Mental & Nervous symptoms

[Guest guest]

I'm really struggling here and am seaking help.

I stopped taking my Nystatin Powder for Oral suspension for a day, and

I really feel like I can't live in my body. It is causing me great

mental & nervous symptoms. I want to crawl out of my skin! I can't

live like this anymore. I also ate an avacodo tonight which seemed to

feed my candida or fungus or whatever it is.

Do people with candida ever feel like they are going insane in their

bodies, like something is trying to push them out? I'm wondering if

feeling this way confirms that it is systemic candida versus fungus in

sinuses.

My symptoms have been post nasal drip, flare up in sinuses when

eating high carb foods, and mental/nervous symptoms.

It seems like I have to swallow a lot of Nystatin to calm myself

down. I'm still trying to find a doctor who will prescribe me more

Nystatin or something stronger so I won't have to suffer so much with

these mental/nervous symptoms. Calcium/Magnesium does not help. I'm

so exhausted from going from one doctor to the next and them telling

me that there is nothing wrong or saying that sinus surgery or reflux

meds should cure my problem. Does anyone know a good doctor familiar

with yeast in San , Austin, or Houston, TX areas?

Does systemic candida cause this severe anxiety? I've been on

Nystatin for over 2 months. Will I have to take Nystatin the rest of

my life in order to prevent these nervous symptoms? I would think

that by now the yeast would have been reduced since I have stuck to

the diet, supplements, etc. for over 2 months and have been sick for

just over a year.

Thank you,

[Guest guest]

I feel the same way when I am not taking my antifungals. It is scary, I thought

I was going Crazy, well I was going crazy in a sense. My behavior was so

explosive and erratic. I have heard this is common in extreme cases. As soon as

I got a prescription my mood totally changed. I had no idea how altered my

personality had become until I started taking medication (diflucan, for me not

nystatin). My husband said he no longer feels like he is walking on eggshells, I

feel guilty for how crazy and out of control I had become. I too fear what will

happen if I can't continue to take the Diflucan. I can buy one pill a week @

seven dollars each from an online Canadian pharmacy, but that is all I can buy

w/out a prescription, and like you said it is really hard to find a Dr. who will

continue to prescribe this medicine. I go to the Dr. today to see if I can get

more refills, I see a Dermatologist and she is more willing to prescribe it as

long as I still have

skin inflammation so if you are having any skin problems you might want to try

to see a dermatologist. I have systemic candida, that stemmed from a simple

case of ringworm that went undiagnosed for five years, my Dr. kept telling me it

was just psoriasis and that I was going to have to live with it. Once I got sick

and really stressed, had two babies and started binge eating thousands of cals

in sugar a night, my immune system was crushed and it was able to take over. It

went on for so long that it invaded my whole body. It is possible you sinus

infection could have done the same thing.

Question, do you have arthritis and swelling in your joints? Because if you do

they can test the synovial fluid around them for yeast/fungal infection, if you

test positive then yes, you have a full blown systemic infection. It is pretty

easy and painless. That is how I was diagnosed. My Dr. didn't want to take any

fluid. I flat out told him that if he didn't do I was going to do it myself and

bring it in, that convinced him.

Other than that all I can say is that, I know the diet is hard but it will work

in time, you have to keep climbing the mountain. I think two months on the diet

is generally not a long time to kill the infection. I would say most easily can

take a year. So don't lose hope, you have only being on the diet for a little

while in the scope of things it will work, in fact it IS working, and your die

off might just be really bad right now. I know I can't just keep taking meds, it

is only a band aid and doesn't address the real problem. I am glad I took them

because they gave me the metal clarity and focus to start the diet and helped

calm some of my starch cravings.. Like Bee said you have to heal your broken

immune system, that is so important. Not just for Candida, but for cancer and

if we have a flu pandemic I know that with my weakened, wrecked immune system I

will be a goner( I know that is somewhat morbid but I honestly believe it) I

have to get

healthy so I can survive a major flu or other diesease outbreak I have to get

better for my kids and my family. I can't be a mom the way I was before. It is

said that Van Gogh cut off his ear, from having a severe Candida infection,

AFTER contracting an std, not from the std itself, so yes, LOL, Candida can

make you CRAZY!!!

[ ] Mental & Nervous symptoms

I'm really struggling here and am seaking help.

I stopped taking my Nystatin Powder for Oral suspension for a day, and

I really feel like I can't live in my body. It is causing me great

mental & nervous symptoms. I want to crawl out of my skin! I can't

live like this anymore. I also ate an avacodo tonight which seemed to

feed my candida or fungus or whatever it is.

Do people with candida ever feel like they are going insane in their

bodies, like something is trying to push them out? I'm wondering if

feeling this way confirms that it is systemic candida versus fungus in

sinuses.

My symptoms have been post nasal drip, flare up in sinuses when

eating high carb foods, and mental/nervous symptoms.

It seems like I have to swallow a lot of Nystatin to calm myself

down. I'm still trying to find a doctor who will prescribe me more

Nystatin or something stronger so I won't have to suffer so much with

these mental/nervous symptoms. Calcium/Magnesium does not help. I'm

so exhausted from going from one doctor to the next and them telling

me that there is nothing wrong or saying that sinus surgery or reflux

meds should cure my problem. Does anyone know a good doctor familiar

with yeast in San , Austin, or Houston, TX areas?

Does systemic candida cause this severe anxiety? I've been on

Nystatin for over 2 months. Will I have to take Nystatin the rest of

my life in order to prevent these nervous symptoms? I would think

that by now the yeast would have been reduced since I have stuck to

the diet, supplements, etc. for over 2 months and have been sick for

just over a year.

Thank you,

[Guest guest]

,

I also have had the feeling like I'm going insane from this.

I read this information in the Prescription for Nutritional Healing on p.185:

" Medical treatment for candidiasis may involve the use of antifungal medications

such as nystatin, ketoconazole, and amphotericin. Unfortunately, the use of

these agents, especially if chronic or repeated, can lead to the development of

stronger strains of yeast that are drug resistant. Higher dosages are then

required, which in turn further weaken the immune system. Many doctors no

longer use nystatin or antibiotics because they weaken the immune system and can

damage certain organs. Others prescribe them for short-term treatment only. "

I remember someone from another Candida group saying they were on Nystatin for

many years, like 10, because every time they tried to stop the antifungal, the

yeast would come back.

Bee has said that the diet and supplements are the most important. Personally,

I would watch taking the antifungals for an extended period of time.

Take care,

Beth

[ ] Mental & Nervous symptoms

I'm really struggling here and am seaking help.

I stopped taking my Nystatin Powder for Oral suspension for a day, and

I really feel like I can't live in my body. It is causing me great

mental & nervous symptoms. I want to crawl out of my skin! I can't

live like this anymore. I also ate an avacodo tonight which seemed to

feed my candida or fungus or whatever it is.

Do people with candida ever feel like they are going insane in their

bodies, like something is trying to push them out? I'm wondering if

feeling this way confirms that it is systemic candida versus fungus in

sinuses.

My symptoms have been post nasal drip, flare up in sinuses when

eating high carb foods, and mental/nervous symptoms.

It seems like I have to swallow a lot of Nystatin to calm myself

down. I'm still trying to find a doctor who will prescribe me more

Nystatin or something stronger so I won't have to suffer so much with

these mental/nervous symptoms. Calcium/Magnesium does not help. I'm

so exhausted from going from one doctor to the next and them telling

me that there is nothing wrong or saying that sinus surgery or reflux

meds should cure my problem. Does anyone know a good doctor familiar

with yeast in San , Austin, or Houston, TX areas?

Does systemic candida cause this severe anxiety? I've been on

Nystatin for over 2 months. Will I have to take Nystatin the rest of

my life in order to prevent these nervous symptoms? I would think

that by now the yeast would have been reduced since I have stuck to

the diet, supplements, etc. for over 2 months and have been sick for

just over a year.

Thank you,

[Guest guest]

,

It takes 1 month for every year you've been unwell, which for most

people nowadays is since before birth.

The best, Bee

[Guest guest]

> Question, do you have arthritis and swelling in your joints?

Because if you do they can test the synovial fluid around them for

yeast/fungal infection, if you test positive then yes, you have a

full blown systemic infection. It is pretty easy and painless. That

is how I was diagnosed. My Dr. didn't want to take any fluid. I flat

out told him that if he didn't do I was going to do it myself and

bring it in, that convinced him.

>

> Other than that all I can say is that, I know the diet is hard but

it will work in time, you have to keep climbing the mountain. I

think two months on the diet is generally not a long time to kill

the infection. I would say most easily can take a year. So don't

lose hope, you have only being on the diet for a little while in the

scope of things it will work, in fact it IS working, and your die

off might just be really bad right now. I know I can't just keep

taking meds, it is only a band aid and doesn't address the real

problem. I am glad I took them because they gave me the metal

clarity and focus to start the diet and helped calm some of my

starch cravings.. Like Bee said you have to heal your broken immune

system, that is so important. Not just for Candida, but for cancer

and if we have a flu pandemic I know that with my weakened, wrecked

immune system I will be a goner( I know that is somewhat morbid but

I honestly believe it) I have to get

> healthy so I can survive a major flu or other diesease outbreak I

have to get better for my kids and my family. I can't be a mom the

way I was before. It is said that Van Gogh cut off his ear, from

having a severe Candida infection, AFTER contracting an std, not

from the std itself, so yes, LOL, Candida can make you CRAZY!!!

>

>

,

Thank you so much for your response & support. Unfortunately (or

fortunately), I don't have swelling in my joints that can be tested.

I do have cystic acne, though, and will go to my dermatologist to

beg for help as one of my last resorts.

I went back to my General Practitioner today who told me that she

discontinued my Nystatin prescription because the infectious disease

doctor that I saw last week (who thought I was nuts) had told her

that I was using Nystatin in my sinuses. Apparently the doctors

think this is harmful. So I promised not to use Nystatin in my

sinuses any more.

My GP also referred me to a food allergy doctor and psychiatrist. I

guess I'll go jump through the hoops and just keep taking

supplements and sticking to the diet in hopes that maybe some day I

will be sane again and a better mom for my kids, too.

Thank you so much for your thoughtful words.

Blessings,

[Guest guest]

>

> ,

>

> I also have had the feeling like I'm going insane from this.

>

> I read this information in the Prescription for Nutritional

Healing on p.185:

>

> " Medical treatment for candidiasis may involve the use of

antifungal medications such as nystatin, ketoconazole, and

amphotericin. Unfortunately, the use of these agents, especially if

chronic or repeated, can lead to the development of stronger strains

of yeast that are drug resistant. Higher dosages are then required,

which in turn further weaken the immune system. Many doctors no

longer use nystatin or antibiotics because they weaken the immune

system and can damage certain organs. Others prescribe them for

short-term treatment only. "

>

> I remember someone from another Candida group saying they were on

Nystatin for many years, like 10, because every time they tried to

stop the antifungal, the yeast would come back.

>

> Bee has said that the diet and supplements are the most

important. Personally, I would watch taking the antifungals for an

extended period of time.

>

> Take care,

> Beth

>

Thanks for the warning, Beth.

It scares me that I might have to give up Nystatin before candida

has been reduced enough for my nervous symptoms to stop. I would

like to experiment more with garlic, oregano oil, grapefruit seed

extract, and other natural antifungals to see if they stop these

nervous symptoms as quickly as Nystatin does. But I am having to

stay away from antifungals that might irritate my gastritis and

esophagus since my GI doc still wants to do more testing. I want

him to see a very healthy non-irritated GI tract so that my GP will

rule out GI problems & will believe that I truly have a candida.

Have you had any luck with natural antifungals immediately relieving

your mental/nervous symptoms?

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

Dear ,

The way you describe candida makes you feel, is EXACTLY how I feel.

It makes me want to " jump " out of my skin, anxious, very irritated,

nervous, impatient, prone to anger. The worst feeling is in my

sinuses and ears, after eating carbs. or VCO (as a die-off symptom),

or in rooms with air-con. Makes me go crazy after 10min.

My candida got really bad this year in February, and I finally found

out what it is in March, but now when I think back I had it all my

life. Only body was younger and I could live a semi-normal life.Are

you sure you had none of the symptoms when you were younger?

Before joining Bee's group I read all those promises over Internet

how you can cut out sugar and fruits and in two months you'll be

fine. So not true.

Now I accept the reality, that it will take me at least 3 years on

this program (I'm 36)- but it is such a relief to know that it is

CURABLE, isn't it? I'll be happy if one day, whenever, I manage to

put it under control. Being in Bee's group is like oxygen- whenever

I'm depressed or need support,have new symptom, or simply need

incentive to stay out of carbs I read the messages. Find whatever

works for you, and let us know how you're doing.

Wish you well,

Dejana

[Guest guest]

> The way you describe candida makes you feel, is EXACTLY how I feel.

> It makes me want to " jump " out of my skin, anxious, very irritated,

> nervous, impatient, prone to anger.

I feel the same way. The anger and irritability is so terrible to

handle but I'm so happy I'm able to detoxify and heal from candida.

>The worst feeling is in my

> sinuses and ears, after eating carbs.

Yes my ears have been crazy inside and out. Lately I've had super

red, swollen and itchy ears (for 2 months) and it finally got better.

Such a crazy healing reaction but I welcome it all cause this will

lead to health.

> Now I accept the reality, that it will take me at least 3 years on

> this program (I'm 36)-

Me too! I've done a little over a year and I have two more years

remaining. I can't wait to experience total health! I think I've had

candida since birth.

[Guest guest]

>

> Now I accept the reality, that it will take me at least 3 years on

> this program (I'm 36)- but it is such a relief to know that it is

> CURABLE, isn't it? I'll be happy if one day, whenever, I manage to

> put it under control. Being in Bee's group is like oxygen-

whenever

> I'm depressed or need support,have new symptom, or simply need

> incentive to stay out of carbs I read the messages. Find whatever

> works for you, and let us know how you're doing.

> Wish you well,

>

> Dejana

>

Hi, Dejana.

You are so right. Bee's group has been a life-saver!

(Bee, I'll remember you when I win the lottery!)

I have learned so much from everybody's experiences, and it is

wonderful to know that there is hope. Everyone has been so kind &

supportive. If it weren't for this candida support group, I would

feel all alone in dealing with this & wouldn't even know where to

start!

Dejana, I hope your 3-year journey to recovery goes smoothly &

quickly. I'm not sure how long my recovery may be since I've taken

antibiotics since my teen years for acne (I'm 41). I just started

having sensitivity issues this year. I'm sure I'll be depending on

this site for many years in the future.

I pray that we will all get to the other side of this candida

journey...skipping & laughing through the tears while transforming

into healthier & stronger compassionate people. Maybe we'll all

turn out as wonderful as Bee! lol!

Thanks, Dejana, for your words of encouragement (and lots of

gratitude to Bee & you wonderful groupies!)

[Guest guest]

,

I have tried Kyolic Garlic, raw garlic and an antifungal that Metagenics makes.

I tried Diflucan years ago, but had some side effects and had to stop. I can't

remember if have anything helped with mental/nervous symptoms.

How do you stand the Nystatin taste and smell? That's one reason I didn't want

to take it. Are you taking the pure powder and not the oral suspension that has

sugar in it?

Beth

[ ] Re: Mental & Nervous symptoms

It scares me that I might have to give up Nystatin before candida

has been reduced enough for my nervous symptoms to stop. I would

like to experiment more with garlic, oregano oil, grapefruit seed

extract, and other natural antifungals to see if they stop these

nervous symptoms as quickly as Nystatin does. But I am having to

stay away from antifungals that might irritate my gastritis and

esophagus since my GI doc still wants to do more testing. I want

him to see a very healthy non-irritated GI tract so that my GP will

rule out GI problems & will believe that I truly have a candida.

Have you had any luck with natural antifungals immediately relieving

your mental/nervous symptoms?

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

> It scares me that I might have to give up Nystatin before candida

> has been reduced enough for my nervous symptoms to stop. I would

> like to experiment more with garlic, oregano oil, grapefruit seed

> extract, and other natural antifungals to see if they stop these

> nervous symptoms as quickly as Nystatin does. But I am having to

> stay away from antifungals that might irritate my gastritis and

> esophagus since my GI doc still wants to do more testing. I want

> him to see a very healthy non-irritated GI tract so that my GP will

> rule out GI problems & will believe that I truly have a candida.

>

> Have you had any luck with natural antifungals immediately

relieving

> your mental/nervous symptoms?

, I don't believe Nystatin is causing your nervous symptoms. I

think it's the toxins that are causing them. When you take any

antifungal it increases candida die-off which releases more toxins.

Also see this article for help with anxiety:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/treat6.php

Bee

[Guest guest]

> > It scares me that I might have to give up Nystatin before

candida

> > has been reduced enough for my nervous symptoms to stop. I

would

> > like to experiment more with garlic, oregano oil, grapefruit

seed

> > extract, and other natural antifungals to see if they stop these

> > nervous symptoms as quickly as Nystatin does. But I am having

to

> > stay away from antifungals that might irritate my gastritis and

> > esophagus since my GI doc still wants to do more testing. I

want

> > him to see a very healthy non-irritated GI tract so that my GP

will

> > rule out GI problems & will believe that I truly have a candida.

> >

> > Have you had any luck with natural antifungals immediately

> relieving

> > your mental/nervous symptoms?

>

> , I don't believe Nystatin is causing your nervous symptoms.

I

> think it's the toxins that are causing them. When you take any

> antifungal it increases candida die-off which releases more

toxins.

> Also see this article for help with anxiety:

> http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/treat6.php

>

> Bee

>

Hi, Bee.

It tends to be higher carbs, like an avacado, that sets off my

nervous symptoms. I have to take a lot of Nystatin (1/2 tsp. to 1

tsp. usually mixed with water) in order to calm my body down and

feel peaceful again. I really don't like having to depend on

Nystatin, but it seems to be the only thing that brings relief. I'm

worried that the fungus will become resistant to the Nystatin, then

I'm not sure if I'll be able to find something that will give me

such immediate relief.

Thanks for sending the link to your article. I just took all of my

supplements (as I do every day) and will go sit out in the sun for a

while.

Forever grateful for all of your help.

[Guest guest]

> >

> Hi, Bee.

> It tends to be higher carbs, like an avacado, that sets off my

> nervous symptoms. I have to take a lot of Nystatin (1/2 tsp. to 1

> tsp. usually mixed with water) in order to calm my body down and

> feel peaceful again. I really don't like having to depend on

> Nystatin, but it seems to be the only thing that brings relief.

I'm

> worried that the fungus will become resistant to the Nystatin, then

> I'm not sure if I'll be able to find something that will give me

> such immediate relief.

+++, I took nystatin powder for 2 1/2 years and still cured my

candida (I didn't know about natural antifungals back then; over 20

years ago). I don't think nystatin causes resistance like other

antifungal drugs which are very hard on the liver. Nystatin doesn't

get past the digestive system and kills candida on contact. Nystatin

is actually derived from soil (dirt).

>

> Thanks for sending the link to your article. I just took all of my

> supplements (as I do every day) and will go sit out in the sun for

a while.

>

> Forever grateful for all of your help.

+++You are so welcome .

Bee

[Guest guest]

Why would you have to give up Nystatin? I took it for several years. It was

the only anitfungal that worked for me. After the worst of the candida was

tamed, I now can take the natural ones to keep it in check. I never could take

Oregano oil.

[Guest guest]

>

> Me too! I've done a little over a year and I have two more years

> remaining. I can't wait to experience total health! I think I've had

> candida since birth.

>

Hi ,

Thanks for sharing- I've probably had candida since birth as well (I

realized my father always had it), but was lucky to be on high good

fats diet as a child. My symptoms got pronounced in my late twenties,

after years of taking vegetable oils, margarines and experimenting with

the vegetarian diet.

How do you feel now, especially regarding nervous symptoms? I've been

on the diet since 6 months (I've cheated few times though), and it's

stil challenging (mostly with fatigue, irritability and depression),

but at times I feel so calm and peaceful, and I've handled some

stressful situations without getting angry, for the first time in years

-simply couldn't believe it was me!

There are also days I feel so good, I didn't know one can feel like

that in a body, lol! It gives the strenght to go through the " die-off

periods " . All the best to you,

Dejana

[Guest guest]

>Dejana, I hope your 3-year journey to recovery goes smoothly &

> quickly. I'm not sure how long my recovery may be since I've taken

> antibiotics since my teen years for acne (I'm 41). I just started

> having sensitivity issues this year. I'm sure I'll be depending on

> this site for many years in the future.

>

Hi ,

Thank you! If you haven't been sick before teen years, then you are

looking at only 2,5y max !

Did I understand well, you say you feel good when taking Nystatin?

Continuously, for 2 months?

I never took Nystatin, but I take garlic, VCO, wormwood tea, and did

take Itraconazole once (mistake), and they don't elevate my symptoms-

but all make me feel bad, due to released toxins from dying candida.

But lately the physical symptoms are getting less, and also, I " m not

depressed (hence I bother everyone with my messages, lol!)

So it is strange that you don't experience die-off symptoms after 2

months of taking it. Are you checking your carb ratio on fitday, to

make sure you don't feed candida? I was surprised to find it's very

easy to reach 50g carbs benchmark even with only green veggies.

[Guest guest]

>

> Why would you have to give up Nystatin? I took it for several

years. It was the only anitfungal that worked for me. After the worst

of the candida was tamed, I now can take the natural ones to keep it

in check. I never could take Oregano oil.

>

>

>

I'm afraid that my doctor will stop prescribing it. Also, some people

have said that the fungus can build up a resistance to it over time.

But maybe that won't be the case since you and Bee took it for several

years and it worked for you.

Thanks for sharing your experience. You made me feel better about

long-term use of Nystatin.

[Guest guest]

> Hi ,

>

> Thank you! If you haven't been sick before teen years, then you

are

> looking at only 2,5y max !

>

> Did I understand well, you say you feel good when taking Nystatin?

> Continuously, for 2 months?

> I never took Nystatin, but I take garlic, VCO, wormwood tea, and

did

> take Itraconazole once (mistake), and they don't elevate my

symptoms-

> but all make me feel bad, due to released toxins from dying

candida.

> But lately the physical symptoms are getting less, and also, I " m

not

> depressed (hence I bother everyone with my messages, lol!)

>

> So it is strange that you don't experience die-off symptoms after

2

> months of taking it. Are you checking your carb ratio on fitday,

to

> make sure you don't feed candida? I was surprised to find it's

very

> easy to reach 50g carbs benchmark even with only green veggies.

>

Hi, Dejana.

Nystatin gave me a lot of die off the first two weeks I took

it...kidneys ached, bladder irritation, pain in stomach, flu-like

symptoms, itching. I felt so bad I called my doctor's office &

asked if I should reduce the dosage (which was only 1/8 tsp w/one

ounce water 4 times a day). She told me to stick with the dosage.

My ongoing symptoms are continuous feeling of sticky mucous &

drainage in throat that feels like it feeds off of everything I eat

(even just proteins) and then when I eat a high carb vegetable, like

an avocado, my skin starts to crawl and have extreme anxiety. Taking

Nystatin calms that anxiety - I think by killing off some of the

fungus that is feeding & growing & taking over my body.

I really don't think I eat many carbs (mostly protein & fats);

however, I have not checked my carb ratio on fitday. I'm not sure

if I'll be smart enough to figure it out! But you're right, I need

to try to do that.

I think I may be fighting two types of fungal problems. This may

have started with fungus in my sinuses that has never been treated

properly. After 2 colds, then taking lots of antibiotics for strep

& sinus infection, I continued to have post nasal drip. An allergist

assumed reflux must be causing the problem & prescribed Nexium &

Zantac. I was then given more antibiotics for a severe acne

problem. I do believe that I may have developed systemic candida,

but I do wonder why I'm not having die-off symptoms any more, just

yeast syndrome symptoms.

I am really strict with this diet, hoping to starve this fungus in

my sinuses and body. I've lost 10 pounds & weigh about 79 pounds,

but I am only 4' 9 1/2 " .

I am tempted to try a stronger prescription anti-fungal for at least

irrigating my sinuses. I think if I could get rid of this mucous in

my throat, my whole body would feel better.

What happened when you took Itraconazole? How did you take it & why

was it a mistake?

Thanks for listening, sharing & caring!

[Guest guest]

> Hi, Dejana.

>

> Nystatin gave me a lot of die off the first two weeks I took

> it...kidneys ached, bladder irritation, pain in stomach, flu-like

> symptoms, itching. I felt so bad I called my doctor's office &

> asked if I should reduce the dosage (which was only 1/8 tsp w/one

> ounce water 4 times a day). She told me to stick with the dosage.

>

> My ongoing symptoms are continuous feeling of sticky mucous &

> drainage in throat that feels like it feeds off of everything I eat

> (even just proteins) and then when I eat a high carb vegetable,

like

> an avocado, my skin starts to crawl and have extreme anxiety.

Taking

> Nystatin calms that anxiety - I think by killing off some of the

> fungus that is feeding & growing & taking over my body.

>

> I really don't think I eat many carbs (mostly protein & fats);

> however, I have not checked my carb ratio on fitday. I'm not sure

> if I'll be smart enough to figure it out! But you're right, I need

> to try to do that.

>

> I think I may be fighting two types of fungal problems. This may

> have started with fungus in my sinuses that has never been treated

> properly. After 2 colds, then taking lots of antibiotics for strep

> & sinus infection, I continued to have post nasal drip. An

allergist

> assumed reflux must be causing the problem & prescribed Nexium &

> Zantac. I was then given more antibiotics for a severe acne

> problem. I do believe that I may have developed systemic candida,

> but I do wonder why I'm not having die-off symptoms any more, just

> yeast syndrome symptoms.

+++, you wouldn't have more than 1 kind of fungal infection, but

candida can be overgrowing in any and all mucus membranes (at the

same time or some and not others), which includes, ears, eyes,

sinuses, nose, mouth, throat, esophagus, stomach intestines, and

reproductive organs.

+++It is extremely rare to develop systemic candida. What you are

experiencing in many areas is caused by the toxins produced by

candida, and not by systemic overgrowth.

+++Also, what do you mean you are having yeast syndrome symptoms?

Die-off symptoms and yeast overgrowing symptoms are the same types of

symptoms.

>

> I am really strict with this diet, hoping to starve this fungus in

> my sinuses and body. I've lost 10 pounds & weigh about 79 pounds,

> but I am only 4' 9 1/2 " .

+++Your goal should be to " build up your immune system " since it must

become strong enough to " make " candida " change back " into the nice

friendly organism it was before it started overgrowing.

>

> I am tempted to try a stronger prescription anti-fungal for at

least irrigating my sinuses. I think if I could get rid of this

mucous in my throat, my whole body would feel better.

+++It is always the case that fungus is overgrowing in your sinuses.

The sinuses are one of the best ways for the body to get rid of

toxins, which clogs them up like crazy. Here's good treatments for

your sinuses, which may help the symptoms some:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/sinus5.php

The best to you, Bee

[Guest guest]

>>I've been on the diet since 6 months (I've cheated few times though), and

it's

stil challenging (mostly with fatigue, irritability and depression),

but at times I feel so calm and peaceful, and I've handled some

stressful situations without getting angry, for the first time in years

-simply couldn't believe it was me!

Hi Dejana

Thanks for saying that - I have been soooo grumpy since I started this diet

(it didn't help that my period was starting as well). I have been on anti

depressants for several years and am slowly coming off them. It is scary

some times. I wonder if I will ever be able to cope without them, but I have

gained a lot of courage from the things Ive read on Bee's site.

Anger is probably my biggest problem and so it was wonderful to read your

post.. You have bolstered my confidence no end.

Thanks again

(Homeschooling mum of two teens)

Adelaide Australia

[Guest guest]

> +++, you wouldn't have more than 1 kind of fungal infection,

but

> candida can be overgrowing in any and all mucus membranes (at the

> same time or some and not others), which includes, ears, eyes,

> sinuses, nose, mouth, throat, esophagus, stomach intestines, and

> reproductive organs.

====So a person can't have two different fungal infections in their

body? I have been so confused about what's going on with my

body...not knowing if I have several causes for my problems or just

one. I was thinking that the mucus in throat was caused by one

fungus in sinuses and the anxiety, food sensitivities, acne, &

polycystic ovaries were caused by the candida since the mucus in

throat started several months prior to other symptoms.

> +++It is extremely rare to develop systemic candida. What you are

> experiencing in many areas is caused by the toxins produced by

> candida, and not by systemic overgrowth.

====I did not know systemic candida was rare. How would you know if

you had systemic candida? What are the symptoms?

> +++Also, what do you mean you are having yeast syndrome symptoms?

> Die-off symptoms and yeast overgrowing symptoms are the same types

of

> symptoms.

====The die-off symptoms that I experienced during my first two

weeks of using Nystatin were completely different from my chronic

symptoms prior to anti-candida treatment. Nystatin caused me to

have aches in my kidneys, bladder irritation, flu-like symptoms.

Now I'm just back to feeling the same way I did before starting the

diet & treatments with constant mucus in throat and sensitivity to

high carb vegetables. I wish I could feel some die-off symptoms I've

experienced before and some relief from this mucus, then I would

feel I'm making progress.

> +++Your goal should be to " build up your immune system " since it

must

> become strong enough to " make " candida " change back " into the nice

> friendly organism it was before it started overgrowing.

====I'm taking all of the supplements; I'm just a terrible cook & it

seems difficult for me to get the nutrition that I need.

> >

> > I am tempted to try a stronger prescription anti-fungal for at

> least irrigating my sinuses. I think if I could get rid of this

> mucous in my throat, my whole body would feel better.

>

> +++It is always the case that fungus is overgrowing in your

sinuses.

> The sinuses are one of the best ways for the body to get rid of

> toxins, which clogs them up like crazy. Here's good treatments

for

> your sinuses, which may help the symptoms some:

> http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/sinus5.php

====Thank you so much for the info! I'm sure it will help in my

struggle for relief.

> The best to you, Bee

====The best to you, too! You're an awesome lady!

[Guest guest]

>

>

> > +++, you wouldn't have more than 1 kind of fungal infection,

> but

> > candida can be overgrowing in any and all mucus membranes (at the

> > same time or some and not others), which includes, ears, eyes,

> > sinuses, nose, mouth, throat, esophagus, stomach intestines, and

> > reproductive organs.

>

> ====So a person can't have two different fungal infections in their

> body? I have been so confused about what's going on with my

> body...not knowing if I have several causes for my problems or just

> one. I was thinking that the mucus in throat was caused by one

> fungus in sinuses and the anxiety, food sensitivities, acne, &

> polycystic ovaries were caused by the candida since the mucus in

> throat started several months prior to other symptoms.

>

> > +++It is extremely rare to develop systemic candida. What you

are

> > experiencing in many areas is caused by the toxins produced by

> > candida, and not by systemic overgrowth.

>

> ====I did not know systemic candida was rare. How would you know

if you had systemic candida? What are the symptoms?

~~~Hi . I haven't known anyone who has systemic candida, and

I've only seen it referred to by the medical field who believe that

candida is an infection and so they believe it can be cured by

killing it off. I knew a lady in my Candida Support Group 20 years

ago who had brain lesions caused by candida. After doing the program

for 2 years tests proved she no longer had lesions.

~~~Candida puts out over 79 different kinds of toxins which are

designed by nature to break down the body into dust after it dies.

Candida isn't supposed to change and start overgrowing until the body

is dead. It's the candida toxins that causes the damage throughout

the body, because they circulate everywhere.

>

> > +++Also, what do you mean you are having yeast syndrome

symptoms? Die-off symptoms and yeast overgrowing symptoms are the

same types of symptoms.

>

> ====The die-off symptoms that I experienced during my first two

> weeks of using Nystatin were completely different from my chronic

> symptoms prior to anti-candida treatment. Nystatin caused me to

> have aches in my kidneys, bladder irritation, flu-like symptoms.

> Now I'm just back to feeling the same way I did before starting the

> diet & treatments with constant mucus in throat and sensitivity to

> high carb vegetables. I wish I could feel some die-off symptoms

I've experienced before and some relief from this mucus, then I would

feel I'm making progress.

~~~The reason you appear to have different symptoms after taking

nystatin is because when candida is killed off it produces hugh

numbers of toxins compared to when it is overgrowing. When there are

more toxins, the body has to get rid of them somehow by detoxifying

them. Actually detoxifying/die-off and healing symptoms are all the

same thing, called the Herxheimer Reaction - see this article:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/heal2.php

~~~The body creates more mucus in order to flush out toxins.

> > +++Your goal should be to " build up your immune system " since it

> must become strong enough to " make " candida " change back " into the

nice friendly organism it was before it started overgrowing.

>

> ====I'm taking all of the supplements; I'm just a terrible cook &

it seems difficult for me to get the nutrition that I need.

~~~It can be tough, but simple nutritious meals aren't difficult to

make. The egg drink for breakfast is so easy and fast to make.

Ground meats are easy too. I live alone so I don't spend much time

cooking. When I make bone broths they basically cook themselves

without much effort. I also make crock pot meals.

> > >

> > > I am tempted to try a stronger prescription anti-fungal for at

> > least irrigating my sinuses. I think if I could get rid of this

> > mucous in my throat, my whole body would feel better.

> >

> > +++It is always the case that fungus is overgrowing in your

> sinuses.

~~~, I meant to write " It isn't always the case that fungus is

overgrowing in your sinuses. " Excessive mucous is a sign that the

program is working - see these articles about mucus:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/menu1_3_3.php

~~~Your body can detoxify through any oriface (opening), including

the skin. Some people detoxify more through their intestines so they

get diarrhea. Some detoxify more through their reproductive organs

or through their stomach, etc. When I had candida I detoxified

through my eyes for 3 months!

====The best to you, too! You're an awesome lady!

Thanks .

Luv, Bee

[Guest guest]

--- In , " cathyc2468 " <jc-canales@...>

>

> My ongoing symptoms are continuous feeling of sticky mucous &

> drainage in throat

>

> I really don't think I eat many carbs (mostly protein & fats);

> however, I have not checked my carb ratio on fitday. I'm not sure

> if I'll be smart enough to figure it out! But you're right, I need

> to try to do that.

>

> I am tempted to try a stronger prescription anti-fungal for at

least my sinuses.

>

> What happened when you took Itraconazole? How did you take it &

why was it a mistake?

Hi ,

Sorry for the late reply. Even writing emails on this group is too

much stress (I never know how will people react),so I have to prepare

myself:).

About mucous- I brush my tongue every morning, up to the root of the

tongue, until my eyes start to fill with tears and I need to spit.I

pay attention not to harm the back of the throat- just to have this

unpleasant feeling of wanting to throw up. I brush my teeth with a

toothpaste, as the foam mixes with mucous and it's easier to spit it

out. I've been doing it for the past 2 weeks, and I don't have mucous

in my throat during the day anymore. Yey! My ears feel better as

well, maybe because of it- I'm not sure. Thank God I live alone as

it's quite a concert in my bathroom every morning :-)

I realized it is very important to 'physically' clean the body of

candida, it makes the 'feeling good' intervals longer. For ex. skin

brushing with loofa in an epsom salt baths in a very hot water makes

me feel clean & restful for 2 days afterwards. I also plan to do ear

cleaning with oil, but I " m a bit scarred that they'll burn my ears

(in China you never know:).

I warmly recommend you try fitday! You don't have to do it every day-

do it for 2-3 days, just to see what are the real ratios of food you

eat. For ex. 3 eggs have already 4g of carbs. 1 cup of cooked

broccoli has 11g, etc. It's really not that difficult- there are

several menues on the left, so you can choose how to search for

food.If I could figure out how to calculate grams to ozons, I'm sure

you can do it:)!

Regarding Itraconazole- It was the first thing I took after I found

out I have candida in March. Die-off was terrible,most of the time

sleeping and feeling exhausted and hang-overed. Severe brain fog, my

speaking and thinking was about 3 times slower than usual. It was

SCARRY. Then I finally stumbled upon Bee's group. Needless to

mention, I didn't feel any better after finishing Itraconazole,

except I probably damaged my liver in the process.

After 6 months on this diet, I see how important it is to eat well. I

have to eat home-maid cooked food from fresh, or I immediately start

to feel sick (flu, sinuses etc).

Not sure if any of this helps you , since we are all different.

And it's not only the food that affects us- it's the environment we

live in, people that surround us that make a difference. Thank you

for sharing and caring as well. Wish you well,

Dejana

[Guest guest]

>

I wonder if I will ever be able to cope without them, but I have

> gained a lot of courage from the things Ive read on Bee's site.

>

> Anger is probably my biggest problem and so it was wonderful to

read your

> post.. You have bolstered my confidence no end.

>

> Thanks again

> (Homeschooling mum of two teens)

> Adelaide Australia

>

Hi ,

So glad to hear you felt better! And I am sure in time you will get

off anti-depressants completely. It's a big step towards improvement

for anyone who has started this program.

As a homeschooling mum of two teens, you certainly have a fulfilling,

but not exactly the easisest job around, eh!Your children are

probably heatlhy, and I find it's hard for healthy people to

understand " candida craziness " , since it's not visible. Sometimes I

think people will have more understanding and compassion if they

could 'see' I was sick.

So it is tough, but hang in there and soon you will be amazed by

yourself as well :-)

All the best,

Dejana

[Guest guest]

Hi Dejana

>I find it's hard for healthy people to understand " candida craziness " ,

since it's not visible.

LOL - yes my boys are always saying " You're going back to bed AGAIN!!??? "

with that incredulous voice that teens are so great at. The funny thing is

that I have been so much better on this diet and I would have thought if I

was having a bad day they would take it in their stride, but they still feel

miffed that I am not there to hang out with them, and I still get the

" Oooow, mum " . <grin>

(Homeschooling mum of two teens)

Adelaide Australia