Guest guest Posted November 14, 2005 Report Share Posted November 14, 2005 ROFL... but Gayla, if there would be a "crisis"... or an epidemic or whatever, what are the tomatoes going to do for you??? SuziGayla <goatclearing@...> wrote: Just came in from the garden pulling out the tomatoes that are finished for the year and planting garlic and onions. This got me thinking - if I could only grow three things, parsley would still be first, but tomatoes would be in there for sure. I can buy various herbs, but not home grown tomatoes. Parsley, tomatoes, garlic. FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2005 Report Share Posted November 14, 2005 Ah, different rules. Ok, if there is a disaster, there will be no electricity to pump water. Growing would be limited in this area to very intensive growing and short season plants. Epidemic would be different. More thinking. Gayla Always Enough RanchAcampo, CaliforniaCheck out our SALE PAGE at www.bouncinghoofs.com/alwaysenoughhobbysale.htmlA day without Bill Barnhill is like a day without sunshine!goatclearing@... http://coloredboers.home.att.net/always.htmlNo one ever gets far unless he accomplishes the impossible at least once a day. Elbert Hubbard ----- Original Message ----- From: Suzanne health Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2005 5:35 PM Subject: Re: growing only three ROFL... but Gayla, if there would be a "crisis"... or an epidemic or whatever, what are the tomatoes going to do for you??? SuziGayla <goatclearing@...> wrote: Just came in from the garden pulling out the tomatoes that are finished for the year and planting garlic and onions. This got me thinking - if I could only grow three things, parsley would still be first, but tomatoes would be in there for sure. I can buy various herbs, but not home grown tomatoes. Parsley, tomatoes, garlic. FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. Dial Broadband has arrived Nationwide! Up to 5 times faster than traditional dialup connections from $13.33/month! See the demo for yourself at www.BigValley.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2005 Report Share Posted November 14, 2005 Back to basics - parsley, garlic and I now had better add echinacea for plagues and disasters. I have it growing for beauty, not disaster. That's my story and I'm sticking to it! Glad I made your day. Gayla Always Enough RanchAcampo, CaliforniaCheck out our SALE PAGE at www.bouncinghoofs.com/alwaysenoughhobbysale.htmlA day without Bill Barnhill is like a day without sunshine!goatclearing@... http://coloredboers.home.att.net/always.htmlNo one ever gets far unless he accomplishes the impossible at least once a day. Elbert Hubbard ----- Original Message ----- From: Suzanne health Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 1:21 PM Subject: Re: growing only three I want you to think of 3 items you would want to have on hand all the time (or most of it).. This is not hard Gayla... rofl... You're making my day here at work... SuziGayla <goatclearing@...> wrote: Ah, different rules. Ok, if there is a disaster, there will be no electricity to pump water. Growing would be limited in this area to very intensive growing and short season plants. Epidemic would be different. More thinking. Gayla Always Enough RanchAcampo, CaliforniaCheck out our SALE PAGE at www.bouncinghoofs.com/alwaysenoughhobbysale.htmlA day without Bill Barnhill is like a day without sunshine!goatclearing@... http://coloredboers.home.att.net/always.htmlNo one ever gets far unless he accomplishes the impossible at least once a day. Elbert Hubbard ----- Original Message ----- From: Suzanne health Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2005 5:35 PM Subject: Re: growing only three ROFL... but Gayla, if there would be a "crisis"... or an epidemic or whatever, what are the tomatoes going to do for you??? SuziGayla <goatclearing@...> wrote: Just came in from the garden pulling out the tomatoes that are finished for the year and planting garlic and onions. This got me thinking - if I could only grow three things, parsley w ould still be first, but tomatoes would be in there for sure. I can buy various herbs, but not home grown tomatoes. Parsley, tomatoes, garlic. FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. Dial Broadband has arrived Nationwide! Up to 5 times faster than traditional dialup connections from $13.33/month! See the demo for yourself at www.BigValley.net Suzi What is a weed? A plant whose virtues have not yet been discovered. health/ www.onegrp.com/?mamanott organic cosmetics http://suziesgoats.wholefoodfarmacy.com/ FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. Dial Broadband has arrived Nationwide! Up to 5 times faster than traditional dialup connections from $13.33/month! See the demo for yourself at www.BigValley.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2005 Report Share Posted November 16, 2005 Hmmm, this is a tuff one, only 3 plants to grow. I will asume we still have access to the woods and fields, wild places to draw upon for a wide variety of herbs. Thus I want garlic (doesn't grow wild where I'm at), cayenne, and lobelia until I figure out what it looks like and where it grows on it's own. I'm partial to a comfrey patch and might do that instead of the lobelia. Actually, my comfrey is doing well and the lobelia I tried growing withered and died so yes, I'll go with the comfrey especially as I can eat it too. Trying to seperate wild plants from cultivated plants is tricky when it comes to herbs. Is spreading burdock seeds cultivation? Is transplanting mint down by a stream? I think part of the joy of herbalism is interacting with plants in the enviroment and playing caretaker/gardener on the greater landscape. This thread reminds me I need to become familiar with wilderness equivilents for some of my standbyes that don't grow wild locally. For example, I don't know what to use for a good stimulant like cayenne. There's a wild ginger but I've been shown that once and I'm not sure on where it grows and it's characteristics. What takes the role of echinacea? Something that has been hammered into me is the earth provides all the plants we need for the problems in that location. Thus it's out there, just takes some digging to find it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2005 Report Share Posted November 16, 2005 No you don't have access to the woods and fields... you only get 3 herbs, food, whatever..prayerfulmantis <prayerfulmantis@...> wrote: Hmmm, this is a tuff one, only 3 plants to grow. I will asumewe still have access to the woods and fields, wild places to draw uponfor a wide variety of herbs. Thus I want garlic (doesn't grow wildwhere I'm at), cayenne, and lobelia until I figure out what it lookslike and where it grows on it's own. I'm partial to a comfrey patchand might do that instead of the lobelia. Actually, my comfrey isdoing well and the lobelia I tried growing withered and died so yes,I'll go with the comfrey especially as I can eat it too.Trying to seperate wild plants from cultivated plants is trickywhen it comes to herbs. Is spreading burdock seeds cultivation? Istransplanting mint down by a stream? I think part of the joy ofherbalism is interacting with plants in the enviroment and playingcaretaker/gardener on the greater landscape.This thread reminds me I need to become familiar with wildernessequivilents for some of my standbyes that don't grow wild locally. For example, I don't know what to use for a good stimulant likecayenne. There's a wild ginger but I've been shown that once and I'mnot sure on where it grows and it's characteristics. What takes therole of echinacea? Something that has been hammered into me is theearth provides all the plants we need for the problems in thatlocation. Thus it's out there, just takes some digging to find it. FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2005 Report Share Posted November 16, 2005 Yikes, only 3. Well, if that's the case one is going to be acorns from oaks. Tree crops have a high production per area unit and acorns have been a staple crop for many traditional peoples around the world. Be boring eating acorn mush cakes all the time but boring food is better than no food. Oak medicine is pretty powerful as an astringent. Another is going to be a grass grain of some type, I'ld go with oats because that is what I'm familiar with. From a stockpile of grain you can get food, sprouts, oat/wheat grass juice, or plant it. Russian cosmonaughts onboard the Mirr space station grew wheat grass in a cabinent as part of their diet. One american who stayed on board the Mirr for a few months freaked out and got quite depressed eating wheat grass and caviar. Guess he wanted his frozen irraditated pizzas. The third either dandelions or kale, both are super rich nutrient sources. I was thinking of an oil rich seed plant such as flax or hemp but acorns have some oils in them so I'll go for the greens. The nice thing about the dandelions is I wouldn't have to keep replanting them and I'ld have lots of coffee drink to sip all winter while enjoying the acorn mush meals. Second thought, screw the coffee and go for the dandelion wine. In the meantime I'ld be welding together an ATEAM/McGyver contraption to get out of the 3 plant only death zone and to a wilderness area with more food and animal resources. NORMAL 3 Herbs for medicine answer: Dandelions, plantain, grass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2005 Report Share Posted November 16, 2005 I can see you really put some thought into this... you're curing and eating too.. Suziprayerfulmantis <prayerfulmantis@...> wrote: Yikes, only 3. Well, if that's the case one is going to be acorns from oaks. Tree crops have a high production per area unit and acorns have been a staple crop for many traditional peoples around the world. Be boring eating acorn mush cakes all the time but boring food is better than no food. Oak medicine is pretty powerful as an astringent.Another is going to be a grass grain of some type, I'ld go with oats because that is what I'm familiar with. From a stockpile of grain you can get food, sprouts, oat/wheat grass juice, or plant it. Russian cosmonaughts onboard the Mirr space station grew wheat grass in a cabinent as part of their diet. One american who stayed on board the Mirr for a few months freaked out and got quite depressed eating wheat grass and caviar. Guess he wanted his frozen irraditated pizzas.The third either dandelions or kale, both are super rich nutrient sources. I was thinking of an oil rich seed plant such as flax or hemp but acorns have some oils in them so I'll go for the greens. The nice thing about the dandelions is I wouldn't have to keep replanting them and I'ld have lots of coffee drink to sip all winter while enjoying the acorn mush meals. Second thought, screw the coffee and go for the dandelion wine. In the meantime I'ld be welding together an ATEAM/McGyver contraption to get out of the 3 plant only death zone and to a wilderness area with more food and animal resources. NORMAL 3 Herbs for medicine answer: Dandelions, plantain, grass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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