PTSD

January 29, 2005

But then again the existence of DNA is only based on theory. We do not know

for sure.. The concept of DNA is called the Central Dogma of Biology. But

then again that is like stating that Darwin's theory is only a theory. I

don't feel that psychiatry should be messing with my genes or trying to

interpret them anymore than my tea leaves! Psychiatrists view the mind and

don't take into consideration the whole body. I do not trust them. I will

trust an oncologist with my p53 gene. Even though cancer is said to be a DNA

mutation within the cells they still do not know how to modify that DNA in

order to fix it. I am not sure why the psychiatric field thinks they can

corner this market!

If mental illness is completely genetic, not just genetically influenced,

then they should be able to truly come up with a test like they do for

cystic fibrosis. It should be definitive. However the psychiatric industry

is so ready to shove pharmaceuticals down our throat that they are putting

the cart before the horse before the cart is even built.

What would they do if they did have a screening tool that worked? A whole

bunch of people wouldn't need to take the medicines that they have been

given.. Imagine the doctors finally saying we were wrong. there is nothing

physiologically wrong with you and send you to psychotherapy and tell you to

get over yourself!

Stella

Re: Re: PTSD

True, it appears to make sense, and it may. But it has not been proven

yet while the concept most 21st century people has is that it is a fact.

I could very well be wrong in the long run, but all the studies I have

seen tell me that the field of genetic psychiatry is grasping at straws

so far, so for them to announce learnedly that it's all genetic is lying.

And most of the psychiatirc press you can find some reference to genes,

it kills any pretense of hard science, it's a theory at best and certainly

does not

account for what makes us human. Psychology has done that for years,

it's almost fadish the trends in pyschology.

I personally would examine the social patterns, diet and environment

before I would pounce on the gene thing. If you look at it, it really is a

seductive idea, but where does it take us? Nazi Germany and Fascism

were big proponents of this genetic line idea, to the extreme, I say

judge people on their merits and keep the theories where they belong,

don't parade them around as fact. If people never took responsibility

for their actions then became depressed because they lost their fortunes

or whatever, is that genetic, or something that is their responsibility to

figure

out what happended and try again. Just an example. Most people getting

this label have just lost a spouse or family member, that's normal, it's

normal

to be sad. It's weird to be gorked out on meds and not really feeling the

real

pain to me, how do you grow, how do you learn? That's my pain and I want

it, I want to confront it and overcome it. I don't judge anyone their

solutions.

I can never know what pain people experience so how can I judge them?

To me hanging around your family can lead you to act like them way more than

the genetic code they gave you. There is something to it, but it isn't the

whole

picture, otherwise everyone with mental illness is doomed to take the drugs

that are promoted and so are their children. I don't think so.

I know that completely bonkers people, left alone, snap out of it and go on

like nothing

happened. Takes years, but they were not drugged or restrained or put in

seclusion.

People labeled schizophrenic and treated in western psych hospitals

never really get back to themselves, very very few.

I can't say genetic predisposition is a fact, it's just not a fact yet and

considering that

the people promoting that idea are fudging about so much else why believe

them?

It's kind of hard to discredit genetic prediposition considering there

are things we do know are gene controlled. And I see nothing else to

explain family tendencies towards certain temperament and personality.

" She's just like her mother " and " The acorn doesn't fall far from the

tree " type sayings have been around far longer than modern psychology.

If there can be a genetic predisposition to body type, why not

personality -- which use to cover much of what the psychiatrists have

convinced us are " disorders " .

> > > In a message dated 1/28/05 8:44:19 PM Mountain Standard Time,

> > > SSRI medications writes:

> > >

> > > > His grandfather has/had (we don't know him) severe PTSD from the

> > > > Korean War. We believe our son has a genetic predisposition to

> PTSD.

> > > > http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2002-09/mp-iot091702.php

> > > >

> > > HAHAHA! It never occurred to me that it was a typo! Please don't

> buy

> > > into

> > > the genetic predisposition for PTSD. If YOU went through the

> Korean War,

> > or

> > > the Vietnam War, or WWII, or taken Paxil, or Prozac, or any drug

> that

> > messed

> > > with your mind, you'd have PTSD, too!! I have PTSD (my official

> > > disability

> > dx)

> > > from taking Paxil. There is NOBODY in my family with PTSD, but if

> someone

> > is

> > > traumatized severely enough, they will develop this disorder,

> genetic

> > influence

> > > or not. A few years ago all diseases were caused by bacteria.

> That

> > > proved

> > > to be wrong. Now they want to prove that all diseases are

> genetically

> > based.

> > > They will be proven wrong on that too. The only NORMAL reaction

> to

> > having

> > > your mind scrambled and being tossed into an abyss of pure and

> utter hell

> > would

> > > be to develop PTSD. Ir really has nothing at all to do with

> > > predisposition.

> > >

> > > " Blind Reason "

> > > a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue

> > > Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's

> > > Unsafe At Any Dose

> > >

January 29, 2005