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Re probiotics, see Orthoplex's Multiflora, available through

bioconcepts

(http://www.bioconcepts.com.au/index.php?p=products & product_id=71).

There's a link on the side for distributor's in your state, but I

think it's practitioner-only product so you may need to find a

naturopath or wholistic GP to order it for you.

>

> Hi Bee, it's been 7 months completely on the diet now. After my

> initial rapid improvements I documented months ago (based on what I

> thought to be a 2 or 3 year candida infection) I have come to realize

> that my infection has been for much longer, perhaps, like many of us,

> from birth. I am happy to say though, that your plan is indeed

> working, i am extremely diligent and haven't cheated in 7 months. A

> lot of my symptoms have subsided, but i am still battling the classics

> (oral thrush, which i know is one of the last to leave). Several

> months ago i was taking raw garlic and coconut oil, however i stopped

> garlic and have since only been taking coconut oil, i take 6

> tablespoons or more a day now and do not get die-off reactions. As a

> result i have decided to proceed to the next step, that is adding

> another anti-fungal (the Now brand Clove oil is in the post!). Is this

> a sensible step to take at this point in the program?

>

> My concern however is the step after that, being probiotics. In

> Australia we have a VERY limited number of dairy-free probiotics (as

> few as 4 i think!), and furthermore, i believe all of them (still

> researching 1 brand though) have some sort of 'rice flour' base (which

> of coarse is not mentioned on the label and you have to research

> online to discover). My question is, are these rice flour based

> probiotics ok? i mean obviously it would be better to take them

> without rice flour, but with such a limited choice i am feeling

> pressured to do so. Is it safe to import probiotics??? or does the

> shipping/xrays etc damage the flora? I know you will recommend

> saurkraut but i am hopeless at following instructions, hopeless in the

> kitchen, and hopelessly impatient.

>

> Also a question i have always pondered... Does our body 'produce' good

> bacteria? Meaning, if i decided not to take these rice-flour

> probiotics and just plug away at the anti-fungal program and diet,

> will i eventually recover, or will it be a constant battle against

> candida overgrowth?

>

> My apologies for the length.

>

> Bee, you do such a wonderful job.

>

> Kind regards,

>

> .

>

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Hi and Bee,

I have been on Bee's diet for a little over a month, but have been on a yeast

free diet (very similar-except I had to take out nuts from my diet) for about 7

months too. I have started this for oral candida and worry becuase sometimes it

get's much worse for no reason. I have heard that oral candida is usually the

first to clear up, and you say it's the last- is this what Bee has stated? I am

worried that I will never be able to taste foods fully again and this taste in

my mouth is so frustrating. What have you found to help with the oral candida?

(I use coconut oil, clove oil, baking soda, nystatin) But I still have a long

way to go. I feel so discouraged when I have setbacks becuase I have not

cheated on my diet at all. Please share your experience.

Thanks,

Heidi

nathan_kellett <nathan_kellett@...> wrote:

Hi Bee, it's been 7 months completely on the diet now. After my

initial rapid improvements I documented months ago (based on what I

thought to be a 2 or 3 year candida infection) I have come to realize

that my infection has been for much longer, perhaps, like many of us,

from birth. I am happy to say though, that your plan is indeed

working, i am extremely diligent and haven't cheated in 7 months. A

lot of my symptoms have subsided, but i am still battling the classics

(oral thrush, which i know is one of the last to leave). Several

months ago i was taking raw garlic and coconut oil, however i stopped

garlic and have since only been taking coconut oil, i take 6

tablespoons or more a day now and do not get die-off reactions. As a

result i have decided to proceed to the next step, that is adding

another anti-fungal (the Now brand Clove oil is in the post!). Is this

a sensible step to take at this point in the program?

My concern however is the step after that, being probiotics. In

Australia we have a VERY limited number of dairy-free probiotics (as

few as 4 i think!), and furthermore, i believe all of them (still

researching 1 brand though) have some sort of 'rice flour' base (which

of coarse is not mentioned on the label and you have to research

online to discover). My question is, are these rice flour based

probiotics ok? i mean obviously it would be better to take them

without rice flour, but with such a limited choice i am feeling

pressured to do so. Is it safe to import probiotics??? or does the

shipping/xrays etc damage the flora? I know you will recommend

saurkraut but i am hopeless at following instructions, hopeless in the

kitchen, and hopelessly impatient.

Also a question i have always pondered... Does our body 'produce' good

bacteria? Meaning, if i decided not to take these rice-flour

probiotics and just plug away at the anti-fungal program and diet,

will i eventually recover, or will it be a constant battle against

candida overgrowth?

My apologies for the length.

Bee, you do such a wonderful job.

Kind regards,

.

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>

> Hi Bee, it's been 7 months completely on the diet now. After my

> initial rapid improvements I documented months ago (based on what I

> thought to be a 2 or 3 year candida infection) I have come to

realize

> that my infection has been for much longer, perhaps, like many of

us,

> from birth. I am happy to say though, that your plan is indeed

> working, i am extremely diligent and haven't cheated in 7 months.

==>Wow ! Good for you! I'm so happy the plan is working!!

> A lot of my symptoms have subsided, but i am still battling the

classics (oral thrush, which i know is one of the last to leave).

Several months ago i was taking raw garlic and coconut oil, however i

stopped garlic and have since only been taking coconut oil, i take 6

> tablespoons or more a day now and do not get die-off reactions. As a

> result i have decided to proceed to the next step, that is adding

> another anti-fungal (the Now brand Clove oil is in the post!). Is

this a sensible step to take at this point in the program?

==>Yes, that is a sensible step to take at this point . Just

add one (1) antifungal. Clove oil is less expensive than oil of

oregano, and garlic gives off garlic breath.

>

> My concern however is the step after that, being probiotics. In

> Australia we have a VERY limited number of dairy-free probiotics (as

> few as 4 i think!), and furthermore, i believe all of them (still

> researching 1 brand though) have some sort of 'rice flour' base

(which

> of coarse is not mentioned on the label and you have to research

> online to discover). My question is, are these rice flour based

> probiotics ok? i mean obviously it would be better to take them

> without rice flour, but with such a limited choice i am feeling

> pressured to do so. Is it safe to import probiotics??? or does the

> shipping/xrays etc damage the flora? I know you will recommend

> saurkraut but i am hopeless at following instructions, hopeless in

the kitchen, and hopelessly impatient.

==>Probiotics are grown on many different types of mediums, but the

end result is not the same as the medium, i.e. rice. Yes zapping

with radiation or x-rays does damage probiotics. You would have to

check with the specific carrier as to whether they zap their

shipments or not; some do and some don't.

==>Yes, the best probiotic is cabbage rejuvelac. My brother, who is

60 years old made two batches of it as soon as he got the recipe, and

they turned out great. It was during summer so he realized his cabin

would be too hot, so he put the jars in his camper trailer which was

cooler. It isn't hard to make once you done it once. Over time it

becomes very routine as well.

>

> Also a question i have always pondered... Does our body 'produce'

good bacteria? Meaning, if i decided not to take these rice-flour

> probiotics and just plug away at the anti-fungal program and diet,

> will i eventually recover, or will it be a constant battle against

> candida overgrowth?

==>Your body will normalize and produce its own probiotics as you get

your immune system built up. In fact you could do only the diet and

supplements, and no antifungals and no probiotics, and you would

still become healthy. The key is " nutrients " which will give the

body what it needs to " heal itself. "

> My apologies for the length.

==>No problem .

>

> Bee, you do such a wonderful job.

==>Thank you my dear friend. Keep on keeping on and you will succeed!

The best always, Bee

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>

> Hi and Bee,

> I have been on Bee's diet for a little over a month, but have been

on a yeast free diet (very similar-except I had to take out nuts from

my diet) for about 7 months too. I have started this for oral candida

and worry becuase sometimes it get's much worse for no reason. I have

heard that oral candida is usually the first to clear up, and you say

it's the last- is this what Bee has stated? I am worried that I will

never be able to taste foods fully again and this taste in my mouth is

so frustrating. What have you found to help with the oral candida? (I

use coconut oil, clove oil, baking soda, nystatin) But I still have a

long way to go. I feel so discouraged when I have setbacks becuase I

have not cheated on my diet at all. Please share your experience.

==>Hi Heidi. Many members of this group have followed other diets

without success and that is mainly because they do not get the

high " good " fats the body requires in order to cleanse, construct the

cell membranes properly, and to aid digestion, and provide many other

benefits good saturated fats do.

As you progress your body will re-trace previous episodes with mouth

thrush (oral candida) as well, which is according to Hering's Law of

Cures that I write about in my candida articles.

Believe me as you build up your immune system your body will normalize

so you will be able to taste foods fully again. I had horrible mouth

problems, including oral thrush, aphus ulcers, abcesses, canker sores,

etc. but they all cleared up! Do not lose hope when you get such

symptoms again and again - your body has a reason for retracing

previous symptoms so it can remove toxins and re-build the area.

It doesn't mean your oral thrush will be the last thing to heal. It is

different for each person. The last thing to heal for me was my

vaginal yeast, which took me over 2 1/2 years. I had it for over 25

years so it makes sense that it took the longest.

The best in health, Bee