Guest guest Posted April 1, 2008 Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 I'm feeling so confused right now (what else is new? LOL!). I saw my psychiatrist yesterday, and told him I'd like to try tapering off the prozac a little (I also take Wellbutrin). He said he doesn't think it's a good idea at all. I had gotten off of all meds at the end of last year, and in December I ended up in a pit of depression. I panicked and started the prozac back up. I had been taking amino acids for the depression (my naturopath told me to try them) and they didn't work. Anyway, my psychiatrist told me that I should definitely stay on the prescription anti-depressants, even though I am feeling better now, because he thinks I'll " crash and burn " . I told him too bad, I want to try weaning off the prozac. I'm staying on the Wellbutrin for now, because I don't think I'm doing THAT well, and I can't chance going back into that black hole. But if I can just get rid of even some of the chemicals that are polluting my body, I figure that's better than nothing. He then told me that since I have Crohn's, and Crohn's and depression go hand in hand, he thinks the Crohn's will get a lot worse if I stop the meds too. Then he said something that totally confused me. He said there is new research that depression might be an auto-immune disease, like Crohn's. If he believes this, why on earth am I taking anti-depressants?? As usual, I was confused and overwhelmed and didn't ask. Along with the anti-depressants, I am also taking the Crohn's med I mentioned here before (cholestyramine), which is a powder packed with either sugar or NutraSweet (I have the NutraSweet kind, because I thought at the time that it was healthier). I have to take a scoop of that every morning mixed in orange juice. I also take meds for high blood pressure and high triglycerides. My levels are always perfect so I asked my GP if I could ever come off these meds and she said no, my levels will get too high again. I've heard lots of people say that when they get their health under control with this diet, they've been able to come off some meds. I don't understand how, as my doctor seems to think I should take these for life. Maybe I'll just have to stop them myself without telling her, then if my levels are still normal, I can tell her I stopped them? Anyway, I'm not ready to do that just yet. I'm just feeling like maybe I shouldn't even bother trying to do this diet, what with all the other crap in my body that I can't get rid of right now. I don't see how I can ever feel better when I am full of chemicals. Anyone ever have a similar experience? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2008 Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 It's your body... not your doctor's... not your psychiatrist's. You don't have to ask their permission for everything as if you were a student in elementary school asking to go to the bathroom. They are treating symptoms... not causes. The more symptoms you treat, the more entrenched the cause becomes. Many of us know about depression... believe me! And many of us know that antidepressants cause more problems than the original condition. Your psych is onto something... depression is related to our failing immune systems. Do you think God made a mistake in the human race, and many of us are deficient in something that only anti-depressants can give us? Or can you extrapolate that perhaps we have been doing something to ourselves that has caused an epedemic of depression, obesity, heart disease, allergies, asthma, etc....??? Come off slowly... but come off! Doug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 Dear Phyllis I'm sorry you're feeling so sad recently. Remember, your life is not defined just by your face. Those kids love you no matter what & would like to see you smile. I used cod liver oil on explosive red sores after taking too much Ibuprofen. It was the only relief & healer I used. Put the CLO on several times a day. Best to you, Susie > > Dearest Bee and Group, I am feeling very sad today. I sent the kids to the park so they don't have to see me crying as this has become a weekly thing. My face is so hard to look at. There are red marks everywhere. I have been preying and keeping my faith, sticking to the eating plan very well-never a cheat, I do my enemas, epsom baths and my disgestion is great,nails look great, sleep is much better but my face... it makes me feel so sad. I know there are no quick measures. I've had acne cystically for a year now-it's been a nuisance for years before that but I'm convinced that the makeup I was using made it come to the cystic point. While it's freeing not to wear makeup it is also confining and every time I think it's calming down I see a new spot. Yesterday was only 2 weeks bismuth oxycloride free and tomorrow will be 5 weeks on the supplements and 6 weeks eating the Bee way. Bee, I read so many horror stories of women not getting relief from bismuth anywhere from 2 weeks to 6 months. Please, is it possible that I could recover a bit quiker than 6 months from following your plan. I'm so tired of crying. I'm trying so hard to be strong especially for my kids. Also, the cod liver oil as a spot treatment-what exactly is that supposed to do because I'm not really seeing too much of an improvement. Thank you, Phyllis > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 > > Thank you for the support. I think it needs to be understood that my being upset is not just from toxins it has to do with looking in the mirror. This is something I try not to do a lot lately. +++Hi Phyllis. I understand how upsetting it can be to look at your face. My heart goes out to you with having to go through this. Also, Bee when you say you don't expect me to recover in 6 months, well neither do I But, I have only had this acne issue cystically for 1 year. Isn't is supposed to work its way backwards (which is one of the things that relieves me) and therefore I'd probably have another 2-3 weeks to go to see some relief--I must remind you that this never became cystic until I started using makeup that contains bismuth oxychloride which is all over the internet as a known contributor to cystic acne. I'm interested in knowing if you think I could heal quicker than some of the depressing stories I've read where women have claimed it can take up to 6 months to go away--of course, they are not on your plan. By the way, I only stopped using the bismuth makeup 15 days ago.that is why I say another 2-3 weeks cystically. +++Your logic on the timing is good, so hopefully your skin will be better in 2-3 weeks. What helps detoxification the most are the high " good " fats on my program, which are the very best antioxidants in the World. +++It would also help you to do coffee enemas, dry skin brushing (or some other mild exercise), and Epsom Salt baths. Keep me posted. Luv & Hugs, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2009 Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 > > Dearest Bee and Group, I am feeling very sad today. I sent the kids to the park so they don't have to see me crying as this has become a weekly thing. @@@ Hi Phyllis @@@ Crying is OK, that is why you have tears. My face is so hard to look at. There are red marks everywhere. I have been preying and keeping my faith, sticking to the eating plan very well-never a cheat, @@@ Consider smiling when you look at your face. It's a sign that you are getting healthy and good job on not cheating and you will be rewarded. Phyllis, those red marks are junk coming out and that's a good thing. I do my enemas, epsom baths and my disgestion is great,nails look great, sleep is much better but my face... it makes me feel so sad. I know there are no quick measures. I've had acne cystically for a year now-it's been a nuisance for years before that but I'm convinced that the makeup I was using made it come to the cystic point. While it's freeing not to wear makeup it is also confining and every time I think it's calming down I see a new spot. @@@ We humans, so vain and more good work with the enemas and there you are making improvements. As you heal from the inside out, (sleep is on the inside and our skin is on the outside)you will have these episodes of better to worse and your body will lead you out to excellent health. Yesterday was only 2 weeks bismuth oxycloride free and tomorrow will be 5 weeks on the supplements and 6 weeks eating the Bee way. Bee, I read so many horror stories of women not getting relief from bismuth anywhere from 2 weeks to 6 months. @@@ Don't believe stories about other folks, (that probably eat junk) taking a long period of time to heal. Worrying doesn't make the time pass any faster. Please, is it possible that I could recover a bit quiker than 6 months from following your plan. I'm so tired of crying. I'm trying so hard to be strong especially for my kids. Also, the cod liver oil as a spot treatment-what exactly is that supposed to do because I'm not really seeing too much of an improvement. Thank you, @@@ Are you absolutely sure that toxins are not being taken away with your tears? It could be possible that you could recover a bit quicker and better to enjoy the trip so you can enjoy the destination. Phyllis Neal with " staying the course " speech. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2009 Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 > > > > Dearest Bee and Group, I am feeling very sad today. I sent the kids to the park so they don't have to see me crying as this has become a weekly thing. > > @@@ Hi Phyllis > > @@@ Crying is OK, that is why you have tears. > > My face is so hard to look at. There are red marks everywhere. I have been preying and keeping my faith, sticking to the eating plan very well-never a cheat, > > @@@ Consider smiling when you look at your face. It's a sign that you are getting healthy and good job on not cheating and you will be rewarded. Phyllis, those red marks are junk coming out and that's a good thing. > I do my enemas, epsom baths and my disgestion is great,nails look great, sleep is much better but my face... it makes me feel so sad. I know there are no quick measures. I've had acne cystically for a year now-it's been a nuisance for years before that but I'm convinced that the makeup I was using made it come to the cystic point. While it's freeing not to wear makeup it is also confining and every time I think it's calming down I see a new spot. > > @@@ We humans, so vain and more good work with the enemas and there you are making improvements. As you heal from the inside out, (sleep is on the inside and our skin is on the outside)you will have these episodes of better to worse and your body will lead you out to excellent health. > > Yesterday was only 2 weeks bismuth oxycloride free and tomorrow will be 5 weeks on the supplements and 6 weeks eating the Bee way. Bee, I read so many horror stories of women not getting relief from bismuth anywhere from 2 weeks to 6 months. > > @@@ Don't believe stories about other folks, (that probably eat junk) taking a long period of time to heal. Worrying doesn't make the time pass any faster. > > Please, is it possible that I could recover a bit quiker than 6 months from following your plan. I'm so tired of crying. I'm trying so hard to be strong especially for my kids. Also, the cod liver oil as a spot treatment-what exactly is that supposed to do because I'm not really seeing too much of an improvement. Thank you, > > @@@ Are you absolutely sure that toxins are not being taken away with your tears? It could be possible that you could recover a bit quicker and better to enjoy the trip so you can enjoy the destination. > Phyllis > > Neal with " staying the course " speech. > > > Thank you! I know we shouldn't always say it because it takes room away but I had to say it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 > > Dearest Bee and Group, I am feeling very sad today. I sent the kids to the park so they don't have to see me crying as this has become a weekly thing. My face is so hard to look at. There are red marks everywhere. I have been preying and keeping my faith, sticking to the eating plan very well-never a cheat, I do my enemas, epsom baths and my disgestion is great,nails look great, sleep is much better but my face... it makes me feel so sad. I know there are no quick measures. I've had acne cystically for a year now-it's been a nuisance for years before that but I'm convinced that the makeup I was using made it come to the cystic point. While it's freeing not to wear makeup it is also confining and every time I think it's calming down I see a new spot. Yesterday was only 2 weeks bismuth oxycloride free and tomorrow will be 5 weeks on the supplements and 6 weeks eating the Bee way. Bee, I read so many horror stories of women not getting relief from bismuth anywhere from 2 weeks to 6 months. Please, is it possible that I could recover a bit quiker than 6 months from following your plan. I'm so tired of crying. I'm trying so hard to be strong especially for my kids. Also, the cod liver oil as a spot treatment-what exactly is that supposed to do because I'm not really seeing too much of an improvement. Thank you, Phyllis > > __________________ Hi Phyllis, I'm way behind reading my digests from Bee's group. We've been traveling. But I wanted to write to you about your issue with acne. I was wondering if you've tried steam or sauna heat to help bring the acne out? I really don't know what I'm talking about here...my acne occurred years ago during my teenage years...so please excuse me if there is a wealth of information that advises against this. I was just thinking that it might help the toxins come to the surface and dissipate. I understand a tiny bit of how you must feel. I wore make-up, even to bed, for years as I was embarrassed about my ruddy complexion and dark circles around my eyes. I still have the dark circles, but my skin is much improved and I'm not even totally on Bee's program yet. You WILL get there. And " there " will be " here " before you know it! Along the healing journey, maybe you could also use meditation as a tool for healing. Think good thoughts about what a gorgeous complexion you're going to have! Visualize feeling great and LOOKING great! Here's a quote I recently read. I thought it might help you get through this painful time. Remember the old addage " as a man thinketh, so is he " ? " Watch your thoughts; they become words. Watch your words; they become actions. Watch your actions; they become habits. Watch your habits; they become character. Watch your character; it becomes your destiny. " —Lao-Tze W Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 > > > > Dearest Bee and Group, I am feeling very sad today. I sent > the kids to the park so they don't have to see me crying as this has > become a weekly thing. My face is so hard to look at. There are red > marks everywhere. I have been preying and keeping my faith, sticking to > the eating plan very well-never a cheat, I do my enemas, epsom baths > and my disgestion is great,nails look great, sleep is much better but > my face... it makes me feel so sad. I know there are no quick measures. > I've had acne cystically for a year now-it's been a nuisance for years > before that but I'm convinced that the makeup I was using made it come > to the cystic point. While it's freeing not to wear makeup it is also > confining and every time I think it's calming down I see a new spot. > Yesterday was only 2 weeks bismuth oxycloride free and tomorrow will be > 5 weeks on the supplements and 6 weeks eating the Bee way. Bee, I read > so many horror stories of women not getting relief from bismuth > anywhere from 2 weeks to 6 months. Please, is it possible that I could > recover a bit quiker than 6 months from following your plan. I'm so > tired of crying. I'm trying so hard to be strong especially for my > kids. Also, the cod liver oil as a spot treatment-what exactly is that > supposed to do because I'm not really seeing too much of an > improvement. Thank you, Phyllis > > > > > __________________ > > Hi Phyllis, > > I'm way behind reading my digests from Bee's group. We've been traveling. But I wanted to write to you about your issue with acne. > > I was wondering if you've tried steam or sauna heat to help bring the acne out? I really don't know what I'm talking about here...my acne occurred years ago during my teenage years...so please excuse me if there is a wealth of information that advises against this. I was just thinking that it might help the toxins come to the surface and dissipate. I understand a tiny bit of how you must feel. I wore make-up, even to bed, for years as I was embarrassed about my ruddy complexion and dark circles around my eyes. I still have the dark circles, but my skin is much improved and I'm not even totally on Bee's program yet. > > You WILL get there. And " there " will be " here " before you know it! Along the healing journey, maybe you could also use meditation as a tool for healing. Think good thoughts about what a gorgeous complexion you're going to have! Visualize feeling great and LOOKING great! Here's a quote I recently read. I thought it might help you get through this painful time. Remember the old addage " as a man thinketh, so is he " ? > > " Watch your thoughts; they become > words. Watch your words; they become actions. Watch your actions; they > become habits. Watch your habits; they become character. Watch your > character; it becomes your destiny. " †" Lao-Tze > > W > > > > Thank you W. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 Dear Phyllis. It isn't necessary to send a message just to thank someone, since it takes up a lot of file space on our group, and also people who get Daily Digests have to scroll through so much information just to find the only statement is a thank you. All the best, Bee > > > > Thank you W. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 Hi! I take msm (organic sulfur) mixed with water and i dont know what you think of msm Bee, but this really works for me. I dont get any acne when i take msm and believe me, i have been troubled with acne since i was a child. > > Dearest Bee and Group, I am feeling very sad today. I sent the kids to the park so they don't have to see me crying as this has become a weekly thing. My face is so hard to look at. There are red marks everywhere. I have been preying and keeping my faith, sticking to the eating plan very well-never a cheat, I do my enemas, epsom baths and my disgestion is great,nails look great, sleep is much better but my face... it makes me feel so sad. I know there are no quick measures. I've had acne cystically for a year now-it's been a nuisance for years before that but I'm convinced that the makeup I was using made it come to the cystic point. While it's freeing not to wear makeup it is also confining and every time I think it's calming down I see a new spot. Yesterday was only 2 weeks bismuth oxycloride free and tomorrow will be 5 weeks on the supplements and 6 weeks eating the Bee way. Bee, I read so many horror stories of women not getting relief from bismuth anywhere from 2 weeks to 6 months. Please, is it possible that I could recover a bit quiker than 6 months from following your plan. I'm so tired of crying. I'm trying so hard to be strong especially for my kids. Also, the cod liver oil as a spot treatment-what exactly is that supposed to do because I'm not really seeing too much of an improvement. Thank you, Phyllis > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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