Guest guest Posted September 23, 2000 Report Share Posted September 23, 2000 > >>Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 20:59:20 +0200 >>cures for canceregroups >>From: Kjærstad Røren <lrren1@...> >>Subject: Re: Essiac >>Cc: >>Bcc: >>X-Attachments: >> >>My mother got breast cancer 2,5 years ago. Became metastasis in the >>skeleton and liver last autumn. Has gone through chemo treatment all >>this time without no results. The doctor told her yesterday that the >>cancer in the skeleton is developing and now her right hipbone and >>thigh bone has been attackted. She will get radiation treatment in a >>couple of weeks to get rid of the pain. >> >>She started to drink Essiac in the spring and the cancer in the >>liver dissapeard and the other results were fine. She had to stop >>because of using chemo and drinking the tea gave her such pain in >>the stomak. The results after summer were rather bad, and there are >>some new spots in the liver. She has now started on a intensive cure >>with the Essiac, and now it works much easier because the doctors >>decided to stop the treatment and just wait and see. >> >>What I was wondering is if there´s anyone out there that has >>experienced skeleton cancer and tried to stagnate it with Essiac or >>heard of someone that has? >> >>My mother is only 57 years old and some encouragement in fighting >>the cancer would help her a lot! >> >>Thank you so much for helping me. >> >>Kind Regards, >> >> > > >Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links >there. Unsubscribe by sending email to >cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting >http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2000 Report Share Posted September 23, 2000 Let me know if you have questions, I have seen alot of people use 's methods. Re: Essiac >>Cc: >>Bcc: >>X-Attachments: >> >>My mother got breast cancer 2,5 years ago. Became metastasis in the >>skeleton and liver last autumn. Has gone through chemo treatment all >>this time without no results. The doctor told her yesterday that the >>cancer in the skeleton is developing and now her right hipbone and >>thigh bone has been attackted. She will get radiation treatment in a >>couple of weeks to get rid of the pain. >> >>She started to drink Essiac in the spring and the cancer in the >>liver dissapeard and the other results were fine. She had to stop >>because of using chemo and drinking the tea gave her such pain in >>the stomak. The results after summer were rather bad, and there are >>some new spots in the liver. She has now started on a intensive cure >>with the Essiac, and now it works much easier because the doctors >>decided to stop the treatment and just wait and see. >> >>What I was wondering is if there´s anyone out there that has >>experienced skeleton cancer and tried to stagnate it with Essiac or >>heard of someone that has? >> >>My mother is only 57 years old and some encouragement in fighting >>the cancer would help her a lot! >> >>Thank you so much for helping me. >> >>Kind Regards, >> >> > > >Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links >there. Unsubscribe by sending email to >cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting >http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2000 Report Share Posted September 24, 2000 Thanks for your support! Do you mean as in Hulda ? My problem is that we live Norway, and alternative medicine is not a common way of treatment. But we do have a Hulda clinic here in Oslo, I can call them again. It is a tea you`re recommending isn`t it? Kind Regards, > >Let me know if you have questions, I have seen alot of people use 's >methods. > > Re: Essiac >>>Cc: >>>Bcc: >>>X-Attachments: >>> >>>My mother got breast cancer 2,5 years ago. Became metastasis in the >>>skeleton and liver last autumn. Has gone through chemo treatment all >>>this time without no results. The doctor told her yesterday that the >>>cancer in the skeleton is developing and now her right hipbone and >>>thigh bone has been attackted. She will get radiation treatment in a >>>couple of weeks to get rid of the pain. >>> >>>She started to drink Essiac in the spring and the cancer in the >>>liver dissapeard and the other results were fine. She had to stop >>>because of using chemo and drinking the tea gave her such pain in >>>the stomak. The results after summer were rather bad, and there are >>>some new spots in the liver. She has now started on a intensive cure >>>with the Essiac, and now it works much easier because the doctors >>>decided to stop the treatment and just wait and see. >>> >>>What I was wondering is if there´s anyone out there that has >>>experienced skeleton cancer and tried to stagnate it with Essiac or >>>heard of someone that has? >>> >>>My mother is only 57 years old and some encouragement in fighting >>>the cancer would help her a lot! >>> >>>Thank you so much for helping me. >>> >>>Kind Regards, >>> >>> >> >> >>Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links >>there. Unsubscribe by sending email to >>cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting >>http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv > > >Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. >Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by >visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv > > > >Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links >there. Unsubscribe by sending email to >cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting >http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2000 Report Share Posted September 24, 2000 > >Thanks for your support! Do you mean as in Hulda ? > >My problem is that we live Norway, and alternative medicine is not a >common way of treatment. But we do have a Hulda clinic here in >Oslo, I can call them again. It is a tea you`re recommending isn`t it? > >Kind Regards, > > > >> >>Let me know if you have questions, I have seen alot of people use 's >>methods. >> >> Re: Essiac >>>>Cc: >>>>Bcc: >>>>X-Attachments: >>>> >>>>My mother got breast cancer 2,5 years ago. Became metastasis in the >>>>skeleton and liver last autumn. Has gone through chemo treatment all >>>>this time without no results. The doctor told her yesterday that the >>>>cancer in the skeleton is developing and now her right hipbone and >>>>thigh bone has been attackted. She will get radiation treatment in a >>>>couple of weeks to get rid of the pain. >>>> >>>>She started to drink Essiac in the spring and the cancer in the >>>>liver dissapeard and the other results were fine. She had to stop >>>>because of using chemo and drinking the tea gave her such pain in >>>>the stomak. The results after summer were rather bad, and there are >>>>some new spots in the liver. She has now started on a intensive cure >>>>with the Essiac, and now it works much easier because the doctors >>>>decided to stop the treatment and just wait and see. >>>> >>>>What I was wondering is if there´s anyone out there that has >>>>experienced skeleton cancer and tried to stagnate it with Essiac or >>>>heard of someone that has? >>>> >>>>My mother is only 57 years old and some encouragement in fighting >>>>the cancer would help her a lot! >>>> >>>>Thank you so much for helping me. >>>> >>>>Kind Regards, >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>>Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links >>>there. Unsubscribe by sending email to >>>cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting >>>http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv >> >> >>Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. >>Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by >>visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv >> >> >> >>Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links >>there. Unsubscribe by sending email to >>cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting >>http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv > > >Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links >there. Unsubscribe by sending email to >cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting >http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2001 Report Share Posted July 25, 2001 In a message dated 07/25/2001 5:57:20 PM Central Daylight Time, duncancrow@... writes: > Hi Edith; > > That was a sales pitch. At the time anything connected with Indian lore sold > well, so they connected it, like they had in several other products. > > A good read of the Essiac story states quite clearly it was an IV formula. > > ciao > _------------------------ The place I read it did not sell it. Sure fooled me. Thanks, Edith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2001 Report Share Posted July 25, 2001 In a message dated 07/25/2001 5:57:20 PM Central Daylight Time, duncancrow@... writes: > Hi Edith; > > That was a sales pitch. At the time anything connected with Indian lore sold > well, so they connected it, like they had in several other products. > > A good read of the Essiac story states quite clearly it was an IV formula. > > ciao > _------------------------ The place I read it did not sell it. Sure fooled me. Thanks, Edith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2005 Report Share Posted November 10, 2005 I do . I've seen it do alot of amazing things. What are you treating? Suzi Landes <L@...> wrote: Does anyone in the group have any experience with Essiac tea? I am getting ready to brew a large pot and start taking it daily and would like any feedback you’d like to give. FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2005 Report Share Posted November 10, 2005 Suzi – In the middle of August I came down with a bad chest cold. I tried to treat it with what I had here at home – garlic, small cleanses of 2-3-4 days of lemon juice, water, cayenne; colloidal silver; daily doses of cayenne; Echinacea; breathing in steam with essential oils of Rosemary and Lavender; eating only fruits and veggies in as raw a state as possible, no dairy (don’t do dairy normally, anyway) taking some other herb combinations I got at the herb shop, drinking tea the herbalist mixed for me for lungs, breathing, etc. Well, the chest cold turned into bronchitis and then it turned into pneumonia. For about three weeks there in late September to mid-October, I was one sick puppy, sick enough I started thinking of my own mortality and thinking well, this could be it, LOL. I finally yielded to the doctor and took a couple of rounds of really strong antibiotics, thought I was over the worst and then it came back. Another round of antibiotics. One of those 14 day rounds I took was a stronger cousin of Cipro. I finished the last round of antibiotics right before Halloween. There were also many inhalers during this period (I put them off as long as I thought I could, but when you can’t breathe to the point your lips are blue and the fingernails start turning blue and purple, well, I knuckled under and used the inhalers but as sparingly as possible) I thought I was over the crud bug but this week my temp has come back. I’ve run a 101 to 102 temp now for the last three days and the coughing has started again as has the green phlegm . The doc is also telling me that I now have asthma courtesy of the pneumonia and he thinks I’ll have it the rest of my life (not!). I have done such damage to my immune system with the drugs that I am now having secondary infections: pink eye twice in two weeks, the yeast infection from hell I wouldn’t wish on my ex sis-n-law. What really bothers me is the fatigue. I am so tired – tired all the time and this is not me. I’ve worked two full time jobs for two years and I do not get sick like this and I do not stay sick like this. The doctor is telling me the fatigue is because I did not get enough oxygen for such a long period of time and I am still not getting enough oxygen. I still had swelling in the lower lung lobes at Halloween although the doc said the pneumonia sounds were gone. He told me I have acute something-or-other bronchitis with asthmatic complications so-and-so. (He wrote the diagnosis down, I threw the paper away before I got home that day. If the mind thinks that’s what I’ve got, well then that is what I will have and I’m not having it, LOL) I have been reading a lot of different things, including a lot about Essiac. To me, that sounds like the way to go. Drink the tea and clean out my system at the same time I kill this bug. I have two different batches of the tea mixture, I got one from an ebay seller and another from an herb shop. My cousin is big into herbs and knows I’ve been sick and he came by last night and gave me a small booklet and a cd on – Eassiac. (Is the cosmos trying to tell me something?) He buys his Essiac mixture from an herb shop in the next town and swears by it, so I am heading that way this afternoon to buy some of it and talk to that shop owner. I guess I’ll line up the mixtures I’ve got and see which one looks the best to boil, LOL. The mixture I got from an herb shop last week is in a large homemade tea bag so I can’t tell what it looks like. The mixture I got from ebay looks like dirt someone scraped off of a country road, although the lady sent me copies of all of her qualifications. In fact, I think I found her from a post someone sent to this group; I don’t have her name handy but she is from the Ozark Hills. Any input would be greatly appreciated – -----Original Message----- From: health [mailto:health ] On Behalf Of Suzanne Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 11:47 AM health Subject: Re: Essiac I do . I've seen it do alot of amazing things. What are you treating? Suzi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2005 Report Share Posted November 11, 2005 Hi , I've been drinking Essiac Tea for about 10 years as a preventative. Have you done a Google search and read anything about it? It's really a good product and if you have a good health food store in your area, sometimes they make up their own which is a lot less expensive. Judy > > > Does anyone in the group have any experience with Essiac tea? > > I am getting ready to brew a large pot and start taking it daily and > would like any feedback you'd like to give. > > Thanks! > > L. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2005 Report Share Posted November 11, 2005 So Essiac tea is an immune builder and not just for cancer? Thanks mary For the Lord God helps Me; therefore have I not been ashamed or confounded. Therefore have I set My face like a flint, and I know that I shall not be put to shame. Isa 50:7 FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2005 Report Share Posted November 11, 2005 Suzi – Please see my answers below and I thank you very much for taking the time to answer me! L. In health , " Landes " <L@k...> wrote: > > In the middle of August I came down with a bad chest cold. I tried to > treat it with what I had here at home - garlic, how much garlic and was it cloves? writes: I have both, organic clove garlic and garlic capsules I bought at the HFS. I was taking the capsules and then started peeling the clove, slicing it in half and swallowing it down with water. I was surprised to find that I could smell the garlic on my breath a little bit and I would burp from time to time a couple of hours after swallowing the clove and could taste the garlic then but I never did “stink” like so many people claim you will if you are toxic and eat garlic. I could tell the garlic opened my airways up because a couple of hours after taking it I could breathe easier, or so it seemed. It just didn’t last very long, LOL. small cleanses of 2-3-4 > days of lemon juice, water, how much water were you drinking ? I drink at least a gallon of water a day, quite often more. I have a quart bottle that I will fill and drink, fill and drink. I drink either distilled water or spring water – very rarely do I drink water from the tap. I haven’t drunk any type of soda pop for over a year now, but I do drink tea. I drank more tea the last three months of being sick than I drank all year. cayenne; colloidal silver; daily doses of > cayenne; Echinacea; breathing in steam with essential oils of Rosemary > and Lavender; eating only fruits and veggies in as raw a state as > possible, no dairy (don't do dairy normally, anyway) taking some other > herb combinations I got at the herb shop, drinking tea the herbalist > mixed for me for lungs, breathing, etc. do you know what was in them?? Yes, the tea was called “Breathe Tea” and was a mix the herb shop makes by hand and packages. It contains licorice root, basil, eucalyptus, ginger, cinnamon, thyme, elecampane, peppermint, cardamom & mullein. I don’t have the breakdown of how much of each ingredient went into the tea mixes. I was also using another mix the shop makes and it is called “Cold & Flu Brew”. It contains Echinacea, thyme, sage, ginger, yarrow & rose hips. I also used another tea for the lungs that I can’t give the ingredients for because I used the entire mix and threw the package away. I know it had mullein & Echinacea, orange & lemon peel in it, and I think it might have had lobelia. I also bought bottles of astralagus and echinacea and was taking double or triple the recommended dosage on the bottle. I was also trying to get down a liquid B complex. One thing I noticed about the astralagus: when I took it, within just a few hours my hands would swell, as if I was retaining water. The entire time I was taking it my hands and then my feet and ankles would be really swollen and bloated. I stopped taking it because I read that Astralaus can cause water retention. I also noticed I “gurgled” more when trying to breathe when I was taking that herb. It’s hard to explain, but I was so congested when I breathed in and out I would literally hear myself gurgle and it was worse when using the Astralagus. The first time I went to the clinic, the nurse practitioner listed to me and told me I sounded like I was in congestive heart failure I had so much water in my lungs. About two weeks later, after stopping the Astralagus, I was sicker than I was before but the gurgling wasn’t as bad, the edema in the hands and feet had gone down considerably. Well, the chest cold turned > into bronchitis and then it turned into pneumonia. For about three > weeks there in late September to mid-October, I was one sick puppy, sick > enough I started thinking of my own mortality and thinking well, this > could be it, LOL. Don't forget things like thyme and sage - can be made as tea of put into capsules... you probably have them in your cabinet..... It is amazing what we have that we don’t realize we can use. Reminds me of the time my grandmother was butchering a pig and cut her hand terribly, almost to the bone. She walked out back to the shed and stuck her hand in a can of kerosene, wrapped up the hand and went right back to making head cheese out of that hog, LOL. I don’t remember her hand getting infected or her having any trouble out of it. > > I finally yielded to the doctor and took a couple of rounds of really > strong antibiotics, thought I was over the worst and then it came back. > Another round of antibiotics. One of those 14 day rounds I took was a > stronger cousin of Cipro. I finished the last round of antibiotics > right before Halloween. There were also many inhalers during this > period (I put them off as long as I thought I could, but when you can't > breathe to the point your lips are blue and the fingernails start > turning blue and purple, well, I knuckled under and used the inhalers > but as sparingly as possible) I would suggest getting a Netti pot also, Breathing the vapors from a mix of tea tree oil, peppermint, and eucalyptus is also good. And of course taking the pulp from super or complete tonic as a snuff will definitely open your head. Yes, I have a Neti pot and used to use it religiously every morning. I always use sea salt. I got out of the habit of using it the last three months because when my head was so congested I couldn’t breathe through my nose it was kinda hard to get anything into the sinuses. I would try and would get some flush going but the effort at the time was too much for as sick as I was. I was using essential oils of lavender & rosemary in boiling water and would make a tent over the pot with a towel over my head and breathe the vapors. That did help, but like the garlic it didn’t last long enough. > > I thought I was over the crud bug but this week my temp has come back. > I've run a 101 to 102 temp now for the last three days and the coughing > has started again as has the green phlegm . The doc is also telling me > that I now have asthma courtesy of the pneumonia and he thinks I'll have > it the rest of my life (not!). I have done such damage to my immune > system with the drugs that I am now having secondary infections: pink > eye twice in two weeks, the yeast infection from hell I wouldn't wish on > my ex sis-n-law. You need to do a total cleanse girl.. The Master cleanse or at least the mini cleanse in the files - once a week for starters. I would also make up some super or better yet, complete tonic... You can also use the pulp for inhaling. Also, some lobelia would be good or some Osha Root also Astralagus or echinacea on a week off a week for your immune system. The last “major” cleanse I did was the Master Cleanse and that was the beginning of this year. I stayed on it for 10 days. (I did the same cleanse this same time last year) I’ve done mini fasts throughout the year of 2-3 days and have done what I call juice cleanses or juice fasts, too, where I take in only fresh juice I made myself from organic fruit whenever possible. I also, at one point in the summer, did a ten day cleanse using a product I bought at the HFS. It was basically a combination colon/liver cleanse. I am at a point now where I can take the time to do a more in-depth cleanse, I’m thinking on the order of a whole body cleanse. I’m going to try the Essiac tea and a few other things for a couple of weeks and then make plans for an extended cleanse through the remainder of the year. (Suzi, see my other post about going to the herb shop yesterday and what the herbalist told me) > > What really bothers me is the fatigue. This is where you need complete nutrition. I have the recipe on my desk; I’ve had it printed out for months and under my blotter. Guess it is time to get it out and act! I am so tired - tired all the > time and this is not me. I've worked two full time jobs for two years > and I do not get sick like this and I do not stay sick like this. The > doctor is telling me the fatigue is because I did not get enough oxygen > for such a long period of time and I am still not getting enough oxygen. > I still had swelling in the lower lung lobes at Halloween although the > doc said the pneumonia sounds were gone. He told me I have acute > something-or-other bronchitis with asthmatic complications so-and-so. I just posted a juice recipe you might want to start taking.. I saw that and have saved it, along with the smoothie recipes you posted yesterday and a few other juice recipes I also saw today. > (He wrote the diagnosis down, I threw the paper away before I got home > that day. If the mind thinks that's what I've got, well then that is > what I will have and I'm not having it, LOL) > > I have been reading a lot of different things, including a lot about > Essiac. To me, that sounds like the way to go. Drink the tea and clean > out my system at the same time I kill this bug. Essiac works on alot of things and would not hurt...and probably will help to a degree... You will have to take it on maximum doses... I've seen it cure alot, but cant' attest to it curing pneumonia. etc.. You will still need an immune booster,,,,and I would suggest complete nutrition or be doing your own juicing along with this..and continuing raw for awhile..at least till this is passed... I do a lot of my own juicing and usually I can tell the difference in myself when I do and when I don’t. With this bug, though, it didn’t seem like any amount of juice would do any good. I basically quit juicing any type of orange at all – if I made fresh squeezed orange juice and drank it, within a very short period of time I would be very congested in both head and chest. I read that orange juice is mucus causing and the herbalist told me the same thing yesterday. I usually juice apples and pears, or apples with vegetables, throwing whole key limes into the mix. I have two different > batches of the tea mixture, I got one from an ebay seller and another > from an herb shop. My cousin is big into herbs and knows I've been sick > and he came by last night and gave me a small booklet and a cd on - > Eassiac. (Is the cosmos trying to tell me something?) He buys his > Essiac mixture from an herb shop in the next town and swears by it, so I > am heading that way this afternoon to buy some of it and talk to that > shop owner. I guess I'll line up the mixtures I've got and see which > one looks the best to boil, LOL. The recipe is in the files also. Thanks for that heads up – I have gone through the files many times and evidently that recipe sailed right over the top of my head. Thank you, Suzi, for taking the time to respond. I appreciate it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2005 Report Share Posted November 11, 2005 I would go to astralagus or echinacea for an immune booster first. Essiac is more towards cancer, however I've seen it work on tumors, some colds etc.. Suzi Reilly <setlikeflint@...> wrote: So Essiac tea is an immune builder and not just for cancer? Suzi What is a weed? A plant whose virtues have not yet been discovered. health/ www.onegrp.com/?mamanott organic cosmetics http://suziesgoats.wholefoodfarmacy.com/ FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2005 Report Share Posted November 11, 2005 OK, thanks. My husband got a flu shot, I am not getting one. m I would go to astralagus or echinacea for an immune booster first. Essiac is more towards cancer, however I've seen it work on tumors, some colds etc.. Suzi For the Lord God helps Me; therefore have I not been ashamed or confounded. Therefore have I set My face like a flint, and I know that I shall not be put to shame. Isa 50:7 FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2005 Report Share Posted November 11, 2005 OK, with all the drugs you took you need a full detox/cleanse... On OTC (over the counter) herbs (pre packaged) they are no where near as potent as they say... Garlic cloves.. you should have done about 8-12 cloves a day while sick.. You could also have inserted a half clove cut lenthwise coated in olive oil up your "butt" .. Sounds nasty or gross to some, however, the garlic gets into your system so much faster and better. This is good to do when you go to sleep at nite.. (when you're under the weather).. Good on the water... Keep up the lemon in it... will help cut the mucous.. You can cut your juices with water also... Your tea mixes sound good. I really think (My opinion) that the astralagus was working to get the "junk" out of you... switch to echinacea if you're unsure. Do you have any super tonic??? I'm guessing not cause you haven't mentioned it... Take the essiac at least 2 times a day if not 3 if you feel really bad - full dosages. You should see some improvements in several days. Check into OSHA ROOT....It is rather good on respitory ails also.. but do increase your garlic cloves.. Also, don't forget the epsom salt baths and drink some ginger tea while soaking.. it will help you sweat out more of the toxins... but get out carefully as you may feel a bit "whoozey" Suzi Suzi What is a weed? A plant whose virtues have not yet been discovered. health/ www.onegrp.com/?mamanott organic cosmetics http://suziesgoats.wholefoodfarmacy.com/ FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2005 Report Share Posted November 11, 2005 Burdock root, one of the ingredients of Essiac, is also well known as an immune builder. When I was at the herb shop yesterday I met an elderly couple who were there to buy the Essiac tea mix. The elderly gentleman had cancer and he told me that in the beginning, right after his cancer diagnosis, he used Burdock root tea to build his immune system and it worked wonders. His doctor couldn’t believe the change in his blood count tests. Before starting chemo the man began using Essiac tea, and told me he had no side effects at all from the chemo (I had another herbalist tell me this same thing a couple of weeks ago. She was treated for cancer last year and took her own blend of Essiac during the chemo regime and was not sick, lost no hair and continued to work and run her herb shop the entire time she was being treated. This was the herbalist I bought all of my breathing tea/cold & flu tea from) The gentleman also told me that in his opinion, between the Burdock root tea and the Essiac, not only was his chemo therapy non-eventful but he avoided radiation treatments that were scheduled after the chemo. Burdock is a cousin to Echinacea and dandelion and is a member of the thistle family. Have you ever gone out into the woods and later picked cockle burrs off of your pants or socks? That plant is Burdock root. It takes a two year old plant to grow the burrs but one year old plants are what are used for herbal medicinal purposes. L. -----Original Message----- From: health [mailto:health ] On Behalf Of Suzanne Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 10:24 AM To: health Subject: Re: Essiac I would go to astralagus or echinacea for an immune booster first. Essiac is more towards cancer, however I've seen it work on tumors, some colds etc.. Suzi Reilly <setlikeflint@...> wrote: So Essiac tea is an immune builder and not just for cancer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2005 Report Share Posted November 11, 2005 Keep plenty of Super Tonic on hand, echinacea, garlic cloves... you'll do fine.. I take my tonic every day and nite while we have people at work with colds, etc... otherwise I usually take it once every day. Another good one is Echinacea and cayenne and garlic tincture I do keep sage, thyme, osha root around also..I refuse a flu shot every year... Reilly <setlikeflint@...> wrote: OK, thanks. My husband got a flu shot, I am not getting one. FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2005 Report Share Posted November 11, 2005 This is true. I had a friend with a cancer due to aspetos (sp)... The drs were amazed.. he did their treatment but they didn't give him but a few months... hehehe.. he beat it - it went into remission and he lived a number of years after that.. he quit taking the essiac (cause he was well).. he had a relapse due to pneumonia.. and he felt that God was calling him home now and would take no more of anything.. His wife told me it was mostly the pneumonia that did him in... Burdock root has been traditionally used as a "blood purifier" to clear the bloodstream of toxins, as a diuretic to promote the excretion of urine, and as a topical remedy to relieve skin problems. In folk medicine, burdock has also been used as a laxative and to relieve inflammatory conditions such as arthritis. Plus, there is belief that burdock may be helpful for kidney stones. Despite the fact that burdock has been used for centuries to treat a variety of conditions, few (if any) scientific studies have proven that this herb is a safe and useful remedy. Still, many professional herbalists find burdock helpful for skin and scalp conditions (including acne, psoriasis, eczema, contact dermatitis, and wounds) and inflammatory conditions such as osteoarthritis, rheumatoid arthritis, and gout. Preparations of burdock root are also used to promote perspiration and the excretion of urine and to treat ailments and complaints of the digestive system.Burdock cleanses the blood which in turn cleanses the body getting rid of toxins, which is why it is thought of as an immune builder because the person gets better after the toxins get out of the body;. Landes <L@...> wrote: Burdock root, one of the ingredients of Essiac, is also well known as an immune builder. When I was at the herb shop yesterday I met an elderly couple who were there to buy the Essiac tea mix. The elderly gentleman had cancer and he told me that in the beginning, right after his cancer diagnosis, he used Burdock root tea to build his immune system and it worked wonders. His doctor couldn’t believe the change in his blood count tests. Before starting chemo the man began using Essiac tea, and told me he had no side effects at all from the chemo (I had another herbalist tell me this same thing a couple of weeks ago. She was treated for cancer last year and took her own blend of Essiac during the chemo regime and was not sick, lost no hair and continued to work and run her herb shop the entire time she was being treated. This was the herbalist I bought all of my breathing tea/cold & flu tea from) The gentleman also told me that in his opinion, between the Burdock root tea and the Essiac, not only was his chemo therapy non-eventful but he avoided radiation treatments that were scheduled after the chemo. Burdock is a cousin to Echinacea and dandelion and is a member of the thistle family. Have you ever gone out into the woods and later picked cockle burrs off of your pants or socks? That plant is Burdock root. It takes a two year old plant to grow the burrs but one year old plants are what are used for herbal medicinal purposes. FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2005 Report Share Posted November 11, 2005 – Essiac’s main claim to fame may be curing cancer but it also looks like the tea will do so much more. I have been doing a lot of research on Essiac the last few weeks, and I am now quoting from a book that was contributed to by doctors both in the US and Canada that worked with Rene Caisse doing Essiac clinical studies. One of these doctors was Dr. A. Brusch, who was the personal physician of F. Kennedy and who is credited with saving the life of Ted Kennedy’s son when he had sarcoma cancer of the bone to the point his leg was amputated. What did Dr. Brusch use on ? Essiac. That Kennedy son is a member of Congress these days. It is interesting to read the quotes of Dr. Brusch. He says, “Essiac is a cure for cancer, period. All studies done at laboratories in the US and Canada support his conclusion.” It is interesting to note that when this quote was widely publicized the federal government issued a gag order and said, “You have one of two choices, either keep quiet or we’ll haul you off to military prison.” I have a copy of a letter written by Dr. Brush in which he says that he and Rene Caisse worked together for over four years and he supervised 18 medical doctors who worked with Essiac and terminally ill cancer patients for over 10 years and saw complete cures or quality of life elevated, extended and maintained. Brusch himself was diagnosed with lower bowel cancer in 1984 and cured himself through Essiac alone. When he was checked in 1989, there was no sign of any malignancy at all. Sloan-Kettering also did an extensive 3 year study on Essiac and came to the same conclusions Dr. Brusch did, that info was never realized to the general public. It is also interesting to note that all of this documentation, notes, clinical trials, etc. was seized by the US government and given to the Canadian Ministry of Health & Welfare who destroyed it. The Sloan-Kettering study claimed that Sheep Sorrel was the Essiac ingredient that was responsible for destruction of cancer cells in the body, so the Canadian government banned the herb (or should I just call it a common weed). It is documented, also, that upon Rene Caisse’s death, the Canadian Ministry of Health & Welfare went to her home, seized and burnt, in 55 gallon drums set up behind her home, all of her Essiac research and papers. All 40 years worth. Dr. Brusch and Rene’s work was also seized and destroyed. What is interesting to read are the testimonials of doctors that worked with Rene. Some of them include Dr. Albert Schatz, who discovered tuberculosis; Sir Fredrick Banting, the co-discover of insulin; doctors from Harvard, Temple, Tufts, Northwestern University – all of these have tested Essiac and came to the same conclusions that Rene Caisse and Dr. Brusch did. That same Canadian Ministry of Heath & Welfare also declared Essiac a cure for cancer in, get this – 1937. 1937! This is what the doctor’s had to say: Therapeutic activity of Essiac: Prevents the build up of fatty deposits in artery walls, heart, kidney & liver. Regulates cholesterol levels by transforming sugar and fat into energy. Destroys parasites in the digestive system and throughout the body. Counteracts the effects of aluminum, lead and mercury poisoning. Strengthens and tightens muscles, organs and tissues. Makes bones, joints, ligaments, lungs and membranes strong and flexible, less vulnerable to stress or stress injuries. Nourishes and stimulates the brain and nervous system. Promotes the absorption of fluids in the tissues. Removes toxic accumulations in the fat, lymph, bone marrow, bladder and alimentary canals. Neutralizes acids, absorbs toxins in the bowel and eliminates both. Clears the respiratory channels by dissolving and expelling mucus. Relieves the liver of its burden of detoxification by converting fatty toxins into water-soluble substances that can then be easily eliminated through the kidneys. Assists the liver to produce lecithin, which forms part of the myelin sheath, a white, fatty material that encloses nerve fibers. Reduces, perhaps eliminates, heavy metal deposits in tissues, especially those surrounding the joints, to reduce inflammation and stiffness. Improves the function of the pancreas and spleen by increasing the effectiveness of insulin. Purifies the blood. Increases red blood cell production and keeps them from rupturing. Increases the body’s ability to utilize oxygen by raising oxygen level in the tissue cell. Maintains the balance between potassium and sodium within the body so that the fluid inside and outside each cell is regulated; in this way cells are nourished with nutrients and also cleansed. Converts calcium and potassium oxalates into harmless forms by making them solvent in the urine. Regulates the amount of oxalic acid delivered to the kidneys, thus reducing the risk of stone formation in the gall bladder, kidneys or urinary tract. Protects against toxins entering the brain. Protects the body against radiation and x-rays. Relives pain, increases the appetite and provides more energy along with a sense of well being. Speeds up would healing by regenerating the damaged area. Increases the production of antibodies like lymphocytes and Tcells in the thymus gland, which is the defense of our immune system. Inhibits and possibly destroys benign growths and tumors. Cures the common cold. This booklet goes on in detail about how Essiac has been found to be very helpful in people suffering from Chronic Fatigue, Lupus, Alzheimer’s and Multiple Sclerosis. Complete cures have been documented especially in the area of Chronic Fatigue. It goes on to say that the belief is that Essiac rids of the body of toxins and heavy metals, restores energy levels and purifies the blood and tissues to the point that the body then can take over and rid itself of all disease. What’s interesting is Essiac and AIDS. In 1993 Dr. Glum worked with an AIDS project in Los Angeles. The project had sent 179 AIDS patients home to die. Dr. Glum took 5 of these patients, took them off of AZT and all drugs and gave them nothing but 2 oz. of Essiac 3 times a day (this is the same dosage the herbalist I met yesterday told me to take). By February of 1994, every other patient in the study had died but Dr. Glum’s patients were alive, exercising, eating 3 meals a day, weights were back to normal, they were living normal lives and they exhibited no signs of AIDS. Dr. Glum went on to write a book about Rene and Essiac titled “Calling of an Angel”. No publishing company would touch the book so he published it himself, at which time the IRS served him with a half-million dollar tax bill and sealed his offices – seizing and removing only his supply of self-published books. He has written that an IRS agent told him during the seizure “You know this has got nothing to do with taxes. It’s all about cancer.” Anyway, sorry about the novella but this is fascinating research! L. -----Original Message----- From: health [mailto:health ] On Behalf Of Reilly Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 9:32 AM To: health Subject: Re: Essiac So Essiac tea is an immune builder and not just for cancer? 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Guest guest Posted November 12, 2005 Report Share Posted November 12, 2005 The original formula was 4 herbs. Not equal amounts...(See the files) There used to be a book (don't think it's published anymore) but finding it now is hard and I don't remember the name of it. Essiac does cure cancer.. it will relieve the pain and give quality life for time left to cancer patients where the cancer has spread and major organs are already shut down.. It can't cure if the major organs have quit, but will extend the time left. It does work on some pains, have seen it work on some tumors and it worked on my cats when they came down sick due to a new cat entering their life and "infecting" them with a cold type virus.. where the vet's meds didn't work..and they were getting worse..essiac did and cured them. SuziGayla <goatclearing@...> wrote: I am totally confused now. I just googled essiac and came up with this - it refutes what just posted. http://www.sumeria.net/health/essiac3.html So is essiac a combination of 4 herbs? Is it the same as Flor*essence? Is it a proproetary blend or just the four? In equal amounts? Suzi What is a weed? A plant whose virtues have not yet been discovered. health/ www.onegrp.com/?mamanott organic cosmetics http://suziesgoats.wholefoodfarmacy.com/ FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2005 Report Share Posted November 13, 2005 Well, Gayla, with the research I’ve done on the subject, I’ll go with the tons of other info that have come from many different sources that all says basically the same thing; that website is the only place I have ever heard those claims made. -----Original Message----- From: health [mailto:health ] On Behalf Of Gayla Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 10:37 PM To: health Subject: Re: Essiac There is an article I posted the link for that says most of that article is false. I sure would love to know the truth. Gayla Always Enough Ranch Acampo, California Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2005 Report Share Posted November 13, 2005 Gayla – I brewed my first batch of Essiac tea last night, reheated it and bottled it this morning. I drank some at that time and if I can get over the taste I’ll be ok, LOL. Maybe it’s because the first time I saw the mixture I thought it looked like scrapings from a country dirt road, but I swear the stuff tastes like dirt! The herbalist I spoke to and bought the tea from added cinnamon to my mixture, saying that would make it taste better (I can sort of taste the cinnamon), and he also added Astragalus. I’ve read that Essiac will clean out your colon (my cousin and a co-worker also testify to this) and the herbalist told me that if I thought I could handle it I could drink tea the first day or two without regard to amount until I had diarrhea, then back off the dosage, but I could drink more than 6 oz. a day if I wanted to. (The herbalist told me to drink 2 oz. 3 times a day) From what he said, which correlates with what I have read, 2 oz. 3 times a day is the “regular” dosage for a sick person. I started brewing with one gallon of spring water and I ended up with 7 pint jars, so not much evaporated. Today I drank the tea twice, this morning first thing and this evening. I was gone from the house most of the day or I would have gotten the third dose in. This morning I drank about 4 oz., this evening I drank almost a whole cup. I don’t know if it was the dosage this morning or not, but as I was out and about today my coughing was worse than it was yesterday but I was bringing a lot more stuff up. My nose was also running like a sieve and it hasn’t been doing that until today. Hopefully, it’s the tea doing it’s job. I’ll keep drinking the tea and see what happens. -----Original Message----- From: health [mailto:health ] On Behalf Of Gayla Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 11:12 PM To: health Subject: Re: Essiac Thanks . When something works, there can be so much hype surrounding it, that it is hard to see the truth. And you are right - when someone is marketing a product, the opposition is full of garbage! <S> I will check for myself. I have a friend with espphagus cancer and another friend whose hubby has lung cancer. And I am curious to try it on myself and see what the results are. Thanks again! I appreciate it. Gayla Always Enough Ranch Acampo, California Check out our SALE PAGE at www.bouncinghoofs.com/alwaysenoughhobbysale.html A day without Bill Barnhill is like a day without sunshine! goatclearing@... http://coloredboers.home.att.net/always.html No one ever gets far unless he accomplishes the impossible at least once a day. Elbert Hubbard ----- Original Message ----- From: Landes health Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 8:16 AM Subject: RE: Essiac Gayla – If this article wasn’t pushing a product I wouldn’t be so suspicious of it. That’s an age old marketing ploy – instill fear or loathing of the competitor so you can swoop in and make the sale with your product. I have the Wildfire article of Dr. Glum and I quoted pieces from that, but I also have two books that have a letter from Dr. Brusch that is notarized that basically says the same thing Dr. Glum quoted and what I wrote. Brusch is also quoted in both books and the quotes are the same, and there are pages of testimonials on one of the books and some of those came from the doctor’s doing the Essiac trials. One of these books received a press/publishing award for Health, Medicine & Nutrition and that book is where the list of what Essiac does came from. I have a cd here that I cannot find on the top of my desk at the moment – it was given to me by my cousin and is about Rene Caisse. I haven’t looked at it yet but I will let you know what it says when I do. The Essiac sold today contains 4 ingredients: Burdock Root. Rhubarb, Sheep Sorrell & Slippery Elm. Rene did use a formula that contained either 7 or 8 herbs (need to find the reference in the book to be sure of the number) but from what I understand she also used the 4 ingredient formula. I have never read anything on the web or in any of the literature I have about injections of Essiac being done into muscle. I also have Dr. Glum’s email address and snail mail address somewhere in this literature. I am going to write to him. I saw the book this article is referring to, “The Essiac Report” at the HFS on Thursday. I didn’t buy it because I already had a couple of Essiac books and photocopies of things that people have given or sent to me, plus the book was $16.00. I’m just a cheapskate at heart, evidently, LOL! I am going back to the HFS to thumb through the book and see what it says. We’ll find out if the Essiac tea mixture I bought Thursday does the trick. I brewed a batch yesterday and just finished putting it in canning jars and sticking it in the frig. I am sitting here drinking a cup as I type. When I was in the herb shop Thursday, the owner had 4 huge blue barrels sitting by the front door on which were piled a large stack of boxes. He told the elderly couple and myself, as we stood there talking about Essiac, that those barrels and boxes contained nothing but his Essiac tea mix and they were ready to be shipped out. He said he makes shipments out like that at least once a month, with the barrels going to different clinics, the boxes to individuals. While I was at the store the elderly couple were also buying Essiac and had numerous good things to say about it. After they left but before I left, at least a dozen people came into the store and were waiting on the owner to finish with me so he could help them and when half of them noticed what I was buying they started talking among themselves about the Essiac tea because that’s why they were in the store, to buy the same. The other herb shop I bought my breathing teas from sells Essiac and the owner is firm in her personal testimonial of it (I wrote about her and her chemo experience yesterday); my cousin is a journeyman lineman and he has been drinking the Essiac tea for a couple of years. Quite a few of the men on his crew drink and swear by the tea for getting rid of their aches and pains, joint problems, etc. Who to believe? L. -----Original Message----- From: health [mailto:health ] On Behalf Of Gayla Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 7:49 PM To: health Subject: Re: Essiac I am totally confused now. I just googled essiac and came up with this - it refutes what just posted. http://www.sumeria.net/health/essiac3.html So is essiac a combination of 4 herbs? Is it the same as Flor*essence? Is it a proproetary blend or just the four? In equal amounts? Gayla Always Enough Ranch Acampo, California Check out our SALE PAGE at www.bouncinghoofs.com/alwaysenoughhobbysale.html A day without Bill Barnhill is like a day without sunshine! goatclearing@... http://coloredboers.home.att.net/always.html No one ever gets far unless he accomplishes the impossible at least once a day. Elbert Hubbard ----- Original Message ----- From: Landes health Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 1:55 PM Subject: RE: Essiac Dial Broadband has arrived Nationwide! Up to 5 times faster than traditional dialup connections from $13.33/month! See the demo for yourself at www.BigValley.net Dial Broadband has arrived Nationwide! Up to 5 times faster than traditional dialup connections from $13.33/month! 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Guest guest Posted November 28, 2005 Report Share Posted November 28, 2005 Judy, Mine were pretty sick... I gave a dropperful two to three times a day.. it depends on how sick they are.. Suzijmb20346 <jmb20346@...> wrote: Hi Suzanne,How did you administer the Essiac to your cats? I drink 4 ozs. every day and had thought about giving it to my cats when they had a virus but didn't really know how to do it so I just called the vet! That was a mistake, now my kitten is afraid of people when they come over. Also, it took a while for them to get rid of the virus after putting cream in their eyes and drops down their throat! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 Started out being used to treat cancer... which is what it is "famous" for, but also treats tumors, and a variety of other things... If you do a search on it you'll find tons of info. suzicctux <cctux@...> wrote: Hi team!Can someone tell me what essiac is used for? I saw the tea recipe in the files, but not sure what it is for. Do you take it everyday for- ever or just for limited time if it is for a specific ailment?Just curious. Thanks! Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Autos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 I would like to try essiac, but I'm unable to prepare this myself. Is it possible to buy it already made? Rena Re: essiac Started out being used to treat cancer... which is what it is "famous" for, but also treats tumors, and a variety of other things... If you do a search on it you'll find tons of info. suzicctux <cctux@...> wrote: Hi team!Can someone tell me what essiac is used for? I saw the tea recipe in the files, but not sure what it is for. Do you take it everyday for- ever or just for limited time if it is for a specific ailment?Just curious. Thanks! Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Autos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 Hello Anne, When I tried to open this link it said: You are not authorized to view this page but then I went to the homepage and was able to enter. Thanks, Rena Essiac When recovering from Pnumonia I got mine from: www.essiac-canada.com/statue.htm Anne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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