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When the water is running, it seems all other sounds are muted. Do others

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> I am not one to suggest this because I myself am terrible at it

> but try to hot down notes on what you hear or dont hear. Is the pain

> more like nerves twitching? That can be mapped out too (I need to

> have this done and may want to get an electrode or two turned off).

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Hi ,

This is a common complaint but can be resolved somewhat. Please

know that people with regular hearing have a problem with water

running. It's just hard to hear over it. I thought you had the BWP

and if so, turn on the sensitivity and lower the number on your

processor. Let me know if I or anyone else on this list can help

you do this.

If you are using the 3G (which I don't think you are doing) ask the

audiologist to give you a sensitivity map and when you are running

water, you can turn the sensitivity down as far as you need to to

silence the interruption.

BTW - There is no rule as to how many mappings you can have. If you

need one now - you can ask for it and you should get the appointment.

Let us know how you make out with all of this. We'll help you as

much as we can.

> When the water is running, it seems all other sounds are muted. Do

others

> have this experience?

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Velvet,

As the others said, you are in a weird time right now because you

still feel hungry and yet you think you should not be. I was banded

in May and had one fill in July and another in August. My August

fill did the trick and I have been losing slowly and steadily since

then. Before my August fill I was down only 20 pounds (in three

months, modest by many bandster standards), and that was including

the three weeks on liquids! Since that August fill I am down 15

more pounds.

After banding, once I could eat again, I tried very hard to limit

myself but it was difficult and I was losing very, very slowly. And

I was hungry!!! Once you have the right fill, you will not agonize

so much over your overeating because it will be darn near impossible

to do it! One thing I have learned in this process is time is your

friend, not your enemy. We all want results so quickly! Your body

and your brain need time to adjust to the band. You will find a

rhythm that works for you, a pattern to eating that is healthier.

For me, a good fill means I will not put that piece of cake in my

mouth because I know if I do I will not have room for anything

else. A good fill means I will choose one glass of wine and not two

because I want to eat my calories, not drink them. A good fill

means I turn away from chips and salsa at the restaurant because I

would like to be able to eat one third of that chicken enchilada and

even three or four chips will prevent me from be able to do that. In

my preband days, I would have eaten the whole enchilada (no pun

intended!) and refilled the chips bowl twice!

I am five months out and I am so grateful for the band. I have lost

35 pounds and I am so excited to know in another five months I will

be even better than I am right now. I still eat things I shouldn't,

I just don't do it very often because my fill won't allow it. That

has helped me learn I really don't want to eat that stiff all the

time. The band is helping me retrain my brain.

Time is your friend in this process. You will get a great fill soon

and you will start to find your path in this journey. You have

already lost more in your short time than I have in the last five

months! You are doing great and you need to remind yourself of that

every day.

mary

dr. ortiz

05/21/04 -35

>

> I'm at a total loss. I seem to have lost my momentum in doing

this

> weight loss programme. I have been eating non stop and I cannot

seen

> to get full.

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it's hard to get a map with them, their schedule is full. After I've completed

the intial mapping, I can go to the one provided at my college.

is this the same for others, for their audie's schedule to be full.

I want to say thank you to everyone who's replied. I will mention it to my audie

that one of the electrodes is hurting me.

it's only when people are talking, then one of the words they say makes me wince

and the pain seems to be lasting for like 10 min.

i'll try to remember the words they say.

thanks

Alice <justagram@...> wrote:

Hi ,

This is a common complaint but can be resolved somewhat. Please

know that people with regular hearing have a problem with water

running. It's just hard to hear over it. I thought you had the BWP

and if so, turn on the sensitivity and lower the number on your

processor. Let me know if I or anyone else on this list can help

you do this.

If you are using the 3G (which I don't think you are doing) ask the

audiologist to give you a sensitivity map and when you are running

water, you can turn the sensitivity down as far as you need to to

silence the interruption.

BTW - There is no rule as to how many mappings you can have. If you

need one now - you can ask for it and you should get the appointment.

Let us know how you make out with all of this. We'll help you as

much as we can.

> When the water is running, it seems all other sounds are muted. Do

others

> have this experience?

>

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Thanks everyone, you have given me the boost I needed. Yesterday was

a better day for me and I stuck to the puree/soft food 100%. Today

has been OK so far. I today received my new recipe book from Amazon

called " Eating Well After Weight Loss Surgery " by Patt Levine and

Michele Bontempo-Saray, which was recommended by another bandster

group. I have not had a chance to look at it yet, but I will do this

afternoon. The food looks delicious and they are low in fat and high

in protein.

Again thanks to everyone.

Jackie

13/9/04

299/263/???

London, U.K.

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> Velvet,

> As the others said, you are in a weird time right now because you

> still feel hungry and yet you think you should not be.>>

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Jackie,

I think we have all felt what you are feeling right now. I know I am

dealing with

it too. The band does not do it's job until you get to the right fill

level. I guess

a person really don't understand that until you get to that level and know

what it

feels like? I am not sure because I am not at that level yet. I was

banded

on July 22nd and have had 3 fills but am still not at the right spot yet

(I have the Vandguard (VG) band which holds more and is harder to

get to the right fill level).

I have to keep telling myself everyday that the band isn't working yet

because

I get frustrated at the fact that I have only lost about 10 pounds since

banding.

Somedays I try to " diet " and eat a whole lot less but I get so hungry.

Then I get

mad because I didn't get the band just to have to " diet " . Then I have to

remind myself again that the band is not working yet. Then someone asks

me how my weight loss is going and I get frustrated again.

a in KC

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Thanks for that a. I also have the Vanguard band. I'm hoping I

can go without a fill for a while. I see my consultant/advisor in

about 5 weeks to discuss the fills. Here in the U.K. we are on 4

weeks liquid, 4 weeks pureed/soft food and then on solids.

Regards.

Jackie

> Jackie,

>

> I think we have all felt what you are feeling right now. I know I

am

> dealing with

> it too. The band does not do it's job until you get to the right

fill

> level. I guess

> a person really don't understand that until you get to that level

and know

> what it

> feels like? I am not sure because I am not at that level yet. I

was

> banded

> on July 22nd and have had 3 fills but am still not at the right

spot yet

> (I have the Vandguard (VG) band which holds more and is harder to

> get to the right fill level).

>

> I have to keep telling myself everyday that the band isn't working

yet

> because

> I get frustrated at the fact that I have only lost about 10 pounds

since

> banding.

> Somedays I try to " diet " and eat a whole lot less but I get so

hungry.

> Then I get

> mad because I didn't get the band just to have to " diet " . Then I

have to

> remind myself again that the band is not working yet. Then someone

asks

> me how my weight loss is going and I get frustrated again.

>

> a in KC

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Probably you have autosensitivity on. Mine is autosensitivity on my BTE.

Water is pretty noisy on wide range of frequencies, so it turns them down.

-gs

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Hi all, does anyone know of any research about the %

of kids that will eventually outgrow epilepsy on their

own as opposed to those who who will only outgrow it

if they are medicated. My neurologist said that it

was only 5% that will outgrow it on their own, and 80%

will do so with meds. I think he's trying to scare

me, but I'd really LOVE to see the research papers.

HELP HELP HELP thanks elise

--- mark hogue <markhogue2002@...> wrote:

> CARLA,I WOULD STAY TOTALLY AWAY FROM ALL SODAS

> REGULAR OR DIET.IF YOU MUST HAVE SOMETHING TO DRINK,

> I'D SUGGEST LIKE HERBAL TEA'S,GREEN TEA'S PLUS

> DRINKING THE TEA'S HELP FLUSH OUT BAD THINGS IN YOUR

> BODY I'M TELLING THIS LIKE MYSELF,I DRANK PEPSI FOR

> OVER 40 YEARS AND QUIT COLD TURKEY.LAST YEAR I HAD

> MORE THAN 700 SEIZURES IN LESS THAN 6 MONTHS BEING

> ON KEPPRA AS SOON AS I GOT OFF OF IT I STARTED

> GETTING BETTER PLUS TAKING MY HERBS. CARLA,ALSO I

> THANK GOD EVERYDAY I DON'T HAVE SEIZURES. CARLA,MAY

> ALL YOUR DAYS BE BLESSED DAYS WITH LOVE,MARK FROM

> HOUSTON,TEXAS

>

> Carla Forsgren <jinxie1945@...> wrote:

> Im looking for info on Keppra (info that isnt

> tainted by drug

> companies). After more than 30 yrs on meds I went

> off them and was

> seizure free for 3 years. I had a seizure on June

> 3rd. After doing

> a lot of reading I found info on aspartame and I

> believe that is what

> caused the seizure. Shortly before it occurred I

> started drinking

> diet soda, which I never drank before. I also

> started having auras.

> As soon as I stopped so did the auras. I have been

> fine since that

> time (late June). However, I lost my driving

> privileges of course!

>

> My doctor doesnt believe the aspartame had anything

> to do with it

> and insists I go on Keppra. He told me it had

> little to no side

> affects other than slight drowsiness, and that it

> was one of the

> newest and mildest on the market.

>

> What really gets me is this is exactly what the

> doctors told me about

> Viox--Luckily I couldnt handle their mildest

> arthritis meds because I

> had immediate stomach reactions. The last time they

> wanted to give

> me an antiinflammatory they said that I couldnt take

> anything if I

> couldnt handle Viox!

>

> I have spent over 30 yrs half dead on my feet

> because of phenobarb

> and a few years with acid reflux because of

> dilantin. I have changed

> my diet--I eat all whole, organic foods, no sugar,

> excercise

> regularly and I feel better than I have in many

> years. I dont want

> to go on meds, but I need my drivers license back!

>

> If I dont take the Keppra, I dont get my license

> back. Any

> suggestions or info on Keppra including personal

> experience would be

> greatly appreciated!

>

> Thanks,

>

> Carla in PA

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Elise,

Someone once told me " It is like making a trail in grass, if you keep walking

on it, it will stay bald but if you stop walking on it , the grass will grow

back.

Finding the right meds is the key. By controlling the seizure " pathway " with

meds for an extended time will teach the brain not to seize.

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Well, yes I agree, in a perfect world finding the

perfect meds would be ideal. But, this being the

" real " imperfect world- it's not as easy said as done.

Josiah has been on four meds and had more seizures on

those meds than with nothing (how's that for some

grass fertilizer?) at this point I am told that we (as

do all pt's who have failed at 2 or more meds) have a

10% chance of EVER getting a medication to work for

us. So here we sit. trying alternative stuff,

considering a diet option and trying to figure out

whether psychosis will be better or worse than liver

failure if we have to try drugs again. FYI I found

two articles today at pub-med. Both concluded that

roughly 50% of people with epilepsy will have it end

on it's own with no intervention. Best of luck to

each and every one of us and our kids. There is no

pain like watching your child suffer and feeling

powerless. aloha

--- Traceygrubbs@... wrote:

> Elise,

> Someone once told me " It is like making a trail in

> grass, if you keep walking

> on it, it will stay bald but if you stop walking on

> it , the grass will grow

> back.

>

> Finding the right meds is the key. By controlling

> the seizure " pathway " with

> meds for an extended time will teach the brain not

> to seize.

>

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

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Elise,

I don't know, but I do believe that it is much higher than 5%. I do believe

that this doctor is trying to scare you and the only way to find out is to keep

doing what you are doing and see. How is it going?

Grace

Elise Strong <elisestrong@...> wrote:

Hi all, does anyone know of any research about the %

of kids that will eventually outgrow epilepsy on their

own as opposed to those who who will only outgrow it

if they are medicated. My neurologist said that it

was only 5% that will outgrow it on their own, and 80%

will do so with meds. I think he's trying to scare

me, but I'd really LOVE to see the research papers.

HELP HELP HELP thanks elise

--- mark hogue <markhogue2002@...> wrote:

> CARLA,I WOULD STAY TOTALLY AWAY FROM ALL SODAS

> REGULAR OR DIET.IF YOU MUST HAVE SOMETHING TO DRINK,

> I'D SUGGEST LIKE HERBAL TEA'S,GREEN TEA'S PLUS

> DRINKING THE TEA'S HELP FLUSH OUT BAD THINGS IN YOUR

> BODY I'M TELLING THIS LIKE MYSELF,I DRANK PEPSI FOR

> OVER 40 YEARS AND QUIT COLD TURKEY.LAST YEAR I HAD

> MORE THAN 700 SEIZURES IN LESS THAN 6 MONTHS BEING

> ON KEPPRA AS SOON AS I GOT OFF OF IT I STARTED

> GETTING BETTER PLUS TAKING MY HERBS. CARLA,ALSO I

> THANK GOD EVERYDAY I DON'T HAVE SEIZURES. CARLA,MAY

> ALL YOUR DAYS BE BLESSED DAYS WITH LOVE,MARK FROM

> HOUSTON,TEXAS

>

> Carla Forsgren <jinxie1945@...> wrote:

> Im looking for info on Keppra (info that isnt

> tainted by drug

> companies). After more than 30 yrs on meds I went

> off them and was

> seizure free for 3 years. I had a seizure on June

> 3rd. After doing

> a lot of reading I found info on aspartame and I

> believe that is what

> caused the seizure. Shortly before it occurred I

> started drinking

> diet soda, which I never drank before. I also

> started having auras.

> As soon as I stopped so did the auras. I have been

> fine since that

> time (late June). However, I lost my driving

> privileges of course!

>

> My doctor doesnt believe the aspartame had anything

> to do with it

> and insists I go on Keppra. He told me it had

> little to no side

> affects other than slight drowsiness, and that it

> was one of the

> newest and mildest on the market.

>

> What really gets me is this is exactly what the

> doctors told me about

> Viox--Luckily I couldnt handle their mildest

> arthritis meds because I

> had immediate stomach reactions. The last time they

> wanted to give

> me an antiinflammatory they said that I couldnt take

> anything if I

> couldnt handle Viox!

>

> I have spent over 30 yrs half dead on my feet

> because of phenobarb

> and a few years with acid reflux because of

> dilantin. I have changed

> my diet--I eat all whole, organic foods, no sugar,

> excercise

> regularly and I feel better than I have in many

> years. I dont want

> to go on meds, but I need my drivers license back!

>

> If I dont take the Keppra, I dont get my license

> back. Any

> suggestions or info on Keppra including personal

> experience would be

> greatly appreciated!

>

> Thanks,

>

> Carla in PA

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Elise,

Where did you find that article as I would love to show it to my neuro. That is

great news and I hope that it is right since, as you know, I also want to take

off of the meds. He also tried to scare me once when I mentioned this

to him. I also just found out from my in laws that my brother in law also had

seizures while growing up and that he outgrew them without meds. I didn't know

anyone in the family had seizures so this was a big shock to me. This, of

course, doesn't mean that will also outgrow them, but I hope to God

that she does. How's Josiah doing off the meds? I hope he's doing GREAT!

Grace

Elise Strong <elisestrong@...> wrote:

Well, yes I agree, in a perfect world finding the

perfect meds would be ideal. But, this being the

" real " imperfect world- it's not as easy said as done.

Josiah has been on four meds and had more seizures on

those meds than with nothing (how's that for some

grass fertilizer?) at this point I am told that we (as

do all pt's who have failed at 2 or more meds) have a

10% chance of EVER getting a medication to work for

us. So here we sit. trying alternative stuff,

considering a diet option and trying to figure out

whether psychosis will be better or worse than liver

failure if we have to try drugs again. FYI I found

two articles today at pub-med. Both concluded that

roughly 50% of people with epilepsy will have it end

on it's own with no intervention. Best of luck to

each and every one of us and our kids. There is no

pain like watching your child suffer and feeling

powerless. aloha

--- Traceygrubbs@... wrote:

> Elise,

> Someone once told me " It is like making a trail in

> grass, if you keep walking

> on it, it will stay bald but if you stop walking on

> it , the grass will grow

> back.

>

> Finding the right meds is the key. By controlling

> the seizure " pathway " with

> meds for an extended time will teach the brain not

> to seize.

>

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

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Elise,

Trust me, I know your frustrations and I know your pain (just thinking back

brings tears to my eyes).

My child started having seizures out of the blue at nine years old, nocturnal

epilepsy (frontal lobe- the hardest kind to control). Eleven months my child

had between 3 and 9 seizures a night, every night. I went through hell. The

worst part was that b/c there are so many stupid doctors out there that have

never heard of nocturnal seizures she went 4-5 months misdiagnosed. We went

through if I remember right 5-6 meds, two at a time-nothing, I mean absolutely

nothing helped. Mega side affects and still plenty of seizures. So, I know what

it

feels like when you are helpless and to top it off, the stupid doctors are

saying there is nothing wrong with your child, you are the one with the problem.

Elise, most of us in this group have experienced what you are going through

right now. It is hell on earth. But don't give up hope and for God sakes don't

deprive that child of meds, if he needs them. I know, I don't know your

cicumstances all the way, but learn, find the info just as you are doing and

make

your self knowledgeable on treatment meds. Send me a fax number and I'll send

you some info I found useful in decidding what meds to use with mine.

We ended up with the combination of Depakote and Zonegram and she is not

100% seizure free but her seizures are down to a couple of seconds and they

consist of a grunt.

God bless,

Tracey

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Tracey,

You said that your son had nocturnal seizures, how did you find this out and

what exactly was he doing during these seizures. Thanks!

Grace

Traceygrubbs@... wrote:

Elise,

Trust me, I know your frustrations and I know your pain (just thinking back

brings tears to my eyes).

My child started having seizures out of the blue at nine years old, nocturnal

epilepsy (frontal lobe- the hardest kind to control). Eleven months my child

had between 3 and 9 seizures a night, every night. I went through hell. The

worst part was that b/c there are so many stupid doctors out there that have

never heard of nocturnal seizures she went 4-5 months misdiagnosed. We went

through if I remember right 5-6 meds, two at a time-nothing, I mean absolutely

nothing helped. Mega side affects and still plenty of seizures. So, I know what

it

feels like when you are helpless and to top it off, the stupid doctors are

saying there is nothing wrong with your child, you are the one with the problem.

Elise, most of us in this group have experienced what you are going through

right now. It is hell on earth. But don't give up hope and for God sakes don't

deprive that child of meds, if he needs them. I know, I don't know your

cicumstances all the way, but learn, find the info just as you are doing and

make

your self knowledgeable on treatment meds. Send me a fax number and I'll send

you some info I found useful in decidding what meds to use with mine.

We ended up with the combination of Depakote and Zonegram and she is not

100% seizure free but her seizures are down to a couple of seconds and they

consist of a grunt.

God bless,

Tracey

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Grace,

, my daughter, started out with what I thought were nightmares. She

would sit up in the bed, eyes real wide and most of the time she would say "

momma, momma ...They first thought it was night terrors. B/c honestly they

looked

like she woke up from a bad dream. But the worst part was, these were partial

seizures she was having, they soon became generalized and lasted 5min.

And as I mentioned, it was hell getting her diagnosed b/c in order for her to

have a seizure she had to be asleep. We finally ended at Bowman Gray- Winston

Salem, NC at the emergency room one night and I bassically told them that I

was not leaving until they did something. They let her go to sleep right there

in the ER and she had a total of 3 seizures withing about 2 1/2 hrs. and the

doctor told me that he did not blame me for not taking her home. A couple of

hours later we were on the epilepsy unit, she has frontal lobe seizures.

Tracey

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Leela,

Thank you for the advice. I will go exercise this afternoon, even though it

seems like it will be the most difficult thing ever. I don't want to lose this

guy, but you are right, perhaps the rain will help me see the sun shine

brighter. Any other pieces of advice--friends are few and far between right

now.

Leela <leelawrites@...> wrote:

Dear ,

I'm so sorry you're having such a rough week. Did

something happen to trigger a recurrence of your

depression?--the same thing happened to me a week ago

when I moved to a new apartment, my depression came

back. It was so frustrating and upsetting, just when

I was started to feel good again. Once the initial

stress was gone, it receded again.

Maybe you've built up tolerance to your 15mg of Lex

and need to raise it a bit. I hope you will talk to

your doctor about your recurrence of depression--it's

so difficult to deal with it alone!

A relationship that's meant to be will survive an

episode of depression, even if it causes temporary

strain. I know it's really hard not to worry about

it, but when you're depressed you have to focus on

taking care of yourself. I thought I was doing

terrible damage to my relationship with my latest

episode of depression--but once I recovered we emerged

closer than before. Everything looks so much worse

when you're depressed.

Some things that helped me out of my latest episode of

depression: taking a break, doing positive things

with friends, exercising, breaking tasks down into

very small, manageable steps. I hope you feel better

soon!

Leela

--- Moser wrote:

>

> I've been on lex for 6 months for depression.

> Things were great for a while. The last few

> days--horrible. How in goodness name do you explain

> a disease like this to someone you love. The last

> time I tried he left just as quickly as the words

> can come out of my mouth. Now I am ruining a

> wonderful relationship with my hopelessness and

> inability to stop crying. I am so afraid of losing

> him, it is making me sick to my stomach. How do all

> of you find happiness in a relationship when you are

> unable to find happiness in yourself?

>

>

> alisonjoan@... wrote:

> Dear ,

>

> I am so sorry you are having such a hard week .

> When did you start

> taking lex would be my first question and also are

> you taking it for

> depression or anxiety or both? the reason I ask is

> because I have been on

> lex a little over a month and I noticed that I

> cannot stop crying and I

> feel depressed more often. I did not have that

> before the lex. I am

> taking it for anxiety. Really you need to tell your

> dr. this is

> happening to you. or have you? Please keep writing

> here. I am here for

> you . Alison

> On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 05:30:21 -0800 (PST) Moser

> writes:

> >

> > I am having a tough week--crying constantly, not

> feeling happy at

> > all ever, despondent, without hope, etc. I am

> ruining a great

> > relationship and my work is suffering. I talk to

> my therapist--but

> > it is a slow process. I am on 15 mg lex. Any

> helpful ideas or

> > words of advice?

> >

> >

> > ruadhdarragh wrote:

> >

> > I am SO sorry to hear about all you've gone

> through. I can't even

> > imagine. I can try to offer hope, though.

> >

> > Before I started taking Lex, I was considering

> just quitting my job,

> >

> > not applying to school for next year's term like I

> had been planning

> >

> > to, the housecleaning was piling up, all I wanted

> to do was sleep

> > all

> > day, etc.

> >

> > Since I started on the Lex I'm back to my old self

> again, and I'm so

> >

> > glad I didn't make any rash decisions. I'm still

> employed,

> > application to school has been sent, and I can see

> the floor again

> > in

> > my house. LOL

> >

> > Please encourage your wife not to make any

> decisions just yet. For

> >

> > that matter, neither of you should make any big

> decisions right now.

> >

> > Depression often wreaks havoc on our perception

> and decision-making

> >

> > skills.

> >

> > Stick with the medication and the counselling. I

> hope everything

> > turns out for the best.

> >

> > Blessings

> >

> >

> > >

> > > My wife and I tried for 3 years to have

> children. We finally

> > found

> > > out that we were pregnant last year at

> Thanksgiving. We lost the

> >

> > > pregnancy at 11 weeks. Then we found out that

> we were pregnant

> > again

> > > in July only to lose that one as well.

> > >

> > > My wife has slipped into depression and started

> taking lexapro one

> >

> > > week ago. I also started two days after her. A

> month a go she

> > said

> > > she was not sure if she loved me and was wanting

> to consider a

> > trial

> > > separation. I am terrified about this.

> > >

> > > Anyway our counselor said that when suffering

> from depression you

> > can

> > > question everything and can sometimes lose the

> ability to love and

> >

> > > she maybe associating me with the sadness.

> > >

> > > I am looking for positive stories regarding

> lexapro. I need to

> > hear

> > > good things to give me hope. Thanks for you

> stories in advance.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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I know that things seem very grim right now, but you just need to keep talking.

Communication is the #1 way for you to let us know how you feel & how we can

help you feel better. I am availible any time day or night to help support you

& anyone else who needs someone to talk to.

Lots & lots of love & huggs,

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It may sound silly, but something that helped me was looking for

things to be thankful for. Some days this is a difficult thing, but

I always manage to find something, even if it's just that the day is

over. I keep a journal, and write one thing in it every day. It

helps you to realize that there are still good things in your life,

and helps you to focus a bit less on the negative things that are

happening.

Kathy

> Leela,

> Thank you for the advice. I will go exercise this afternoon, even

though it seems like it will be the most difficult thing ever. I

don't want to lose this guy, but you are right, perhaps the rain will

help me see the sun shine brighter. Any other pieces of advice--

friends are few and far between right now.

>

>

> Leela <leelawrites@y...> wrote:

>

> Dear ,

>

> I'm so sorry you're having such a rough week. Did

> something happen to trigger a recurrence of your

> depression?--the same thing happened to me a week ago

> when I moved to a new apartment, my depression came

> back. It was so frustrating and upsetting, just when

> I was started to feel good again. Once the initial

> stress was gone, it receded again.

>

> Maybe you've built up tolerance to your 15mg of Lex

> and need to raise it a bit. I hope you will talk to

> your doctor about your recurrence of depression--it's

> so difficult to deal with it alone!

>

> A relationship that's meant to be will survive an

> episode of depression, even if it causes temporary

> strain. I know it's really hard not to worry about

> it, but when you're depressed you have to focus on

> taking care of yourself. I thought I was doing

> terrible damage to my relationship with my latest

> episode of depression--but once I recovered we emerged

> closer than before. Everything looks so much worse

> when you're depressed.

>

> Some things that helped me out of my latest episode of

> depression: taking a break, doing positive things

> with friends, exercising, breaking tasks down into

> very small, manageable steps. I hope you feel better

> soon!

>

> Leela

>

>

>

> --- Moser wrote:

>

> >

> > I've been on lex for 6 months for depression.

> > Things were great for a while. The last few

> > days--horrible. How in goodness name do you explain

> > a disease like this to someone you love. The last

> > time I tried he left just as quickly as the words

> > can come out of my mouth. Now I am ruining a

> > wonderful relationship with my hopelessness and

> > inability to stop crying. I am so afraid of losing

> > him, it is making me sick to my stomach. How do all

> > of you find happiness in a relationship when you are

> > unable to find happiness in yourself?

> >

> >

> > alisonjoan@j... wrote:

> > Dear ,

> >

> > I am so sorry you are having such a hard week .

> > When did you start

> > taking lex would be my first question and also are

> > you taking it for

> > depression or anxiety or both? the reason I ask is

> > because I have been on

> > lex a little over a month and I noticed that I

> > cannot stop crying and I

> > feel depressed more often. I did not have that

> > before the lex. I am

> > taking it for anxiety. Really you need to tell your

> > dr. this is

> > happening to you. or have you? Please keep writing

> > here. I am here for

> > you . Alison

> > On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 05:30:21 -0800 (PST) Moser

> > writes:

> > >

> > > I am having a tough week--crying constantly, not

> > feeling happy at

> > > all ever, despondent, without hope, etc. I am

> > ruining a great

> > > relationship and my work is suffering. I talk to

> > my therapist--but

> > > it is a slow process. I am on 15 mg lex. Any

> > helpful ideas or

> > > words of advice?

> > >

> > >

> > > ruadhdarragh wrote:

> > >

> > > I am SO sorry to hear about all you've gone

> > through. I can't even

> > > imagine. I can try to offer hope, though.

> > >

> > > Before I started taking Lex, I was considering

> > just quitting my job,

> > >

> > > not applying to school for next year's term like I

> > had been planning

> > >

> > > to, the housecleaning was piling up, all I wanted

> > to do was sleep

> > > all

> > > day, etc.

> > >

> > > Since I started on the Lex I'm back to my old self

> > again, and I'm so

> > >

> > > glad I didn't make any rash decisions. I'm still

> > employed,

> > > application to school has been sent, and I can see

> > the floor again

> > > in

> > > my house. LOL

> > >

> > > Please encourage your wife not to make any

> > decisions just yet. For

> > >

> > > that matter, neither of you should make any big

> > decisions right now.

> > >

> > > Depression often wreaks havoc on our perception

> > and decision-making

> > >

> > > skills.

> > >

> > > Stick with the medication and the counselling. I

> > hope everything

> > > turns out for the best.

> > >

> > > Blessings

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > My wife and I tried for 3 years to have

> > children. We finally

> > > found

> > > > out that we were pregnant last year at

> > Thanksgiving. We lost the

> > >

> > > > pregnancy at 11 weeks. Then we found out that

> > we were pregnant

> > > again

> > > > in July only to lose that one as well.

> > > >

> > > > My wife has slipped into depression and started

> > taking lexapro one

> > >

> > > > week ago. I also started two days after her. A

> > month a go she

> > > said

> > > > she was not sure if she loved me and was wanting

> > to consider a

> > > trial

> > > > separation. I am terrified about this.

> > > >

> > > > Anyway our counselor said that when suffering

> > from depression you

> > > can

> > > > question everything and can sometimes lose the

> > ability to love and

> > >

> > > > she maybe associating me with the sadness.

> > > >

> > > > I am looking for positive stories regarding

> > lexapro. I need to

> > > hear

> > > > good things to give me hope. Thanks for you

> > stories in advance.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Hi Jody,

Are you on any antibiotics? Have you seen or talked to the doctor who did the surgery? My husband was put on Floxin drops for post surgical infection. Please keep in mind that drainage after surgery is normal.

Please contact the doctor who did the surgery. He/she should be able to put your mind at ease. I hope this isn't too hard considering that you are in Austrailia. Good luck to you and keep us posted.

Michele, Group Moderator

pottersgotthesnitch <bolter6@...> wrote:

Me again,I am in desperate need of information about POST OP infection. I have had a mastoidectomy 31st Jan and ear is now infected.Has anyone had similar, I really need some help as to what I should be doing.ThanksJody

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Jody:

I would go and see your Doc again, the drange should

be more of a clear fluid. Weither or not you have

private ins or public the Doc should have done the

same quality of a job regardless how he got payed. It

would not hurt if after you see your Doc again if not

happy with what you hear to get a 2nd opinion.

Normally I would not be alarmed by the drainge as that

will happen for about a year or so after a

mastoidectomy but it should not be more green than

clear. The blood would be normal to be mixed into the

drainage especially this close to being post op...

tom hansen

--- Jody <bolter6@...> wrote:

> Hi Michele,

>

> Thanks for the answer. I was experiencing blood

> discharging from my ear but now the discharge is a

> gunky green colour. It looks and feels the same as

> when I suffered from chronic middle ear infection.

> I went to the emergency department at the hospital

> as my ear dr is on holidays. The other doctor who

> operated did not come and have a look but told the

> ER doctor to prescribe oral antibiotics just in

> case. The ER doctor thought it looked infected

> (it's actually pretty gross looking) but didn't want

> to play around with it in case she got into trouble.

>

> All of a sudden I understand the value of private

> health insurance!!

>

> Thanks for your help

> Jody

>

>

> " Humans have a knack for choosing precisely the

> things that are worst for them. " - Albus Dumbledore

>

>

>

> Re: HELP please

>

>

> Hi Jody,

>

> Are you on any antibiotics? Have you seen or

> talked to the doctor who did the surgery? My

> husband was put on Floxin drops for post surgical

> infection. Please keep in mind that drainage after

> surgery is normal.

>

> Please contact the doctor who did the surgery.

> He/she should be able to put your mind at ease. I

> hope this isn't too hard considering that you are in

> Austrailia. Good luck to you and keep us posted.

>

> Michele, Group Moderator

>

>

> pottersgotthesnitch <bolter6@...> wrote:

>

> Me again,

>

> I am in desperate need of information about POST

> OP infection.

> I have had a mastoidectomy 31st Jan and ear is

> now infected.

>

> Has anyone had similar, I really need some help

> as to what I should

> be doing.

>

> Thanks

> Jody

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi Jody

The first time I had ctoma surgery, it was open cavity operation and the ear was filled with gauze packing. A couple of days post-surgery it stared to bleed quite heavily and I panicked and ran off to see my GP. He also found it alarming and sent me straight off to the hospital. They told me that such a thing was perfectly normal at this stage following surgery. A day or two later the drainage turned into a messy yellow-brown gunge (a mixture of blood and pus) and the packing became brittle and started to break off. Eventually the discharge turned into a clear liquid that had a curious medicinal smell to it and started to form crystals in the outer ear.

It's worth checking with your doctor if only to ease your mind but I wouldn't be surprised if what you are experiencing isn't just part of the initial healing process. It's looks alarming because the ear is such a mess in the beginning. If your doctor isn't available it might be better just to go back to the clinic and talk to other ENT staff. They would know far more about what happens after ear surgery than a GP or doctor in A & E. It would save a lot of worry if the doctors told us what to expect imeediately after the surgery.

Phil

Hi Michele,

Thanks for the answer. I was experiencing blood discharging from my ear but now the discharge is a gunky green colour. It looks and feels the same as when I suffered from chronic middle ear infection.

I went to the emergency department at the hospital as my ear dr is on holidays. The other doctor who operated did not come and have a look but told the ER doctor to prescribe oral antibiotics just in case. The ER doctor thought it looked infected (it's actually pretty gross looking) but didn't want to play around with it in case she got into trouble.

All of a sudden I understand the value of private health insurance!!

Thanks for your help

Jody

"Humans have a knack for choosing precisely the things that are worst for them." - Albus Dumbledore

Re: HELP please

Hi Jody,

Are you on any antibiotics? Have you seen or talked to the doctor who did the surgery? My husband was put on Floxin drops for post surgical infection. Please keep in mind that drainage after surgery is normal.

Please contact the doctor who did the surgery. He/she should be able to put your mind at ease. I hope this isn't too hard considering that you are in Austrailia. Good luck to you and keep us posted.

Michele, Group Moderator

pottersgotthesnitch <bolter6@...> wrote:

Me again,I am in desperate need of information about POST OP infection. I have had a mastoidectomy 31st Jan and ear is now infected.Has anyone had similar, I really need some help as to what I should be doing.ThanksJody

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Hi Michele,

Thanks for the answer. I was experiencing blood discharging from my ear but now the discharge is a gunky green colour. It looks and feels the same as when I suffered from chronic middle ear infection.

I went to the emergency department at the hospital as my ear dr is on holidays. The other doctor who operated did not come and have a look but told the ER doctor to prescribe oral antibiotics just in case. The ER doctor thought it looked infected (it's actually pretty gross looking) but didn't want to play around with it in case she got into trouble.

All of a sudden I understand the value of private health insurance!!

Thanks for your help

Jody

"Humans have a knack for choosing precisely the things that are worst for them." - Albus Dumbledore

Re: HELP please

Hi Jody,

Are you on any antibiotics? Have you seen or talked to the doctor who did the surgery? My husband was put on Floxin drops for post surgical infection. Please keep in mind that drainage after surgery is normal.

Please contact the doctor who did the surgery. He/she should be able to put your mind at ease. I hope this isn't too hard considering that you are in Austrailia. Good luck to you and keep us posted.

Michele, Group Moderator

pottersgotthesnitch <bolter6@...> wrote:

Me again,I am in desperate need of information about POST OP infection. I have had a mastoidectomy 31st Jan and ear is now infected.Has anyone had similar, I really need some help as to what I should be doing.ThanksJody

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Hi everyone,

Thanks all for your help. It is much(!) appreciated, as you said Phil, it would help if they warned us about all this!

I'm sure they did a great job during the op, it's getting someone to look at it now that has been the problem. My post op check is in one week and I feel better having had some advice from you guys (it really does help to know that your not the only one!).

Thanks again

Jody

"Humans have a knack for choosing precisely the things that are worst for them." - Albus Dumbledore

Re: HELP please

Hi Jody,

Are you on any antibiotics? Have you seen or talked to the doctor who did the surgery? My husband was put on Floxin drops for post surgical infection. Please keep in mind that drainage after surgery is normal.

Please contact the doctor who did the surgery. He/she should be able to put your mind at ease. I hope this isn't too hard considering that you are in Austrailia. Good luck to you and keep us posted.

Michele, Group Moderator

pottersgotthesnitch <bolter6@...> wrote:

Me again,I am in desperate need of information about POST OP infection. I have had a mastoidectomy 31st Jan and ear is now infected.Has anyone had similar, I really need some help as to what I should be doing.ThanksJody

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