Guest guest Posted November 24, 2005 Report Share Posted November 24, 2005 Ginseng TRADITIONAL USE: Helps the body respond more quickly to stress. Stimulates the adrenal, pancreas and pituitary glands to lower blood sugar and reduce inflammation. Used for anemia, impotence, insomnia, diarrhea, low energy, increasing endurande, weak digestion and failing memory. Siberian ginseng is one of the finest adaptoger herbs prodrced by nature. Classification: Bitter herb. Warm energy. Siberian Ginseng (Eleutherococcus senticosus) is a member of the ginseng family, thorghit it is of a different genus than other popular ginsengs such as the Panax variety. Herbalists call it an acaptoher. Its name comes from the Chinese "jen shin,: which means "man root," So-named because some roots have limb like branches resembling arms and legs. Because the root has a human like shape, it is considered by Orientals to be an overall body tonic The root is not harvested until it is two or more years old; the older the root, the higher its value. It is held in high esteem in China where it has been valued for thousands of years sometimes commanding a higher price than gold. Siberian ginseng is found in the Siberian province of Russia. Many adulterated forms of ginseng exist on the market. (Nature's Sunshine) "According to studies in Russia, the high level of Physical, Spiritual, Emotional, and Mental Endurance has been attributed to the widespread use of Ginseng." (HY pg. 102) Siberian Ginseng contains Vitamins A, B-6 and the trace mineral zinc, which aids in the production ot thymic hormones, necessary for the proper functioning of the defense system. In the practice of traditional Chines medicine, this herb is thought to promote what the Chinese call "vital energy," helping to normalize bodily functions. They believe that Siberian Genseng helps to maintain excellent bodily functions. Regular use will improve general health and restore lost vigor. (The Herbalist, Spring 1997) FACTS: Gineng--or len seng in Mandarin--literally means "root of man," so named because the root of this plant resembles the shape of a human body. For the past two decades, ginseng has been touted as a "wonder drug." Many athletes swear that it gives them the competitive edge. Woman drink it to alleviate hot flashes and some of the more unpleasant signs of menopause. And millions of others use it as a stimulant and a tonic. Indeed, the reverence in which some hold ginseng is reflected in its botanical name panax, which is derived from the Greek word for panacea. Although we may credit ourselves with discovering this herb, in reality, the Chinese have been using it for more than five thousand years! Ginseng was mentioned in the Shennong Herbal (compiled between the first and second centuries B.C.) as a "superior drug" suitable for long-term use without toxic effects. The Chinese were referring to panax ginseng, a variety grown in China. Today, there are three different herbs that fall under the label ginseng. In addition to panax, American ginseng or Panax quinquefolius is very popular in China. What is called Siberian ginseng or Eleutherococcus senticosus is technically not ginseng at all, but has many of the same properties of ginseng and is therefore used the same way. Although all forms of ginseng have similar properties, there are some subtle differences. Western interest in ginseng began in the 1960's when researchers in China, the Soviet Union, Japan, and other European countries began to take a serious look at this herb. In 1969, Soviet scientist I.I. Berkhman PhD reported that Soviet soldiers who took ginseng extract were able to run faster in a 3 kilometer race than another group given a placebo. Dr. Berkhman was the first to call ginseng an adaptogen, which he described as basically any substance that enables the body to better cope with stress. According to Dr. Brekhman, an adaptogen has the unique ability of being able to normalize body functions. For instance, if blood sugar levels drop too low, or if blood pressure climbs too high, an adaptogen will bring back the normal levels. In his writings Dr. Brekhman has noted that adaptogens work best on people who are neither in peak condition nor in poor health. Rather, they appear to do the most for people who fall somewhere in between those extremes. Studies in Japan showed that mice who were fed ginseng learned to perform tasks at a faster rate and made fewer mistakes after taking ginseng. In the 1970s, Japanese researchers found that rats who were fed a high-cholesterol diet showed a drop in cholesterol--especially LDL, or "bad" cholesterol--and a rise in beneficial HDL cholesterol after being given ginseng. A recent study at the Defense Institute of Physiology abd Allied Sciences in Delhi, India, showed that rats given ginseng were better able to endure high altitudes and cold temperatures than control rats. Another study at Japan's Kanazawa University found that unpurified saponins from panax ginseng not only inhibited the growth of cancer cells but actually converted the diseased cells into normal cells. Undoubtedly, further studies will be done to determine if some form of ginseng can be used as a cancer treatment. There have been very few studies of ginseng done in the United States. One famous negative report published in the Journal of the American Medical Association described the so-called Ginseng Abuse Syndrome. The Article said that heavy users of ginseng were subject to hypertension, nervousness, and insomnia, among other ills. The study, however included people who took all forms of ginseng--root , powder, extract--as well as those who abused ginseng by injecting it into their veins. The article did not differentiate between caffeine users and noncaffeine users---another substance that could cause similar effects--and is considered by knowledgeable herbal researchers to be completely off-base. Long before ginseng was studied by the scientific community, Chinese healers were prescribing ginseng to normalize blood pressure, improve blood circulation, and prevent heart decease, among other things. For centuries, ginseng has been purported to be an aphrodisiac, although this claim has never been seriously studied. Many people who take ginseng do find that it has a stimulating effect on the body, increasing their energy and stamina. Ginseng is believed to increase estrogen levels in women and therefore is often recommended for menopausal symptoms caused by a drop in estrogen production. The main active ingredients in ginseng are called ginsenosides. The higher the quantity of ginsenosides, the better the quality of the ginseng. CHINESE FACTS: Books have been written about this amazing herb, known as the "King of Tonics." The Chinese rever ginseng. A Chinese herbalist from 200 B.C. said it best when he wrote that ginseng can "vitalize the five organs, calm the nerves, stop palpitations due to fright, brighten vision, increase intellect and with long-term use, prolong life and make one feel young." CAUTION: Some people may find panax ginseng too stimulating, especially if used before bedtime. Therefore, use early in the day.. High doses may make you feel jittery. Do not exceed 5 to 10 grams daily. In rare cases, some people may develop headaches or high blood pressure from panax ginseng. If you have high blood pressure, check with your doctor before using this product. Take ginseng one hour before or after eating. Vitamin C can interfere with the absorption of ginseng. If you take a vitamin C supplement, wait two hours before or after taking ginseng to do so. In rare cases, ginseng can cause vaginal bleeding in menopausal women, which isn't dangerous but could be mistaken as a symptom of uterine cancer. If you experience any vaginal bleeding, however, be sure to notify your doctor, and be sure to tell him or her that you are taking ginseng. PERSONAL NOTE: There are two types of ginseng--red and white--which reflect differences in the processing of the root. White ginseng is simply cleaned and dried; thus, it retains its natural white color. Red ginseng is steamed with a solution of herbs and is considered of superior quality. There have been many reports of diluted or adulterated ginseng products. Your best bet is to buy standardized, guaranteed potency ginseng from a reputable company. In addition, keep in mind that the ginseng-flavored soft drinks that are sold in many health food stores do not offer any of the benefits of true ginseng. (Dr. Earl Mindell's Herb Bible) Ginseng is a human shaped root that is one of the most popular healing herbs of the East and West. It is commonly used as an adaptogen, meaning it normalizes physical functioning regardless of direction (for example, it will lower high blood pressure, but raise low blood pressure). It is also taken to reduce the effects of stress, improve performance, boost energy levels, enhance memory, and stimulate the immune system. Ginseng protects cells from damage by radiation and toxic substances. It is not as stimulating as herbs containing caffeine or ephedrine, but may be too strong for some people. It is also used for impotence (it stimulates the male sex glands), stress (strengthens the adrenal glands), energy, diabetes, radiation protection, colds, and chest problems. Ginseng promotes lung function, enhances the immune system, stimulates the appetite, and normalizes blood pressure. (Herbal Information center) USES: It stimulates the energy of the entire body. Circulatory system, brain function, normalize blood pressure, reduce cholesterol in the blood. It is considered to be a cure-all. Ginseng has a stimulating effect on the gonads and central nervous system. (Health Trek) Suzi What is a weed? A plant whose virtues have not yet been discovered. health/ www.onegrp.com/?mamanott organic cosmetics http://suziesgoats.wholefoodfarmacy.com/ Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 I'd taste a cup, and then throw it out.. :-)JROn Jun 20, 2008, at 2:26 PM, Rodney wrote:Hi folks:Someone who knows I am interested in health decided to give me a box of ginseng tea. I have always assumed that ginseng is just a moderized variation of snake oil. But if someone here has good reason to believe otherwise please let me know and I will not throw it out!Thank you.Rodney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2008 Report Share Posted June 21, 2008 I take these three ginseng combined and it is good and I take them 2 - 3 times a week. korean gingeng american gingeng siberian gingeng usually I can run for like 7 miles but with these I can for 9-10 miles. though it makes u very aggresive and sometimes sleep difficulties but before doing exercise if u take it, your exercise will be good and also ur aggretion will be on the exercise and after exercise u are tired and hence u overcome the sleeping difficulties too so i would recommed it. it will make u atleast 10-15 younger . Take it and do some physical exercise .. and u get the best of everything Alok ________________________________ > > From: robertsjohnh@... > Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 15:11:26 -0500 > Subject: Re: [ ] Ginseng > > > I'd taste a cup, and then throw it out.. :-) > > JR > On Jun 20, 2008, at 2:26 PM, Rodney wrote: > > > > Hi folks: > > Someone who knows I am interested in health decided to give me a box of ginseng tea. I have always assumed that ginseng is just a moderized variation of snake oil. But if someone here has good reason to believe otherwise please let me know and I will not throw it out! > > Thank you. > > Rodney. > > > > _________________________________________________________________ The i’m Talkathon starts 6/24/08. For now, give amongst yourselves. http://www.imtalkathon.com?source=TXT_EML_WLH_LearnMore_GiveAmongst Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2008 Report Share Posted June 21, 2008 I took ginsing when it was popularized many years ago. Never noticed a darn thing. I found it useless. Of course these things are not regulated and who knows how much of the stuff or what kind of quality you’re getting. From: Rodney <perspect1111@...> Reply-< > Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 19:26:52 -0000 < > Subject: [ ] Ginseng Hi folks: Someone who knows I am interested in health decided to give me a box of ginseng tea. I have always assumed that ginseng is just a moderized variation of snake oil. But if someone here has good reason to believe otherwise please let me know and I will not throw it out! Thank you. Rodney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2008 Report Share Posted June 21, 2008 Oh good grief I'LL drink it!!! I don't feel like running at all today CR --- <robertsjohnh@...> wrote: > Gee that's remarkable.. I only ran 5 miles today so > with ginseng I > could have run 7-8? In the same time? Or at the 5 > mile pace taking > 20% more time? All these questions and no data? > > I bet that would be useful at the upcoming > olympics in China. I > seem to recall their distance runners playing with > sundry herbal > sports enhancement in games past. Some athletes had > problems with > liver damage IIRC. Not Ginseng probably. > > At 59 " being " 10-15 years younger seems like a good > thing and quite > impossible. Does it make me forget what I've learned > in last 10-15 > years? or does it make me feel younger... whatever > that means? > > I am a little skeptical... Rodney maybe you need to > drink the tea and > see how many miles you can run. > > JR > > > > > > On Jun 20, 2008, at 7:10 PM, alok singh wrote: > > > > > I take these three ginseng combined and it is good > and I take them > > 2 - 3 times a week. > > > > korean gingeng > > american gingeng > > siberian gingeng > > > > usually I can run for like 7 miles but with these > I can for 9-10 > > miles. > > though it makes u very aggresive and sometimes > sleep difficulties > > > > but before doing exercise if u take it, your > exercise will be good > > and also > > ur aggretion will be on the exercise and after > exercise u are tired > > and hence u overcome the sleeping difficulties too > > > > so i would recommed it. it will make u atleast > 10-15 younger . > > Take it and do some physical exercise .. and u get > the best of > > everything > > > > > > Alok > > ________________________________ > >> > >> From: robertsjohnh@... > >> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 15:11:26 -0500 > >> Subject: Re: [ ] Ginseng > >> > >> > >> I'd taste a cup, and then throw it out.. :-) > >> > >> JR > >> On Jun 20, 2008, at 2:26 PM, Rodney wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> Hi folks: > >> > >> Someone who knows I am interested in health > decided to give me a > >> box of ginseng tea. I have always assumed that > ginseng is just a > >> moderized variation of snake oil. But if someone > here has good > >> reason to believe otherwise please let me know > and I will not > >> throw it out! > >> > >> Thank you. > >> > >> Rodney. > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > The i’m Talkathon starts 6/24/08. For now, give > amongst yourselves. > > > http://www.imtalkathon.com?source=TXT_EML_WLH_LearnMore_GiveAmongst > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2008 Report Share Posted June 21, 2008 I agree with , Rodney. Drink the tea and see what happens. I'll be waiting with baited breath! <robertsjohnh@...> wrote: Gee that's remarkable.. I only ran 5 miles today so with ginseng I could have run 7-8? In the same time? Or at the 5 mile pace taking 20% more time? All these questions and no data?I bet that would be useful at the upcoming olympics in China. I seem to recall their distance runners playing with sundry herbal sports enhancement in games past. Some athletes had problems with liver damage IIRC. Not Ginseng probably.At 59 "being" 10-15 years younger seems like a good thing and quite impossible. Does it make me forget what I've learned in last 10-15 years? or does it make me feel younger... whatever that means?I am a little skeptical... Rodney maybe you need to drink the tea and see how many miles you can run.JROn Jun 20, 2008, at 7:10 PM, alok singh wrote:>> I take these three ginseng combined and it is good and I take them > 2 - 3 times a week.>> korean gingeng> american gingeng> siberian gingeng>> usually I can run for like 7 miles but with these I can for 9-10 > miles.> though it makes u very aggresive and sometimes sleep difficulties>> but before doing exercise if u take it, your exercise will be good > and also> ur aggretion will be on the exercise and after exercise u are tired > and hence u overcome the sleeping difficulties too>> so i would recommed it. it will make u atleast 10-15 younger .> Take it and do some physical exercise .. and u get the best of > everything>>> Alok> ________________________________>> >> From: robertsjohnh@...>> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 15:11:26 -0500>> Subject: Re: [ ] Ginseng>>>>>> I'd taste a cup, and then throw it out.. :-)>>>> JR>> On Jun 20, 2008, at 2:26 PM, Rodney wrote:>>>>>>>> Hi folks:>>>> Someone who knows I am interested in health decided to give me a >> box of ginseng tea. I have always assumed that ginseng is just a >> moderized variation of snake oil. But if someone here has good >> reason to believe otherwise please let me know and I will not >> throw it out!>>>> Thank you.>>>> Rodney.>>>>>>>>>> _________________________________________________________________> The i’m Talkathon starts 6/24/08. For now, give amongst yourselves.> http://www.imtalkathon.com?source=TXT_EML_WLH_LearnMore_GiveAmongst>> ------------------------------------>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2008 Report Share Posted June 21, 2008 http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/natural/patient-ginseng.html duke's lists 10 types: http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/duke/farmacy-scroll3.pl with all the anti Hypertensive chemicals, you'd think it'd be good for HTN. non-ubiquitous chems: GINSENOSIDE-R-O Plant: DUKE1992A Antiinflammatory 10-200 mg/kg orl PM56(1):19 GINSENOSIDE-RB-1 Plant: DUKE1992A Antitumor EMP6:189 ; Antiulcer W & W ; Calcium-Antagonist 200 uM; CNS-Sedative 411 ; ... Vasodilator KCH GINSENOSIDE-RB-2 Plant: DUKE1992A Calcium-Antagonist 200 uM; GINSENOSIDE-RC Plant: DUKE1992A Calcium-Antagonist 200 uM J15284 ; Prostaglandin-Synthesis-Inhibitor 500 ug/ml KJG16:69 ; Vasodilator KCH GINSENOSIDE-RD Plant: DUKE1992A GINSENOSIDE-RE Plant: DUKE1992A Calcium-Antagonist 200 uM; Vasodilator KCH GINSENOSIDE-RF Plant: DUKE1992A Antitumor JBH ; Calcium-Antagonist 60-200 uM IC50=40 uM rat K23161 ; GINSENOSIDE-RG Plant: DUKE1992A Vasodilator KCH GINSENOSIDE-RG-1 Plant: DUKE1992A Antifatigue W & W ; Antitumor JBH ; Calcium-Antagonist 200 uM; CNS-Stimulant W & W ; ; Vasodilator KCH GINSENOSIDE-RG-2 Plant: DUKE1992A Calcium-Antagonist 60-200 uM; Regards [ ] Ginseng Hi folks: Someone who knows I am interested in health decided to give me a box of ginseng tea. I have always assumed that ginseng is just a moderized variation of snake oil. But if someone here has good reason to believe otherwise please let me know and I will not throw it out! Thank you. Rodney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2008 Report Share Posted June 21, 2008 Hi folks: LOL. Well I drank some of the ginseng tea. It is almost tasteless - tastes not quite as good as warm water. I am still alive, though, which is very encouraging. I think I will dump it and before buying more await peer-reviewed research disclosing that it is the cure for every ailment I do not have. Rodney. > >>> >>> >>> >> Hi folks:> >>> >> Someone who knows I am interested in health decided to give me a > >> box of ginseng tea. I have always assumed that ginseng is just a > >> moderized variation of snake oil. But if someone here has good > >> reason to believe otherwise please let me know and I will not > >> throw it out!> >>> >> Thank you.> >>> >> Rodney.> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > _________________________________________________________________> > The i'm Talkathon starts 6/24/08. For now, give amongst yourselves.> > http://www.imtalkathon.com?source=TXT_EML_WLH_LearnMore_GiveAmongst> >> > ------------------------------------> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2008 Report Share Posted June 23, 2008 Hi Alok: I was hoping someone might know of some serious published research on ginseng. If someone did it with 100 subjects and showed they all could run ten miles, I would start to pay attention. Rodney. > > > > > > > > Hi folks:> > > > Someone who knows I am interested in health decided to give me a box of ginseng tea. I have always assumed that ginseng is just a moderized variation of snake oil. But if someone here has good reason to believe otherwise please let me know and I will not throw it out!> > > > Thank you.> > > > Rodney.> > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________> The i'm Talkathon starts 6/24/08. For now, give amongst yourselves.> http://www.imtalkathon.com?source=TXT_EML_WLH_LearnMore_GiveAmongst> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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