Re: stomach pains

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Hi , Try catnip and fennel or parsley seed, caraway seed, rhubarb, cinnamon, sugar, essence of peppermint or peppermint leaves and water.This was a formula by Dr. .. I don't have the amounts.. I would use what you have in equal parts and make a tea. It isn't colic I assume?? Could it be growing pains? SuziRainbow Egret <egret.09@...> wrote: Hi All My oldest 8 yo Dylan has had pains in the tummy since Sunday night. Had at doctor and casualty today because seems too long for a bug worried about appendix but doctors don't think it is that because

his tummy is soft. Not got diarehea much and only vomitted a 3 times twice Sunday night and once the next day I think. Any ideas what it could be and what I can give him to relieve it. He is still doing poo in nappy I wonder if he is holding in too much. Had 2 nappies today so 2 bowel movements but if it is a bug and he is not going as often as he should because of having to put a nappy on that could actually prolong it and make it worse. Pains are around his navel and on side. Wasn't too tender or sore when doctors pressed it and said tummy soft so don't think anything major.

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No, I don't think they are quite that painful... how about slippery elm? can you get that? You can make a gruel.. Slippery Elm (Digestive, Intestinal helps relieve digestive discomfort and provides mucilage to soothe the digestive tract. It grows widely throughout North America and is also known by the names Red Elm, Moose Elm and Indian Elm. The plant contains mucilage, a long chain of sugars (polysaccharides) that make a slippery substance when combined with water. This mucilage is believed to soothe the digestive system. Slippery elm is also rich in nutrients and is easy to digest, making it an excellent

food during times of digestive discomfort. It can be made into a gruel. In times of famine, early American settlers used it as a survival food; Washington and his troops survived for several days on slippery elm gruel during the bitter winter at Valley Forge. Each capsule contains 360 mg slippery elm. rainbowegret <egret.09@...> wrote: I don't think so that's what the doctor at the hospital said about not doubting he has some sort of colicy pains but I think he is in too much pain.He hasn't eaten for 3 days and is very dark under the eyes.Can you get growing pains like that? This is the fourth day it is 9:15 a.m. he has just woken up and is still hurting but is afraid if he eats he will be sick.

Carl is peeling him some grapes to make them easier to eat. See how he goes.Will see what I can get to make the tea.

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If my boy were in that kind of pain I would get a second opinion. As an RN, I have seen doctors misdiagnose before. You might take him to a different doctor or the ER. Don't let this go on too long, please.

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>It isn't colic I assume?? Could it be growing pains?Hi SuziI don't think so that's what the doctor at the hospital said about not doubting he has some sort of colicy pains but I think he is in too much pain.He hasn't eaten for 3 days and is very dark under the eyes.Can you get growing pains like that? This is the fourth day it is 9:15 a.m. he has just woken up and is still hurting but is afraid if he eats he will be sick. Carl is peeling him some grapes to make them easier to eat. See how he goes.Will see what I can get to make the tea.Thanks Suzi :-)Tracey

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.... how about slippery elm? can you get that?

> You can make a gruel..

Yes I can get Slippery Elm Powder at the supermarket in the health

food section.

What is a gruel?

Tracey

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He is eating the grapes and asked for more. I think too when young

ones get sick and it goes on they fear starting to eat again so as not

to make themselves sick.

Have to get him over that and get his strength built up again.

Tracey

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A thin watery porridge. Slippery Elm is rich in nutrients and is easy to digest, making it an excellent food during times of digestive discomfort This herb is also recommended for those who are wasting away, failing to thrive, and losing weight. It is so safe, Slippery Elm can be added to baby food as a nutritive, and is also good for babies who cannot digest milk. The primary chemical constituents of Slippery Elm include mucilage (galactose), starch, tannins, calcium, vanadium, and zinc. The herb works with the body to draw out impurities and toxins, assisting with the healing of all body parts. Slippery Elm's coating action soothes the irritated tissues of the intestines, colon, urinary tract, and stomach ulcers. Slippery Elm is also beneficial in alleviating inflammation caused by arthritis, and for soothing sore throats. The common name Slippery Elm includes the species Ulmus

fulva (traditional Slippery Elm), which is used interchangeably with Ulmus rubra.rainbowegret <egret.09@...> wrote: --- Yes I can get Slippery Elm Powder at the supermarket in the health food section.What is a gruel?

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> You might take him to a different

> doctor or the ER.

Hi Virginia

He has seen a doctor at the medical service and was in casualty (ER)

for 4 1/2 hours yesterday.

It was the doctor in emergency that didn't seem concerned at all.

Because my boy is tough and doesn't cry out and pretty much suffered

in pain they assume it is not serious. Plus when he found out he was

unimmunized judgement is immediately passed.

They don't even have a peadatrician there. You have to wait hours for

them to finish their private practise for them to show up at the

hospital.

I took him to a herbalist etc today and she has given him some stuff

to try. He still has some pain but it is moving and he has picked up

in himself a lot.

I truly feel even though he has been using his bowels he has some

kind of blockage.

Don't worry I am not going to let it go on if I think he is in danger

we only live down the road from the hospital. Will see how he goes.

Thanks for your concern :-)

Tracey

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I haven't been able to follow this thread real closely, but

just want to add -- has the dr. checked for ulcers? Since ulcers

are generally caused by the H. pylori bacteria, wouldn't you think

it's possible even a child can get them?

My 22 yr old daughter just went through a bout of stomach pains

and nausea -- her regular dr gave her meds for stomach acid and

felt her nausea might be an expected reaction with her job (caregiver

in a home for handicapped; but as DD says, she's been wiping butts

for 4 years now and it never bothered her before...). After several

appointments with the doc, she saw a nurse practioner who tested

for H pylori -- bingo. So now she's on 2 types of antibiotics.

Back when she was in third grade, she used to get morning stomach

pains too -- sometimes so bad she'd have to come home. Pains didn't last

long each day. Looking back now on it, I don't recall that ulcers were ever

considered then either, and I did bring her in to the doctor with it.

Sometimes it's easy to overlook the simpler, more obvious possibilities.

(As in the case of a friend who went through thousands

of dollars worth of tests, only to figure out at home on her own that she's

gluten intolerant. hmmmmph.)

Hope you've figured this out by now.

M

>I don't think so that's what the doctor at the hospital said about

>not doubting he has some sort of colicy pains but I think he is in

>too much pain.

>

>He hasn't eaten for 3 days and is very dark under the eyes.

>

>Can you get growing pains like that?

>

>This is the fourth day it is 9:15 a.m. he has just woken up and is

>still hurting but is afraid if he eats he will be sick. Carl is

>peeling him some grapes to make them easier to eat. See how he goes.

>

>Will see what I can get to make the tea.

>

>Thanks Suzi :-)

>Tracey

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> Does anyone have a thought on

> what could be causing these pains?

Do you have your gallbladder?

Lynn S.

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--- <amandaplease@...> wrote:

> For about the last 4 days after I eat something I have this shooting

> pain right in the middle of my belly when I try to breathe deeply

> and it lasts quite a long time. I also have had off and on heartburn

> and sometimes I feel like I just have a constant bubble in my

> stomach that won't move. I take enzymes and hcl with all meals and

> the only things differently I have eaten are a couple of meals with

> beans, which we don't do very often, and a couple of breakfasts of

> oatmeal, which I had not done for a few months.

,

When I ocassionally get indigestion after meals, I take a couple of

ginger capsules and it has always settled my stomach. You can also

add ginger powder to your food if you find that it helps.

If it doesn't help, Lynn may be right - it could be your gallbladder.

According to this article on the WAPF web site:

The Long Hollow Tube: A Primer on the Digestive System

http://www.westonaprice.org/moderndiseases/digestion_primer.html

" Raw cream and raw butter are said to be excellent remedies for

gallstones. For bladder and gall stones, said Paracelsus, 'There is

nothing so much to recommend as butter and olives.' "

Also Tom Cowan:

Ask the Doctor About Gallstones

http://www.westonaprice.org/askdoctor/gallstones.html

" So what should you do? First, do not believe that your gall bladder

is diseased! Second, give your body what it needs, in this case more

cholesterol. Once your body is convinced that you are serious and will

provide it with a steady stream of cholesterol, which it desperately

needs to stay alive, it will give up the flawed strategy of storing

extra, the stones will dissolve and you will be well again. I know of

two people who adopted this strategy, and within a year their stones

completely dissolved. "

Good luck,

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Another option besides gallbladder is a hiatal hernia.

http://www.joyfullivingservices.com/hiatalhernia.html My dh has one of

those and your symptoms sound like his - especially when it's accompanied by

heartburn.

Sharon

On 10/9/06, <amandaplease@...> wrote:

>

> For about

> the last 4 days after I eat something I have this shooting pain right in

> the

> middle of my belly when I try to breathe deeply and it lasts quite a long

> time. I also have had off and on heartburn and sometimes I feel like I

> just

> have a constant bubble in my stomach that won't move.

>

> amanda

>