Guest guest Posted December 18, 2001 Report Share Posted December 18, 2001 From , shared by Sheri very recently - Don't use Calcium ascorbate - ever. There are very good reasons why, not least of which is how it is metabolised in the body. Calcium Ascorbate is a no no. I learned the hard way. Brief description. In order to metabolise ascorbate, the Vitamin C needs a sodium ion. It splits into two compounds, one of which is used, the other excreted. The basic biochemical unit of the cell is the sodium ion. If you use calcium ascorbate, the calcium sheers away, and sodium is pulled from the nearest cell with it in it. Once the ascorbate is split, the first thing it does is to chelate out the calcium, which should not be there. Then what you have left, is what is available. That is why you rarely get diarrhoea with calcium ascorbate. Because you have to use far more of it to do what sodium ascorbate does. So how did ester C become supposedly the best. I don't know. I know my facts, because Archie Kalokerinos explained them to me, as have a couple of biochemists. I needed to know, because when Archie sorted out my arthritis after the rubella vaccine, he didn't put a label on it. I didn't know what it was. So when I ran out, I went to the health shop, and asked for " the best " . Within 9 months, I was in deep trouble and rang Archie to ask if this stuff was supposed to kill me (had a severe sodium deficiency, which was stuffing my immune system even worse than normal!!!). He asked what was on the bottle, and when I read out Calcium Ascorbate - well - I'm sure he would have boxed my ears if he was in the same room. Just joking. He's very calm and gentle, is Archie. Anyway, he explained that I would need to salt everything in sight for a while, and never to do it again. Hypercalcemia makes cancer cells grow like billie-oh... HTH, Sue SAHM dd Ruby 2.6 yrs Wales, UK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2001 Report Share Posted December 19, 2001 In a message dated 12/18/2001 7:19:18 PM Central Standard Time, suziesparkle@... writes: > . Anyway, he explained that I would need to salt everything in sight for a > while, and never to do it again. Hypercalcemia makes cancer cells grow > like billie-oh... > > Sue, please send more info on this topic. if one were supplementing with > calcium, what products should one take? do you have any brand names? i have > been taking the GNC calcium, magnesium and zinc. i shoudl go and look which > kind it is. > kim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2002 Report Share Posted February 15, 2002 In a message dated 2/16/02 1:55:01 AM GTB Standard Time, Chevy974@... writes: << Everytime he takes it he gets constipated. Have any of you experienced this? I thought it was odd >> That is.My dd and I get loose stool sometimes,but never constipated.Is he takingin enough water? Try a different brand and see if that has the same effect. sara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2002 Report Share Posted February 15, 2002 In a message dated 2/15/2002 6:04:18 PM Central Standard Time, nnu29@... writes: > That is.My dd and I get loose stool sometimes,but never constipated.Is he > takingin enough water? Try a different brand and see if that has the same > effect. > sara What are some of the different brands? Are there any brands that are less expensive? If I talk to the health food stores in my area might they carry it? Has anyone had luck with that? Sorry if this is OT. I see OT all the time, I guess vasectomies are not an OK OT tho?! christy mommy to Isis and Cosie " In order to change the way we feel we need to change the way we act. " <A HREF= " http://www.cpswatch.org/resources/ " >CPS Watch - Parent Resources</A> <A HREF= " http://www.infactcanada.ca/newsletters/spring95/boycott.htm " >Nestlé boycott</A> <A HREF= " http://209.164.119.207/61/xty31.html " >have we traded? leave feedback here...</A> <A HREF= " http://hometown.aol.com/xty31/myhomepage/index.html " >updated home page</A> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2002 Report Share Posted February 15, 2002 i havent seen any other brands in my store. Vitaglp has a 3 lb tub for 28 dollars thats not bad if mt HFS orders it, its 45 dollars. Amy ohio AMY MOMMY TO 4 KIDDIES Chelsea 9 Carrigian 5 4 Chaela Noelle Almost 1 from the mouth of a 4 yr old " your not fat mommy just squishy! " !!!! ) <A HREF= " http://hometown.aol.com/chevy974/myhomepagebaby.html " >The Haskett bunch</A> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2002 Report Share Posted February 16, 2002 In a message dated 2/16/02 10:02:22 AM GTB Standard Time, xty31@... writes: << What are some of the different brands? Are there any brands that are less expensive? If I talk to the health food stores in my area might they carry it? Has anyone had luck with that? >> Sheri posted to one company....Bronson I think it is.Now brand is the cheapest I found.Sometimes you have to spend a little more,but it might be worth it.Now works ok for me. You can ask your hfs...mine was absolutely clueless on SA.Said the vitC with bioflav. was the best..I will stick with the SA. sara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2002 Report Share Posted February 16, 2002 I tried the vit. C with bioflavonoids on my 2 yr. old. He had the diarrhea for two days. I'm sure everyone is different, and the body handles vitamins in different ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2002 Report Share Posted February 16, 2002 Thanks Suzanne and Jackie! I knew that magnesium could cause diarrhea. I'm sure I've also read that about vit. C. To much info. in my head. Jackie, what's the difference between Ester-C and regular Sodium Ascorbate? Wouldn't powder be easier for a little ones system? Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2002 Report Share Posted February 16, 2002 , If you or your child gets diarrhea I remember being told you should decrease the amount you give slightly and keep decreasing until no diarrhea. That means you have the right amount for the bowel to tolerate for you. Suzanne dd Ruby 2.8yrs South Wales Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2002 Report Share Posted February 16, 2002 At 02:32 PM 02/16/2002 EST, you wrote: >Thanks Suzanne and Jackie! I knew that magnesium could cause diarrhea. I'm >sure I've also read that about vit. C. To much info. in my head. > >Jackie, what's the difference between Ester-C and regular Sodium Ascorbate? >Wouldn't powder be easier for a little ones system? > >Thanks, > > Ester C is not sodium ascorbate - I think it is the calcium one which can be problematic in high doses -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account vaccineinfo@... (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail PO Box 1563 Nevada City CA 95959 530-740-0561 Voicemail in US http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin International Tours, Homestudy Courses, ANTHRAX & OTHER Vaccine Dangers Education, Homeopathic Education CEU's for nurses, Books & Multi-Pure Water Filters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2002 Report Share Posted February 16, 2002 At 05:35 PM 02/16/2002 -0000, you wrote: >You start out with this form of Vit C in small amounts and work up to >bowel tolerance. Then cut back to where there is no bowel problem. > >Or, I've found that you can use greater amounts of Ester-C with >bioflaviods and it won't cause the runs. I't more expensive. > >Jackie Noel >www.sagaciousairedales.com >www.sagciousdogcountry.com Check the archives - I have posted tons on this vaccinations -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account vaccineinfo@... (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail PO Box 1563 Nevada City CA 95959 530-740-0561 Voicemail in US http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin International Tours, Homestudy Courses, ANTHRAX & OTHER Vaccine Dangers Education, Homeopathic Education CEU's for nurses, Books & Multi-Pure Water Filters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 Hi, Bee. I've started buffering my ascorbic acid crystals with sodium bicarbonate. I was wondering if it is OK to do this with about 3-4 K MGs of vitamin C per day (spread out), with equal parts ascorbic acid crystals and sodium bicarbonte (usually 1/4 tsp. of each with each meal). Since sodium bicarbonate is anti-fungal, is it acceptable to continue doing this to create my sodium ascorbate? I know previously you mentioned that Dr. Simoncini says not to use sodium bicarbonate for preventative measures for cancer and fungus, etc. So I'm wondering if it is OK to be taking this bit of baking soda each day. Would I potentially be creating resistant candida/fungus if I continue to use it? I'm thinking no, but just wanted to ask to be sure I'm doing the right thing. Thanks, :0 ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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