Re: I need info

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Hi Bev!

I would be taking super tonic at least twice a day for beginners. Take an immune booster for a week.. like echinacea or astralagus..

Also, either of the below formulas from Dr. & Schulze.

TOTAL MOUTH FORMULAThis formula increases the circulation to the teeth and gums. If used regularly it will rebuild tooth bone loss, tighten teeth, tighten gums and stop bleeding gums due to plaque build up and gingivitis. This formula is anti-bacterial and anti-fungal and will destroy oral infections on contact.10 oz. or 300 ml Echinecea Tincture2 oz or 60 ml Tea Tree oil4 oz. or 120 ml. Bayberry Tincture2 oz. or 60 ml. Oak Gall or 3X ( triple strength) Oak Bark Tincture 1 oz. or 30 ml. Cayenne Tincture2 1/2 dropperfuls or approx. 7.5 ml. Peppermint oil 2 1/2 dropperfuls or approx 7.5 ml. Clove oil. (Droppers vary and range anywhere from 400 - 600 drops per 30 ml. or 1 oz.)(That is between 13 and 20 drops per ml depending on dropper size)Here is the above formula worked out in 1/10 amount: If you want to makea smaller amount.30 ml. or 1 oz. Echinecea Tincture6 ml. or 1/5 oz. Tea

Tree oil12 ml or about 1/3 oz. Bayberry tincture6 ml. or 1/5 oz. 3x Oak bark Tincture3 ml or 1/10 oz. Cayenne tincture10 - 15 drops of Peppermint oil10 - 15 drops of Clove oilOR

Herbal Tooth Powder:

6 parts Comfrey Root (Symphytum officinale)

3 parts Oak bark (Quercus alba)

3 parts Horsetail grass (Equisetum hyemale)

3 parts Peppermint (Mentha piperita)

1 part Lobelia (Lobelia inflata)

1 part Cloves (Syzygium aromaticum)

Powder all herbs and mix really well. Store in an air-tight container.

This herbal food combination is used to help strengthen the gums (bleeding

and pyorrhea-type infections of the gums), and assist in tightening loose

teeth. This type of tooth powder will brighten booth luster and make for a healthier mouth. For severe cases place this powder combination between

the lips and gums (upper and lower) around entire tooth area and leave on all night, six nights a week (as well as brushing regularly) until improvement

is evident. Then continue on with regular brushing with this herbal food combination.

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My dh has 3 impacted wisdom teeth and will be having them pulled nov. 8th, but has a infection in one of them. What herbs, teas, or mouth rinses could he take to get rid of the infection

Suzi

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How about using the Tonic as a mouth rinse? I've done that at times when I feel I have a gum infection. Seems to knock it out.

Peace, love, laughter

Suzanne <suziesgoats@...> wrote:

Hi Bev!

I would be taking super tonic at least twice a day for beginners. Take an immune booster for a week.. like echinacea or astralagus..

Also, either of the below formulas from Dr. & Schulze.

TOTAL MOUTH FORMULA

for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.

[Guest guest]

Only if he has had specific training and interest in speech disorders. Otherwise

most pediatric neurologists know nothing about speech disorders that are not

part of a more complex genetic syndrome for example, and even there, they just

know it's part of the package and not much else.  This has been our experience

and we've heard many MANY similar stories from other parents.  We've also heard

about great developmental neurologists who appropriately treat with diet and

supplements for metabolic disorders that impact neurological functioning etc.

but these specialists are unfortunately NOT found at every hospital or practice

and are RARE indeed.

Most pediatric neurologists  just don't know speech, and even regular pediatric

doctors, as in developmental pediatricians do not know that much unless they

have a family memeber or smomehow really are into speech issues. They can be

educated but be prepared and armed with books articles etc,. as some are

resistent and it's quite a struggle to get them to consider a pure speech

diagnosis and will most likely go in directions you may or may not expect them

to go depending on what other symptoms your child presents with. For exapmle in

our case the neurologist really had his autistic spectrum lens on and everything

I was telling him about her behavior, thinking it would show she was not MR and

age appropriate or beyond cognitively, he was interpreting as an autistic ritual

feature, never mind that she had only done it once. In the end he admitted she

didn't really for the autistic criteria but because of the speech and social

difficulties that come with

severe speech disorders, he was willing to overlook the fact that she was very

responsive emotionally and affectionate and NOT really into her own world as ASD

describes kids to be and was suggesting the infamous PDD NOS diagnosis, which

actually hurts in many cases for both school and insurance purposes because it

detracts form the motor planning disorder and it really does nothing to improve

treatment. Plus in my view her behavioral issues were clearly the direct result

of her speech difficulties and not something else, but those who do not know

speech disorders, apraxia in particular will often jump to the wrong conclusion

based on very superficial observations.  And for an apraxic kid this can

unfortunately derail the motor planning treatment and bring in behavioral

approaches that may actually do harm.

So pretty much SLPs are the ones who diagnose apraxia usually, though NOT all

SPLPs either, just the ones who know it and treat it on a regualr basis. They

are NOT MDs so their diagnosis needs to be certified by an MD, but finding an MD

who knows apraxia is not always easy, you're lucky if you find one willing to

listen and just take the SLPs word for it without putting up a struggle and

going through the autistic spectrum and others before accepting that it could be

just speech.

I may seem too negative on this, after all many of our children have multiple

neurological issues but in my experience the pediatric neurologist was the

biggest waste of time and after an hour of listening to me talk and not even

examining her because she refused to have anything to do with this stranger who

had NO TOYS in his office, he declared he had nothing to add to the diagnosis of

apraxia made by the SLP and (finally accepted by her pediatrician) unless we got

an MRI which would allow him to see more, but not for sure.

 Most apraxic kids show a normal MRI, especially if only speech seems to be the

problem and no other genetic issues are suspected which was not our case.  Also

I asked him if the MRI would impact the speech treatment and he said NO, the

speech treatment is the speech treatment and if he found anything on the MRI,

anything unsuspected or that could trigger other problems at some point that

would be a separate thing, separate from the speech treatment which was pretty

much the only issue we were concerned about at the time. Bottom lime, no real

reason to sedate her since no other issues were suspected and for just apraxia

the MRI would not show enough to clarify anything or impact treatment.

Out of curiosity I ordered a book about the pediatric neurological exam, and

they have a thick chapter on vision, another on hearing, all senses have a

chapter pretty much, but the speech is the thinnest chapter with no mention of

oral/motor planning disorders, just very general stuff and virtually NOTHING

about treatment. The reality is this motor planning stuff is still too new and

not part of their training. etc  They know apraxia in adults as the result of an

internal or external injury top the brain, but even there, they can see it on

MRI but can't really impact treatment.  If you suspect your child may have

additional neurological issues then a neurologist is worth consulting to rule

out or clarify, but don't expect the speech per se to be clarified if you don't

go to a specially trained pediatric neurologist.

So ask around to see what specialist in your area knows apraxia and can add a

little to the diagnosis for insurance/school district purposes.  Failing that

any pediatrician should confirm a diagnosis made by the SLP, an SLP who knows

apraxia. and you don't need to pay for a specialist unless they have something

to

contribute and you know that in advance from their reputation or

training. At an early age it's a probable diagnosis they work with anyway which

gets confirmed later as treatment progresses or changes. Regardless, if a child

presents with apraxic features, motor planning treatment should be implemented

as long as the motor planning symptoms are present. Diagnosis change, get more

complex or get erased ans the child develops and additional issues may become

apparent or may disappear which is what we all hope for.

Good luck!

-Elena--mom to Ziana--almost 4 now, still severely apraxic, but otherwise a

happy healthy child and making steady progress now that appropriate speech

therapy/diet/supplements have been implemented.

From: bernice.barbosa <bernice.barbosa@...>

Subject: [ ] I need Info

Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 4:49 PM

My sons speech therapist that hes been working with thinks my son may

have apraxia, Do you think If I were to take him to a neurologist

they'll be able to diagnose him?

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