yet

she still weighs exactly 100 pounds, just like she did on Day One!

Go figure...

I'm going to post another picture of myself on here exactly one year

after the first bloated picture was taken. (In August). Now my

belly is absolutely flat ALL DAY and ALL EVENING, and I can't even

make it stick out if I try. In the past, even if it was flat in the

morning, by evening after supper it was huge. And if I pushed out on

it, it would grow even bigger than what you see in the picture.

I'm going to have to buy more pairs of shorts with a 29 inch waist,

because the 30's are falling off now. I'm going to need to buy a

smaller belt too. After the diet, I'll put some weight back on, but

as you'll see in the picture I'll post next month, I'm not " too

skinny " as I have great muscle tone still. My ideal weight I learned

from a health fair in college is 133.

If you're going to be on this diet, you're going to have to learn a

little patience as your body adjusts. And also avoid the temptation

to do " extras " that are not part of the plan that can lead to weight

gain and myriads of other problems. I assure you that if you follow

Bee's diet and supplements 100% that there is absolutely NO CHANCE

that you will gain a significant amount of weight in the long term...

or the short term either.

Doug

I was for the past 6 months or so weighing 118 in the morning and now

I'm up to 122 in only a few days and I'm not eating anymore. I wonder

if it could be fluid? Could it be from the sea salt as I eat salt

often during the day at work?

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> I sure hope I don't keep putting on weight at that rate as I

would have to consider getting off the program; I don't want to be

overweight again.

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> thanks Bee

> God Bless

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> Thank you Bee but I SURE HOPE that won't be the case. I was always

a heavier person (my heaviest weight was 193 lbs in 2000) then I lost

a lot of weight as I had a slight heart attack with elevated

choleterol and BL levels and thyroid peoblems. The cardiologist told

me if I wanted to stay alive I needed to get active and moving. So I

started walking and my weight down significantly. I was for the past

6 months or so weighing 118 in the morning and now I'm up to 122 in

only a few days and I'm not eating anymore. I wonder if it could be

fluid? Could it be from the sea salt as I eat salt often during the

day at work?

==>It could be fluids which will also change as you progress. If you

are having ocean sea salt it wouldn't cause any fluid problems; it

helps them! See article about Sea Salt on my website.

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> I sure hope I don't keep putting on weight at that rate as I

would have to consider getting off the program; I don't want to be

overweight again.

==>When you are unhealthy you have much bigger issues than weight,

and weight will normalize. Would you prefer to be slim and unhealthy?

Bee

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In a message dated 10/9/2008 6:25:59 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ladybugsandbees@... writes:

>>I am having issues with weight now that I increased to 125 mgs from 100 mg.

Me, too, Steph..that's what kept me from actually upping my iodine in the first place and you, thankfully, convinced me it was a symptom of bromidism. Do you take Armour? Can you up your dose a bit until you adjust to 125mg? I find that when I stop detoxing at a certain dose the weight issue goes away. Do you mean by the fat issue that the body tries to cling to fat to ease the detox? I didn't understand that part of your post. I just assumed the weight issue had to do with iodine's initial action on the thyroid.

Thanks.

BarbF

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[Guest guest]

I am having issues with weight now that I increased to 125 mgs from 100 mg.

The idea is that your body uses fat to buffer the toxins that your liver and

kidney cannot pull out (ie they are overloaded). I have started taking my

Metagenics Ultra Clear Plus (yesterday) again so we will see if that helps.

I am also supposed to do salt loads, alkaline diet, dead sea salt baths and

coffee enemas.

Hope that helps.

Weight Gain

> Hi.........

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> Can Iodine cause you to gain weight?

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> Thanks

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[Guest guest]

Hello. I was about to write the same thing. I am a lurker, have

been reading this forum for a few months and, with a past of " normal "

SAD diet, I think my thyroid is not up to snuff. I had a test run

years ago since I couldn't seem to lose weight through regular

dieting that placed me at the very low end of " normal " but since it

was " normal " my doc didn't do anything about it. Anyway, I have in

the last year dropped 70 pounds to a very healthy 112-115# on a 5'1 "

frame, 44-year-old female. I eat a med/high fat/high protein/low

carb diet staying around my suggested calorie range, eat no processed

foods, no prescriptions, no sugar/wheat/gluten/starch/bread, etc.

I've been maintaining for several months now. A couple of weeks ago

I started Iodoral at 25mg a day and have gained. I got up to 121#

last week and about to died! Nothing else has changed but adding the

Iodoral. I drink up to a gallon of water and green tea a day

(minimum half a gallon) so I don't think it's water retention. It's

not menstruation-related either. I feel very " bloaty " and the weight

is all in my stomach area (i.e., all my waistbands are very tight on

me). I read what bromide detox was and maybe that is what it is, but

I don't really have the symptoms. I am back down to 117.6 but that

is still about 5# over where I should be. Should I quit the Iodoral,

change the dose, or just give it more time? I am miserable-fat

feeling and don't know what to do. Thank you.

Trisha in Nashville