Guest guest Posted December 13, 1999 Report Share Posted December 13, 1999 I guess I missed 's original post on this but I doctor pointed out mycoplasma in my blood while doing dark field microscopy. I forgot to ask her if some mycoplasma in the blood is " normal " Does anyone knwo? Phil rhbailey@... wrote: > From: rhbailey@... > > Dear in NC, > > You wrote, " I also tested negative at Nicholson's lab for mycoplasm > (despite the fact that my doctor can see what he thinks is mycoplasm in his > microscope). ... My doctor says he sees more chlamydia than mycoplasma > infections in CFIDS patients... " > > Interesting. It sounds as though you have a very good doctor. > > Sue B. > > > This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 1999 Report Share Posted December 14, 1999 Latest study have ~ http://listserv.nodak.edu/scripts/wa.exe?A2=ind9911D & L=co-cure & P=R486 Journal of Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (The Haworth Medical Press, an imprint of The Haworth Press, Inc.) Vol. 5, No. 3/4, 1999 ] " The percentage of M. genus infection detected in CFS, FMS, RA, and GWS was 52, 54, 49, and 55%, respectively. M. fermentans was detected in 32, 35, 23, and 36%, M. hominis was detected in 9, 8, 11, and 5%, and M. penetrans was detected in 6, 4, 7, and 3% of CFS, FMS, RA, and GWS patients, respectively. " M. genus, M.fermentans, M. hominis, and M. penetrans were detected in 15, 8, 3, and 2% of healthy matched controls. " The article also goes on about the unreliabilty (false negatives) of testing... even those researcher who poo-poo mycoplasma, admit that antibiotics do work " What's not in question is that some people are responding to antibiotics. So now the real trick is, why are people responding to antibiotics if it's not mycoplasma, and this is the critical area we need to explore to try and find out how to manage these chronic diseases. " - Dr. Urnovitz [CFS Radio] --- again, it may not be the cause -- but it is clearly a significant factor for the majority... AND TREATABLE (with improvement) ----- Original Message ----- From: Philip L Comer <philcome@...> > I guess I missed 's original post on this but I doctor pointed out mycoplasma in my blood while doing dark field microscopy. I forgot to ask her if some mycoplasma in the blood is " normal " > Does anyone knwo? > > Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 1999 Report Share Posted December 14, 1999 In a message dated 12/14/99 9:52:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, tab@... writes: << I was told by a doctor that we all have mycos in our blood just as we do other bacteria. >> Christie, I was under the impression that fermantans and penantrans are not the type that are found in a healthy person. Do you know more about the types your doctor was talking about. I know there are many kinds of mycoplasmas. Gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 1999 Report Share Posted December 14, 1999 >From: Philip L Comer <philcome@...> > >I guess I missed 's original post on this but I doctor pointed out mycoplasma in my blood while doing dark field microscopy. I forgot to ask her if some mycoplasma in the blood is " normal " >Does anyone knwo? > Hi Phil, I was told by a doctor that we all have mycos in our blood just as we do other bacteria. This doc dismissed the concept of infection by mycos. However my former internist said that although many people have exposure to EBV, for instance, it isn't a problem unless it makes us sick. And this would be true for any bacteria or virus as some get sick and some don't, depending on our immune status. Take care, Christie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 1999 Report Share Posted December 14, 1999 Hi Gail, I talked to RHEUM at University of Michigan when I first got on this list about mycolplasmas and didn't know about various types. All he said was that everyone has mycos and that this fact was insignificant! It was the usual brush-off from one of the most respected docs in his field, but too traditional in outlook for me. I have no doubt you are right about the fermantans and penantrans. Take care, Christie > > tab@... >writes: > ><< I was told by a doctor that we all have mycos in our blood just as we do > other bacteria. >> >Christie, I was under the impression that fermantans and penantrans are not >the type that are found in a healthy person. Do you know more about the >types your doctor was talking about. I know there are many kinds of >mycoplasmas. >Gail > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 1999 Report Share Posted December 20, 1999 Phil, what is normal? My doctor says he sees lots of it. But, he doesn't think it's " normal. " He just thinks lots of us are infected, and some of us more symptomatic than others. in North Carolina > Re: chlamydia > > > From: Philip L Comer <philcome@...> > > I guess I missed 's original post on this but I doctor > pointed out mycoplasma in my blood while doing dark field > microscopy. I forgot to ask her if some mycoplasma in the blood > is " normal " > Does anyone knwo? > > Phil > > > rhbailey@... wrote: > > > From: rhbailey@... > > > > Dear in NC, > > > > You wrote, " I also tested negative at Nicholson's lab for mycoplasm > > (despite the fact that my doctor can see what he thinks is > mycoplasm in his > > microscope). ... My doctor says he sees more chlamydia than mycoplasma > > infections in CFIDS patients... " > > > > Interesting. It sounds as though you have a very good doctor. > > > > Sue B. > > > > > This list is intended for patients to share personal > experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you > are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult > your doctor. > > > This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences > with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are > interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 1999 Report Share Posted December 20, 1999 >From: " Crane " <ccrane@...> > >Phil, what is normal? My doctor says he sees lots of it. But, he doesn't >think it's " normal. " He just thinks lots of us are infected, and some of us >more symptomatic than others. > > in North Carolina Hi Top RHEUM in this State says everyone has mycos and it is nothing to be concerned about. He is on a much needed sabatical.... Christie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 1999 Report Share Posted December 21, 1999 The myco that doc N tests for is probably a different myco than what your doc is seeing, unless your doc is splitting open your cells to get mycoplasma fermentans out, because it is intercellular, this is the myco that doc N refers to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 1999 Report Share Posted December 22, 1999 I'm not sure you're right, but maybe you know more than I do. I saw what my doctor saw: a bright spot on/in white blood cells--he said that's what mycoplasm looks like. The chlamydia looked like gumdrops stuck all over red blood cells--seemed to be more on the outside. And, I assume you mean " intracellular " ? I don't think he's splitting open the cells, but he's definitely seeing into the white blood cells--you can see the protoplasm moving. the red blood cells appear to be more opaque. but perhaps i didn't understand what I was looking at. in North Carolina > Re: chlamydia > > > From: green1585@... > > The myco that doc N tests for is probably a different myco than what your > doc is seeing, unless your doc is splitting open your cells to get > mycoplasma fermentans out, because it is intercellular, this is the myco > that doc N refers to > > > This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences > with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are > interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 Hello, My gynecologist just diagnosed me with chlamydia last week, and wants me to: -take antibiotics to treat it (either 1 day large dose or 10 days smaller doses of zithromax or another general antibiotic) I told her about my issues with candida and my hesitance to take antibiotics - she suggested coupling antibiotic treatment with nystatin to prevent additional candida problems. I'm waiting for a blood test confirmation to rule out the possibility that the test she did was a false positive before deciding what to do, but in the meantime wanted to know if anyone else has been in the same boat or has advice? Part of me knows i shouldn't take antibiotics, for any reason. Part of me thinks maybe some of my symptoms (frequent urination, kidney and urinary tract infections, vaginal problems) might be related to chlamydia rather than candida. And of course I am concerned by the thought of having long term fertility problems if I don't clear up the chlamydia. Thanks in advance for any advice y'all have. Sara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 > > Hello, > > My gynecologist just diagnosed me with chlamydia last week, and wants > me to: > -take antibiotics to treat it (either 1 day large dose or 10 days > smaller doses of zithromax or another general antibiotic) > > I told her about my issues with candida and my hesitance to take > antibiotics - she suggested coupling antibiotic treatment with > nystatin to prevent additional candida problems. > > I'm waiting for a blood test confirmation to rule out the possibility that the test she did was a false positive before deciding what to do, but in the meantime wanted to know if anyone else has been in the same boat or has advice? > > Part of me knows i shouldn't take antibiotics, for any reason. Part of me thinks maybe some of my symptoms (frequent urination, kidney and urinary tract infections, vaginal problems) might be related to chlamydia rather than candida. And of course I am concerned by the thought of having long term fertility problems if I don't clear up the chlamydia. ==>Hi Sara. It is very common to have other bacteria as well as candida, which are all caused by a very depressed immune system, too many toxins and a lack of or imbalance of nutrients. ==>There are many natural antibiotics that kill bacteria, including the antifungals I recommend, i.e. coconut oil, garlic, clove oil and oil of oregano - see these articles for details: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/menu2_4_1.php If you do take antibiotic drugs it is more important to take probiotics, but take them at a different time than you take the drugs, i.e. 3 hours before or after - see " How to Successfully Overcome Candida, " Probiotics Section which describes the kind to buy and how much to take. Luv, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 > ==>Hi Sara. It is very common to have other bacteria as well as > candida, which are all caused by a very depressed immune system, too > many toxins and a lack of or imbalance of nutrients. > > ==>There are many natural antibiotics that kill bacteria, including > the antifungals I recommend, i.e. coconut oil, garlic, clove oil and > oil of oregano - see these articles for details: > http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/menu2_4_1.php > > If you do take antibiotic drugs it is more important to take > probiotics, but take them at a different time than you take the > drugs, i.e. 3 hours before or after - see " How to Successfully > Overcome Candida, " Probiotics Section which describes the kind to buy > and how much to take. > > Luv, Bee Bee, thanks so much for the advice, I will keep it in mind when discussing options with my gyno. Best, Sara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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