Re: Re: A Loss today

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everyone we come into contact with (2 or 4 legged), we came into contact for a specific reason...

I believe that too, Suzi. I don't believe that people and pets come into your life at random. They are either here to teach us something, us to teach them something, or it goes both ways. Oreo may have been a cat, but I had enough sense to realize early on that he knew things I didn't know and lived from a higher reality. He was egoless! He had so much patience and I saw my impatience. He had an unwaivering acceptance of anybody and any situation, and I saw my "too quick to judge" aspect of myself. He was fearless...he'd walk into a room with 5 cats hissing at him (the territorial thing) and he'd walk right up to them and start giving them a bath!... totally unfazed by their hostility. And, in the very end, he let go peacefully with absolutely no resistance. He had an amazing amount of pure Trust.....something I need to cultivate more of. In the years I had him I sometimes watched him in awe and learned so much because he reflected my shortcomings back to me by his not having them! It was no accident that we were drawn to one another. Two other people wanted him before I came along and the shelter owner called and told me that for some reason she wanted me to have him. I now am much more sensitive to what others who come into my life might be showing me and I'm sure I have taught people things about themselves by just being who I am. You are right...you have to go beneath the surface to see those lessons.

Gloria

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Well, I'll tell you my belief... I truly believe we are here not only to learn but to teach. and that everyone we come into contact with (2 or 4 legged), we came into contact for a specific reason...Sometimes we are lucky enough to discover the reason.... sometimes it takes years before we know and sometimes we may never know. And maybe the reason was just to have the experience... sometimes when I lose a kitten, I think "well, at least it got to experience love before it went back to the spirit world or heaven or rainbow bridge. It is really interesting when you start analyzing your life and the people you have come into contact with... VERY INTERESTING. But this is only my belief. We touch or are touched in our lives for a reason... something either we or others needed. What we do with it is another topic.

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He had more work to do. It's funny, Suzi. Sometimes when he was laying there sick, I'd look at him and think maybe I was just one of his many "assignments".....someone he came to stay with for a few years, to have an impact on my life, teach me something, and now he had to leave because he had other people he was supposed to help. I thought of him as an angelic messenger who possibly went throughout the Universe helping people and then moving on to his next mission. He was a very unusual cat, totally fearless and easy-going without a mean bone in his body. I will miss him so much, but from his perspective, I have released him to do whatever is next on his agenda. One strange thing about Oreo was that, in all the years I had him, he rarely said a word. I'll bet he only meowed 3 or 4 times

in all those years. He got attention and what he wanted just by the expression on his face.Gloria

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"maybe I was just one of his many "assignments"....."

Maybe that's what they mean about cats and 9 lives????????? Maybe cats have 9 seperate lives on earth and then move on and you were Oreo's last. That is why he was so special to you. He saved the best for last.

Shari

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it's ok when sweet memories are all we have left with not

too many regrets of what we might have done differently.

I have tons of sweet memories with Oreo and no regrets about anything else I could have done. I had total peace with that when he left. I have come to the conclusion that time of death may be written into the script of an individual's life and nothing can change that, except the person/animal who made that agreement. Everything I tried that was "supposed" to work, did basically nothing. The tumors just grew in spite of hardcore herbal treatements, mega-vitamins, DMSO applications, prayer, energy work, homepathy, regular meds etc. The vet gave him 3 high enemas to unclog his bowels which weren't moving, and she was amazed that nothing came out. He died the next day. It certainly brought me to my humble knees to realize I can't play God unless God is directing me to. If I was to learn something from a healing, then he would have been healed. Apparently my lesson was to learn to let go (a lifelong tough one for me), and this is how it was to happen. Same with your cat that disappeared. I had that happen twice. There's no explanation for it. Someday we may understand, but even if we don't, we just have to trust their was meaning behind it all. The message may be personal, and only we can decipher it by how the event impacted our lives.

Gloria

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Wow, you really did try everything. I always felt badly that I

hadn't figured out a treatment for the fleas that were bothering my

Tilly cat. I took her to the vet for a flea dip, and it just about

killed her --

I really did try everything imaginable with Oreo's cancer. I have a stockpile of herbal concoctions etc. that would fill a pharmacy. After the vet gave him the high enemas unsuccessfully, she had me give him lower bowel enemas with some liquid cascara sagrada she gave me...that stuff will move anybody's bowels. Nothing. I gave him human doses of IF#1. Nothing.

Fleas are tough. There are topicals remedies (but you have to very careful with

essential oils and cats. Many like tea tree are toxic to them). Even with all the herbs and natural remedies I have I've had to resort to Advantage. I have one cat that nearly died twice because of his severe allergy to flea bites and the Advantage literally saved his life. I don't use it often, but I have found nothing else that worked as well. Even my holistic vet suggested it. It's topical and it works for 30 days or maybe a little longer and is supposed to be much less harmful than any other flea remedies out there. It supposedly stays under the skin and doesn't go deep into the rest of the body. Like I said...fleas are really tough.

Gloria

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I've always gone for Advantage...I'll do a search, too....interesting

about your vet's guide mentioning it.

From my book Veterinarians' Guide to Natural Remedies For Cats:

Natural vs. Advantage... Goldstein, VMD

I have spoken to both holistic and conventional veterinarians about Advantage and similar products. The consensus is that these are relatively safe and a vast improvement over the older generation of products derived from nerve gas (organic phosphate poisons) that had overt, proven negative health effects.

My advice is to use natural approaches first, and, if they work, fine. But if you have a continuing problem, use Advantage, which appears to be the best of these products according to my research. etc. etc.....

When to Use the New Flea Products...Carvel Tiekert, DVM

Over the years I haven't found that natural products work well in the face of a severe flea problem. I have a huge number of satisfied clients using Advantage, Program or Frontline, the new pharamceutical antiflea medications. Many of these pet owners previously tried natural products and suffered through the constant warfare. The new products appear safe and effective. I have encountered only one animal who had a skin reaction. I don't push the pharmaceutical products because I don't think they are necessary in most cases. I suggest waiting until there is a problem before starting them. etc. etc.....as for collars, herbal or otherwise, they aren't effective in my experience.

She was my

"angel" although I think she may have gone on to human status!

I am always listening to metaphysical tapes, inspirational spiritual stuff etc. and always told Oreo he is going to be quite an evolved being the next time around. I wonder if he'll ever recall that wacky meditating crazy herbal lady he used to live with way back when ;-).

I'm glad I had him cremated instead of burying him. I now have 3 containers of ashes on my mantle.

Gloria

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It is wild how some cats are just cats...real cats...and then others

are something close to human.

This is true. When I describe some of the things Oreo did, people will say..oh, my cat did that too. But it wasn't just what he did. I can't put my finger on it. It was a look he had, a way of being that made him "different". I sensed it the very first time I met him in a no-kill shelter of 60 cats where I was volunteering. He looked at me from across the room and our eyes locked with a strong connection. I was helping out there and had absolutely no intentions of adopting another cat but I went home and couldn't stop thinking about him and went back and got him. I don't even know if I'd describe him as being "human". He was almost beyond that like a great teacher or silent mentor or something. Very mystical. I sometimes used to ask him "WHO are you "??????

Gloria