Guest guest Posted October 15, 2000 Report Share Posted October 15, 2000 I don't know what EAV is, but it sounds like you are describing the computerized systems that use acupuncture points & frequency resonance to determine those things. ly, I can't see how electrical resistance would indicate much. Frequency resonance, on the other hand, can determine all those & more things. jim luckower@... wrote: > > has anyone had experience with EAV testing devices or electrodermal devices? > they are used to measure bodily electrical resistance to test > biocompatibility of foods and supplements. also to test acupuncture points > for diagnosis of illness. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2000 Report Share Posted October 15, 2000 what is bicom? -arthur luckower Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2000 Report Share Posted October 15, 2000 Dear Luck, I was diagnosed 15 years ago as celiac from Vega testing. I had Bicom treatments for it 3 years ago. Quite effective. Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh URL: http://www.plasmafire.com email: saul@... " The problems of today cannot be solved using the same thinking that created them " . - Einstein EAV testing > has anyone had experience with EAV testing devices or electrodermal devices? > they are used to measure bodily electrical resistance to test > biocompatibility of foods and supplements. also to test acupuncture points > for diagnosis of illness. > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2000 Report Share Posted October 15, 2000 Saul Pressman wrote: > > Dear Luck, > > I was diagnosed 15 years ago as celiac from Vega testing. > > I had Bicom treatments for it 3 years ago. Quite effective. Hi Saul, That really caught my attention. Do you now consider yourself cured from celiac's and can you eat wheat/gluten freely if you so choose? Can you give a brief explanation of " Bicom " treatments? Thanks! Sharon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2000 Report Share Posted October 15, 2000 Dear Sharon, I wouldn't say I am cured, because I cannot eat wheat products with impunity. However, I can 'cheat' a couple of times a week and not pay the price. Bicom is Vega testing carried to a therapeutic end. It senses the energy in each meridian, then counters energies found to be out of alignment with an opposite signal, rechecking this many times per second and adjusting as it goes. The net result is a reprogramming of the system, and lessening of allergic reactions. I really should go and get another series of treatments (once a week for two hours) to complete the therapy, but I have a busy schedule, and I don't have as much impetus, since I don't have as much of a problem. Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh URL: http://www.plasmafire.com email: saul@... " The problems of today cannot be solved using the same thinking that created them " . - Einstein Re: EAV testing > Saul Pressman wrote: > > > > Dear Luck, > > > > I was diagnosed 15 years ago as celiac from Vega testing. > > > > I had Bicom treatments for it 3 years ago. Quite effective. > > Hi Saul, > > That really caught my attention. Do you now consider yourself cured from > celiac's and can you eat wheat/gluten freely if you so choose? > > Can you give a brief explanation of " Bicom " treatments? > > Thanks! > > Sharon > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2000 Report Share Posted October 16, 2000 I am a EAV technician and I personally can attest to its usefullness. Depending on the condition it is spectacular. Anything acute or recent can be helped in hours. Long standing condition may takë a while. Remember that the body is electrical and when the energy reads high there is something going on and if its low the body is shutting down it that particular area. The ideal is balance. I have helped people overcome the chickenpox (adults that is) in hours. My mom broke out with the shingles, once diagnosed got her over the acute stage in 3 days. One of my clients had hayfever for 20 years, this is the first year she did not suffer from it. Another had arthritis and was told by her doctor that she would eventually be in a wheelchair. It took a while to detox her but she is now painfree. There are many other examples. EAV falls under the category of energy medicine. I like the fact that it combines ancient chinese wisdom with ancient europen wisdom (homeopathy) through 20th century technology (computer). le >luckower@... wrote: > > > > has anyone had experience with EAV testing devices or electrodermal >devices? > > they are used to measure bodily electrical resistance to test > > biocompatibility of foods and supplements. also to test acupuncture >points > > for diagnosis of illness. > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2000 Report Share Posted October 16, 2000 I am a EAV technician and I personally can attest to its usefullness. Depending on the condition it is spectacular. Anything acute or recent can be helped in hours. Long standing condition may takë a while. Remember that the body is electrical and when the energy reads high there is something going on and if its low the body is shutting down it that particular area. The ideal is balance. I have helped people overcome the chickenpox (adults that is) in hours. My mom broke out with the shingles, once diagnosed got her over the acute stage in 3 days. One of my clients had hayfever for 20 years, this is the first year she did not suffer from it. Another had arthritis and was told by her doctor that she would eventually be in a wheelchair. It took a while to detox her but she is now painfree. There are many other examples. EAV falls under the category of energy medicine. I like the fact that it combines ancient chinese wisdom with ancient europen wisdom (homeopathy) through 20th century technology (computer). le >luckower@... wrote: > > > > has anyone had experience with EAV testing devices or electrodermal >devices? > > they are used to measure bodily electrical resistance to test > > biocompatibility of foods and supplements. also to test acupuncture >points > > for diagnosis of illness. > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2000 Report Share Posted October 16, 2000 Saul, That's a fantastic piece of news about celiac disease. I wonder how many celiac's are aware of this? Very few, I'm sure! I had spent a lot of time researching CD as I'm pretty sure I may have a gluten or wheat 'sensitivity', not CD, thank goodness. Somewhere on the net, in the midst of my research, I ran across the story of a man claiming total cure of CD after ingesting massive doses of papaya enzymes for 3 months. Just one story! Always willing to experiment, I got some organic papaya from the website of a " Papaya " (if I remember correctly). At one of my appt's with the infamous " DR. Greed " , he tested it with his Voll (or Vega, not sure now)and it showed I was allergic to papaya. So much for that experiment! I sent all the rest of my papaya to Vilik! Hey, Vilik---you around? You never said if it did anything for you! Sharon Saul Pressman wrote: > > Dear Sharon, > > I wouldn't say I am cured, because I cannot eat wheat products with > impunity. > > However, I can 'cheat' a couple of times a week and not pay the price. > > Bicom is Vega testing carried to a therapeutic end. It senses the energy in > each meridian, then counters energies found to be out of alignment with an > opposite signal, rechecking this many times per second and adjusting as it > goes. > > The net result is a reprogramming of the system, and lessening of allergic > reactions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2000 Report Share Posted October 16, 2000 GAbrielle, Could you, in 90 words or less ;-) give an idea of what EAV is? What principles it works on? jim le Kayser wrote: > > I am a EAV technician and I personally can attest to its usefullness. > Depending on the condition it is spectacular. Anything acute or recent can > be helped in hours. Long standing condition may takë a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2000 Report Share Posted October 21, 2000 Hi Jim and list Sorry it took so long to answer, I am quiet busy at the moment. EAV testing uses the end point of the acupuncture meridians on the hand and feet to measure the energy in the organs connected to that particular meridian. The client holds a rod (to ground them) and the technician holds a probe to press on the points. The probe then sends 1/2 volt of electricity (not detectable) which travels down the path of the meridian to the target organ. The rpobe is attached to a computer which registers the value in a digital form. After getting the values of all the points you decide which area is a priority, generally the lowest values are the most urgent. From there you go to different screens to find the toxins affecting the particular organ that you work on. The engergetic value is then stored in a tank and the process is repeated a few times. Toxins generally are viruses, bacteria, miasms, environmental toxins, chemicals, pesticides etc etc. After finding some toxins you are then able to measure how the elimination of these toxins would balance the organs. When working on one organ it generally works on all other systems since all is connected. The process may need to be repeated with other organs until all are balanced. Then the energetic frequency is then encrypted in a detox formulae or alcohol and distilled water. I always give my clients an herbal formula to flush out the toxins. A protocol usually takes 4 to 6 weeks. Usually the the test needs to be repeated, as it is like peeling an onion and different layers of toxicity will surface. Hope I explained it for all to understand le >From: Jim Lambert <jlambert@...> >Reply-oxyplusegroups >oxyplusegroups >Subject: Re: EAV testing >Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 20:36:27 -0400 > >GAbrielle, > >Could you, in 90 words or less ;-) give an idea of what EAV is? What >principles it works on? > >jim > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2001 Report Share Posted July 10, 2001 EAV means " Electroacupuncture According to Voll " Voll and other parted from the TCM (Traditional Chinese Medicine), and used more the Electronics for diagnosis and treatment. I own an Accumatic machine that tests the acupuncture points at fingers and toes, and produces a graphic that can be interpreted and diagnoses and treats at the same time the " unbalance " of the meridians. At he end of the fingers there are acupuncture points that can tell you if the meridian is balanced or not and with certain stimuli you can balance and cure almost instantly the disease that is afflicting the patient. sometimes are necessary several sessions, and sometimes the patients do not respond accordingly. In acupuncture, the acupuncturist is the main part for the cure of the disease. Using the adequate combination of acupuncture points, for the disease, can be the difference between success and failure... as an example, here in Mexicali there are 5 acupuncturists, and all of them uses the point " hunger " for the control of the obesity... what a mistake! This point as almost all acupuncture points try to get the body to a balanced state, but obesity is not excessive hunger, mostly is an " addiction " . The point lung and brain are used in free detoxification clinics in New York for the treatment of drug addiction, the patients reports no desire to use drugs with this points.. and you must ask: What is the relation between drug addicts and obesity? The relation is that BOTH are addictions, I now a lot of patients that tell me: Doctor, when I come back from my work, I am starving, I eat and my hunger disappears, I go to watch T.V. and in 15 minutes I am walking to the fridge to see what is inside for eat... I am not hungry, just addict to food. With the use of Lung and/or brain points my patients lost every week say 5-9 pounds (Of course following a diet). EAV testing has anyone had experience with EAV testing devices or electrodermal devices? they are used to measure bodily electrical resistance to test biocompatibility of foods and supplements. also to test acupuncture points for diagnosis of illness. OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Este mensaje esta certificado No virus en el. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.256 / Virus Database: 129 - Release Date: 5/31/2001 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Este mensaje esta certificado No virus en el. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.256 / Virus Database: 129 - Release Date: 5/31/2001 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2001 Report Share Posted July 10, 2001 EAV means " Electroacupuncture According to Voll " Voll and other parted from the TCM (Traditional Chinese Medicine), and used more the Electronics for diagnosis and treatment. I own an Accumatic machine that tests the acupuncture points at fingers and toes, and produces a graphic that can be interpreted and diagnoses and treats at the same time the " unbalance " of the meridians. At he end of the fingers there are acupuncture points that can tell you if the meridian is balanced or not and with certain stimuli you can balance and cure almost instantly the disease that is afflicting the patient. sometimes are necessary several sessions, and sometimes the patients do not respond accordingly. In acupuncture, the acupuncturist is the main part for the cure of the disease. Using the adequate combination of acupuncture points, for the disease, can be the difference between success and failure... as an example, here in Mexicali there are 5 acupuncturists, and all of them uses the point " hunger " for the control of the obesity... what a mistake! This point as almost all acupuncture points try to get the body to a balanced state, but obesity is not excessive hunger, mostly is an " addiction " . The point lung and brain are used in free detoxification clinics in New York for the treatment of drug addiction, the patients reports no desire to use drugs with this points.. and you must ask: What is the relation between drug addicts and obesity? The relation is that BOTH are addictions, I now a lot of patients that tell me: Doctor, when I come back from my work, I am starving, I eat and my hunger disappears, I go to watch T.V. and in 15 minutes I am walking to the fridge to see what is inside for eat... I am not hungry, just addict to food. With the use of Lung and/or brain points my patients lost every week say 5-9 pounds (Of course following a diet). EAV testing has anyone had experience with EAV testing devices or electrodermal devices? they are used to measure bodily electrical resistance to test biocompatibility of foods and supplements. also to test acupuncture points for diagnosis of illness. OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Este mensaje esta certificado No virus en el. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.256 / Virus Database: 129 - Release Date: 5/31/2001 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Este mensaje esta certificado No virus en el. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.256 / Virus Database: 129 - Release Date: 5/31/2001 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2001 Report Share Posted July 10, 2001 EAV means " Electroacupuncture According to Voll " Voll and other parted from the TCM (Traditional Chinese Medicine), and used more the Electronics for diagnosis and treatment. I own an Accumatic machine that tests the acupuncture points at fingers and toes, and produces a graphic that can be interpreted and diagnoses and treats at the same time the " unbalance " of the meridians. At he end of the fingers there are acupuncture points that can tell you if the meridian is balanced or not and with certain stimuli you can balance and cure almost instantly the disease that is afflicting the patient. sometimes are necessary several sessions, and sometimes the patients do not respond accordingly. In acupuncture, the acupuncturist is the main part for the cure of the disease. Using the adequate combination of acupuncture points, for the disease, can be the difference between success and failure... as an example, here in Mexicali there are 5 acupuncturists, and all of them uses the point " hunger " for the control of the obesity... what a mistake! This point as almost all acupuncture points try to get the body to a balanced state, but obesity is not excessive hunger, mostly is an " addiction " . The point lung and brain are used in free detoxification clinics in New York for the treatment of drug addiction, the patients reports no desire to use drugs with this points.. and you must ask: What is the relation between drug addicts and obesity? The relation is that BOTH are addictions, I now a lot of patients that tell me: Doctor, when I come back from my work, I am starving, I eat and my hunger disappears, I go to watch T.V. and in 15 minutes I am walking to the fridge to see what is inside for eat... I am not hungry, just addict to food. With the use of Lung and/or brain points my patients lost every week say 5-9 pounds (Of course following a diet). EAV testing has anyone had experience with EAV testing devices or electrodermal devices? they are used to measure bodily electrical resistance to test biocompatibility of foods and supplements. also to test acupuncture points for diagnosis of illness. OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Este mensaje esta certificado No virus en el. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.256 / Virus Database: 129 - Release Date: 5/31/2001 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Este mensaje esta certificado No virus en el. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.256 / Virus Database: 129 - Release Date: 5/31/2001 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2005 Report Share Posted November 3, 2005 Cara wrote: > Dietrich, that's very interesting. I take it this means you know (or are studying) how to use > scalar waves to reverse the negative effects of electrosmog on people? Via > electroacupuncture techniques? Electroacupuncure is a method of diagnosis, where you can measure the health of individual organs and bodily functions in realtime. You can then test remedies (nutritional supplements, EMF devices, etc.) and see if they counteract any problems or bring the body to a greater state of health. My nutritionist uses this to determine what supplements my body is currently in need of. She also uses this to determine that Inositol was the " antidote " to my negative reaction to my new ID badge at work. The biggest problem with this method of testing is that you still have to me smart enough to have the correct remedy on-hand, and know to try it. Also, it really only works best on current issues, so you may find that when you leave the doctor's office and go back home or to work, you really need something else to stay in balance in that environment. However, it's still a better method of diagnosis than many more commonly used methods, in my opinion... Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 > Marc are you asked to bring all supplements and devises > you are using, or just try out new ones?? I bring in whatever supplements and devices I want. She tries to make all the meridians balance with what I bring in, but if that doesn't work, then she starts trying stuff that she has on her shelves. But of course, there are thousands of supplements in the world, and you can't be tested on them all in a one-hour appointment, so some educated guesses have to be made by me about what to bring in, and also by her on what supplements on her shelf should be tried. And like I said, whatever combination of supplements and devices that work in her office are not necessarily going to work at my home or place of work, but at least its a good starting point for me to experiment further. Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 > was very sensitive back then and her method worked fine) that without > the supplements i would have needed a load of the homeopathic remedies > she tested with, while only two remained when testing it with my tachyon > and preferred supplements.. Oh yes, one more thing... Certainly the goal is to minimize the number of supplements you need to take, or perhaps the cost of the supplements. However, different practitioners vary in their ability to minimize supplements. One practitioner had me taking 30 supplements all at once, so in frustration I went to someone else who found an equivalent solution with 6 supplements. I suspect that if we were testing every supplement and food known to mankind, we could probably get it down to 1 or 2 things, but 6-8 will have to do for now... :-) Also, I have found that when I'm tested with a Springlife Polarizer placed on the testing pad, that the number of supplements needed is smaller than without it. Since there is no recurring cost for the Springlife Polarizer, in the long run this is cheaper than buying more supplements. Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 Anyone use EAV to assist with identifying food and chemical sensitivities? If so how accurate was it for you? Thanks. Sent from my iPod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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