Detoxing

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Hi TW,

I think you should begin detoxing now. It is never too late to start, and never too early to begin. Detoxing takes many different forms in terms of specific things you can do, but in general the idea is to quit putting toxic things in, and helping your body to eliminate what is there.

So, with that in mind, here are a few tips, pursuing the first goal of stopping the influx of toxins into your body:

Change your diet. This requires committment to eliminating:

pesticide laden foods (any fruits or vegetables not farmed organically)

foods with chemical preservatives

foods that are full of empty calories and are taxing to the immune system (primarily sugar, but also white flours and heavily processed food products),

foods with hydrogenated or partially hydrogenated oils

foods that create an allergic reaction (this is an individual matter, but common allergenic foods are wheat, eggs, corn, dairy) ,

animal foods that have not been raised properly (meaning the supermarket beef that has been pumped full of antibiotics and hormones. Buy free range meats only)

ditto dairy products (those antibiotics and hormones are in the milk too),

In general, you will find that the healthiest foods are those that have not been processed in any way. The rule of thumb is to eat foods as close to their natural state as possible.

Evaluate your personal care products. The skin is one of our eliminative organs, and also very effectively absorbs what we put on it. The goal here is to avoid putting additional toxins in our body by only using personal care products that are not laden with unnecessary chemicals. A rule of thumb is "put it on your skin only if you would also put it in your mouth." That may be a little extreme, but is a valid rule of thumb! For instance, instead of using a manufactured moisturizer, you can use olive oil, coconut oil, or jojoba oil, with added essential oils. All of these oils are healthy oils that the body can use in a beneficial way, instead of having to try to break down toxic compounds that may be found in commercial moisturizers. You may want to change your toothpaste, your shampoo, conditioner, hair coloring products, lotions, and anything else you slather on your body.

Drink pure, filtered water. Tap water can no longer be trusted to be safe in many parts of the country. Chlorine is added, as well as flouride, in most municipal water districts, and both of these chemical additives are toxic. There is also concern that as our society has become drug dependent, these drugs are showing up in our water supplies--things like antibiotic residues, birth control residues, every kind of drug that may be flushed down the toilet. Water flushes our bodies and helps in the process of detoxing, but if we don't use pure water, we may in fact be adding in more toxins and creating additional burdens. Use water that has been purified through distillation, reverse osmosis, ultraviolet light, and ozonated.

There are additional concerns (such as making sure your home environment is not outgassing toxic chemicals from things like plywood, pressboard, fake wood cabinets, and dry cleaned clothes), but it can get to be a little too overwhelming. My suggestion is to just make sure your home is filled with plants that are great at cleaning the air. One great book for ideas is called "How to Grow Fresh Air" by Dr. BC Wolverton.

This is the first part of detoxing....stopping the inflow. The next step is to help your body in its effort to eliminate the toxins that are stored and being created through metabolism, and there are many things you can do to accomplish that. I've posted an article before on detoxing, so I'll give the link again...it is a great overview. www.chetday.com/spencedetox.html

This can get you started anyway, and I know from experience that just making the change in diet is a huge one that takes many little steps. I doubt that a doctor will be able to help you anymore than you can help yourself, unless they are a naturopathic physician, and you feel the need for supervision during your detoxing effort. Otherwise, most doctors are woefully ignorant of this whole detoxing concept, and will probably make fun of it. (Like mine did.) Take it one day at a time, and don't get too overwhelmed. This is a lifelong endeavor, and you will become very educated about health in the process. It is a very valuable education.

Hugs,

Patty

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From: saline952003

Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 12:59 PM

Subject: Detoxing

I have a question for all of you who are on your way to recovery. I am now 11 days post explant and I am thinking ahead as far as detoxingWhen should I start? Do you all suggest making an appointment to see my local physician? The symptoms that I have are simular to fibromyalgia. I found this web site that has pills you can take for getting rid of the toxins in your body. It is called cleanzyme. Have any of you tried this? .....I just need to know what step to take first. I am so scared that I will make another trip to see a physician whom probably won't understand my condition and might look at me as a nut!!Thanks ladies!tw

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Cricket, Does it have bentonite clay in it? I will be seeing him on the 28th. I can't wait. Love, Anita detoxing Hi, everyone.Jim Brodsky gave me a product called "wisdom of the ages" toxic clense. IT TASTES LIKE MUD, well anyway he said anytime you do a clease you should take this stuff, because the cleanses release the toxicens but this stuff grabs onto them and helps remove them from your body, other wise they can just relocate. (it better do something with as alful as it tastes.) Just thought I would pass this on. I think you can find it on the internet.WISDOM OF THE AGESAMERICANTOXIC CLENSECricket

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Anita,

It says it hasDiatomaceous minerals and Inositol in it.

Would you like to get together after you see Jim on the 28th. I live

about 7 miles from his office.

Let me know

Love Cricket

> Cricket, Does it have bentonite clay in it? I will be seeing him

on the 28th. I can't wait. Love, Anita

>

> detoxing

>

> Hi, everyone.

>

> Jim Brodsky gave me a product called " wisdom of the ages " toxic

> clense. IT TASTES LIKE MUD, well anyway he said anytime you do a

> clease you should take this stuff, because the cleanses release

the

> toxicens but this stuff grabs onto them and helps remove them

from

> your body, other wise they can just relocate. (it better do

> something with as alful as it tastes.)

>

> Just thought I would pass this on. I think you can find it on the

> internet.

>

> WISDOM OF THE AGES

> AMERICAN

> TOXIC CLENSE

>

> Cricket

>

>

>

>

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Shari,

I get my coffee from these folks...they have good info:

http://www.sawilsons.com/

I first heard of CE's 30 years ago in the Kelley Therapy book for

cancer...just now doing it....not surprising!! I used to do the more

'conventional' flushes and fasts. With the FMS/CFS (adrenal fatigue)

I know I can't handle the purges and fasts. I've been feeling esp.

lousy lately so I know I need to detox...I'm way overdue actually.

The clay info is from Shirley's Wellness Cafe

http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/clay2.htm

The parasite info I originally got from Hulda .

I'll use a type of zapper when I get there....but want to get all my

other detox out of the way first.

I'm not feeling so great but not feeling worse than before.... I

skipped yesterday...and am back on track today. There may be a day

or two a week that I skip but I figure I'll be at it for a month.

But, ya know, to be honest...I'm not so sure I've ever totally

detoxed.... I would like to take this to satisfactory end....and

then hopefully get going on raw food. Thanks for your support,

Shari!! With the fatigue and my ADD..I can get run off the track

fairly easily!

Kit

> Kit - while I don't " do " cleanses, I do fast every February for the

entire month. Usually a few days on juices and then at least 15 - 21

days on water and then back to juice. Although, this year I'm eyeing

a fast coming up starting October 9. Want to start Saturday, but I

have a class on the 8th and there's nothing worse than fasting and

trying to prepare food for a class!

>

> How's it going? And where did you get your information? Or is it

an accummulation of years of trial and error? Like most of my

learning is!!

>

> Keep up informed to your progress or write me off list. I'd really

like to help you with your progress or just keep up with your progress.

>

> Shari

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Kit,

you will be worse before you feel better...this is the "detox dump" the body is starting to dump the toxins... so this is good..

Suzi

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There is a pressure point that my Acupuncturist called the "Mother Shit Point". It is in the web between the thumb and forefinger. Pressure on that could help with detox.

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From: Suzanne

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Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 4:06 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Detoxing

Kit,

you will be worse before you feel better...this is the "detox dump" the body is starting to dump the toxins... so this is good..

Suzi

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Gayla,

That's LI-4.... a very downward moving point, in fact, it's CI for

pregnant women....so, as an aside, never let an acupuncturist do that

point if you're PG or trying to be.

Although, the CE really isn't about sh*tting...well somewhat....but

it's not a colon cleanse. In fact, it's best to do the CE after

you've taken one...so it's easier to retain...which is the

object....retaining it....only in the sigmoid colon (the last 18

inches of your 60 inch colon).

" The Coffee Enema for Liver Detoxification

The coffee enema has been used for many years to detoxify the liver.

It is a low-volume enema that remains only in the sigmoid colon. There

is a duct between the sigmoid colon and the liver called the

entero-hepatic circulation system. When the stool reaches this point,

it contains many toxins, which are sent to the liver for

detoxification. The coffee enema will increase the transit time in the

bowel. The caffeine that is absorbed into the entero-hepatic system

causes the liver ducts, including the bile ducts, to empty into the

sigmoid colon and be eliminated. Releasing the toxins in the liver

ducts, makes room for toxins from the body to enter the liver for

detoxification. The alkaloids in the caffeine stimulate the production

of glutathione-S-transferase, which is an enzyme that facilitates the

liver detoxification pathways.

Coffee enemas will not waste minerals and electrolytes because they

have already been absorbed in the previous sections of the intestines. "

rest at:

http://www.sawilsons.com/allocca.htm

Kit

> There is a pressure point that my Acupuncturist called the " Mother

Shit Point " . It is in the web between the thumb and forefinger.

Pressure on that could help with detox.

> Gayla

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Shari,

Yup....same point.

UPDATE: I increased the coffee today, but need to back it up. I can

feel I got too much caffeine. BTW: A nicer buzz than when it goes in

from the other end! The other interesting thing is that, when not

studying, I have the local public radio station on which means NPR at

the news hours. I turned it on and thought, ugh...I emphatically did

not want to listen to the news...very odd for me. And, actually

sounds like a good plan for the duration...news!....talk about toxic

input! lol, Kit

> There is a pressure point that my Acupuncturist called the " Mother

Shit Point " . It is in the web between the thumb and forefinger.

Pressure on that could help with detox.

>

> Is that the same place to apply pressure for headaches?

>

> Shari

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....ha-ha...to keep in mind for the grandchildren!!

BTW: LI-4 = Large Intestine 4

....nope, no decaf, no instant, best be plain and organic...

I use a special blend from SA (2 tablespoons in a quart...I

tried 3 today...back down to 2 for me!!)

" .... s.a.'s Therapy Blend, the first commercially available

organic coffee specifically engineered for detoxification. The high

palmitate content of these select beans is protected by a roasting

process guaranteed to produce a finely ground coffee rich in the

strongest stimulants of the most powerful human anticarcinogenic,

antimutagenic, and antiteratogenic enzyme system. "

(s'pose to be less expensive, as well...I haven't made a comparison)

http://www.sawilsons.com/coffee_enema.htm

Directions:

" An enema bag or bucket, preferably one of clear plastic that you can

see through

A large stainless steel cooking pot (I use/prefer glass)

Organic coffee fully caffeinated, drip grind coffee

A source of uncontaminated water. Chlorinated water should be boiled

for 10 minutes (I still boil my filtered water 10 in case of bacteria)

Procedure

Put a little over 1 quart of clean water in a pan and bring it to a

boil. Add 2 flat tablespoons of coffee (or the coffee amount that has

been prescribed for you). Let it continue to boil for five minutes,

then turn the stove off, leaving the pan on the hot burner.

Allow it to cool down to a very comfortable, tepid temperature. Test

with your finger. It should be the same temperature as a baby's

bottle. It's safer to have it too cold than too warm; never use it hot

or steaming; body temperature is good. "

rest at:

http://www.sawilsons.com/basic.htm

UPDATE: (hmmm, this is turning into a blow-by-blow, lol) Got a couple

of waves of nausea, am really ready to fall into bed...caffeine wore

off after a couple of hours...it feels like I'm going to get a good

night's sleep....hope that's true!! Kit

> Thank you Kit. Not preggo and at 57, not wanting to be.

>

> RE: coffee enema - how much coffee do you use. I assume it should

not be

> decaf? TIA

> Gayla

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.....in a little tape recorder under my pillow!?? hee-hee...

It's the new moon so I did a Himalayan Crystal Salt Detox bath last

night ...new moon for detox, full moon for healing....and today my

muscles are really sore. The box says it's equivalent to a 3 day

fast. Still having nausea from time to time and a little

headachey...not much else. Desisted on the CE's til time of month is

over.

Has anyone else done the HCS detox bath?

Kit

> Kit say this - It will get bettah, it will get bettah, it will get

bettah

> Gayla

[Guest guest]

No but now you have me curious to try this.

I've done epsom salt baths... will have to look in to this.

Suzi

kitcurtin <kitcurtin@...> wrote:

It's the new moon so I did a Himalayan Crystal Salt Detox bath lastnight ...new moon for detox, full moon for healing....and today mymuscles are really sore. The box says it's equivalent to a 3 dayfast. Still having nausea from time to time and a littleheadachey...not much else. Desisted on the CE's til time of month isover. Has anyone else done the HCS detox bath?

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Yes, Suzi, I'm really curious too. I took an epsom salt bath the

night before and nothing...except I did seem to sweat (face) more than

usual. . FMS'rs are suppose to have an overload of

phosphates in their cells....and exit of them causes pain....so I

don't know if the detox bath pulled out phosphates(calcium supplements

,not natural calcium, also pulls them out causing pain) or some other

toxin to cause the aching....weird...wish I knew someone else who did

an HCS detox bath....might have to look for feedback on the mfctr's

site or somethin'.

I was going to do another(directions say no more than 2 in one week),

but I may wait til next new moon and stick to epsom/other salts til

then. Pain is generally something I have to time around my

schedule...if I know I will do something to cause it.

Kit

>

> No but now you have me curious to try this.

> I've done epsom salt baths... will have to look in to this.

> Suzi

[Guest guest]

Kathy,

Do a web search on FMS and teeth fillings there is plenty out there.

SuziKathy L <angeldestiny@...> wrote:

I was using epsom salts for a while (till I ran out) and I didn't reallynotice a difference....am I missing something?Does anyone have any info on the topic of fillings agrivating/causing FMS? Iam looking for something that I can show my new dentist in hopes that whenmy hubby's dental coverage takes effect I can maybe have my old fillingsremoved....depending on the info.

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You can go to www.curezone.com and download the book Cure For All Diseases by Dr. .

Anne

Check out Dr Hulda 's books. She is death on metal fillings. You can find them in most libraries and health food stores.Gayla

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I am wondering if you have to do a kidney cleanse before a liver cleanse and if this is a safe cleanse to try? I have Fibromyalgia and Multiple Chemical Sensitivities as well as IC and Pelvic Pain Disorder. I have had all my amalgam fillings replaced including under the crowns, and really want to get better. I am really tired and have had shingles 3 times in the past year, so my body is getting very worn out. I appreciate any suggestions. I do not have a lot of funds or sources of herbs near by. I live in rural Alberta, Canada. Thank you so much.

Shirley

Ingredients

Dosage

Epsom salts

4 Tablespoons (not less !!!)

Olive oil

3/4 of a cup (light olive oil is easier to get down, use only the best cold pressed virgin oil)

Fresh grapefruit and lemons.Do not use concentrate or store-bought juice. Make your own.

Do not use concentrate or store-bought juice. Make your own. Enough to squeeze 1/4 cup of lemon and 1/2 cup of grapefruit juice for the cleanse itself. If you cannot get grape fruits then use only lemons or vise versa.

Ornithine (optional)

4 to 8, to be sure you can sleep.

Suitable jar with non-metallic lid

Shake your mixture well and gulp it down

1/2 cup of lemon/grapefruit juice

Use a couple of ounces of this juice each time to help get down the Epsom salt solution (four feedings) if desired

1/2 teaspoon of Vit C (ascorbic acid) powder (optional)

Use 1/4 teaspoon to lessen the effect of Epsom salts creating undue loose stools

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Hi Shirley, First, can you tell us about your diet?? What you eat, drink etc.. are you taking any meds, what herbs etc you take? SuziShirley <canarycee@...> wrote: I am wondering if you have to do a kidney cleanse before a liver cleanse and if this is a safe cleanse to try? I have Fibromyalgia and Multiple Chemical Sensitivities as well as IC and Pelvic Pain Disorder. I have had all my amalgam fillings replaced including under the crowns, and really want to get better. I am really tired and have had shingles 3 times in the past year, so my body is getting very worn out. I appreciate any suggestions. I do not have a lot of funds or sources of herbs near by. I live in rural Alberta, Canada. Thank you so much. Shirley Ingredients Dosage Epsom salts 4 Tablespoons (not less !!!) Olive oil 3/4 of a cup (light olive oil is easier to get down, use only the best cold pressed virgin oil) Fresh grapefruit and lemons.Do not use concentrate or store-bought juice. Make your own. Do not use concentrate or store-bought juice. Make your own. Enough to squeeze 1/4 cup of lemon and 1/2 cup of grapefruit juice for the cleanse itself. If you cannot get grape fruits then use only lemons or vise versa. Ornithine (optional) 4 to 8, to be sure you can sleep. Suitable jar with non-metallic lid Shake your mixture well and gulp it down 1/2 cup of lemon/grapefruit juice Use a couple of ounces of this juice each time to help get down the Epsom salt solution (four feedings) if desired 1/2 teaspoon of Vit C (ascorbic acid) powder (optional) Use 1/4 teaspoon to lessen the effect of Epsom salts creating undue loose stools Suzi List Owner health/ http://360./suziesgoats What is a weed? A plant whose virtues have not yet been discovered.

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Sorry it is Shirley again. I forgot to add that I am also on Gabapentin (compounded with acidolphilus (sp?), so no preservatives, additives etc. to help with neuralgia pain and also take Valium that is compounded again with acidolphilus on occasion to help with anxiety and muscle pain of Fibro.

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Complete Tonic (in the files under herbal remedies) would be good for you to take for the unhealed cavitation and possibly the shingles as it contains cayenne. Get off the carbs.......that is causing some of your problems. Do you like cranberry juice, apple juice? try some lemon squeezed in that distilled water..Shirley <canarycee@...> wrote: Yes, I have been eating a really healthy diet for most part, rarely any red meat, no pork or seafood, more organic fruits and veggies, nuts and some unfarmed fish. I drink distilled water, no soda, very little caffeine or sugar. (Do like dark chocolate though). I don't drink or smoke. I read labels so try to avoid hydrogenated anything, msg, aspartame, sulphites etc. I quit

eating wheat in 2001and I take Vit E, Liquid Magnesium, Vit C (large amounts of absorbic acid after chemical exposures), Kyolic garlic, Vit B5/B6 combo. I also take digestive enzymes once in a while when I have consumed too many carbs and get too bloated. I have also taken arnica montana and some homopathic drops and tinctures to deal with shingles and ongoing dental pain (from unhealing cavitation site) and now bladder issues. I have been to the moon and back to find resolutions, not to mention a small fortune to help with these painful issues. Any suggestions would be great. I just don't want to do a cleanse and make myself sicker. Appreciatively, Shirley Suzi List Owner health/ http://360./suziesgoats What is a weed? A plant whose virtues have not yet been discovered.

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***Complete Tonic (in the files under herbal remedies) would be good for you to take for the unhealed cavitation and possibly the shingles as it contains cayenne.Get off the carbs.......that is causing some of your problems.

Do you like cranberry juice, apple juice? try some lemon squeezed in that distilled water..

Thank you for the suggestion of adding lemon juice into the water. I think it tastes great but forget sometimes even when I have fresh lemons sitting there. I obviously need something for my mind as well, as I can't for the life of me find the cleanse you are referring to. I went to Files sections, then to the Herbal Remedies, but don't see complete tonic listed. Sorry to be a pain. I appreciate the suggestions and I know carbs are not my friends. I do take psyllum too, but forgot to add it to all the things listed in my bottle count on the cupboard.

Appreciatively,

Shirley

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You're not a pain... don't think you are. It's under Natural Herbal RemediesI would talk to a naturopath on the cleanses. The psyllum is good to cleanse Complete tonic.Complete Organic Sulphur with Turmeric Tonic (AKA Complete Tonic) One handful or about 1 cup or 8 ounces chopped organic raw onions One handful or about 1 cup or 8 ounces chopped organic raw garlic One handful or about 1 cup or 8 ounces chopped organic raw ginger One handful or about 1 cup or 8 ounces chopped organic raw horseradish One half handful or about 1/4 cup or 2 ounces of chopped organic raw habaneros --or-- 1/4 cup or 2 ounces more or less, depending on your tastes of powedered cayenne (hottest you can get) 1/4 cup or 2 ounces of Tumeric powder Put all ingredients into blender and add enough organic apple cider vinegar to blend. Pour all into a large glass jug and fill with as much ACV as you can. Best to use either 1

gallon or 4 liter glass bottles. Of course don't let that stop you if you don't have these types of bottles. Cover and place in your cupboard for two weeks. Begin this process on the new moon and strain it on the full moon. After straining dehydrate the mash that is left over and powder it up. Makes a wonderful spice for you cooking or on raw foods. Also works really well for clearing out the sinuses. Bottle the liquid and store in refrigerator and take as much as needed. Normal dose would be a teaspoonful three times per day with meals, before meals or after meals whichever suits you. This formula will boost your immune system naturally and help to regulate your circulatory system. It is also a tremendous source of organic sulphur and one of the most best and most natural antibiotic you can find. The addition of Turmeric makes this formula even more anti-inflammatory. Turmeric is also an excellent free radical scanvenger, due to its antioxidant properties. Turmeric is very good for arthritis, rheumatism, heart disease and ny other disease where free radical damage is apparent. It has even shown good results in treating certain forms of cancer and in inhibiting the growth of cancer cells. Shirley <canarycee@...> wrote: Thank you for the suggestion of adding lemon juice

into the water. I think it tastes great but forget sometimes even when I have fresh lemons sitting there. I obviously need something for my mind as well, as I can't for the life of me find the cleanse you are referring to. I went to Files sections, then to the Herbal Remedies, but don't see complete tonic listed. Sorry to be a pain. I appreciate the suggestions and I know carbs are not my friends. I do take psyllum too, but forgot to add it to all the things listed in my bottle count on the cupboard. Appreciatively

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