Sleep

[Guest guest]

found a new homeopathic product that helps me fall asleep and fall back

asleep when I wake up. It's called " Soy Nerve Food " It's a powder you mix in

liquid. Contains: calc.phos 3x and kali.phos.3x plus, soy powder, slippery elm

powder and arrow root powder.

It's made my " Touch of Sun Herbs " -- a local herbalist in the SF Bay Area.

You can google to website. I have absolutely no financial interest in this

company or product, just passing along something that seems to help a little.

I still have trouble with getting restorative sleep, though.

michael

[Guest guest]

joyce edmonds wrote:

>Thank you for your reply. I was at Wall-Mart last night and saw the long

" Hug a Pillow " . It was huge around and I was afraid I couldn't swing my leg

over it so I didn't get it. I decided to give it more thought.

>Joyce E

>

>

I didn't put my legs over it, just hugged it while on my side, with another

pillow like it proped behind me (in the hospital).

But keep looking until you find something that works for you!

[Guest guest]

Hi all,

Check out http://mattresses.net/ (If this has already been posted, I

apologize)

I called them yesterday about their mattresses. They say their latex

mattresses come directly from the manufacturer, so there are no

middlemen, which is why their prices are so much less, about half the

price of what you'd buy in the store. Right now they are not charging

for shipping on these mattresses. They also sell foam pads and

overlays. Of course these prices are still out of my reach, but I

thought I'd pass this on. This company had good reviews in the local

Berkeley Parents Network email list.

Grace, up with insomnia right now, as usual

> Try a memory foam mattress topper, as thick as you can afford. Try

> overstock.com, as they usually have a good selection. The topper is

> the only way my post0surgical daughter hcan sleep in her own bed. Be

> aware, they can be a little smelly when they first come, so let it air

> out a day or two before you put it on your bed.

[Guest guest]

I've noticed several people here have had problems sleeping after surgery. What is this due to? I remember one of you said it never went away. I started having problems sleeping after my son was born (1971) and finally gave in after 20 years & started taking sleeping pills, but now they don't work so well -- it's as if I'm not taking any -- I've begun remembering the whole night again, and having nightmares every night (recurring theme ones) -- and I haven't had my surgery yet. I've had other surgeries and this didn't happen. I don't want to add to it with post-TKR insomnia -- I'd like to know what causes it so I can head it off.

Ann

SLEEP

Hi everybodywhen oh when can I expect a decent nights sleep post opIt has been nearly 2 weeks since surgery and I think I am going to go out of my mind if I do not get a good nights sleep soonI am staying up all day (10am-10pm), taking meds for pain when required as well as sleeping pills occasionally if desp I toss and turn all night and watch the clock go aroundI find I am usually falling asleep about 2am and waking up as early as 5 or 6 am HELP R TKR

[Guest guest]

Lots of us went through that. If ya can't sleep try

reading. That usually makes me sleepy. My pain

meds usually knock me out for several hours.

It will straighten out eventually. Get a lot of books

or watch TV till ya get sleepy.

Sherry SLEEP

Hi everybodywhen oh when can I expect a decent nights sleep post opIt has been nearly 2 weeks since surgery and I think I am going to go out of my mind if I do not get a good nights sleep soonI am staying up all day (10am-10pm), taking meds for pain when required as well as sleeping pills occasionally if desp I toss and turn all night and watch the clock go aroundI find I am usually falling asleep about 2am and waking up as early as 5 or 6 am HELP R TKR

[Guest guest]

I usually sleep on my side. After surgery I couldn't

because of the pain in my legs and I just don't

feel comfortable on my side because after while my

ribs hurt. It took me about 4 months before I could

comfortably sleep on my side again without the

aide of a pillow between my legs.

Sherry

SLEEP

Hi everybodywhen oh when can I expect a decent nights sleep post opIt has been nearly 2 weeks since surgery and I think I am going to go out of my mind if I do not get a good nights sleep soonI am staying up all day (10am-10pm), taking meds for pain when required as well as sleeping pills occasionally if desp I toss and turn all night and watch the clock go aroundI find I am usually falling asleep about 2am and waking up as early as 5 or 6 am HELP R TKR

[Guest guest]

Hi me again

they tell me that poor sleep can be also due to depression

Well der, pain + arthritis = depression in my case

Have been taking pills for that to since I had Amy in 1992

Also anaemia can also lead to sleeplessness, another rheumatoid problem

the list just goes on and on

-- Re: SLEEP

I've noticed several people here have had problems sleeping after surgery. What is this due to? I remember one of you said it never went away. I started having problems sleeping after my son was born (1971) and finally gave in after 20 years & started taking sleeping pills, but now they don't work so well -- it's as if I'm not taking any -- I've begun remembering the whole night again, and having nightmares every night (recurring theme ones) -- and I haven't had my surgery yet. I've had other surgeries and this didn't happen. I don't want to add to it with post-TKR insomnia -- I'd like to know what causes it so I can head it off.

Ann

SLEEP

Hi everybodywhen oh when can I expect a decent nights sleep post opIt has been nearly 2 weeks since surgery and I think I am going to go out of my mind if I do not get a good nights sleep soonI am staying up all day (10am-10pm), taking meds for pain when required as well as sleeping pills occasionally if desp I toss and turn all night and watch the clock go aroundI find I am usually falling asleep about 2am and waking up as early as 5 or 6 am HELP R TKR

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[Guest guest]

thanks Sherry have been doing that but no real luck

have even got the MP 3 player out of the drawer

that is helping a little bit, drowns out my husbands snooring!

-- Re: SLEEP

Lots of us went through that. If ya can't sleep try

reading. That usually makes me sleepy. My pain

meds usually knock me out for several hours.

It will straighten out eventually. Get a lot of books

or watch TV till ya get sleepy.

Sherry SLEEP

Hi everybodywhen oh when can I expect a decent nights sleep post opIt has been nearly 2 weeks since surgery and I think I am going to go out of my mind if I do not get a good nights sleep soonI am staying up all day (10am-10pm), taking meds for pain when required as well as sleeping pills occasionally if desp I toss and turn all night and watch the clock go aroundI find I am usually falling asleep about 2am and waking up as early as 5 or 6 am HELP R TKR

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[Guest guest]

I will be 5 weeks out on Monday and my sleep pattern is the same way. Last night

went to

bed at 10:30 and finally go to sleep at 1:30 and was awake at 5 AM. I also don't

nap

during the day and I don't think I could if I wanted to. It's maddening and

frustrating.

Arianne

>

> Hi everybody

> when oh when can I expect a decent nights sleep post op

> It has been nearly 2 weeks since surgery and I think I am going to go

> out of my mind if I do not get a good nights sleep soon

> I am staying up all day (10am-10pm), taking meds for pain when

> required as well as sleeping pills occasionally if desp

> I toss and turn all night and watch the clock go around

> I find I am usually falling asleep about 2am and waking up as early as

> 5 or 6 am HELP

> R TKR

>

[Guest guest]

Hi :

I had TKR last Thxgiving and it all went well except for the insomnia

that developed. I felt so desperate for sleep I thought I was going

crazy and I couldn't understand what was going on.

It started after I went off my pain meds, I was taking that " Rush

Limbaugh " drug, I think it is oxycodone, a time released pain med.

Very effective and never made me feel drugged. I didn't know it, but

had become hooked and went through about 2-3 weeks of insomnia.

Through a friend that had had a leukemia bone marrow transplant, I

learned about an anti-anxiety drug that worked very well to help me

sleep again on my own. It only took a few nights to break the cycle

and kick my system back into normal (I usually fall asleep at the drop

of a hat, that's why it was so weird for me). The drug is called

Lorazipam and my doctor was happy to prescribe it when he heard of my

trouble.

Don't know if that helps you, but it did me.

Good luck,

Bill

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[Guest guest]

After I went home, after myTKR, I slept like a baby with my CPM machine going full blast all night!!! Must have been the drugs or maybe I was so worn out. I have heard of people not sleeping, but I was very lucky . Lynn H.

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[Guest guest]

I slept with my CPM machine and no bother but the sleep problem started

after that.

On Sep 9, 2006, at 7:52 AM, Lynn Holbrook wrote:

> After I went home, after myTKR, I slept like a baby with my CPM

> machine going full blast all night!!!  Must have been the drugs or

> maybe I was so worn out.  I have heard of people not sleeping, but I

> was very lucky .

> Lynn H.

>

> Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help.

> Small Business.

>

>

The Will of God will never take you to where the Grace

of God will not protect you.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/9/2006 12:07:49 A.M. Central Standard Time, ashy@... writes:

thanks Sherry have been doing that but no real luck

have even got the MP 3 player out of the drawer

that is helping a little bit, drowns out my husbands snooring!

My husbands snoring is the worst for me. He can go to sleep in less than 5 minutes and then I'm left there just listening to him. I'm 7 months out and I have trouble sleeping more than 2 or 3 hours at a time.

[Guest guest]

Hi Bill

thanks for the tip

I am also taking Endone (Oxycodone) about twice a day and plenty of panadeine forte

I have heard of Lorazepam ( I am a nurse) and this could certainly help me get back into a better pattern of sleeping

I am waking up sometimes because I am in pain though and have to take pain meds for that as well as visit the bathroom..................of course the delima is do you take the pain meds and wait 1/2 hour to go to the bathroom or do you take the meds and go to the bathroom and grin and bear it?

Hip and knees

-- Re: SLEEP

Hi :I had TKR last Thxgiving and it all went well except for the insomniathat developed. I felt so desperate for sleep I thought I was goingcrazy and I couldn't understand what was going on. It started after I went off my pain meds, I was taking that "RushLimbaugh" drug, I think it is oxycodone, a time released pain med. Very effective and never made me feel drugged. I didn't know it, buthad become hooked and went through about 2-3 weeks of insomnia.Through a friend that had had a leukemia bone marrow transplant, Ilearned about an anti-anxiety drug that worked very well to help mesleep again on my own. It only took a few nights to break the cycleand kick my system back into normal (I usually fall asleep at the dropof a hat, that's why it was so weird for me). The drug is calledLorazipam and my doctor was happy to prescribe it when he heard of mytrouble.Don't know if that helps you, but it did me.Good luck,Bill__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

lol.

I can't help too much. Lexapro makes me a little tired but not as

sleepy as you're describing. You've tried switching the time you take

it, right?

Jen

>

> Or someone, please answer my question about the sleepiness before I fall

> asleep.....zzzzzzzzzzzzz

> LOL

> Cyndi

[Guest guest]

Just today I tried switching. I used to take it in the morning around 10ish

after breakfast but now I thought I'd take it around 5 or so......I was

still tired all day but I'll give it a week taking it at this time. I get

plenty of sleep at night too and am trying to drink more water.......I also

used to take Celexa and it never made me tired like this. I quit taking the

Celexa because it was expensive even with insurance and I was tired of that

monthly " payment " . LOL

Now I realize I have to take something no matter the cost. Oh well.

Cyndi

On 10/20/06, Jen <jenniferm32@...> wrote:

>

>

> lol.

>

> I can't help too much. Lexapro makes me a little tired but not as

> sleepy as you're describing. You've tried switching the time you take

> it, right?

>

> Jen

>

>

> >

> > Or someone, please answer my question about the sleepiness before I fall

> > asleep.....zzzzzzzzzzzzz

> > LOL

> > Cyndi

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I wanted to jump in here and say that when I took my Lex at bedtime, I was

sleepy the next day. Now I'm taking it in the AM and I have all sorts of energy.

Sue CFrom: Jen

[mailto: jenniferm32@...]Lexapro@...: Fri, 20 Oct

2006 23:01:35 -0000Subject: Re: sleep

lol. :)I can't help too much. Lexapro makes me a little tired but not assleepy

as you're describing. You've tried switching the time you takeit, right?Jen

& gt; & gt; Or someone,

please answer my question about the sleepiness before I fall & gt;

asleep.....zzzzzzzzzzzzz & gt; LOL & gt; Cyndi

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[Guest guest]

That's cool that changing the time worked so well! I wish it had done

that for me. Darn tempermental meds never acting the same from person

to person!

& gt; & gt; Or someone, please answer my question about the

sleepiness before I fall & gt; asleep.....zzzzzzzzzzzzz & gt; LOL & gt; Cyndi

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

It's good that you have the patience to try it at different times and

then give it a chance to work. Good idea to give it a week at the new

time.

I've also started drinking more water because I vaguely remember that

some psychotropic meds make it easier to get dehydrated. I kept

hoping that any side effects I was feeling would be cleared up by

drinking water... some of them did go away.

If you don't mind me asking, do you have the same co-payment whether

you take celexa or lexapro? If it's the same would your doctor

consider switching you back to celexa?

> > >

> > > Or someone, please answer my question about the sleepiness

before I fall

> > > asleep.....zzzzzzzzzzzzz

> > > LOL

> > > Cyndi

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

The water is really supposed to help!

I'm not sure what my co-payment was for the Celexa because it was about 4

years ago that I took it. I just remember I got tired of paying for it so

weaned off, thinking I'd be ok. Depression, mood swings and anger comes

back no matter what. ( The doc did tell me he would switch me to Celexa

if after the 6 weeks Lexapro isn't doing what it's supposed to. He just

said Lexapro is a more pure form of Celexa so I should adjust fine. )

Cyndi

On 10/21/06, Jen <jenniferm32@...> wrote:

>

>

> It's good that you have the patience to try it at different times and

> then give it a chance to work. Good idea to give it a week at the new

> time.

>

> I've also started drinking more water because I vaguely remember that

> some psychotropic meds make it easier to get dehydrated. I kept

> hoping that any side effects I was feeling would be cleared up by

> drinking water... some of them did go away.

>

> If you don't mind me asking, do you have the same co-payment whether

> you take celexa or lexapro? If it's the same would your doctor

> consider switching you back to celexa?

>

>

> > > >

> > > > Or someone, please answer my question about the sleepiness

> before I fall

> > > > asleep.....zzzzzzzzzzzzz

> > > > LOL

> > > > Cyndi

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I know they're expensive. If you have a Wal-Mart near

you they sell Lex. at almost $25.00 cheaper. Price out

the Celexa if you can.

ak

--- Cyndi Bohan <cynboh@...> wrote:

> Just today I tried switching. I used to take it in

> the morning around 10ish

> after breakfast but now I thought I'd take it around

> 5 or so......I was

> still tired all day but I'll give it a week taking

> it at this time. I get

> plenty of sleep at night too and am trying to drink

> more water.......I also

> used to take Celexa and it never made me tired like

> this. I quit taking the

> Celexa because it was expensive even with insurance

> and I was tired of that

> monthly " payment " . LOL

> Now I realize I have to take something no matter the

> cost. Oh well.

> Cyndi

>

>

> On 10/20/06, Jen <jenniferm32@...> wrote:

> >

> >

> > lol.

> >

> > I can't help too much. Lexapro makes me a little

> tired but not as

> > sleepy as you're describing. You've tried

> switching the time you take

> > it, right?

> >

> > Jen

> >

> >

> > >

> > > Or someone, please answer my question about the

> sleepiness before I fall

> > > asleep.....zzzzzzzzzzzzz

> > > LOL

> > > Cyndi

> >

> >

> >

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

[Guest guest]

I got mine at Walmart and it was almost $80. with insurance. ( My hope

is that my insurance will reimburse some of it. With my omeprazole I pay

$40. but they reimburse $33. so not bad at all.

Cyndi

On 10/26/06, AUDREY KOEPKE <audkoe@...> wrote:

>

> I know they're expensive. If you have a Wal-Mart near

> you they sell Lex. at almost $25.00 cheaper. Price out

> the Celexa if you can.

> ak

>

> --- Cyndi Bohan <cynboh@... <cynboh%40gmail.com>> wrote:

>

> > Just today I tried switching. I used to take it in

> > the morning around 10ish

> > after breakfast but now I thought I'd take it around

> > 5 or so......I was

> > still tired all day but I'll give it a week taking

> > it at this time. I get

> > plenty of sleep at night too and am trying to drink

> > more water.......I also

> > used to take Celexa and it never made me tired like

> > this. I quit taking the

> > Celexa because it was expensive even with insurance

> > and I was tired of that

> > monthly " payment " . LOL

> > Now I realize I have to take something no matter the

> > cost. Oh well.

> > Cyndi

> >

> >

> > On 10/20/06, Jen <jenniferm32@... <jenniferm32%40hotmail.com>>

> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > lol.

> > >

> > > I can't help too much. Lexapro makes me a little

> > tired but not as

> > > sleepy as you're describing. You've tried

> > switching the time you take

> > > it, right?

> > >

> > > Jen

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Or someone, please answer my question about the

> > sleepiness before I fall

> > > > asleep.....zzzzzzzzzzzzz

> > > > LOL

> > > > Cyndi

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hello. I'm and 30 years old. Had epilepsy since 14 years old.

> This week was a first for me. Seizures in sleep. My medications have

> always done well for me till now, I'm in the transition onto a new

> prescription.

> The seizure happened Monday morning. Well, 4 days has gone by. I

> can't find a way to relax at night now. Tuesday and Wednesday were

> struggles and maybe got 2-3 hours rest. I didn't sleep at all last

> night.

> I've put in a call to my Dr. But won't hear back till september so

> decided to check places like here.

> Any feedback appreciated.

>

[Guest guest]

HI, MY NAME IS ROBIN. I HAVE HAD A SEIZURE PROB. SINCE SECOND GRADE. OH, MAN 2-3

HRS. OF SLEEP MAN THAT WOULD CAUSE ME TO HAVE ONE PROB. THE NEXT DAY OR AT LEAST

MAKE ME SICK. TRY MEDIATING. THINK OF SOMEWHERE THAT RELAXES YOU. (BREATH IN

AND OUT A COUPLE OF TIMES) I KNOW HOW YOU ARE FEELING THOUGH, I AM REALLY

STRESSED OUT. WELL, I HAD A ACCIDENT ABOUT A YR. AGO. MY HUSBAND AND I WERE

DISCUSSING ABOUT HAVING A BABY. WELL, THEY HAD THIS EPLISEY CENTER A LSU. SO I

WENT AND HIS ASS. TOLD ME THE WRONG INF. AND NONE OF HIS STAFF WEREN''T WRITING

THE MESSASGES DOWN. EITHER WAY IT COULD BEEN PREVENTED. I HAD A GRAND MAL

SEIZURE WHILE I WAS FRY MEAT. MY HAD WENT INTO THE POT. I HAVE HAD 2 GRAPHS, AND

LOST PART OF 2 FINGERS. YA' KNOW WHAT HELPS ME WHEN I FEEL BAD. DEF. AT LEAST I

NEED 9-10 HR.S OF SLEEP, NO STRESS AND DIET. (EASIER SAID THAN DONE I KNOW. I

DRINK BOOST WHICH SEEMS TO HELP ME. WHEN MY LEGS GET STIFF, I DRINK PROPEL AND

REST ALONG WITH EVERYTHING ELSE. I FEEL LIKE

CRAP MOST OF THE TIME. SINCE MY SURGERY, THE SLITEST THING THAT UPSETS ME I GET

SICK. I KNOW I AM PRAYING FOR A CURE LIKE YOU. THIS IS A MAIN IN THE BEEP......

WELL PEACE TO YOU.

ROBIN HENDRICKS

bryan_burgess21 <84405@...> wrote:

Hello. I'm and 30 years old. Had epilepsy since 14 years old.

This week was a first for me. Seizures in sleep. My medications have

always done well for me till now, I'm in the transition onto a new

prescription.

The seizure happened Monday morning. Well, 4 days has gone by. I

can't find a way to relax at night now. Tuesday and Wednesday were

struggles and maybe got 2-3 hours rest. I didn't sleep at all last

night.

I've put in a call to my Dr. But won't hear back till september so

decided to check places like here.

Any feedback appreciated.

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[Guest guest]

My son was suffering from seizure for several years until I finally found what

his body was missing and in his case it was protein and what ended up solving

the problem was protein shakes. When your body is seizing it is searching for

the missing nutrient, is it protein in many epileptics? I don't know but this is

worth a try.

What the shake is milk, raw eggs and I flavor it with whatever he likes, in his

case it is Spirutein Cookies and Cream.

Before that I tried everything with him that I had done to heal my body of MS

which I conquered, it all helped (seizure kept reducing) but wouldn't take him

to the finish line until I tried that shake.

If you would like to read my site www.ginakopera.com click on epilepsy to read

that story and letter.

Have a Happy and Healthy Day,

Kopera

Re: [ ] Sleep

HI, MY NAME IS ROBIN. I HAVE HAD A SEIZURE PROB. SINCE SECOND GRADE. OH, MAN 2-3

HRS. OF SLEEP MAN THAT WOULD CAUSE ME TO HAVE ONE PROB. THE NEXT DAY OR AT LEAST

MAKE ME SICK. TRY MEDIATING. THINK OF SOMEWHERE THAT RELAXES YOU. (BREATH IN AND

OUT A COUPLE OF TIMES) I KNOW HOW YOU ARE FEELING THOUGH, I AM REALLY STRESSED

OUT. WELL, I HAD A ACCIDENT ABOUT A YR. AGO. MY HUSBAND AND I WERE DISCUSSING

ABOUT HAVING A BABY. WELL, THEY HAD THIS EPLISEY CENTER A LSU. SO I WENT AND HIS

ASS. TOLD ME THE WRONG INF. AND NONE OF HIS STAFF WEREN''T WRITING THE MESSASGES

DOWN. EITHER WAY IT COULD BEEN PREVENTED. I HAD A GRAND MAL SEIZURE WHILE I WAS

FRY MEAT. MY HAD WENT INTO THE POT. I HAVE HAD 2 GRAPHS, AND LOST PART OF 2

FINGERS. YA' KNOW WHAT HELPS ME WHEN I FEEL BAD. DEF. AT LEAST I NEED 9-10 HR.S

OF SLEEP, NO STRESS AND DIET. (EASIER SAID THAN DONE I KNOW. I DRINK BOOST WHICH

SEEMS TO HELP ME. WHEN MY LEGS GET STIFF, I DRINK PROPEL AND REST ALONG WITH

EVERYTHING

ELSE. I FEEL LIKE

CRAP MOST OF THE TIME. SINCE MY SURGERY, THE SLITEST THING THAT UPSETS ME I GET

SICK. I KNOW I AM PRAYING FOR A CURE LIKE YOU. THIS IS A MAIN IN THE BEEP......

WELL PEACE TO YOU.

ROBIN HENDRICKS

bryan_burgess21 <84405hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: Hello. I'm and 30 years

old. Had epilepsy since 14 years old.

This week was a first for me. Seizures in sleep. My medications have

always done well for me till now, I'm in the transition onto a new

prescription.

The seizure happened Monday morning. Well, 4 days has gone by. I

can't find a way to relax at night now. Tuesday and Wednesday were

struggles and maybe got 2-3 hours rest. I didn't sleep at all last

night.

I've put in a call to my Dr. But won't hear back till september so

decided to check places like here.

Any feedback appreciated.

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