kidney pain

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on 10/3/00 7:55 AM, Patty at faussettdp@... wrote:

Does anyone on this list have any idea what can cause kidney pain besides oxalic acid crystals? Husband is still suffering from pain in left kidney area after the black walnut tincture he used.

Any idea on tests he should consider if he decides to go to a doctor? We generally stay away from anyone who is not a naturopathic doctor, but may consider just having some testing done.

Thanks,

Patty

I am facing the same circumstance.

If you go ama...

first step ultra sound

next step IVP - this will take picture of every milimeter of the kidney, ureter, urethra, bladder

michael

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Hi,

If I were you I would do a parasite cleanse ASAP and take magnesium (which

will prevent stone formation).

Best,

Kim

> Hello all,

> I have been having a lot of bladder or kidney pain lately. I went to

the

> doc last week and he found blood in the urine. He put me on an antibiotic

> called Cipro. It has not yet to really help, I am still hurting. The doc

just

> returned our phone call and he told me that he wants me on another

antibiotic

> and that he wants to make me an appt. to have a sonogram done, I think

that

> is what it is called. He did not say that until I told him about a year

ago

> an er doctor told me that one of my uretas was dilated and there may be

> something obstructing it, I hope it is not a stone. Does anyone have any

> suggestions more on the natural side. I will take the antibiotics to try

and

> clear the infection and I hope to get back on cranberry capsules and

taking

> probiotics,thanks...LaTonya

>

>

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In a message dated 10/30/2000 12:46:38 PM Central Standard Time,

DWigg54545@... writes:

<< Does anyone have any

suggestions more on the natural side. I will take the antibiotics to try and

clear the infection and I hope to get back on cranberry capsules and taking

probiotics,thanks...LaTonya >>

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I started on Dr Shulze bladder and kidney cleanse today. It is

supposed to get rid of stones. I really didn't so well on it. I drank

all day but still did not get it all in. Will try to do better tomorrow.

I think there is an herb called stone something or other (someone help me out

here) that is supposed to get ris of them like now.

ej

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Thanks for the information...LaTonya

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Subject: Re: Kidney Pain

<< Does anyone have any

suggestions more on the natural side. I will take the antibiotics to

try and

clear the infection and I hope to get back on cranberry capsules and

taking

probiotics,thanks...LaTonya >>

LaTonya: Greetings. I have included information about Dr. Rich

's formula for Kidney Life. It is available in capsule and bulk

tea form. I have had good results with this along with many of my

cleansers. If you have an infection going on, I would also suggest Bee

Propolis, Astragulas and Echinecia (to fight off the infection), and

Golden Seal (soothes irritated tissues). Once the infection is under

control, then I would suggest a good herbal kidney formula. Blessings,

Dreher http://www.TransformYourHealth.com/

Kidney Life

Description: Kidney Life is an exceptional herbal formula that assists

in the natural detoxification and

rebuilding of the kidneys, bladder and urinary tract systems. Kidney

Life herbs are known to remove

mucus, toxins, and other forms of congestion from the kidney and

urinary tract. The herbs in this

formula are traditionally known to be highly effective in strengthening

and toning the entire urinary

pathway. They help increase the flow of urine and may reduce

inflammation. Kidneys are a vital

eliminative organ and anything we can do to improve their performance

will benefit our health. Kidney

Life is best used alone after a Cleanse, preferably not with Liver Life

or other formulas. It is usually

taken for 2-3 months for best results.

Ingredients: Capsules: Burdock Root, Ginger Root, Gravel Root,

Hydrangea Root, Juniper Berries,

Lobelia Leaf, Marshmallow Root, Parsley Root, Uva Ursi Leaf. Other

ingredients: Magnesium Stearate

(vegetarian). Bulk Powder: Burdock Root, Ginger Root, Gravel Root,

Hydrangea Root, Juniper Berries,

Lobelia Leaf, Marshmallow Root, Parsley Root, Uva Ursi Leaf.

Sizes Available: 120 Capsules, 6 ounce Bulk Powder

Number of Servings: 120 Capsules: approximately 48, 6 Ounce Bulk

Powder: approximately 42

Serving Size: Capsules: 2 or 3 capsules, Bulk Powder: 1 teaspoon

Form: Capsules and Bulk Powder

Active Ingredients per Capsule: 450 mg

Suggested Intake: Capsules: Take 2 to 3 capsules 3 times daily, between

meals, for 1 week. For

greater results, open 2 to 3 capsules and add ingredients to a cup of

hot water. Let steep for 5 minutes

and drink. Bulk Powder: Add one teaspoon of powder to one cup boiling

water. Let steep until cool.

Drink 1 to 3 cups per day. May also be used with an enema. Add 1 level

teaspoon to 20 ounces of

water. Bring to a boil, remove from heat and steep herbs for 15 minutes

with lid on. Strain and add more

water to the remaining tea to equal at least 4 to 6 quarts.

Special Comments: Pregnant or lactating women should consult a health

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LaTonya,

Marshmallow root herb is very good for Kidney pain and cleanse. DO NOT take

GoldenSeal if you have allergies to ragweed. It will make it worse. I have

Kidney problems and am very cautions as to what I take. I'm in the midst of

having alot of Kidney problems and I must say any Kidney pain MUST be taken

serious. If the pain persistant get an ultra sound done ASAP. Are you

prone to getting stones? If so, find out the " whys " and causes of the

stones recurring. I won't go into detail of my kidney problems on this list

but if you want to know more feel free to email me.

Lilly

ljclark@...

Re: RE: Kidney Pain

Thanks for the information...LaTonya

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I've had what feels like kidney pain several times (in lower back, like a deep pain). Seems like it'll hurt for a couple of days, then go away. I've never gone to the doctor to have it checked out, probably should have, but I'm so sick of going to the doctor that I have to be really, really, really bad off to go!

Do you drink a lot of water? If not, that might help.

From: " joanneinpain " <joanneinpain@...>

Reply-

Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2004 23:46:48 -0000

Subject: kidney pain

I haven't been on line for a while to get caught up because I have

been sooo tired. The chronic fatigue seems to come in waves with me.

I was wondering if anyone has had a kidey infection from detoxing or

whatever? I woke up at 5:30 AM in horrible back pain and it is not

letting up. I have also been waking up in sweats again. If only we

could take a magnifying glass and look inside our bodies to see what

the heck is going on. I hate to go on antibiotics and yet this could

be serious. I am going to wait it out till tomorrow but I was just

wondering if anyone else has had this? Thanks, Joanne

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Hi, I've been on the H. Pylori regime of antibotics now 3 different times in the last 2 years and in between that I've had to take antibotics for sinus infections. Would someone please tell me what to take to replenish my good bacteria, since the so called smart doctors don't and don't seem to care. Thanks, NeenieColleen <cfortner@...> wrote:

I've had what feels like kidney pain several times (in lower back, like a deep pain). Seems like it'll hurt for a couple of days, then go away. I've never gone to the doctor to have it checked out, probably should have, but I'm so sick of going to the doctor that I have to be really, really, really bad off to go!Do you drink a lot of water? If not, that might help.

From: "joanneinpain" <joanneinpain@...>Reply- Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2004 23:46:48 -0000 Subject: kidney pain

I haven't been on line for a while to get caught up because I have been sooo tired. The chronic fatigue seems to come in waves with me. I was wondering if anyone has had a kidey infection from detoxing or whatever? I woke up at 5:30 AM in horrible back pain and it is not letting up. I have also been waking up in sweats again. If only we could take a magnifying glass and look inside our bodies to see what the heck is going on. I hate to go on antibiotics and yet this could be serious. I am going to wait it out till tomorrow but I was just wondering if anyone else has had this? Thanks, Joanne

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I was explanted in July and have horrible kidney pain. What is the cause?

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i actually wake up with kidney pain almost every morning!!! yet the tests show nothing, i have had every test under the sun....i was explanted that june...and still pain!DIANA D

>From: "joanneinpain" <joanneinpain@...> >Reply- > >Subject: kidney pain >Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2004 23:46:48 -0000 > >I haven't been on line for a while to get caught up because I have >been sooo tired. The chronic fatigue seems to come in waves with me. >I was wondering if anyone has had a kidey infection from detoxing or >whatever? I woke up at 5:30 AM in horrible back pain and it is not >letting up. I have also been waking up in sweats again. If only we >could take a magnifying glass and look inside our bodies to see what >the heck is going on. I hate to go on antibiotics and yet this could >be serious. I am going to wait it out till tomorrow but I was just >wondering if anyone else has had this? Thanks, Joanne > Help protect your entire PC with Virus Guard from MSN Premium Get Two Months FREE*

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In a message dated 4/9/2004 1:40:36 AM Eastern Standard Time, faussettdp@... writes:

There is some kidney involvement in certain autoimmuneconditions, like lupus. I had a period where I hadalot of bladder irritation, and burning and thefeeling that an infection was brewing. I have not hadthat for about 3 years now...I did have an elevated

Yea Patty i have lupus and i have kidney disease too.....this whole thing is crazy they are now doing another 24 hour urine, which in itself is so inconvenient i have to take this big jug if i go out and then it has to be refrigerated..lol looks cute..i am having a lot of severe pain in my back where my kidneys are and my front as well, if i have to go to the bathroom, it actually hurts my back and abdomen really bad until i pass the urine...who knows what is going on i can't keep up with it anymore....now the last three days i have been going to bed at 5:30 6 in the am and waking up at 9 not sleeping good at all, finally last night i went to bed before hubby got home at 11 and didn't wake up till 12:30 this afternoon....and i still feel tired, but finally i slept....yessssssssss..well hope all goes well for you all, i keep all of us in my thoughts and prayers always....BJ

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My Dear :

I had the same pain and my doctor sent me to a kidney specialist who put me on antibiotics for one year. I was doing great as far as kidney infections, but now I have a mild kidney disease with a cystic lesion on my left kidney. My doctors are not worried about this, they claim that it is like having a sore throat!! Please see your doctor as soon as possible. When were you explanted?

I had very bad GI attacks too, but finally they found that I had H-pylori. I'm taking Losec for this and antibiotics when this disease flares.

Happy New Year:

Sending much love...Lea

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kidney pain

hello everyone, happy new year, over the past year, when i had my implants and after my explant, i wake up some mornings with excusiating pain where my kidneys are!!! my skin itches and i get the chills at night, this seams to be after eating a big meal like christmas dinner or a party where i eat later in the evening (i usually eat very healthy) but on occasion, i pay for it with days of pain! has anyone expirienced this??? i did have blood work done, nothing came up, an ultrasound... nothing again, but i know my body it telling me SOMETHING with the pain, it feels like my kidneys are swollen...please help...diana

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hello. I wish I could be of help to you. The site has been

quiet I am certain people are busy with New Years Eve. I am going to

be alone and in pain all night tonight.I wish I had someone to talk

to. I wish that I could be of some help to you. I have pain all the

time also. But not in that area. In fact that is the only thing that

doesn't hurt me right now.

can I ask you do you have silicone gel implants? I have had

them much to long. I know it was denial on my part to keep them in so

long and fear I have done irreparable damage to my body.

I am only in my 40's but I might as well be 100 for how badly I feel.

I apologize to you for not being able to help you.

I will wish you a better new year.

Annie

In , " diana dickieson "

<scissorstar@h...> wrote:

>

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Hi ,

Have you been doing any of the detox therapies? . . .

There are a bunch here. . .

/files/Healing%20Therapies/

I have a hunch that, after you've done some detoxing,

the kidney problems will go away.

My analogy of our situation: . . . When we are born,

we are given the equivalent of an empty glass. . . As

we go through life, we begin to fill the glass with

the toxins we encounter. . . At some point we come to

the point where our glass is full, and it runs over .

.. .then we have symptoms, or get sick. The point of

detoxing is to lower the level of toxins in the glass

to the point they no longer cause problems. We'll

never empty the glass, given the toxic world we live

in. But we can make it much better by mindfully

working on detoxing.

I suspect that something in the large meals, or in the

holiday treats contain that little something extra

that your body is reacting to . . . Making the

connection is a big step. Now it's time to figure out

what you can do to manage it!

I wish it was easier!

Hugs and prayers,

Rogene

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Hi ,

Happy New Year to you too! I am so happy to hear from you when you

write, as you've been doing so great, but I am sorry to hear you are

having these symptoms...I agree with you that your body is telling

you something isn't right.

I had kidney pain several years ago that developed quickly into

kidney infection which sent me to the emergency room....they called

it " pyelonephritis " , and I saw the lab report that said it was E.

coli that was the bacterial culprit. This was in 2000, when I was

still suffering from the worst of my implant related symptoms. I

was a bit nervous about the development of these bladder related

problems, as they are consistent with lupus. I had bladder pain

(burning) and frequent urination problems as well as something

approaching incontinence....it didn't happen often, but sometimes I

almost didn't make it to the toilet before I wet my pants. That was

distressing to say the least.

Don't worry about the lupus part...I never did develop it, but I

remember how scared I was while I was trying to get better. You

just never know what might be around the next corner when you are

not healthy.

What I wanted to share most of all is that I took it upon myself to

deal with the bladder and kidney issues promptly, and I believe that

made a big difference because in the ensuing months when I developed

those pains again, I was able to avoid having to see a doctor. I

took no chances when those pains started showing again. I started

eating alot of raw garlic (one of the most potent anti-bacterial

herbs around.) I used other herbs like olive leaf extract,

grapefruit seed extract, oil of oregano, and drank lots of water. I

got unsweetened cranberry juice and drank alot of that. (there is

something in the cranberry juice that prevents bacteria from

clinging to the bladder walls, I believe...somebody correct me if I

am wrong). Several times I armed myself with a good book, a gallon

of water and just sat on the toilet and drank and pee'd, drank and

pee'd for hours until I felt I had cleared everything out

sufficiently.

I hope my experience will give you a few ideas...I have not suffered

from a single kidney pain again since I've done those things.

I wish you well, and pray that you find the healing that you are so

deserving of.

God bless!

Hugs,

Patty

I took it upon myself

hello everyone, happy new year, over the past year, when i had my

implants and after my explant, i wake up some mornings with

excusiating pain where my kidneys are!!! my skin itches and i get

the chills at night, this seams to be after eating a big meal like

christmas dinner or a party where i eat later in the evening (i

usually eat very healthy) but on occasion, i pay for it with days of

pain! has anyone expirienced this??? i did have blood work done,

nothing came up, an ultrasound... nothing again, but i know my body

it telling me SOMETHING with the pain, it feels like my kidneys are

swollen...please help...diana

>

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Hi there,

this is such a great list with so much information, so I thought I

throw out a question.

I seem to have lots of pain in my kidneys lately. Especially at

nights and I wake up from it several times. During the day it seems to

go away, except today for half of the day I was still in pain.

Any suggestion what I can do?

thanks so much christa

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The ingredients for all the tinctures & tea is in the files.

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From: hovipups <hovawart_dogs@...>

Sent: Oct 10, 2005 12:57 AM

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Subject: kidney pain

Hi there,

this is such a great list with so much information, so I thought I

throw out a question.

I seem to have lots of pain in my kidneys lately. Especially at

nights and I wake up from it several times. During the day it seems to

go away, except today for half of the day I was still in pain.

Any suggestion what I can do?

thanks so much christa

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Christa,

Can't you drink water during the day? A steady intake of water

thruout the day is best...drinking steadily instead of glassfuls at a

time. What are the " fluids " to which you are referring? Some

" fluids " are actually dehydrating....dehydration can cause kidney

pain. Some fluids also leach calcium....you may be forming crystals

which cause pain. Is your pain limited to your kidneys? You have

looked at a human anatomy chart for the exact location of your

kidneys, right? ...jes' makin' sure... ;-) Kit

>

> Hi BeaN,

>

> >

> > if there is no water in your tank you can't flush your toilet...

> >

> >

> I think I do a drink a lot of fluids. I already have to go to pee

> every half hour and thats quite complicated if you're on the road all

> day. It actually seems worse when I do drink more.

>

> I can obviously drink more in the evening when I'm home, so at night

> the pain is much worse until I get up. MOving around I feel usually

> okay.

>

> christa

>

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Hi Kit,

thank you for your reply. I might drink about half a gallon during

the day and it probably should be more since I'm also jogging. But I'm

outdoors or in the car most of the day so going to pee every half hour

is just about enought:-)

the other fluids are green teas or herb teas. I don't really like

cold water, especially if its cold in the house. So I make lots of teas.

And I'm pretty sure the pain is the kidneys. I checked on an anatomy

chart:-) I had this for a long time off and on, just lately it seemed

to get worse a lot.

thanks again christa

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Hi Suzi,

thanks for the suggestion. I will definitely look into this. Its no

fun to be in this pain most of the time. I have to check what I need

for a juice fast etc. No way I can buy a juicer, so I don't know if I

even would get the juices I need.

Since I am not eating raw the kidney cleanse would take some more

time, especially preparing the stuff to take. I didn't even have time

to look at it in detail.

Is there a commercial kidney cleanse around I could do? about two

month ago I did a 5 day fast and whole system cleanse. Didn't feel

any different from it though:-)

Again, thank you, I also will get cucumbers and the things which

are good for the kidneys.

christa

> Cucumber & parsley, dandelion, spinach are good for the kidneys...

I would suggest at least doing a 3-4 day juice fast..

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Christa,

The more I hear the more I'm thinking "Could you have stones?"

Have you tried a juice fast? Or better yet (we're back to this) a kidney cleanse... if it is stones, you want to get rid of them before you have to do something drastic..

PS What are you eating or drinking when it gets worse??

Suzihovipups <hovawart_dogs@...> wrote:

Hi Kit,thank you for your reply. I might drink about half a gallon during the day and it probably should be more since I'm also jogging. But I'm outdoors or in the car most of the day so going to pee every half hour is just about enought:-)the other fluids are green teas or herb teas. I don't really like cold water, especially if its cold in the house. So I make lots of teas.And I'm pretty sure the pain is the kidneys. I checked on an anatomy chart:-) I had this for a long time off and on, just lately it seemed to get worse a lot.

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Hi Suzi,

no I haven't tried a juice fast. I have a test coming up tomorrow

night and once it is over I will look into it. I also will look into

the kidney cleanse and see if its possible for me to do, especially get

the ingredients etc. I don't have much time to run around to look for

herbs and stuff.

Thats why I was wondering if there is a commercial kidney cleanse

available which is good.

(and I don't have a juicer, so I'll see what I can do about a juice

fast)

In regards of eating I do my best, having gone through different

eating disorders its kind of a difficult chore for me.

thanks again christa

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Hmmm, Christa, well it looks like you're doing everything correctly.

I understand not wanting to stop every half hour. If your used to

drinking like you described, stopping to pee that often would indicate

a weakness in your Kidneys. Any ringing in your ears or weakness/pain

in your knees? Condition of your teeth..ie.cavities,etc.? premature

grey? possibly shortness of breath? Kit

>

> Hi Kit,

>

> thank you for your reply. I might drink about half a gallon during

> the day and it probably should be more since I'm also jogging. But I'm

> outdoors or in the car most of the day so going to pee every half hour

> is just about enought:-)

>

> the other fluids are green teas or herb teas. I don't really like

> cold water, especially if its cold in the house. So I make lots of teas.

>

> And I'm pretty sure the pain is the kidneys. I checked on an anatomy

> chart:-) I had this for a long time off and on, just lately it seemed

> to get worse a lot.

>

> thanks again christa

>

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The site of Dr. Schulze that was mentioned previously does sell product and it is good... check them out..hovipups <hovawart_dogs@...> wrote:

Hi Suzi,no I haven't tried a juice fast. I have a test coming up tomorrow night and once it is over I will look into it. I also will look into the kidney cleanse and see if its possible for me to do, especially get the ingredients etc. I don't have much time to run around to look for herbs and stuff.Thats why I was wondering if there is a commercial kidney cleanse available which is good.(and I don't have a juicer, so I'll see what I can do about a juice fast)In regards of eating I do my best, having gone through different eating disorders its kind of a difficult chore for me.

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