PTSD

January 30, 2006

It has been 40 years for me and I still have

flashbacks and nitemares. Thanks to a fruitcake

psychiatrist, who use to walk down the hallway beating

on his chest, saying " drink milk, drink juice. The APA

should get the garbage out of their organization and

so should the AMA.

john

--- glitterari@... wrote:

>

> In a message dated 1/30/2006 5:24:12 AM Pacific

> Standard Time,

> SSRI medications writes:

>

> Lucky for me all psychs give me PTSD,

> even being near them makes me sick.

>

> If I had been diagnosed with PTSD it would have

> given psych

> grounds to incarcerate , and drug me again.

>

> I have PTSD from taking Paxil and then being locked

> up in a nutbin after the

> drug made me psychotic and suicidal. I will never

> get over the experience

> of being in a place with people pissing and pooping

> in their pants, drooling,

> and twirling nonstop from the drugs. It's 8 years

> later and I still have

> nightmares about that place, and now as a result I

> am terrified of doctors and

> anything to do with the medical cabal. So I know

> where you are coming from,

> and I am sorry you have been a vicitm of their

> concentration camp-like medical

> experiments.

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

January 30, 2006

It has been 40 years for me and I still have

flashbacks and nitemares. Thanks to a fruitcake

psychiatrist, who use to walk down the hallway beating

on his chest, saying " drink milk, drink juice. The APA

should get the garbage out of their organization and

so should the AMA.

john

--- glitterari@... wrote:

>

> In a message dated 1/30/2006 5:24:12 AM Pacific

> Standard Time,

> SSRI medications writes:

>

> Lucky for me all psychs give me PTSD,

> even being near them makes me sick.

>

> If I had been diagnosed with PTSD it would have

> given psych

> grounds to incarcerate , and drug me again.

>

> I have PTSD from taking Paxil and then being locked

> up in a nutbin after the

> drug made me psychotic and suicidal. I will never

> get over the experience

> of being in a place with people pissing and pooping

> in their pants, drooling,

> and twirling nonstop from the drugs. It's 8 years

> later and I still have

> nightmares about that place, and now as a result I

> am terrified of doctors and

> anything to do with the medical cabal. So I know

> where you are coming from,

> and I am sorry you have been a vicitm of their

> concentration camp-like medical

> experiments.

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

January 30, 2006

I don't have many nightmares or dreams , since quitting ssris and the rest of

the

viruses/diseases in pill form. They were constant for 27 years of taking them

though.

Nobody is more sorry than I am, for being a part of the ugly mess.

I am glad though , I learned how to finally deal with them , and know in some

ways , how and what

it is they do to control us.

Even after getting away from them , on anti sites, they were still trying

to get me to go Get Professional Help.

Learning how to lie to psych , is a difficult task.

The ability to double speak , double speak, and act like its not happening

while the person is making you sick, is difficult if not impossible .

Someone says well they are just dumb, someone else says, no way these

are smart psychs.

Then the ones who believe they help others, are so many.

You realize, the worst trouble of getting through to the public, are

those who believe psych is helping them , when it is hurting them terrible.

Its the neutral of truth.

The dox are a god send to the nuroleptic users, who are in terrible

T/D and change their meds to ssris.

Then the chemical blackmail .

God doc please , don't put me back on nuroleptic , I want something a little

less hurting.

Problem is , the courts require the nuroleptic, and don't give a dam

about the ssris in many cases.

They want the corrections . Halal is a corrector, same as the other

nuroleptics.

Anti depressants, or ssris, or maos, are happy pills compared.

So what happens is , the dox are worshiped for being miracle workers

away from the correctors .

When you feel as though psych has buried you alive from nurotoxins, or half

your system

is burning , while the other half is freezing, and the shaking is so bad,

ssris are a very welcome

feeling of good , compared.

Later on though we all know the cost, so the psychs must continue to pull

the switcharoo.

They are playing us as suckers , with allergic Parkinson's adverse reactions.

The psychs are toying with us , nothing more.

Playing a human game of experimentation, and power using

pills like cheese for rats.

Addiction is their hook, comeon , the first ones free.

Like the $100.00 dollar bottle of a 30 days supply of lipator.

They hook you with the sample packs, then later , you are spending

at least $1200.00 bucks a year.

Whats needed to deal with that ?

Another expensive addiction or possible surgery.

How much can you spend per month?

I could have made thousands of dollars selling the ssris I threw away

on the illegal black market .

I'm glad I didn't get anybody else hooked to them.

If I took a nuroleptic , and it didn't cause me T/D

no matter how much I took, and if ssris caused me

terrible T/D the dox would never use nuroleptic on me

because T/D is the disciplinary action.

Ive seen it done too.

A person isn't affected by nuroleptic so they change it so they are

sick.

You know , your experience in lock up , was done purposely

to install fear in you.

The courts love that.

Its a better correction than prison.

I was given valproic acid for stroke. the pain in my right brain was

incredible, I begged the doc to give me something else.

The med was increased.

If I had said, " It makes me feel good, I would like more "

the doc would have decreased the dose, or put me on something else.

That's why they say, never tell the dox insulin makes you feel good, the

DEA will not allow any injections to make anyone feel good.

We must say , the insulin makes us feel normal.

Psychs chemically torment for corrections.

That is their job.

The nightmares are an added attraction, they all love to hear you have .

That way they get the " job well done " by the judges, same as the

goons who beat us to death.

The judge places the order, the dox execute that order by telling

the goons to work us over.

" You will correct on the meds, or we will give you shock, or lobotomy.

If you still do not correct, we will keep you here for life, or just kill you ,

so you aren't a burden on your family.

You have hurt their feelings enough. "

I'm sure this is just one of the many sayings, the dox give us from their

office while on the back wards of living hell.

Hey, these are doctors, how can we say this about them.

These are medicines , they are good , a boon to man kind.

Ja right.

Get in the box now please, we don't want to hurt you.

You are going to be put to sleep now.

Well you know you need it, now.

GET IN THAT BOX, OR WE WILL RIP YOU APART.

You know you need to go ...... you are sick...........

You say NO !!!

OK have it your way, we will hit you again and again and again

until you say yes , then when you say yes, you will be hit over and over

again and again, just in case.

For the good of society and all concerned.

Its your fault now

GET IN THAT BOX.

Yes its quite a living nightmare.

Nightmares in sleep , are relief from hell in life.

The dox know this too, so we are put on edge from meds that wont

allow our rem sleep.

____ knows why so many commit suicide so very much.

Peace to all of them, free from the living hell given by the

courts, the dox and their support system.

It isnt a sin to be weak in that system, being strong only attracts

more abuse from psych, just to see how much we can stand, before

we break.

Where to break after that is a good question????

snicker

Nobody knows but us too.

Mental emotional and physical scars only an insane

psych would poke prod and rip apart to see

what we would do .

One word that scares them more than anything else .

RAPE.

glitterari@... wrote:

In a message dated 1/30/2006 5:24:12 AM Pacific Standard Time,

SSRI medications writes:

Lucky for me all psychs give me PTSD,

even being near them makes me sick.

If I had been diagnosed with PTSD it would have given psych

grounds to incarcerate , and drug me again.

I have PTSD from taking Paxil and then being locked up in a nutbin after the

drug made me psychotic and suicidal. I will never get over the experience

of being in a place with people pissing and pooping in their pants, drooling,

and twirling nonstop from the drugs. It's 8 years later and I still have

nightmares about that place, and now as a result I am terrified of doctors and

anything to do with the medical cabal. So I know where you are coming from,

and I am sorry you have been a vicitm of their concentration camp-like medical

experiments.

January 30, 2006

I don't have many nightmares or dreams , since quitting ssris and the rest of

the

viruses/diseases in pill form. They were constant for 27 years of taking them

though.

Nobody is more sorry than I am, for being a part of the ugly mess.

I am glad though , I learned how to finally deal with them , and know in some

ways , how and what

it is they do to control us.

Even after getting away from them , on anti sites, they were still trying

to get me to go Get Professional Help.

Learning how to lie to psych , is a difficult task.

The ability to double speak , double speak, and act like its not happening

while the person is making you sick, is difficult if not impossible .

Someone says well they are just dumb, someone else says, no way these

are smart psychs.

Then the ones who believe they help others, are so many.

You realize, the worst trouble of getting through to the public, are

those who believe psych is helping them , when it is hurting them terrible.

Its the neutral of truth.

The dox are a god send to the nuroleptic users, who are in terrible

T/D and change their meds to ssris.

Then the chemical blackmail .

God doc please , don't put me back on nuroleptic , I want something a little

less hurting.

Problem is , the courts require the nuroleptic, and don't give a dam

about the ssris in many cases.

They want the corrections . Halal is a corrector, same as the other

nuroleptics.

Anti depressants, or ssris, or maos, are happy pills compared.

So what happens is , the dox are worshiped for being miracle workers

away from the correctors .

When you feel as though psych has buried you alive from nurotoxins, or half

your system

is burning , while the other half is freezing, and the shaking is so bad,

ssris are a very welcome

feeling of good , compared.

Later on though we all know the cost, so the psychs must continue to pull

the switcharoo.

They are playing us as suckers , with allergic Parkinson's adverse reactions.

The psychs are toying with us , nothing more.

Playing a human game of experimentation, and power using

pills like cheese for rats.

Addiction is their hook, comeon , the first ones free.

Like the $100.00 dollar bottle of a 30 days supply of lipator.

They hook you with the sample packs, then later , you are spending

at least $1200.00 bucks a year.

Whats needed to deal with that ?

Another expensive addiction or possible surgery.

How much can you spend per month?

I could have made thousands of dollars selling the ssris I threw away

on the illegal black market .

I'm glad I didn't get anybody else hooked to them.

If I took a nuroleptic , and it didn't cause me T/D

no matter how much I took, and if ssris caused me

terrible T/D the dox would never use nuroleptic on me

because T/D is the disciplinary action.

Ive seen it done too.

A person isn't affected by nuroleptic so they change it so they are

sick.

You know , your experience in lock up , was done purposely

to install fear in you.

The courts love that.

Its a better correction than prison.

I was given valproic acid for stroke. the pain in my right brain was

incredible, I begged the doc to give me something else.

The med was increased.

If I had said, " It makes me feel good, I would like more "

the doc would have decreased the dose, or put me on something else.

That's why they say, never tell the dox insulin makes you feel good, the

DEA will not allow any injections to make anyone feel good.

We must say , the insulin makes us feel normal.

Psychs chemically torment for corrections.

That is their job.

The nightmares are an added attraction, they all love to hear you have .

That way they get the " job well done " by the judges, same as the

goons who beat us to death.

The judge places the order, the dox execute that order by telling

the goons to work us over.

" You will correct on the meds, or we will give you shock, or lobotomy.

If you still do not correct, we will keep you here for life, or just kill you ,

so you aren't a burden on your family.

You have hurt their feelings enough. "

I'm sure this is just one of the many sayings, the dox give us from their

office while on the back wards of living hell.

Hey, these are doctors, how can we say this about them.

These are medicines , they are good , a boon to man kind.

Ja right.

Get in the box now please, we don't want to hurt you.

You are going to be put to sleep now.

Well you know you need it, now.

GET IN THAT BOX, OR WE WILL RIP YOU APART.

You know you need to go ...... you are sick...........

You say NO !!!

OK have it your way, we will hit you again and again and again

until you say yes , then when you say yes, you will be hit over and over

again and again, just in case.

For the good of society and all concerned.

Its your fault now

GET IN THAT BOX.

Yes its quite a living nightmare.

Nightmares in sleep , are relief from hell in life.

The dox know this too, so we are put on edge from meds that wont

allow our rem sleep.

____ knows why so many commit suicide so very much.

Peace to all of them, free from the living hell given by the

courts, the dox and their support system.

It isnt a sin to be weak in that system, being strong only attracts

more abuse from psych, just to see how much we can stand, before

we break.

Where to break after that is a good question????

snicker

Nobody knows but us too.

Mental emotional and physical scars only an insane

psych would poke prod and rip apart to see

what we would do .

One word that scares them more than anything else .

RAPE.

glitterari@... wrote:

In a message dated 1/30/2006 5:24:12 AM Pacific Standard Time,

SSRI medications writes:

Lucky for me all psychs give me PTSD,

even being near them makes me sick.

If I had been diagnosed with PTSD it would have given psych

grounds to incarcerate , and drug me again.

I have PTSD from taking Paxil and then being locked up in a nutbin after the

drug made me psychotic and suicidal. I will never get over the experience

of being in a place with people pissing and pooping in their pants, drooling,

and twirling nonstop from the drugs. It's 8 years later and I still have

nightmares about that place, and now as a result I am terrified of doctors and

anything to do with the medical cabal. So I know where you are coming from,

and I am sorry you have been a vicitm of their concentration camp-like medical

experiments.

January 30, 2006

I don't have many nightmares or dreams , since quitting ssris and the rest of

the

viruses/diseases in pill form. They were constant for 27 years of taking them

though.

Nobody is more sorry than I am, for being a part of the ugly mess.

I am glad though , I learned how to finally deal with them , and know in some

ways , how and what

it is they do to control us.

Even after getting away from them , on anti sites, they were still trying

to get me to go Get Professional Help.

Learning how to lie to psych , is a difficult task.

The ability to double speak , double speak, and act like its not happening

while the person is making you sick, is difficult if not impossible .

Someone says well they are just dumb, someone else says, no way these

are smart psychs.

Then the ones who believe they help others, are so many.

You realize, the worst trouble of getting through to the public, are

those who believe psych is helping them , when it is hurting them terrible.

Its the neutral of truth.

The dox are a god send to the nuroleptic users, who are in terrible

T/D and change their meds to ssris.

Then the chemical blackmail .

God doc please , don't put me back on nuroleptic , I want something a little

less hurting.

Problem is , the courts require the nuroleptic, and don't give a dam

about the ssris in many cases.

They want the corrections . Halal is a corrector, same as the other

nuroleptics.

Anti depressants, or ssris, or maos, are happy pills compared.

So what happens is , the dox are worshiped for being miracle workers

away from the correctors .

When you feel as though psych has buried you alive from nurotoxins, or half

your system

is burning , while the other half is freezing, and the shaking is so bad,

ssris are a very welcome

feeling of good , compared.

Later on though we all know the cost, so the psychs must continue to pull

the switcharoo.

They are playing us as suckers , with allergic Parkinson's adverse reactions.

The psychs are toying with us , nothing more.

Playing a human game of experimentation, and power using

pills like cheese for rats.

Addiction is their hook, comeon , the first ones free.

Like the $100.00 dollar bottle of a 30 days supply of lipator.

They hook you with the sample packs, then later , you are spending

at least $1200.00 bucks a year.

Whats needed to deal with that ?

Another expensive addiction or possible surgery.

How much can you spend per month?

I could have made thousands of dollars selling the ssris I threw away

on the illegal black market .

I'm glad I didn't get anybody else hooked to them.

If I took a nuroleptic , and it didn't cause me T/D

no matter how much I took, and if ssris caused me

terrible T/D the dox would never use nuroleptic on me

because T/D is the disciplinary action.

Ive seen it done too.

A person isn't affected by nuroleptic so they change it so they are

sick.

You know , your experience in lock up , was done purposely

to install fear in you.

The courts love that.

Its a better correction than prison.

I was given valproic acid for stroke. the pain in my right brain was

incredible, I begged the doc to give me something else.

The med was increased.

If I had said, " It makes me feel good, I would like more "

the doc would have decreased the dose, or put me on something else.

That's why they say, never tell the dox insulin makes you feel good, the

DEA will not allow any injections to make anyone feel good.

We must say , the insulin makes us feel normal.

Psychs chemically torment for corrections.

That is their job.

The nightmares are an added attraction, they all love to hear you have .

That way they get the " job well done " by the judges, same as the

goons who beat us to death.

The judge places the order, the dox execute that order by telling

the goons to work us over.

" You will correct on the meds, or we will give you shock, or lobotomy.

If you still do not correct, we will keep you here for life, or just kill you ,

so you aren't a burden on your family.

You have hurt their feelings enough. "

I'm sure this is just one of the many sayings, the dox give us from their

office while on the back wards of living hell.

Hey, these are doctors, how can we say this about them.

These are medicines , they are good , a boon to man kind.

Ja right.

Get in the box now please, we don't want to hurt you.

You are going to be put to sleep now.

Well you know you need it, now.

GET IN THAT BOX, OR WE WILL RIP YOU APART.

You know you need to go ...... you are sick...........

You say NO !!!

OK have it your way, we will hit you again and again and again

until you say yes , then when you say yes, you will be hit over and over

again and again, just in case.

For the good of society and all concerned.

Its your fault now

GET IN THAT BOX.

Yes its quite a living nightmare.

Nightmares in sleep , are relief from hell in life.

The dox know this too, so we are put on edge from meds that wont

allow our rem sleep.

____ knows why so many commit suicide so very much.

Peace to all of them, free from the living hell given by the

courts, the dox and their support system.

It isnt a sin to be weak in that system, being strong only attracts

more abuse from psych, just to see how much we can stand, before

we break.

Where to break after that is a good question????

snicker

Nobody knows but us too.

Mental emotional and physical scars only an insane

psych would poke prod and rip apart to see

what we would do .

One word that scares them more than anything else .

RAPE.

glitterari@... wrote:

In a message dated 1/30/2006 5:24:12 AM Pacific Standard Time,

SSRI medications writes:

Lucky for me all psychs give me PTSD,

even being near them makes me sick.

If I had been diagnosed with PTSD it would have given psych

grounds to incarcerate , and drug me again.

I have PTSD from taking Paxil and then being locked up in a nutbin after the

drug made me psychotic and suicidal. I will never get over the experience

of being in a place with people pissing and pooping in their pants, drooling,

and twirling nonstop from the drugs. It's 8 years later and I still have

nightmares about that place, and now as a result I am terrified of doctors and

anything to do with the medical cabal. So I know where you are coming from,

and I am sorry you have been a vicitm of their concentration camp-like medical

experiments.

January 30, 2006

I don't have many nightmares or dreams , since quitting ssris and the rest of

the

viruses/diseases in pill form. They were constant for 27 years of taking them

though.

Nobody is more sorry than I am, for being a part of the ugly mess.

I am glad though , I learned how to finally deal with them , and know in some

ways , how and what

it is they do to control us.

Even after getting away from them , on anti sites, they were still trying

to get me to go Get Professional Help.

Learning how to lie to psych , is a difficult task.

The ability to double speak , double speak, and act like its not happening

while the person is making you sick, is difficult if not impossible .

Someone says well they are just dumb, someone else says, no way these

are smart psychs.

Then the ones who believe they help others, are so many.

You realize, the worst trouble of getting through to the public, are

those who believe psych is helping them , when it is hurting them terrible.

Its the neutral of truth.

The dox are a god send to the nuroleptic users, who are in terrible

T/D and change their meds to ssris.

Then the chemical blackmail .

God doc please , don't put me back on nuroleptic , I want something a little

less hurting.

Problem is , the courts require the nuroleptic, and don't give a dam

about the ssris in many cases.

They want the corrections . Halal is a corrector, same as the other

nuroleptics.

Anti depressants, or ssris, or maos, are happy pills compared.

So what happens is , the dox are worshiped for being miracle workers

away from the correctors .

When you feel as though psych has buried you alive from nurotoxins, or half

your system

is burning , while the other half is freezing, and the shaking is so bad,

ssris are a very welcome

feeling of good , compared.

Later on though we all know the cost, so the psychs must continue to pull

the switcharoo.

They are playing us as suckers , with allergic Parkinson's adverse reactions.

The psychs are toying with us , nothing more.

Playing a human game of experimentation, and power using

pills like cheese for rats.

Addiction is their hook, comeon , the first ones free.

Like the $100.00 dollar bottle of a 30 days supply of lipator.

They hook you with the sample packs, then later , you are spending

at least $1200.00 bucks a year.

Whats needed to deal with that ?

Another expensive addiction or possible surgery.

How much can you spend per month?

I could have made thousands of dollars selling the ssris I threw away

on the illegal black market .

I'm glad I didn't get anybody else hooked to them.

If I took a nuroleptic , and it didn't cause me T/D

no matter how much I took, and if ssris caused me

terrible T/D the dox would never use nuroleptic on me

because T/D is the disciplinary action.

Ive seen it done too.

A person isn't affected by nuroleptic so they change it so they are

sick.

You know , your experience in lock up , was done purposely

to install fear in you.

The courts love that.

Its a better correction than prison.

I was given valproic acid for stroke. the pain in my right brain was

incredible, I begged the doc to give me something else.

The med was increased.

If I had said, " It makes me feel good, I would like more "

the doc would have decreased the dose, or put me on something else.

That's why they say, never tell the dox insulin makes you feel good, the

DEA will not allow any injections to make anyone feel good.

We must say , the insulin makes us feel normal.

Psychs chemically torment for corrections.

That is their job.

The nightmares are an added attraction, they all love to hear you have .

That way they get the " job well done " by the judges, same as the

goons who beat us to death.

The judge places the order, the dox execute that order by telling

the goons to work us over.

" You will correct on the meds, or we will give you shock, or lobotomy.

If you still do not correct, we will keep you here for life, or just kill you ,

so you aren't a burden on your family.

You have hurt their feelings enough. "

I'm sure this is just one of the many sayings, the dox give us from their

office while on the back wards of living hell.

Hey, these are doctors, how can we say this about them.

These are medicines , they are good , a boon to man kind.

Ja right.

Get in the box now please, we don't want to hurt you.

You are going to be put to sleep now.

Well you know you need it, now.

GET IN THAT BOX, OR WE WILL RIP YOU APART.

You know you need to go ...... you are sick...........

You say NO !!!

OK have it your way, we will hit you again and again and again

until you say yes , then when you say yes, you will be hit over and over

again and again, just in case.

For the good of society and all concerned.

Its your fault now

GET IN THAT BOX.

Yes its quite a living nightmare.

Nightmares in sleep , are relief from hell in life.

The dox know this too, so we are put on edge from meds that wont

allow our rem sleep.

____ knows why so many commit suicide so very much.

Peace to all of them, free from the living hell given by the

courts, the dox and their support system.

It isnt a sin to be weak in that system, being strong only attracts

more abuse from psych, just to see how much we can stand, before

we break.

Where to break after that is a good question????

snicker

Nobody knows but us too.

Mental emotional and physical scars only an insane

psych would poke prod and rip apart to see

what we would do .

One word that scares them more than anything else .

RAPE.

glitterari@... wrote:

In a message dated 1/30/2006 5:24:12 AM Pacific Standard Time,

SSRI medications writes:

Lucky for me all psychs give me PTSD,

even being near them makes me sick.

If I had been diagnosed with PTSD it would have given psych

grounds to incarcerate , and drug me again.

I have PTSD from taking Paxil and then being locked up in a nutbin after the

drug made me psychotic and suicidal. I will never get over the experience

of being in a place with people pissing and pooping in their pants, drooling,

and twirling nonstop from the drugs. It's 8 years later and I still have

nightmares about that place, and now as a result I am terrified of doctors and

anything to do with the medical cabal. So I know where you are coming from,

and I am sorry you have been a vicitm of their concentration camp-like medical

experiments.

August 24, 2006

When I think and consider some of the stresses and situations that have beset my son over the years , I would not be surprised if people had some kind of anxiety reactions. Labels are ok too. I know I would have a few emotional problems after all the medical treatments. Hugs to all.

Adele--Dave's from Maine's Mom

August 25, 2006

----- Original Message -----

From: " Lynn Siprelle "

> Has anyone here gotten PTSD as a

> result of their medical experiences?

Lynn:

No. but I have gotten PISD as a result of sitting too long in the waiting

room to see the doctor.

From California where it's a PT SD Lauder cosmetics cost so much.

Bill

>

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>

August 25, 2006

> No. but I have gotten PISD as a result of sitting too long in the

> waiting

> room to see the doctor.

buh-dum-boom.

Lynn

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Yup! you are not the first nor are you alone. It happened to me after the unit repeatedly fired. Having no way to know it was a malfunction at the time, I assumed the shocks were necessary and that the unit was unable to correct the heart problem. The later diagnosis was in conjunction with depression which is also not uncommon for our group. If you want specifics, or more details, email me directly at eagan@...

Jim E

PTSD

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August 25, 2006

Hi Lynn,

This is my "specialty". I have had my AICD for 4+ years now. When I first got it after a sudden cardiac arrest I was dealing with the PTSD/Depression issues. After a year of no incidents and adjusting to the major changes in my life things got a little easier. Then I began to get my shocks and was in and out of the hospital every 3-4 months for about 2 years. Of course that kicked everything up a notch mentally. My last shocks were over 2 years ago now and the last incident included 10 shock in 15 minutes. After that I really hit the PTSD symptoms hard but I have to say that with time it will get better for you. I'm sure I never would have agreed with that in the past!!!

Take care and keep talking to us and getting support here.

in CA

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hello Lynn my name is Clint I never post but read every day I had PTSD a couple

year ago therapy is the way to go I waited to long to start and it made for a

longer recovery . best of health to you

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Has anyone here gotten PTSD as a result of their medical experiences?

I've just been diagnosed with it and am entering therapy.

Lynn S.

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Dear Lynn,

What a wise person getting help. What you have been through is a harrowing experience to body, mind and soul. I wish you a speedy recovery. God Bless.

Adele--Dave from Maine's MOM

August 25, 2006

I can relate... I've had my ICD for 10 years. It unfortunately

malfunctioned last summer and repeatedly fired inappropriately for 2

hours, with the first 7 shocks in 10 minutes. They've supposedly fixed

it, but it's showing signs of the same problem again. But I'm assured

any worry on my part is " just overreacting " . (I'd like some of

whatever my docs are smoking...) Meanwhile I'm waiting for the thing

to start going off again by mistake, and I'm back to sleeping with the

lights on, a little agoraphobic, stuff like that... sigh.

There's a lot of good articles on the Internet on why therapy is a good

idea -- PTSD seems to be fairly common. The therapy is a good idea --

especially if the therapists understand about ICDs. I think it can

really help a lot.

Good luck -- let us know how you're doing.

- Roxe

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> Has anyone here gotten PTSD as a result of their medical experiences?

> I've just been diagnosed with it and am entering therapy.

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Lynn

What a terrible experience. I am so sorry you had to go through that. But you are taking care of yourself. I have suffered from depression before all of my heart problems surfaced. Been on meds for it for some time now. So far I have not had the experiences you have and if I did I am sure my meds for depression would have increased.

Take care and here for you anytime

Toni

August 25, 2006

> But I'm assured

> any worry on my part is " just overreacting " . (I'd like some of

> whatever my docs are smoking...)

Indeed!

My doctors at least are taking it seriously; they're the ones who

diagnosed the PTSD. The counselor I've got is also an RN, which is nice

if only that I don't have to explain everything to her; she already

knows what I'm talking about. The first appointment was harrowing. I

didn't know I could cry that hard--I mean, WAILING.

I was 16 days in hospital, mostly in the CICU, with a 3-day return trip

a couple of weeks later when a blood clot formed on my new ICD leads.

And in that time...well, you guys know what I went through, you've been

through similar yourself. The worst was when I was moved from the CICU

to the monitored floor against doctor's orders, I began having severe

and different chest pain, I repeatedly called for help, and no one

came. And then I died. That got their attentions, the bastards. They

got to me within five seconds and had me back in 30 seconds, so I

didn't suffer permanent damage. Except to my psyche, apparently.

The downside of the counseling is that, 2 days later, I'm still wiped

out. Limp dishrag. But I'm told it gets better...

Lynn S.

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Lynn there is NO " just overreacting " I was in a state very close to that my

self it will take a long time for it to pass and it will never go away

completely but you can manger it I was 37 the first time it happened to me I was

by myself for and hour before I got help icd fired 30 times in that hour I went

strait line 3 times I am 6' 2'' 220 lbs and thought not me after everything I

was just like you for but therapy and a good Dr. and you will make it thru hang

in there ( sometimes the jokes are to cover there on freer but everybody takes

care of it in there on way ) take care

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