Re: Electromagnetic Fields

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P.S. Would a strong electromagnetic field be like when the qi gong

practitioners light lightbulbs with their bare hands? J.

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,

No, it isn't that which lights bulbs. It isn't what it isn't and it is

what it is!

jim

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> P.S. Would a strong electromagnetic field be like when the qi gong

> practitioners light lightbulbs with their bare hands? J.

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Re: Electromagnetic Fields

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>

> No, it isn't that which lights bulbs. It isn't what it isn't and it is

> what it is!

>

> jim

>

> wrote:

> >

> > P.S. Would a strong electromagnetic field be like when the qi gong

> > practitioners light lightbulbs with their bare hands? J.

>

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> No, it isn't that which lights bulbs. It isn't what it isn't and it is

> what it is!

>

That's a bit cryptic! What do you mean? I have been reading stuff like

this about balancing electromagnetism:

http://www.rosiesbestofhealth.com/brochure.htm

It talks about one leg being shorter than the other. My mother had that

problem, and thought I did as a baby because I had two creases in my

thighs. I guess she had me looked at by an orthopedist or something who

thought I was ok. My mother had Crohn's disease and scoliosis, so you

know she had undesirable stuff going on. She had brain atrophy. Long,

long ago she had inklings towards natural medicine though. She had her

amalgams removed decades ago.

J.

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,

I know I understand more about many subtleties of our physical existence

than the mainstream, but I sort of assumed everybody knew some of the

basics. Silly me. Maybe I'm lucky because I watched the original " Ask

Mr. Wizard " a lot as a kid. Pay note I am not expert in these areas,

just an interested student. Someone else may choose to refine what I

say.

You asked why someone could go through a metal detector without

triggering it. I replied it was a variance of their electromagnetic

field. Then you asked if that is the same as what lights up light bulbs

that people hold in their hands. My mind failed to see the segue from my

first answer to your second question. I apologize.

What lights up those funny bulbs is static charge. Electricity is

energy. Electromagnetism is one of the 4 basic forces in physics, the

other three being the strong force, the weak force and gravity. In my

mind electricity and magnetism are two different things. I guess they

are confusing to people who have never looked closely at either one of

them.

As I said before, the body is a capacitor in electronic terms. A

capacitor stores up an electric charge and then releases it in a burst.

This is why as you walk across some carpets dragging your feet,

ungrounded, you pick up a positive static charge. Then, when you are

grounded, (negative) there is a static spark and you release that

charge. This is electricity, raw energy. This is what lights up the

funny bulbs.

Electricity and electromagnetism are separate, but electricity has an

alectromagnetic field. The tuner in a TV is a variable capacitor. This

is why reception on a TV with rabbit ears changes when you walk near it.

Your body is not hard-wired to the TV, so your body's EM field alters

the field surrounding the TV's antennae, moving it off-chanel &

affecting reception. An EM field doesn't require contact for effect, as

with a magnet & metal filings. This is ElectroMagnetism. The two ar

connected, but different.

I only went a few paragraphs into Rosie's web page, but the

electromagnetism to which she is referring is the body's aura, or EM

field. It normally surrounds the body at least an inch from our skin,

but over areas where disease exists there is no aura. It sort of

" funnels in " there. So, she is talking about using the observance of

one's EM field (aura) as a diagnostic tool.

I don't know of any single book that explains these things. Maybe How

Things Work, by Macaulay would be a good beginning. I would love

to find one that explained them across different paradigms, from the

physical to the metaphysical, as I perceive them.

jim

wrote:

>

> > No, it isn't that which lights bulbs. It isn't what it isn't and it is

> > what it is!

> >

>

> That's a bit cryptic! What do you mean? I have been reading stuff like

> this about balancing electromagnetism:

> http://www.rosiesbestofhealth.com/brochure.htm

> It talks about one leg being shorter than the other. My mother had that

> problem, and thought I did as a baby because I had two creases in my

> thighs. I guess she had me looked at by an orthopedist or something who

> thought I was ok. My mother had Crohn's disease and scoliosis, so you

> know she had undesirable stuff going on. She had brain atrophy. Long,

> long ago she had inklings towards natural medicine though. She had her

> amalgams removed decades ago.

> J.

>

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alternative self-help subjects.

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Jim,

I am going to have to study your answer, but I am terrible at

understanding electricity, etc. I lasted a week in chemistry. My

husband teaches electronics and I still don't understand it. I got a

ham license by memorizing the test answers and I had to work hard to do

that. I have a mangled brain. I had five kids living in the fast lane,

and have gone through menopause at high speed with fluid problems, etc.

Hasn't done much for my cognitive abilities. I am resourceful though

and good at finding stuff on the Internet that other people have

written. I'm just not good at the whole technical " fabric " . J.

[Guest guest]

Jim,

a very interesting & informative post...

>What lights up those funny bulbs is static charge. Electricity is

>energy. Electromagnetism is one of the 4 basic forces in physics, the

>other three being the strong force, the weak force and gravity. In my

>mind electricity and magnetism are two different things. I guess they

>are confusing to people who have never looked closely at either one of

>them.

>

>As I said before, the body is a capacitor in electronic terms. A

>capacitor stores up an electric charge and then releases it in a burst.

>This is why as you walk across some carpets dragging your feet,

>ungrounded, you pick up a positive static charge. Then, when you are

>grounded, (negative) there is a static spark and you release that

>charge. This is electricity, raw energy. This is what lights up the

>funny bulbs.

Some say that it is important for health to stay grounded. I am

wondering..... in winter here the whole house is filled with static

electricity, especially noticeable: bedding, but also myself, my

hair etc. I hate static, how can I ground myself or my bed? Any

ideas? (we don't have carpets)

>

>Electricity and electromagnetism are separate, but electricity has an

>alectromagnetic field. The tuner in a TV is a variable capacitor. This

>is why reception on a TV with rabbit ears changes when you walk near it.

>Your body is not hard-wired to the TV, so your body's EM field alters

>the field surrounding the TV's antennae, moving it off-chanel &

>affecting reception. An EM field doesn't require contact for effect, as

>with a magnet & metal filings. This is ElectroMagnetism. The two ar

>connected, but different.

>

>I only went a few paragraphs into Rosie's web page, but the

>electromagnetism to which she is referring is the body's aura, or EM

>field. It normally surrounds the body at least an inch from our skin,

>but over areas where disease exists there is no aura. It sort of

> " funnels in " there. So, she is talking about using the observance of

>one's EM field (aura) as a diagnostic tool.

>

>I don't know of any single book that explains these things. Maybe How

>Things Work, by Macaulay would be a good beginning. I would love

>to find one that explained them across different paradigms, from the

>physical to the metaphysical, as I perceive them.

maybe you should write the book?

[Guest guest]

>

> I have noticed that I am very sensitive to EMFs. I walk into any

large

> store and can almost *feel* something in the air, buzzing around

me. I

> sit at the computer and feel flushed and almost woozy from the

> exposure. The fluorescent light in my kitchen drives me nuts. So

does

> talking on the cordless phone. (I'm not on the phone much so it

makes

> a big impression when I do talk and feel hot and flushed

afterward.)

> My question is this: for those of this group who are sensitive to

> EMFs, how much exposure do you allow yourself? Does anyone know of

a

> safe exposure level/time? Also, will this go away?

==>As your body gets stronger you won't react as badly, but it is

better if you can avoid as much EMF exposure as possible,

particularly when you sleep. Remove anything electrical away from

your bed, and try to keep your bed away from electric outlets. Use a

battery-run alarm clock, etc.

Flourescent lights are bad because they actually pull vitamin A out

of the body. You could buy good natural light bulbs for your

flourescent fixture; I think Dr. Mercola sells one. There are also

EMF protective devices you can buy; they used to be called diodes.

I've done some search on them, but I'm not sure which are the best.

If you have time you might try to look into it. Try searching

with " EMF protection. "

Luv, Bee

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> >

> > I have noticed that I am very sensitive to EMFs. I walk into any

> large

> > store and can almost *feel* something in the air, buzzing around

> me. I

> > sit at the computer and feel flushed and almost woozy from the

> > exposure. The fluorescent light in my kitchen drives me nuts. So

> does

> > talking on the cordless phone. (I'm not on the phone much so it

> makes

> > a big impression when I do talk and feel hot and flushed

> afterward.)

> > My question is this: for those of this group who are sensitive to

> > EMFs, how much exposure do you allow yourself? Does anyone know of

> a

> > safe exposure level/time? Also, will this go away?

Hi Cathe,

A bunch of people were talking about this on another forum that I am. Apparently

you can get low emission EMF phones. Here is a link to the discussion if you are

interested:

http://herballure.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat= & Board=UBB19 & Number=250203 & pag\

e=0 & view=collapsed & sb=5 & o= & fpart=1

Cheers,

Cara

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[Guest guest]

Hi Bee,

Do you have a source for the info on flourescent lights pulling vit A

out of the body? I also have a strong reaction to EMFs and flourescent

lights and I'd like to read more about this.

Thanks,

> Flourescent lights are bad because they actually pull vitamin A out

> of the body. You could buy good natural light bulbs for your

> flourescent fixture; I think Dr. Mercola sells one. There are also

> EMF protective devices you can buy; they used to be called diodes.

> I've done some search on them, but I'm not sure which are the best.

> If you have time you might try to look into it. Try searching

> with " EMF protection. "

>

> Luv, Bee

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Bee,

> Do you have a source for the info on flourescent lights pulling vit A

> out of the body? I also have a strong reaction to EMFs and

flourescent

> lights and I'd like to read more about this.

==>Yes, Adele wrote about it in her Book " Let's Eat Right to Keep

Fit " . I think you can still buy her books online, or at used book

stores. My copy was tattered and worn and I got an almost new copy for

$2.00.

Bee

[Guest guest]

On another group I'm part of, a scientist noted that the radiation from

the new compact fluorescent (CF) bulbs is most likely dangerous to the

body over long periods of exposure. Next worse is regular fluorescent

bulbs. Incandescent bulbs are not harmful. Best is sunlight, which is

beneficial.

Zack

On Mon, 17 Mar 2008, Bee wrote:

>

>>

>> Hi Bee,

>> Do you have a source for the info on flourescent lights pulling vit A

>> out of the body? I also have a strong reaction to EMFs and

> flourescent

>> lights and I'd like to read more about this.

>

> ==>Yes, Adele wrote about it in her Book " Let's Eat Right to Keep

> Fit " . I think you can still buy her books online, or at used book

> stores. My copy was tattered and worn and I got an almost new copy for

> $2.00.

>

> Bee

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Zack,

Does he have an opinion on LED bulbs? Any sources for his views?

> On another group I'm part of, a scientist noted that the radiation

from

> the new compact fluorescent (CF) bulbs is most likely dangerous to

the

> body over long periods of exposure. Next worse is regular

fluorescent

> bulbs. Incandescent bulbs are not harmful. Best is sunlight, which

is

> beneficial.

>

> Zack

[Guest guest]

The person I'm referring to is Dr. DeMeo, who is continuing the

research of Dr. Wilhelm Reich.

I believe LED lights are innocuous, like incandescent bulbs.

I think the article he wrote was in one of his quarterly newsletters. I

don't think it made its way onto the internet. I'll see if I can find it

later.

Zack

On Mon, 17 Mar 2008, kili94 wrote:

> Zack,

> Does he have an opinion on LED bulbs? Any sources for his views?

>

>

>> On another group I'm part of, a scientist noted that the radiation

> from

>> the new compact fluorescent (CF) bulbs is most likely dangerous to

> the

>> body over long periods of exposure. Next worse is regular

> fluorescent

>> bulbs. Incandescent bulbs are not harmful. Best is sunlight, which

> is

>> beneficial.

>>

>> Zack

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

When my immune system was at its lowest ebb many years back ....I got a really

bad electric shock which threw me clear across the living room (I was playing

around with a big electric heater & forgot I had the cover off when I went to

switch it off)...

Ever since then I have had a problem with electromagnetic fields ....cooking

over an electric hotplate can give me really bad brainfog if I am to close to

the hotplate for too long ....mobile phones also scramble my brain something

terrible & I dont use them ....

This problem has faded over time as my immune system came back to normal but

it hasn't faded as much as other symptoms I used to have ...I still avoid

mobile phones....but happily the sensitivity does continue to fade slowly.

Incidentally anybody who studied Physics/Electronics at college etc would

have heard of Nikola Tesla ...regarded as something of a Genius for his

discoveries & work which included electromagnetics ...

He was also one of the first well known people to suffer from electromagnetic

sensitivity ...apparently because of the huge electromagnetic fields he exposed

himself to during some of his experiments back when electromagnetics knowledge

was still in its infancy.

Electromagnetic Fields

Posted by: " Cathe Schmidt " cathe616@... cathe616

Sun Mar 16, 2008 2:37 pm (PDT)

I have noticed that I am very sensitive to EMFs. I walk into any large

store and can almost *feel* something in the air, buzzing around me. I

sit at the computer and feel flushed and almost woozy from the

exposure. The fluorescent light in my kitchen drives me nuts. So does

talking on the cordless phone. (I'm not on the phone much so it makes

a big impression when I do talk and feel hot and flushed afterward.)

My question is this: for those of this group who are sensitive to

EMFs, how much exposure do you allow yourself? Does anyone know of a

safe exposure level/time? Also, will this go away?

Thanks,

~Cathe

[Guest guest]

Weird, before I knew I had candida and I was having so many problems I

was having what I called brain zaps. I can't explain it any better than

that. It felt like current zapped through my head. It does not hurt but

I don't like it. I have not had but maybe one or two in the last month.

I used to have several a night.

Shelby

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Bee,

> Do you have a source for the info on flourescent lights pulling vit A

> out of the body? I also have a strong reaction to EMFs and

flourescent

> lights and I'd like to read more about this.

==>Yes, the source is Adele ' book " Let's Eat Right to Keep Fit " .

I don't have time to look it up right now. You may be able to find

more information in the internet if you use the right combination of

words to do a search.

Luv, Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> On another group I'm part of, a scientist noted that the radiation from

> the new compact fluorescent (CF) bulbs is most likely dangerous to the

> body over long periods of exposure. Next worse is regular fluorescent

> bulbs. Incandescent bulbs are not harmful. Best is sunlight, which is

> beneficial.

>

> Zack

>

> >> Hi Bee,

> >> Do you have a source for the info on flourescent lights pulling vit A

> >> out of the body? I also have a strong reaction to EMFs and

> > flourescent

> >> lights and I'd like to read more about this.

> >

> > ==>Yes, Adele wrote about it in her Book " Let's Eat Right to

Keep

> > Fit " .

> > Bee

So, with all this talk about lighting, what is the safest way to light

our homes. Is it incandescent bulbs, LEDs or something else? Are the

full spectrum florescent bulbs (natural light) harmful?

Any conclusions?

Thanks, Anita

[Guest guest]

I'm not sure about the full spectrum fluorescent lights. I know

incandescent and LED lights should be fine.

Let me dig up the report where I got this information and see what he

said.

Zack

On Wed, 19 Mar 2008, neets7679 wrote:

>

>>

>> On another group I'm part of, a scientist noted that the radiation from

>> the new compact fluorescent (CF) bulbs is most likely dangerous to the

>> body over long periods of exposure. Next worse is regular fluorescent

>> bulbs. Incandescent bulbs are not harmful. Best is sunlight, which is

>> beneficial.

>>

>> Zack

>>

>

>>>> Hi Bee,

>>>> Do you have a source for the info on flourescent lights pulling vit A

>>>> out of the body? I also have a strong reaction to EMFs and

>>> flourescent

>>>> lights and I'd like to read more about this.

>>>

>>> ==>Yes, Adele wrote about it in her Book " Let's Eat Right to

> Keep

>>> Fit " .

>>> Bee

>

> So, with all this talk about lighting, what is the safest way to light

> our homes. Is it incandescent bulbs, LEDs or something else? Are the

> full spectrum florescent bulbs (natural light) harmful?

> Any conclusions?

> Thanks, Anita

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Weird, before I knew I had candida and I was having so many problems

I

> was having what I called brain zaps. I can't explain it any better

than

> that. It felt like current zapped through my head. It does not hurt

but

> I don't like it. I have not had but maybe one or two in the last

month.

> I used to have several a night.

Hi Shelby. I've been following your messages even though I haven't

responded. I also had those zaps in my head when I had candida. It

was really weird like an electrical jolt; it sorta sizzled. I'm glad I

don't have that any more either!

The best, Bee