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Debby,

I did the same thing the other day. It was the week after I had moved. I had not slept well and was extremely tired and to the point of exhaustion (Teary eyed and all that). I went to the post office I use to go to every day and was talking on the cell phone with my sister and realized I didn't know where I was. I just stopped and cried. She said put the phone down, get yourself together and do not drive any further until you stop crying. Boy was she right. I was a basket case. It is frightening. Then I went through the who's going to take care of me when I can't thing. Being a single Mom of 2 kids 25 (Married and still in school, Dental School) and a 19 year old son, this is a big concern of mine. I have a large supportive family and know that they will all help but I some times feel such a burden to them. They all have their own families and didn't sign up for me too.

I stop all this pity stuff and just thank God that I have them. So many people do not have this support.

Enough said. It is frightening. I just hang in there and keep hearing Cheryl and Randy tell me that after the transplant the fogginess goes away and when you see Randy return to a life that is so full and productive you have to know that it's true.

Hang in there. Lost and driving around and around the post office here in Virginia.

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Hi Debby:

Yes, that is a very scary thought.... Are you taking lactose? Cliff has been foggy brained, too. It is so scary-- he rambles on alot. And , we both get stressed alot. He is doing much better, as he is taking the lactose more often. He said, "that he has been realizing this, but, didn't want to tell anyone. He seemed like he was intoxicated.

I am glad that he is back to normal.

Hope you are feeling better these days. Take care.

Gaynel & Cliff

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Yes, it is a scary thought... Yes, we need to keep thinking of all the good things Cheryl tells us. What an inspiration she is, and Randy!!!!!

Yes, you are lucky you have supportive family with you. And , we need to think of the good afterwards. Waiting is the worse part.

Cliff has sister in Florida, don't hear from her much- although, she has written twice. Cliff's brother isn't much support. All my family lives in other states. But, they are as supprtive as they can be.

The group is a huge support for me!!! Thanks to all of you.

Cliff has alot of great friends in our favor.

Have a good evening to all of you.

Gaynel & Cliff

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Forgive my ignorance, but outside of drinking milk, how do you get

lactose? No, I don’t take it! Maybe that is part of this big

time fog!

Debby

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Hi Debby:

Yes, that is a very scary

thought.... Are you taking lactose? Cliff has been foggy brained,

too. It is so scary-- he rambles on alot. And , we both get

stressed alot. He is doing much better, as he is taking the lactose more

often. He said, " that he has been realizing this, but, didn't want

to tell anyone. He seemed like he was intoxicated.

I am glad that he is back to

normal.

Hope you are feeling better

these days. Take care.

Gaynel & Cliff

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Hi Debby:

Cliff's doctor gave us a perscription for Lactulose- , I shad wrong spelling. It is called lactulose solution. Ask your Dr. if you can take it... I'm surprize he doesn't tell you about this med. It is to make you have bowel movements. Although, Cliff is regular... This lactulpse, gets rid of the bile, ammonia . instead, of going to the brain.

Make sure and ask your Dr. about it. The Dr. wanted him to go at least 3-4 times daily (bathroom).

I hope you can take this. Cliff doesn't like the taste. But, one day, I had a small taste . Didn't think it was bad at all. But, it does work.

Take care, and let us know how you make out! OK!

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Thank you for this explaination! I will ask my doctor when I see

her next time.

Debby

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Hi Debby:

Cliff's doctor gave us a

perscription for Lactulose- , I shad wrong spelling. It is called lactulose

solution. Ask your Dr. if you can take it... I'm surprize he doesn't tell

you about this med. It is to make you have bowel movements. Although,

Cliff is regular... This lactulpse, gets rid of the bile, ammonia .

instead, of going to the brain.

Make sure and ask your Dr.

about it. The Dr. wanted him to go at least 3-4 times daily (bathroom).

I hope you can take

this. Cliff doesn't like the taste. But, one day, I had a small

taste . Didn't think it was bad at all. But, it does work.

Take care, and let us know

how you make out! OK!

Gaynel & Cliff

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Hi Gang!

I went to ER today after I found blood in my urine. They are treating me for bacterial infections. My doctor said okay to Cipro. I asked 95 times how autoimmune friendly was it. I was distressed cause my two liver counts had doubled since the last test, AST = 87, ALT = 152. They tell me the Cipro will make me sicker before I get better. This was a hard sell. I know so many of you have had accounts much harder than this, but I would be lying if I said I wasnt just a little depressed.

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…I think you will be OK. I have

taken Cipro several times and it has been OK….you will do OK on it.

Keep your chin up….but sometimes it IS hard! It is really good to

hear from you!

Debby

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Hi Gang!

I went to ER today after I found blood in my urine. They are treating me

for bacterial infections. My doctor said okay to Cipro. I asked 95

times how autoimmune friendly was it. I was distressed cause my two liver

counts had doubled since the last test, AST = 87, ALT = 152. They

tell me the Cipro will make me sicker before I get better. This was a

hard sell. I know so many of you have had accounts much harder than this,

but I would be lying if I said I wasnt just a little depressed.

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Thanks, Deb

I always appreciate your support. I got to get well next week for teachers

fairs in Atlanta so I can get my situation changed and get closer to my family.

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>

> Good morning to all. I am new here and have been on the diet and

> supplements for 30 days today. I was on another program which

allowed

> some grains so it was easy to switch over. I want to say thank you

to

> Bee for this support group and for all the wonderful information. My

> world has completely changed in the 30 days. I used to be able to

> exercise one or two days a week and now I am bouncing off the

walls. I

> am ballroom dancing several nights a week as well as tennis, walking

> and even enjoyed a wonderful play last night! I have not felt this

> good in years.

+++Hi Joanne. That's wonderful you are doing so well.

>

> I am not sleeping well, however, but I don't let it bother me at

all.

> I get about 5 hours a night and feel fully awake all day so I just

> keep busy. My main problem is brain fog. I know that candida causes

> this problem and I have had it for 30 years so I can't expect it to

go

> away overnight but I am wondering if anyone can share about when

they

> noticed some improvement in memory and cognitive thinking skills. I

> need to get a better job but I am so afraid to do anything that is

> over my head. I applied for a job where they gave me some tests and

I

> scored in the 20%. I was on a lot of medication for years for pain

and

> that may have a lot to do with it but I believe that most of it is

> from the candida because I have been completely drug free for 4

years.

+++The timing for improved memory and cognitive thinking is different

for everyone, which mainly depends upon how long they have had those

symptoms. The reason is because it takes 1 month for every year to

heal, and during the healing process your body will retrace previous

episodes with those symptoms, along with many others (see Hering's

Law of Cures on my website). For example, my brother had Crohn's

Disease for 20 years so it took him close to 20 months for his

diarrhea symptoms to stop. I had vaginal yeast for over 25 years so

it took 2 1/2 years for it to stop.

>

> I am only able to take 2 tsp. of the VCO as I really bounce off the

> walls if I take more. I won't sleep the whole night. So, I am going

to take it real slow.

+++That's a very good plan. Ensure you do not take coconut oil less

than 3 hours prior to bedtime, since it is very energizing and will

interfere with your sleep.

The best in health, Bee

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> Good morning to all. I am new here and have been on the diet and

> supplements for 30 days today. I was on another program which

allowed

> some grains so it was easy to switch over. I want to say thank you

to

> Bee for this support group and for all the wonderful information. My

> world has completely changed in the 30 days. I used to be able to

> exercise one or two days a week and now I am bouncing off the

walls. I

> am ballroom dancing several nights a week as well as tennis, walking

> and even enjoyed a wonderful play last night! I have not felt this

> good in years.

+++Hi Joanne. That's wonderful you are doing so well.

>

> I am not sleeping well, however, but I don't let it bother me at

all.

> I get about 5 hours a night and feel fully awake all day so I just

> keep busy. My main problem is brain fog. I know that candida causes

> this problem and I have had it for 30 years so I can't expect it to

go

> away overnight but I am wondering if anyone can share about when

they

> noticed some improvement in memory and cognitive thinking skills. I

> need to get a better job but I am so afraid to do anything that is

> over my head. I applied for a job where they gave me some tests and

I

> scored in the 20%. I was on a lot of medication for years for pain

and

> that may have a lot to do with it but I believe that most of it is

> from the candida because I have been completely drug free for 4

years.

+++The timing for improved memory and cognitive thinking is different

for everyone, which mainly depends upon how long they have had those

symptoms. The reason is because it takes 1 month for every year to

heal, and during the healing process your body will retrace previous

episodes with those symptoms, along with many others (see Hering's

Law of Cures on my website). For example, my brother had Crohn's

Disease for 20 years so it took him close to 20 months for his

diarrhea symptoms to stop. I had vaginal yeast for over 25 years so

it took 2 1/2 years for it to stop.

>

> I am only able to take 2 tsp. of the VCO as I really bounce off the

> walls if I take more. I won't sleep the whole night. So, I am going

to take it real slow.

+++That's a very good plan. Ensure you do not take coconut oil less

than 3 hours prior to bedtime, since it is very energizing and will

interfere with your sleep.

The best in health, Bee

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>

> I am experiencing Brain fog but I would like another persons opinion on brain

fog what exactly do you feel like with brain fog, I am only 22 and I feel like I

am going insane with this brain fog stuff. I just want to know if other peole

are feeling the same way I am.

>

Hi, I am also 22 and have experienced brain fog with candida. I feel as though

Im kind of spaced out and forgetful. I feel like sometimes I cant concentrate or

kind of an " un real " feeling. It also feels like im kind of depressed or in a

little state of mind. Its a very very weird feeling and very frustrating..but

mine has gotten better. Just hang in there!

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WOW I thought that I was the only one in my age range. I really appriciate your

support gives me a comfort feeling. How long have you been on the program before

you started to notice a difference. Did you eliminate everyting at once or did

you do it over time? If you could got any food choices that you really enjoy or

any tips>

Lynn

> >

> > I am experiencing Brain fog but I would like another persons opinion on

brain fog what exactly do you feel like with brain fog, I am only 22 and I feel

like I am going insane with this brain fog stuff. I just want to know if other

peole are feeling the same way I am.

> >

>

> Hi, I am also 22 and have experienced brain fog with candida. I feel as though

Im kind of spaced out and forgetful. I feel like sometimes I cant concentrate or

kind of an " un real " feeling. It also feels like im kind of depressed or in a

little state of mind. Its a very very weird feeling and very frustrating..but

mine has gotten better. Just hang in there!

>

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> I am experiencing Brain fog but I would like another persons opinion on brain

fog what exactly do you feel like with brain fog, I am only 22 and I feel like I

am going insane with this brain fog stuff. I just want to know if other peole

are feeling the same way I am.

+++Hi there. What is your name please?

I also had brain fog when I did my candida program over 20 years ago. Is

extremely common for candida sufferers since candida produces over 79 different

kinds of toxins, but most of those toxins are alcohol.

So what you are feeling is like a constant alcoholic hangover because of how

alcohol affects the brain, mind and thinking.

One of the Candida books I have describe a man who was arrested for drunken

driving. He took the breathalyzer test and blew way over the limit. However,

this man had never drank any kind of alcohol ever! Later he found out that he

had candida, and after doing the program he didn't fail a breathlyzer test.

The best, Bee

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You nailed it. Feels like I am drunk all the time. I also get dizzy when I get

up and not always to fast do you believe this could have something to do with

brain fog?

> >

> > I am experiencing Brain fog but I would like another persons opinion on

brain fog what exactly do you feel like with brain fog, I am only 22 and I feel

like I am going insane with this brain fog stuff. I just want to know if other

peole are feeling the same way I am.

>

> +++Hi there. What is your name please?

>

> I also had brain fog when I did my candida program over 20 years ago. Is

extremely common for candida sufferers since candida produces over 79 different

kinds of toxins, but most of those toxins are alcohol.

>

> So what you are feeling is like a constant alcoholic hangover because of how

alcohol affects the brain, mind and thinking.

>

> One of the Candida books I have describe a man who was arrested for drunken

driving. He took the breathalyzer test and blew way over the limit. However,

this man had never drank any kind of alcohol ever! Later he found out that he

had candida, and after doing the program he didn't fail a breathlyzer test.

>

> The best, Bee

>

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> Hi Bee My Name is

>

> You nailed it. Feels like I am drunk all the time. I also get dizzy when I get

up and not always to fast do you believe this could have something to do with

brain fog?

+++Hi . Getting dizzy can be related to candida's alcohol toxins, but

it can be caused by other things. Don't be concerned about it however. It will

improve as you continue progressing on this program.

Bee

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> Hi Bee

> I am suffering from severe brain fog, it never lifts. I am a week into your

diet, which is going ok but the brain fog is so dame hard to deal with. I did

have it before so its not new to me. I know its toxins, so do i need to detox

more? Im already having epsom salt baths, can you advise on anything else which

might help.

+++Hi Emma. You should be taking unrefined coconut oil as your only antifungal,

and if you start with too much or increase it too fast it will cause more brain

fog which is a die-off symptom.

So try cutting back on the coconut oil and increase it more slowly.

You might need to do the 9-Day Program to get through this bad period of time:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/dig6.php

All the best, Bee

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Hi Deborah,

Brain fog is caused by toxins circulating in the brain. Bee's program will

eventually take care of it and give you much more clarity. There's nothing you

can do, I'm afraid, to speed up the process. In the meantime, you just need to

hang in there. It takes as long as it takes for this symptom to subside.

All the best,

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>

> What is the cause of brain fog? Is there anything in particular that I should

be doing to help alleviate this symptom?

>

> Deborah

>

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Hi Trudy

You sound like a star-child, tripping thru the stars.

Im kinda like that too - I cant focus too good, so people have coversations 'around' me.

But my mind is zipping here and there.

Thats me with no drugs, and look at you......your putting some pretty potent stuff in your body right now.

Go drink some water. LOL :-)

love

don in ks

TrudyI hate to say; but, I'm not sure to this day if my brain fog has ever lifted. I make a joke about it because I am a blond. However, it is so embarrassing I sure know. I think my short term memory has gotten better, I can almost tell you what I did last night; but, only because I do the same thing every night.Gloria

We are always laughing at our Brain Fog. I have ( it seems) no short term memory. Not just focus issues. I will give someone my compete attention and 30 mins later, I won't even remember the conversation . I can't remember yesterday... What I did, what Hubby & I ate, whether we watched tv. No joke, it's really bad. So my question is this...whatever( all?) is tx related, how long after tx does it get better? http://facebook.com/people/andTrudy-Kinsey/1340460877 ""A well- behaved woman never made history"...Mae Westhttp://oktravels.wordpress.comhttp://allrecipes.com/cook/TrudyK/profile.aspx

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As usual, Teri has said it all in this post!! One of the sites that I went to once, recommended some games that are actually very easy; but, it's likely they will be the only ones that your brain will be able to get around. Even forms of solitaire could be difficult; but, recommended.I'm still getting run down by folks that never bothered to get informed about treatment to begin with. Don't let that happen to you!! You might as well get Rick used to the fact that you will be incapable of being super-woman, right now. Then perhaps it won't come as a blow to him.Now here's one for a laugh. I am a bookkeeper for small businesses in my area of the world. Something that a

bookkeeper needs the most is her/his mind!!! There were many days during both treatments that I simply didn't have a mind. I didn't contemplate my toes; but, I would stare at the computer and not know what I was supposed to do. I was very busy doing nothing most of the time.Gloria

,You are not late in responding to this one.. no worries. And I think I can put this into perspective for you. Just stay with me on this one okay?

Right now, you are experiencing a certain level of brain fog correct? Brain fog can come from a variety of issues but two that are already connected to you are Hep C and Fibromyalgia. Now, to change things up for you a bit and give you a bigger picture... Once you start treatment, things are going to change drastically. The level of brain fog you are experiencing now is a piece of cake compared to what can happen on treatment. Don't get me wrong here, treatment saved my life and I am forever grateful to the doctors and the drugs BUT those damn drugs are vicious and nasty and can throw everything for a loop rather quickly.

What I am going to try to describe won't do it justice because really, you have to be there. When you start treatment your brain functions tend to go on vacation. Reading a book may be impossible, it was for me. Following the plot on a one hour long tv show.. impossible, you can follow the commercials real well though and probably for the first time in your life you will look forward to those damn things. Making a point that you have in your head but won't come out of your mouth.. that happens all the time. You know what you mean but the words are totally different as they escape your mouth. Therefore you say something that comes out as complete and utter nonsense but in your mind you have made your point.. until somebody

tells you what you just said. I told my son that the garage was flying once. I was trying to tell him that it needed paint. Kinda not the same thing right? There are times when the best you will be able to do is contemplate your toes. And you can spend hours doing just that. I remember having Oprah on tv.. I am not a big Oprah fan but it was entertaining on tx, anyway, she said something about 800 thread count sheets.. so I decided to try to count the threads in my flannel sheets... that kept me busy for a whole day! I never got much past 20 without having to start again but I did that for an entire day. Here is my point. And I do have one. Once your husband sees THIS level of brain fog, there will be no question in his mind as to what is going on. He won't like it, it will upset him and he won't know how to fix it but he will accept it for what it is. That is what

Trudy is dealing with right now, only she's doing it with a stutter too! Sorry Trudy, I just had to throw that in there! I couldn't help myself! Hopefully, this will give you a better idea of what will happen versus what is happening. The brain fog I had before treatment, hell, it was there but it was minimal, but, I also didn't have Fibromyalgia before treatment started either. You are already dealing with that and it comes with a level of brain fog as well.

Read my response to Gloria and Trudy about dealing with this and other people's comments too.. Hopefully it will help.

Hugs,teri

On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 7:47 PM, Cinder <datagrey@...> wrote:

I know this is responding late to this but wondering before the knowledge of chemo and Hep C came along people had brain fog as in getting older and altzheimers also. So we can't necessarily blame ablsolutely everything on hep c. I try to but my husband keeps pointing out if I did not have hep c there is still alot of things I could have similar. There is too. Anyway it is an ongoing argument I have with my husband. So I don't dare ever say anything is because of hep c anymore. I just ride my way through it and keep my knowledge to myself. Kind of makes me mad now I found out what can cause all this to be more severe and can't even talk about it like it is what is doing it. hm. Cinder

From: Gloria <gadamscan@...>Subject: Re: [ ] Brain fog

Date: Tuesday, December 21, 2010, 6:55 PM

TrudyI hate to say; but, I'm not sure to this day if my brain fog has ever lifted. I make a joke about it because I am a blond. However, it is so embarrassing I sure know. I think my short term memory has gotten better, I can almost tell you what I did last night; but, only because I do the same thing every night.

Gloria

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MOVE ON. It's just a chapter in the past, but don't close the book. Just turn the page.

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the names I go by are Willard, Ray, Butch, Uncle Butchie, Dad and Uncle Bitchy.

They each have there own personality and they all have brain fog. It's a fricken

mad house around here and I am the only one here. It has been very interesting

being me too say the least LOL

W.R.U.B.D.H.

Willard Ray Uncle Butchie Daddy Holland " The first "

>

> My brain fog is so bad. " How bad is it? " my brain fog is so bad that

> I can't even carry on a conversation with Myself cause I forget what

> we were talking about !!

>

> http://facebook.com/people/andTrudy-Kinsey/1340460877 "

>

> " A well- behaved woman never made history " ...Mae West

>

> http://oktravels.wordpress.com

>

> http://allrecipes.com/cook/TrudyK/profile.aspx

>

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Thank you..  I needed that laugh today!On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 1:39 PM, butchholland2002 <butchholland2002@...> wrote:

 

the names I go by are Willard, Ray, Butch, Uncle Butchie, Dad and Uncle Bitchy. They each have there own personality and they all have brain fog. It's a fricken mad house around here and I am the only one here. It has been very interesting being me too say the least LOL

W.R.U.B.D.H.

Willard Ray Uncle Butchie Daddy Holland " The first "

>

> My brain fog is so bad. " How bad is it? " my brain fog is so bad that

> I can't even carry on a conversation with Myself cause I forget what

> we were talking about !!

>

> http://facebook.com/people/andTrudy-Kinsey/1340460877 "

>

> " A well- behaved woman never made history " ...Mae West

>

> http://oktravels.wordpress.com

>

> http://allrecipes.com/cook/TrudyK/profile.aspx

>

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Does anyone know if this brain fog lasts forever? i can't remember who i am lately. nor do i care......lol

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Thank you.. I needed that laugh today!

On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 1:39 PM, butchholland2002 <butchholland2002@...> wrote:

the names I go by are Willard, Ray, Butch, Uncle Butchie, Dad and Uncle Bitchy. They each have there own personality and they all have brain fog. It's a fricken mad house around here and I am the only one here. It has been very interesting being me too say the least LOLW.R.U.B.D.H. Willard Ray Uncle Butchie Daddy Holland "The first">> My brain fog is so bad. " How bad is it?" my brain fog is so bad that > I can't even carry on a conversation with Myself cause I forget what > we were talking about !!> > http://facebook.com/people/andTrudy-Kinsey/1340460877 "> > "A well- behaved woman never made history"...Mae West> > http://oktravels.wordpress.com> > http://allrecipes.com/cook/TrudyK/profile.aspx>

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What was the question?

the names I go by are Willard, Ray, Butch, Uncle Butchie, Dad and Uncle Bitchy. They each have there own personality and they all have brain fog. It's a fricken mad house around here and I am the only one here. It has been very interesting being me too say the least LOLW.R.U.B.D.H. Willard Ray Uncle Butchie Daddy Holland "The first">> My brain fog is so bad. " How bad is it?" my brain fog is so bad that > I can't even carry on a conversation with Myself cause I forget what > we were talking about !!> > http://facebook.com/people/andTrudy-Kinsey/1340460877 "> > "A well- behaved woman never made history"...Mae West> > http://oktravels.wordpress.com> > http://allrecipes.com/cook/TrudyK/profile.aspx>

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exactly! lol

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What was the question?

the names I go by are Willard, Ray, Butch, Uncle Butchie, Dad and Uncle Bitchy. They each have there own personality and they all have brain fog. It's a fricken mad house around here and I am the only one here. It has been very interesting being me too say the least LOLW.R.U.B.D.H. Willard Ray Uncle Butchie Daddy Holland "The first">> My brain fog is so bad. " How bad is it?" my brain fog is so bad that > I can't even carry on a conversation with Myself cause I forget what > we were talking about !!> > http://facebook.com/people/andTrudy-Kinsey/1340460877 "> > "A well- behaved woman never made history"...Mae West> > http://oktravels.wordpress.com> > http://allrecipes.com/cook/TrudyK/profile.aspx>

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