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Hi,

Not sure about the school district since my son is home-schooled. However,

the MHMR services have assured me several times that even THEIR services

stand for Mental Health and Mental Retardation Services cover all kind of

neurological disabilities including autism eventhough it is not considered

mental retardation. Your son should not be considered mentally-retarded

just because he failed the IQ test. The IQ test is written for a different

population in mind. That's my opinion anyway. Again, I don't know how the

school handles it.

---- Original Message -----

From: " JoAnn " <jbridges99@...>

<Autism Treatment >

Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 2:10 AM

Subject: Testing Questions

> I am a parent of a 12 year old boy with autism. Our school district

> has just completed his latest 3 year evaluations and we are going to

> ARD next week. Previously his labels for receiving services was

> autism, learning disabled. They want to change this based on their

> results to autism, mental retardation. This is based on his scores

> for the IQ tests they administered.

>

> One of the reason they told me that this should be done now is that

> the mental retardation label will make him eligible for more service

> in the community (like MHMR services) when he is older. I am

> somewhat distrusting of the ISD and want to be sure of what this

> label will mean for him as far as what services they have to provide

> and what will be

> available to him long term. I disagree with the label for a variety

> of reasons but want to understand the pros/cons on it as it pertains

> to services and support both from the ISD now and the community long

> term.

>

> I am trying to find some resources or another parent who can give me

> some advice on this.

> Also would like to email with any parents who would be willing to

> share their experiences of having an older child with autism and the

> changes as they approach middle and high school.

>

>

>

>

> Unlocking Autism

> www.UnlockingAutism.org

>

> Autism-Awareness-Action

> Worldwide internet group for parents who have a

> child with AUTISM.

>

> SeekingJoyinDisability - Prayer support for those touched by Disability:

> SeekingJoyinDisability/

>

>

>

>

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Hi,

Not sure about the school district since my son is home-schooled. However,

the MHMR services have assured me several times that even THEIR services

stand for Mental Health and Mental Retardation Services cover all kind of

neurological disabilities including autism eventhough it is not considered

mental retardation. Your son should not be considered mentally-retarded

just because he failed the IQ test. The IQ test is written for a different

population in mind. That's my opinion anyway. Again, I don't know how the

school handles it.

---- Original Message -----

From: " JoAnn " <jbridges99@...>

<Autism Treatment >

Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 2:10 AM

Subject: Testing Questions

> I am a parent of a 12 year old boy with autism. Our school district

> has just completed his latest 3 year evaluations and we are going to

> ARD next week. Previously his labels for receiving services was

> autism, learning disabled. They want to change this based on their

> results to autism, mental retardation. This is based on his scores

> for the IQ tests they administered.

>

> One of the reason they told me that this should be done now is that

> the mental retardation label will make him eligible for more service

> in the community (like MHMR services) when he is older. I am

> somewhat distrusting of the ISD and want to be sure of what this

> label will mean for him as far as what services they have to provide

> and what will be

> available to him long term. I disagree with the label for a variety

> of reasons but want to understand the pros/cons on it as it pertains

> to services and support both from the ISD now and the community long

> term.

>

> I am trying to find some resources or another parent who can give me

> some advice on this.

> Also would like to email with any parents who would be willing to

> share their experiences of having an older child with autism and the

> changes as they approach middle and high school.

>

>

>

>

> Unlocking Autism

> www.UnlockingAutism.org

>

> Autism-Awareness-Action

> Worldwide internet group for parents who have a

> child with AUTISM.

>

> SeekingJoyinDisability - Prayer support for those touched by Disability:

> SeekingJoyinDisability/

>

>

>

>

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JoAnn

A diagnosis of MR will make your child ineligible for any services from

the CLASS program which is a Medicade waiver program. It is best to

just keep the autism diagnosis to receive the most services. He can

still get services through MHMR with the diagnosis of autism. I would

not put the MR label on him.

in Austin

Testing Questions

I am a parent of a 12 year old boy with autism. Our school district

has just completed his latest 3 year evaluations and we are going to

ARD next week. Previously his labels for receiving services was

autism, learning disabled. They want to change this based on their

results to autism, mental retardation. This is based on his scores

for the IQ tests they administered.

One of the reason they told me that this should be done now is that

the mental retardation label will make him eligible for more service

in the community (like MHMR services) when he is older. I am

somewhat distrusting of the ISD and want to be sure of what this

label will mean for him as far as what services they have to provide

and what will be

available to him long term. I disagree with the label for a variety

of reasons but want to understand the pros/cons on it as it pertains

to services and support both from the ISD now and the community long

term.

I am trying to find some resources or another parent who can give me

some advice on this.

Also would like to email with any parents who would be willing to

share their experiences of having an older child with autism and the

changes as they approach middle and high school.

Unlocking Autism

www.UnlockingAutism.org

Autism-Awareness-Action

Worldwide internet group for parents who have a

child with AUTISM.

SeekingJoyinDisability - Prayer support for those touched by Disability:

SeekingJoyinDisability/

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JoAnn

A diagnosis of MR will make your child ineligible for any services from

the CLASS program which is a Medicade waiver program. It is best to

just keep the autism diagnosis to receive the most services. He can

still get services through MHMR with the diagnosis of autism. I would

not put the MR label on him.

in Austin

Testing Questions

I am a parent of a 12 year old boy with autism. Our school district

has just completed his latest 3 year evaluations and we are going to

ARD next week. Previously his labels for receiving services was

autism, learning disabled. They want to change this based on their

results to autism, mental retardation. This is based on his scores

for the IQ tests they administered.

One of the reason they told me that this should be done now is that

the mental retardation label will make him eligible for more service

in the community (like MHMR services) when he is older. I am

somewhat distrusting of the ISD and want to be sure of what this

label will mean for him as far as what services they have to provide

and what will be

available to him long term. I disagree with the label for a variety

of reasons but want to understand the pros/cons on it as it pertains

to services and support both from the ISD now and the community long

term.

I am trying to find some resources or another parent who can give me

some advice on this.

Also would like to email with any parents who would be willing to

share their experiences of having an older child with autism and the

changes as they approach middle and high school.

Unlocking Autism

www.UnlockingAutism.org

Autism-Awareness-Action

Worldwide internet group for parents who have a

child with AUTISM.

SeekingJoyinDisability - Prayer support for those touched by Disability:

SeekingJoyinDisability/

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JoAnn,

Mental retardation is NOT a requirement for MHMR services and there are services

available for children. I'm the South Plains parent trainer and the brochure

below has just been approved through the children's services at MHMR. You can

go to their state page and read up on Benefit Design http://www.mhmr.state.tx.us

if the brochure doesn't have enough info.

Tonya Hettler

TX Federation of Families, training specialist

http://www.txffcmh.org

Unlocking Autism, TX Rep

http://www.unlockingautism.org

West Texas Information Network, Owner

w-i-n

Why now?

HB 2292 requires the State to consolidate the existing twelve (12) Health &

Human Services Agencies into five (5).

HB 1 – Rider 68 requires more efficiency & accountability of services provided

by realigning operations of the existing 12 Health and Human Services Agencies.

The agencies involved are:

• Texas Health and Human Services Commission (HHSC)

• Texas Department of Health (TDH)

• Texas Department of Human Services (TDHS)

• Texas Department of Mental Health and Mental Retardation (TDMHMR)

• Texas Department of Protective and Regulatory Services (TDPRS)

• Texas Department on Aging (TDOA)

• Texas Commission for the Blind (TCB)

• Texas Commission for the Deaf and Hard of Hearing (TCDHH)

• Texas Commission on Alcohol and Drug Abuse (TCADA)

• Texas Rehabilitation Commission (TRC)

• Interagency Council on Early Childhood Intervention Services (ECI)

• Health Care Information Council (HCIC)

The new agencies will be:

• Department of Aging and Disability Services

• Department of State Health Services

• Department of Family and Protective Services

• Department of Assistive and Rehabilitative Services

What is Disease Management?

Disease Management is a science-based approach to improving the lives of Texans

with severe and persistent mental illness.

Goals of Disease Management

• Prevent or reduce acute (severe/dangerous) episodes

• Decrease residual (remaining) symptoms of illness

• Improve overall health

• Increase productivity and/or functioning

• Reduce health care costs

What is Benefit Design?

A systematic approach to better defining:

• Who we serve

• What services are offered (eligibility)

• How use of the services are managed

• The price the state will pay for a service

• Measured outcomes for the individual

• Performance measures for the system

What is TRAG?

TRAG stands for Texas Recommended Authorization Guidelines. It is a system for

the Local Mental Health Authority and their providers (doctors, caseworkers,

etc.) to use to assess the service needs and recommend an eligible level of care

for persons in the public mental health system.

How does the TRAG do this?

The TRAG considers:

• The severity of the problem

• How the child functions (at home, at school and in the community)

• The child’s risk of self-harm

• The child’s disruptive or aggressive behavior

• Family resources (financial, social supports, family stressors, strengths)

• History of psychiatric treatment

• Co-occurring substance abuse

• Juvenile Justice Involvement

• School behavior

• Psychoactive medication treatment

What happens next?

At intake, the child will be assigned a Level of Care (LOC) based on their

functioning and the guidelines in the TRAG.

Crisis intervention services will continue to be available whether your child is

currently involved in the Mental Health System or not.

What may be included in a LOC?

Each LOC (Level of Care) provides services to improve the child’s functioning

and management of the illness. The services, based on the assessment, can

include one, or many, and are not limited to the following:

 Skills training for the child and/or parent

 Family Psycho-education

 Care/Case Coordination

 Family/Parent Support Group

 Medication

 Medication Management

 Family Partner/Mentor

 Counseling

 Psychiatric Evaluation and/or Services

 Rehabilitative Case Management

 Respite

 Flex Funds

 After Care Services

 Multi-Systemic Treatment

 Treatment Care

When and where will this take effect?

As of September 2003, the pilot sites began using the Benefit Design Program and

the Children & Adolescent TRAG. The program is scheduled to go statewide in

fiscal year 2005.

The four pilot sites selected are:

• Hill County Community MHMR Services

• Lubbock Regional MHMR Center

• MHMR of Tarrant County

• Texas Panhandle MHMR

Who can I contact about this project, and how?

Visit the web page at:

http://www.mhmr.state.tx.us/CentralOffice/

BehavioralHealthServices/BenefitDesign.html

OR mail questions to:

Texas Dept. of MHMR

Benefit Design Workgroup

P.O. Box 12668

Austin, TX 78711-2668

To receive information on training’s’ about Benefit Design, to inquire about

other training topics or for information on a Federation of Families chapter in

your area contact:

Texas Federation of Families for Children’s Mental Health

7701 North Lamar, Suite 505

Austin, Texas 78752-1025

(512) 407-8844 phone

(512) 407-8266 fax

(866) 893-3264 toll free

info@...

http://www.txffcmh.org

Local TFFCMH Chapter

South Plains contact:

Tonya Hettler, TXFFCMH Trainer

Email: spff@...

This publication is a project of the Texas Federation of Families for

Children’s Mental Health in collaboration with the Texas Department of Mental

Health and Mental Retardation.

Revised: 11/21/2003

Testing Questions

I am a parent of a 12 year old boy with autism. Our school district

has just completed his latest 3 year evaluations and we are going to

ARD next week. Previously his labels for receiving services was

autism, learning disabled. They want to change this based on their

results to autism, mental retardation. This is based on his scores

for the IQ tests they administered.

One of the reason they told me that this should be done now is that

the mental retardation label will make him eligible for more service

in the community (like MHMR services) when he is older. I am

somewhat distrusting of the ISD and want to be sure of what this

label will mean for him as far as what services they have to provide

and what will be

available to him long term. I disagree with the label for a variety

of reasons but want to understand the pros/cons on it as it pertains

to services and support both from the ISD now and the community long

term.

I am trying to find some resources or another parent who can give me

some advice on this.

Also would like to email with any parents who would be willing to

share their experiences of having an older child with autism and the

changes as they approach middle and high school.

Unlocking Autism

www.UnlockingAutism.org

Autism-Awareness-Action

Worldwide internet group for parents who have a

child with AUTISM.

SeekingJoyinDisability - Prayer support for those touched by Disability:

SeekingJoyinDisability/

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JoAnn,

Mental retardation is NOT a requirement for MHMR services and there are services

available for children. I'm the South Plains parent trainer and the brochure

below has just been approved through the children's services at MHMR. You can

go to their state page and read up on Benefit Design http://www.mhmr.state.tx.us

if the brochure doesn't have enough info.

Tonya Hettler

TX Federation of Families, training specialist

http://www.txffcmh.org

Unlocking Autism, TX Rep

http://www.unlockingautism.org

West Texas Information Network, Owner

w-i-n

Why now?

HB 2292 requires the State to consolidate the existing twelve (12) Health &

Human Services Agencies into five (5).

HB 1 – Rider 68 requires more efficiency & accountability of services provided

by realigning operations of the existing 12 Health and Human Services Agencies.

The agencies involved are:

• Texas Health and Human Services Commission (HHSC)

• Texas Department of Health (TDH)

• Texas Department of Human Services (TDHS)

• Texas Department of Mental Health and Mental Retardation (TDMHMR)

• Texas Department of Protective and Regulatory Services (TDPRS)

• Texas Department on Aging (TDOA)

• Texas Commission for the Blind (TCB)

• Texas Commission for the Deaf and Hard of Hearing (TCDHH)

• Texas Commission on Alcohol and Drug Abuse (TCADA)

• Texas Rehabilitation Commission (TRC)

• Interagency Council on Early Childhood Intervention Services (ECI)

• Health Care Information Council (HCIC)

The new agencies will be:

• Department of Aging and Disability Services

• Department of State Health Services

• Department of Family and Protective Services

• Department of Assistive and Rehabilitative Services

What is Disease Management?

Disease Management is a science-based approach to improving the lives of Texans

with severe and persistent mental illness.

Goals of Disease Management

• Prevent or reduce acute (severe/dangerous) episodes

• Decrease residual (remaining) symptoms of illness

• Improve overall health

• Increase productivity and/or functioning

• Reduce health care costs

What is Benefit Design?

A systematic approach to better defining:

• Who we serve

• What services are offered (eligibility)

• How use of the services are managed

• The price the state will pay for a service

• Measured outcomes for the individual

• Performance measures for the system

What is TRAG?

TRAG stands for Texas Recommended Authorization Guidelines. It is a system for

the Local Mental Health Authority and their providers (doctors, caseworkers,

etc.) to use to assess the service needs and recommend an eligible level of care

for persons in the public mental health system.

How does the TRAG do this?

The TRAG considers:

• The severity of the problem

• How the child functions (at home, at school and in the community)

• The child’s risk of self-harm

• The child’s disruptive or aggressive behavior

• Family resources (financial, social supports, family stressors, strengths)

• History of psychiatric treatment

• Co-occurring substance abuse

• Juvenile Justice Involvement

• School behavior

• Psychoactive medication treatment

What happens next?

At intake, the child will be assigned a Level of Care (LOC) based on their

functioning and the guidelines in the TRAG.

Crisis intervention services will continue to be available whether your child is

currently involved in the Mental Health System or not.

What may be included in a LOC?

Each LOC (Level of Care) provides services to improve the child’s functioning

and management of the illness. The services, based on the assessment, can

include one, or many, and are not limited to the following:

 Skills training for the child and/or parent

 Family Psycho-education

 Care/Case Coordination

 Family/Parent Support Group

 Medication

 Medication Management

 Family Partner/Mentor

 Counseling

 Psychiatric Evaluation and/or Services

 Rehabilitative Case Management

 Respite

 Flex Funds

 After Care Services

 Multi-Systemic Treatment

 Treatment Care

When and where will this take effect?

As of September 2003, the pilot sites began using the Benefit Design Program and

the Children & Adolescent TRAG. The program is scheduled to go statewide in

fiscal year 2005.

The four pilot sites selected are:

• Hill County Community MHMR Services

• Lubbock Regional MHMR Center

• MHMR of Tarrant County

• Texas Panhandle MHMR

Who can I contact about this project, and how?

Visit the web page at:

http://www.mhmr.state.tx.us/CentralOffice/

BehavioralHealthServices/BenefitDesign.html

OR mail questions to:

Texas Dept. of MHMR

Benefit Design Workgroup

P.O. Box 12668

Austin, TX 78711-2668

To receive information on training’s’ about Benefit Design, to inquire about

other training topics or for information on a Federation of Families chapter in

your area contact:

Texas Federation of Families for Children’s Mental Health

7701 North Lamar, Suite 505

Austin, Texas 78752-1025

(512) 407-8844 phone

(512) 407-8266 fax

(866) 893-3264 toll free

info@...

http://www.txffcmh.org

Local TFFCMH Chapter

South Plains contact:

Tonya Hettler, TXFFCMH Trainer

Email: spff@...

This publication is a project of the Texas Federation of Families for

Children’s Mental Health in collaboration with the Texas Department of Mental

Health and Mental Retardation.

Revised: 11/21/2003

Testing Questions

I am a parent of a 12 year old boy with autism. Our school district

has just completed his latest 3 year evaluations and we are going to

ARD next week. Previously his labels for receiving services was

autism, learning disabled. They want to change this based on their

results to autism, mental retardation. This is based on his scores

for the IQ tests they administered.

One of the reason they told me that this should be done now is that

the mental retardation label will make him eligible for more service

in the community (like MHMR services) when he is older. I am

somewhat distrusting of the ISD and want to be sure of what this

label will mean for him as far as what services they have to provide

and what will be

available to him long term. I disagree with the label for a variety

of reasons but want to understand the pros/cons on it as it pertains

to services and support both from the ISD now and the community long

term.

I am trying to find some resources or another parent who can give me

some advice on this.

Also would like to email with any parents who would be willing to

share their experiences of having an older child with autism and the

changes as they approach middle and high school.

Unlocking Autism

www.UnlockingAutism.org

Autism-Awareness-Action

Worldwide internet group for parents who have a

child with AUTISM.

SeekingJoyinDisability - Prayer support for those touched by Disability:

SeekingJoyinDisability/

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Just an FYI:

I forwarded the testing question to a friend of mine whose son was

dx'd as MR. I knew she was on the CLASS waiting list. Below is what

she wrote back.

Lori

********************************************************************

It says the MR is not a qualifying condition ~ meaning alone it

doesn't

qualify. It also says that if MR is the primary dx then you should

contact

MHMR for services. Mitch's primary dx is autism, secondary is severe

speech

delay and third is MR and they accepted him onto the waiting list.

Helen

*********************************************************************

JoAnn

A diagnosis of MR will make your child ineligible for any services

from

the CLASS program which is a Medicade waiver program. It is best to

just keep the autism diagnosis to receive the most services. He can

still get services through MHMR with the diagnosis of autism. I would

not put the MR label on him.

in Austin

Testing Questions

I am a parent of a 12 year old boy with autism. Our school district

has just completed his latest 3 year evaluations and we are going to

ARD next week. Previously his labels for receiving services was

autism, learning disabled. They want to change this based on their

results to autism, mental retardation. This is based on his scores

for the IQ tests they administered.

One of the reason they told me that this should be done now is that

the mental retardation label will make him eligible for more service

in the community (like MHMR services) when he is older. I am

somewhat distrusting of the ISD and want to be sure of what this

label will mean for him as far as what services they have to provide

and what will be

available to him long term. I disagree with the label for a variety

of reasons but want to understand the pros/cons on it as it pertains

to services and support both from the ISD now and the community long

term.

I am trying to find some resources or another parent who can give me

some advice on this.

Also would like to email with any parents who would be willing to

share their experiences of having an older child with autism and the

changes as they approach middle and high school.

Unlocking Autism

www.UnlockingAutism.org

Autism-Awareness-Action

Worldwide internet group for parents who have a

child with AUTISM.

SeekingJoyinDisability - Prayer support for those touched by

Disability:

SeekingJoyinDisability/

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Just an FYI:

I forwarded the testing question to a friend of mine whose son was

dx'd as MR. I knew she was on the CLASS waiting list. Below is what

she wrote back.

Lori

********************************************************************

It says the MR is not a qualifying condition ~ meaning alone it

doesn't

qualify. It also says that if MR is the primary dx then you should

contact

MHMR for services. Mitch's primary dx is autism, secondary is severe

speech

delay and third is MR and they accepted him onto the waiting list.

Helen

*********************************************************************

JoAnn

A diagnosis of MR will make your child ineligible for any services

from

the CLASS program which is a Medicade waiver program. It is best to

just keep the autism diagnosis to receive the most services. He can

still get services through MHMR with the diagnosis of autism. I would

not put the MR label on him.

in Austin

Testing Questions

I am a parent of a 12 year old boy with autism. Our school district

has just completed his latest 3 year evaluations and we are going to

ARD next week. Previously his labels for receiving services was

autism, learning disabled. They want to change this based on their

results to autism, mental retardation. This is based on his scores

for the IQ tests they administered.

One of the reason they told me that this should be done now is that

the mental retardation label will make him eligible for more service

in the community (like MHMR services) when he is older. I am

somewhat distrusting of the ISD and want to be sure of what this

label will mean for him as far as what services they have to provide

and what will be

available to him long term. I disagree with the label for a variety

of reasons but want to understand the pros/cons on it as it pertains

to services and support both from the ISD now and the community long

term.

I am trying to find some resources or another parent who can give me

some advice on this.

Also would like to email with any parents who would be willing to

share their experiences of having an older child with autism and the

changes as they approach middle and high school.

Unlocking Autism

www.UnlockingAutism.org

Autism-Awareness-Action

Worldwide internet group for parents who have a

child with AUTISM.

SeekingJoyinDisability - Prayer support for those touched by

Disability:

SeekingJoyinDisability/

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Hey Everyone,

Im a bit confused on how to go about testing for Candida. There is the saliva

test (is this effective)? Blood tests, urine tests and stool tests. Is one

better than the other?

I talked to a naturopath who through bloods tests for antigen and antibodies

IgGg/ IgM/IgA. Is this sufficient?

Will this just detect if its in your blood but not necessarily if its in an

organ or 2?

Last can anyone recommend a good place to order a home test kit? Some people are

using testing, but what kits are good? Has anyone heard of Candia5? It

only tests for IgGg, is this only for women? Will it suffice as a candida test?

Ben

My email is ben_roche1@...

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> Hey Everyone,

> Im a bit confused on how to go about testing for Candida. There is the saliva

test (is this effective)? Blood tests, urine tests and stool tests. Is one

better than the other? [snip]

*** Welcome, Ben.

Read in this article about how to determine if you have candida:

<http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro2.php#s14>

Hope that helps...

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I have taken a few online tests but I have Cancer so allot of those symptoms are

a result of my disease. I think I need a more accurate test. A naturopath I am

close with said when testing for Candida the best approach is checking your

IgGg/ IgM/IgA. Some say that just the IgGg is good enough.

I want to know what is better to get these results from, blood, urine or stool?

Or does it matter?

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> I have taken a few online tests but I have Cancer so allot of those symptoms

are a result of my disease. think I need a more accurate test. [snip]

*** Ben - I'm merely a moderator trying to assist you until Bee returns in the

morning, but I'm sure she would say that if you have cancer, you definitely have

candida and following her pgm would most definitely help you to heal.

*** Have you read the articles sent to you upon joining?

You can also use Bee's search engine on her web site and find articles on cancer

and the candida connection. Here is one, for instance:

<http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/cancer6.php>

I hope you'll spend some time reading those articles as you await Bee's return

in the morning. Perhaps you will find them helpful.

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>

> Hey Everyone,

> Im a bit confused on how to go about testing for Candida. There is the saliva

test (is this effective)? Blood tests, urine tests and stool tests. Is one

better than the other?

>

> I talked to a naturopath who through bloods tests for antigen and antibodies

IgGg/ IgM/IgA. Is this sufficient?

>

> Will this just detect if its in your blood but not necessarily if its in an

organ or 2?

>

> Last can anyone recommend a good place to order a home test kit? Some people

are using testing, but what kits are good? Has anyone heard of Candia5? It

only tests for IgGg, is this only for women? Will it suffice as a candida test?

>

+++Hi Ben,

No laboratory test can be conclusive for candida as explained in this article:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro3.php

Candida and cancer are both a fungus created by the body itself in its effort to

maintain its health. Both are the result of poor health caused by the Five

Primary Causes of ALL Failing Health:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/health2.php

1. Lack of the correct combination of nutrients that all humans need in order to

be healthy.

2. Lack of oxygen at a cellular level.

3. Accumulation of toxins, poisons, and waste because of an inability of the

body to detoxify like it should.

4. Lowered vitality (energy) due to stress, shock, injury, emotional upsets,

losses, relationship or financial worries, being unhealthy, etc.

5. Poor " Nutritional Status " acquired from parents upon conception.

If a person does not handle their candida, the next stage is cancer.

This program has proved to be an overall healing program that improves anyone's

health, not just candida as witnessed by many members of this group in these 200

Success Stories:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/success/index.php

Candida and cancer cannot be cured by " killing them off " or by " trying to get

rid of them. " It just doesn't work that way. They can only be cured by getting

healthy, which is done by:

1) Consuming " proper nutrients " (Bee's diet plus supplements which provides all

of the nutrients any Human needs in order to be healthy).

2) Eliminating toxins and foods that feed candida (they also feed bacteria and

cancer).

3) Eliminating damaging foods.

4) Eliminating toxins in general.

When you are healthy enough your body automatically " changes " candida (or any

bug, cancer, etc.) back into the organism it is supposed to be when the body is

healthy.

It's like the manure pile and the flies, with the manure pile representing the

poor condition of the body. You cannot get rid of the manure pile by killing

off the flies. You must clean up the manure pile instead, which means getting

healthy according to Nature's Laws on Health.

So please read two important articles so you understand what you need to do and

why:

How to Successfully Overcome Candida:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro2.php

Curing Candida, How to Get Started:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro1.php

The best in health, Bee

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> I have taken a few online tests but I have Cancer so allot of those symptoms

are a result of my disease. I think I need a more accurate test. A naturopath I

am close with said when testing for Candida the best approach is checking your

IgGg/ IgM/IgA. Some say that just the IgGg is good enough.

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> I want to know what is better to get these results from, blood, urine or

stool? Or does it matter?

+++Hi Ben,

What kind of cancer do you have?

Since you have been diagnosed with cancer your body has already gone through the

candida/yeast stage while your health was going downhill.

Healing naturally with diet and supplements takes time so I will not give you

any false hopes that just doing this program will turn your health around at

this stage.

Of course this program will improve your health, but you need to get intravenous

vitamin C treatments right away. The formula and instructions are provided by

Orthomolecular Associations or Physicians, so find one in your area at this

link:

http://www.orthomolecular.org/resources/pract.shtml

At the same time you can start on this program, but do not change over to it too

fast. Ensure you follow instructions in Curing Candida, How to Get Started:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro1.php

The best in health, Bee

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