virgin coconut oil

[Guest guest]

Eh...stupid question. I live in a foreign (a.k.a. backwards) country

and can't seem to find VCO anywhere. However when I search the web I

see some versions that are in solid form and some that are liquid.

What is the right form for VCO...liquid or solid?

Robin

[Guest guest]

>

> Eh...stupid question. I live in a foreign (a.k.a. backwards) country

> and can't seem to find VCO anywhere. However when I search the web I

> see some versions that are in solid form and some that are liquid.

> What is the right form for VCO...liquid or solid?

>

> Robin

>

Hi,

Go to any health food stores and look for it, you will find it. I live

in Sydney and did so, it comes in solid form but quickly melts when

you use it for cooking. A scoop of it onto the hot pan and voilà...oil

to cook with as any other.I forget the brand I have, but it is an

extra virgin organic one. You can also use it on the body externally

as well.I don't think it matters if it is solid or liquid.Maybe

someone else may have more knowledge about this, but I am finding the

solid form I recently purchased is fine.

Gez

[Guest guest]

Mine is in solid form too Robin but when the temperature gets warmer it turns to

a liquid.

isabu_t <gmunoz97@...> wrote:

>

> Eh...stupid question. I live in a foreign (a.k.a. backwards) country

> and can't seem to find VCO anywhere. However when I search the web I

> see some versions that are in solid form and some that are liquid.

> What is the right form for VCO...liquid or solid?

>

> Robin

>

Hi,

Go to any health food stores and look for it, you will find it. I live

in Sydney and did so, it comes in solid form but quickly melts when

you use it for cooking. A scoop of it onto the hot pan and voilà...oil

to cook with as any other.I forget the brand I have, but it is an

extra virgin organic one. You can also use it on the body externally

as well.I don't think it matters if it is solid or liquid.Maybe

someone else may have more knowledge about this, but I am finding the

solid form I recently purchased is fine.

Gez

[Guest guest]

>

> Eh...stupid question. I live in a foreign (a.k.a. backwards) country

> and can't seem to find VCO anywhere. However when I search the web I

> see some versions that are in solid form and some that are liquid.

> What is the right form for VCO...liquid or solid?

==>Robin, liquid or solid doesn't matter, but it must be unrefined,

unbleached and undeoderized and cold or expeller-pressed.

Bee

[Guest guest]

I bought something at a local alternative grocery store because I

cannot find it at the numerous health food stores that abound over here.

If I translate the label correctly, I bought the following:

cocofat , pure plant fat, unharden

I think cocofat and coconut oil are the same in Germany and pure can

also translate into virgin. The product is a cube of very white

tasteless coconut oil. Does this sound right.

I have had one or two tablespoons of the stuff today and now I am

soooooooo extremely irritable - could that be a response if the stuff

I bought was not right?

Does anyone out there know of any good Germany VCO sources? It seems

everything I need for the candida diet - supplements, coconut oil,

etc.. I have to have shipped in from another country because I can't

find these thing here in Germany plus, on top of that many many

companies will not even bother shipping to Germany because there are

such a pain in the you-know-what at customs.

Robin

> >

> > Eh...stupid question. I live in a foreign (a.k.a. backwards) country

> > and can't seem to find VCO anywhere. However when I search the web I

> > see some versions that are in solid form and some that are liquid.

> > What is the right form for VCO...liquid or solid?

>

> ==>Robin, liquid or solid doesn't matter, but it must be unrefined,

> unbleached and undeoderized and cold or expeller-pressed.

>

> Bee

>

[Guest guest]

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Call them to get help buying the correct coconut oil and supplements.

Bee

> > >

> > > Eh...stupid question. I live in a foreign (a.k.a. backwards)

country

> > > and can't seem to find VCO anywhere. However when I search the

web I

> > > see some versions that are in solid form and some that are

liquid.

> > > What is the right form for VCO...liquid or solid?

> >

> > ==>Robin, liquid or solid doesn't matter, but it must be

unrefined,

> > unbleached and undeoderized and cold or expeller-pressed.

> >

> > Bee

> >

>

[Guest guest]

i use nutiva brand. i get extremelly irritable and can easily turn mean

if i don't control myself... the more i take, the more irritable i

get... if i don't take the coconut oil i am calm...

any suggestions are appreciated.

thank you,

carmen

>

> > I have had one or two tablespoons of the stuff today and now I am

> > soooooooo extremely irritable - could that be a response if the

> stuff

> > I bought was not right?

[Guest guest]

> i use nutiva brand. i get extremelly irritable and can easily turn

mean

> if i don't control myself... the more i take, the more irritable i

> get... if i don't take the coconut oil i am calm...

> any suggestions are appreciated.

> thank you,

> carmen

>

> >

>

> > > I have had one or two tablespoons of the stuff today and now I

am

> > > soooooooo extremely irritable - could that be a response if the

> > stuff

> > > I bought was not right?

>

Hi Carmen and Robin,

I would imagine this to be a healing reaction. You haven't said if

you gradually increased your coconut oil to get to the amount you're

taking or not, but I would suggest you decrease the amount you take

and then verrrry slowly increase it, only adding 1 tsp. every four to

five days. If you have problems again, scale back and increase

slowly again. Coconut oil is an anti-fungal; anti-fungals cause die-

off; die-off can cause irritability.

I didn't notice irritability from an increase of CO--just the

opposite. I feel better after my CO. But my husband (who is not

following the diet yet) had one tsp. in a small egg drink a few weeks

ago and kept complaining he felt 'wired and edgy.' Sounds like what

you two have described. The good news is, you're on the right

track. Just remember to go slowly.

Hope that helps,

Cathe

[Guest guest]

>

> i use nutiva brand. i get extremelly irritable and can easily turn

mean

> if i don't control myself... the more i take, the more irritable i

> get... if i don't take the coconut oil i am calm...

> any suggestions are appreciated.

> thank you,

==>Hi Carmen. Since coconut oil is highly antifungal it is important

to start with small amounts and gradually increase them to minimize

reactions. Some people need to start with as little as 1/4 tsp. 3 times

a day, and only increase it every 5 to 7 days. It is part of the

healing process to experience emotional upheavals and changes since

more toxins are circulating since the candida is being killed off, and

this includes the brain. On this program you are basically detoxifying

your body. You will find many changes, ups and downs, during healing.

That means what you are doing is working.

The best, Bee

[Guest guest]

Cathe,

Its good you said that because i was thinking that the VCO I bought

was not up to snuff. I'm still not certain it is and have another one

on the way just to be sure. But yeah, I get down right mean too! I

need a padded cell!

Robin

> Hi Carmen and Robin,

>

> I would imagine this to be a healing reaction. You haven't said if

> you gradually increased your coconut oil to get to the amount you're

> taking or not, but I would suggest you decrease the amount you take

> and then verrrry slowly increase it, only adding 1 tsp. every four to

> five days. If you have problems again, scale back and increase

> slowly again. Coconut oil is an anti-fungal; anti-fungals cause die-

> off; die-off can cause irritability.

>

> I didn't notice irritability from an increase of CO--just the

> opposite. I feel better after my CO. But my husband (who is not

> following the diet yet) had one tsp. in a small egg drink a few weeks

> ago and kept complaining he felt 'wired and edgy.' Sounds like what

> you two have described. The good news is, you're on the right

> track. Just remember to go slowly.

>

> Hope that helps,

> Cathe

>

[Guest guest]

Ok Robin: me and you in that padded cell... kickboxing for " mean "

release... hahahhaa

I'm definitely lowering the dose of coconut oil.

I'll restart with 1 tsp per day.

I did increase slowly when I introduced the VCO, from 1tsp to 1tbsp to

2tbsp...

I thought it was the oil of oregano's " fault " so I decreased that, but

being away for 2 days and not taking VCO told me who the culptrit is

Thank you Cathe.

Thank you Bee.

>

> Cathe,

>

> Its good you said that because i was thinking that the VCO I bought

> was not up to snuff. I'm still not certain it is and have another one

> on the way just to be sure. But yeah, I get down right mean too! I

> need a padded cell!

>

> Robin

[Guest guest]

Hey - yeah, I really feel sorry for people who cross my path during

one of my mean moments. I've gone from a fairly quiet, easy-going

type to someone who can verbally ripe someone a new you-know-what at

the drop of a dime. The down side to this is often it's my own family

that have to experience the full brunt of my meanness. However, on a

good day I can find some unsuspecting stranger to let go some of my

abuse. The really sad part is that even thought I sound like I'm

joking...I'm not, it's my reality.

Anyway, how long until I start seeing this go away? I never know what

kind of person I'm going to be at any given moment or what kind of

symptoms I will have from day to day.

Robin

>

> Ok Robin: me and you in that padded cell... kickboxing for " mean "

> release... hahahhaa

>

> I'm definitely lowering the dose of coconut oil.

> I'll restart with 1 tsp per day.

> I did increase slowly when I introduced the VCO, from 1tsp to 1tbsp to

> 2tbsp...

> I thought it was the oil of oregano's " fault " so I decreased that, but

> being away for 2 days and not taking VCO told me who the culptrit is

[Guest guest]

>

> Hey - yeah, I really feel sorry for people who cross my path during

> one of my mean moments. I've gone from a fairly quiet, easy-going

> type to someone who can verbally ripe someone a new you-know-what at

> the drop of a dime. The down side to this is often it's my own family

> that have to experience the full brunt of my meanness. However, on a

> good day I can find some unsuspecting stranger to let go some of my

> abuse. The really sad part is that even thought I sound like I'm

> joking...I'm not, it's my reality.

>

>

> Anyway, how long until I start seeing this go away? I never know what

> kind of person I'm going to be at any given moment or what kind of

> symptoms I will have from day to day.

>

> Robin

Hi Robin,

I will say that one thing I've noticed is my anger is more sane, if

that makes sense. I'm not necessarily just 'going off' although at the

moment it seems and feels like it. I got angry with a dr the other

day. I had taken one of my sons to him for a referral to a

psychiatrist and so I could get some kind of resource information for

dealing with my kids. I explained to him that I'm weaning my kids from

their meds and all they do is fight. He says to me, with a quizzical

look on his face, " So you're looking for a support group for parents of

kids who argue? " (which makes me sound like a total idiot) I wanted to

slap him. I got angry, tried to get my point across, keeping my anger

in check. But my eyes got big and my face may have been flushed. " I'm

feeling a little attacked, " he says to me. Whatever. It wasn't until

I was recounting the story to my husband later that I remembered that

the dr had first MOCKED me, and THAT was why I had gotten angry. But

this was a new thing for me. I was sticking up for myself instead of

inernalizing the anger. I have done this now three times in the last

few weeks. I come from an abusive childhood, an abusive first marriage

and a whole lot of dysfunction. So for me to stick up for myself,

however imperfectly, is HUGE. I'm hoping this is a sign of things to

come, of emotional healing along with the physical healing.

Cathe

[Guest guest]

>

> Hey - yeah, I really feel sorry for people who cross my path during

> one of my mean moments. I've gone from a fairly quiet, easy-going

> type to someone who can verbally ripe someone a new you-know-what at

> the drop of a dime. The down side to this is often it's my own

family

> that have to experience the full brunt of my meanness. However, on

a

> good day I can find some unsuspecting stranger to let go some of my

> abuse. The really sad part is that even thought I sound like I'm

> joking...I'm not, it's my reality.

>

>

> Anyway, how long until I start seeing this go away? I never know

what kind of person I'm going to be at any given moment or what kind

of symptoms I will have from day to day.

==>Hi Robin. Recovery time varies from person to person depending

upon how long they've had candida, how much damage was done, what

kinds of malfunctions they have, what level of " nutritional status "

they acquired from their parents on conception, if there are still

unavoidable toxins around, etc., etc. You will find your good days

increasing, when you aren't getting uncontrollable anger, and your

bad days decreasing as you progress on the program. Retracing the

body will go through will also bring up emotional aspects of any

incidences during injury, disease, illness, pain, losses, etc. as

well.

Hang in there and keep on keeping on!

The best, Bee

[Guest guest]

since i've decreased my VCO to 1 tsp in the evening the anger got much

better and more controllable; oil of oregano is 7 drops in the evening

and i also take pau d'arco 1000mg twice daily plus the tea...

i'd rather not deal with ugly VCO anger if other antifungals are doing

the job. i've been meditating for the past 7 years with great progress

so having this ugly anger coming in makes me feel like i'm regressing

from my spiritual growth so i'm going for smaller anger dose which i

can release via meditation and visualization.

carmen

>

> >

> > Hey - yeah, I really feel sorry for people who cross my path during

> > one of my mean moments. I've gone from a fairly quiet, easy-going

> > type to someone who can verbally ripe someone a new you-know-what at

> > the drop of a dime. The down side to this is often it's my own

[Guest guest]

>

> since i've decreased my VCO to 1 tsp in the evening the anger got

much

> better and more controllable; oil of oregano is 7 drops in the

evening

> and i also take pau d'arco 1000mg twice daily plus the tea...

> i'd rather not deal with ugly VCO anger if other antifungals are

doing

> the job. i've been meditating for the past 7 years with great

progress

> so having this ugly anger coming in makes me feel like i'm regressing

> from my spiritual growth so i'm going for smaller anger dose which i

> can release via meditation and visualization.

> carmen

>

Hi Carmen,

How much VCO do you take in a day--just the one tsp? Bee recommends we

add another antifungal (oil of oregano) after we're up to 5-6 Tbsp. of

VCO a day. Maybe that's what caused your problems. Too much oil of

oregano and not enough VCO. Could that be it?

Cathe

[Guest guest]

>

> >

> > since i've decreased my VCO to 1 tsp in the evening the anger got

> much

> > better and more controllable; oil of oregano is 7 drops in the

> evening

> > and i also take pau d'arco 1000mg twice daily plus the tea...

> > i'd rather not deal with ugly VCO anger if other antifungals are

> doing

> > the job. i've been meditating for the past 7 years with great

> progress

> > so having this ugly anger coming in makes me feel like i'm

regressing

> > from my spiritual growth so i'm going for smaller anger dose

which i

> > can release via meditation and visualization.

> > carmen

> >

>

>

> Hi Carmen,

>

> How much VCO do you take in a day--just the one tsp? Bee

recommends we

> add another antifungal (oil of oregano) after we're up to 5-6 Tbsp.

of

> VCO a day. Maybe that's what caused your problems. Too much oil

of

> oregano and not enough VCO. Could that be it?

==>Hi Cathe, you are on the right track. What is happening is that

taking too much antifungal (CO and oil of oregano combination) too

early kills off high numbers of candida at one time, which results in

more toxins and more die-off symptoms. It is better to take it easy

and not push the body too much. Besides the fact that antifungals

are not nearly as important as nutrients.

Luv, Bee

[Guest guest]

Cathe, you're right but i was taking oil of oregano before i learned

about Bee's diet; i was also taking threelac and had major die-off

from that but not this anger/mean! i stopped the threelac; i'd rather

not stop the oil of oregano! the anger/mean came with vco... i can

deal with die-off but not with this anger/mean -i get to hurt people

around me -that is not right!

carmen

> >

> > Hi Carmen,

> >

> > How much VCO do you take in a day--just the one tsp? Bee

> recommends we

> > add another antifungal (oil of oregano) after we're up to 5-6

Tbsp.

> of

> > VCO a day. Maybe that's what caused your problems. Too much oil

> of

> > oregano and not enough VCO. Could that be it?

>

> ==>Hi Cathe, you are on the right track. What is happening is that

> taking too much antifungal (CO and oil of oregano combination) too

> early kills off high numbers of candida at one time, which results

in

> more toxins and more die-off symptoms. It is better to take it

easy

> and not push the body too much. Besides the fact that antifungals

> are not nearly as important as nutrients.

>

> Luv, Bee

>

[Guest guest]

>

> ==>Hi Cathe, you are on the right track. What is happening is that

> taking too much antifungal (CO and oil of oregano combination) too

> early kills off high numbers of candida at one time, which results in

> more toxins and more die-off symptoms. It is better to take it easy

> and not push the body too much. Besides the fact that antifungals

> are not nearly as important as nutrients.

>

> Luv, Bee

>

Hi Bee,

That's what I meant, but it didn't come out right. Thanks for

clarifying.

Cathe

[Guest guest]

>

> Cathe, you're right but i was taking oil of oregano before i learned

> about Bee's diet; i was also taking threelac and had major die-off

> from that but not this anger/mean! i stopped the threelac; i'd rather

> not stop the oil of oregano! the anger/mean came with vco... i can

> deal with die-off but not with this anger/mean -i get to hurt people

> around me -that is not right!

> carmen

Hi Carmen,

I understand, but I still think you will need to increase the VCO

eventually to get the full effect of the program. I do understand the

moodiness, too--it's hell. I wish you the best as you transition into

this program.

Cathe