Re: Watch an amalgam realease it&#039;s toxin!

Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine

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heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times. " --

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>> >http://www.iaomt.org/merc_release.swf

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April 9, 2004

> RE: Watch an amalgam realease it's toxin!

>

>At 09:40 AM 4/9/2004, you wrote:

>>

>>Holy sh**....pretty disturbing.

>>

>>I'm just about to start getting mine removed (I have *many*). And I often

>>wonder if it's at the root of my health issues.

>

>hahahahhasuze -

>a friend of ours had his out and suddenly ALL of his allergies went away.

>he was a constant claritin addict, never without a box of tissues, etc.

>suddenly? picture of health. now if only i could get them to stop eating

>grains, his add would go away!

>

>-wheeeekatja

>

I think there are a lot of anecdotes like that around. Sally Fallon said her

concentration problems (or was it brain fog?) cleared up after hers were

removed.

I'd wager that my mouth FULL of mercury amalgams could well be at the root

of many of my health issues.

Suze Fisher

Lapdog Design, Inc.

Web Design & Development

Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine

----------------------------

" The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause

heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times. " --

Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt

University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher.

The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0895295504/

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April 9, 2004

You and me both.... After a hair test 18 months ago, I found out my

levels were so high, that the people who organised my test had only

ever seen one sample test higher. And that woman had severe

neurological problems.

I'm too scared to have my amalgams out in case my levels get even

higher.

Apparently many of the things that mobilise mercury don;t then carry

it out of the body, but just deposit it elsewhere. Terry from the

WAPF board has told me about some stuff that she used, that I;m

going to check out.

deb

>

> I'd wager that my mouth FULL of mercury amalgams could well be at

the root

> of many of my health issues.

>

> Suze Fisher

April 9, 2004

Deb and Suze,

There is a group called Adult-metal-chelation which should be very

helpful to you.

Re: Watch an amalgam realease it's toxin!

> You and me both.... After a hair test 18 months ago, I found out my

> levels were so high, that the people who organised my test had only

> ever seen one sample test higher. And that woman had severe

> neurological problems.

>

> I'm too scared to have my amalgams out in case my levels get even

> higher.

>

> Apparently many of the things that mobilise mercury don;t then carry

> it out of the body, but just deposit it elsewhere. Terry from the

> WAPF board has told me about some stuff that she used, that I;m

> going to check out.

>

> deb

>

> >

> > I'd wager that my mouth FULL of mercury amalgams could well be at

> the root

> > of many of my health issues.

> >

> > Suze Fisher

>

April 9, 2004

Didn't I read in Sally's book that the glucuronic acid found in kombucha

binds to mercury and takes it out of the body? What substances mobilize

mercury but don't take them out of the body?

Helen

> From: Deb <deb@...>

> Reply-

> Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2004 15:23:44 +0000

>

> Subject: Re: Watch an amalgam realease it's toxin!

>

> You and me both.... After a hair test 18 months ago, I found out my

> levels were so high, that the people who organised my test had only

> ever seen one sample test higher. And that woman had severe

> neurological problems.

>

> I'm too scared to have my amalgams out in case my levels get even

> higher.

>

> Apparently many of the things that mobilise mercury don;t then carry

> it out of the body, but just deposit it elsewhere. Terry from the

> WAPF board has told me about some stuff that she used, that I;m

> going to check out.

>

> deb

>

>>

>> I'd wager that my mouth FULL of mercury amalgams could well be at

> the root

>> of many of my health issues.

>>

>> Suze Fisher

>

April 9, 2004

From what I understand, cilantro will mobilize mercury but not take it out

of the body. Someone who knows more than I do about herbs may be able to

say more about it though. I know there are other herbs that can take it

out, but don't recall what they are at the moment.

~ Fern

----- Original Message -----

From: " Lampinen "

>

> Didn't I read in Sally's book that the glucuronic acid found in kombucha

> binds to mercury and takes it out of the body? What substances mobilize

> mercury but don't take them out of the body?

>

> Helen

April 9, 2004

Have you read the book, *It's All in Your Head* by Dr. Hal Huggins?

It's very interesting and very scary, much like Dangerous Grains. Of course

it's hard to know whether he's seeing everything through mercury-tainted

eyes or not. My health practitioner who does CRA and applied kinesiology

told me that only one of my teeth was leaking mercury and advised me to

have that filling replaced with a non-mercury filling. An x-ray confirmed

that the filling was cracked, so it makes sense that it was leaking. His

position (my doctor's, not Huggins') is that as long as nothing compromises

the filling, that it doesn't cause problems. Once the filling was removed

my doc gave me a supplement to remove the mercury from my system, and my

severe headaches cleared up.

They came back later due to other issues, which he also helped clear up,

and now I'm almost headache free, for which I'm VERY thankful.

So, whether or not he is correct about my other fillings, I really don't

know for sure. I'm assuming for now that he is.

Huggins has an organization that helps you locate a dentist that follows

his protocol for proper removal of amalgam fillings. According to him it's

important that they're removed in the proper order and that the procedure

used doesn't contaminate your system further.

In my case, my doc didn't think the type of procedure would be a problem

for me since he had something to give me to remove the mercury from my

system aftewards. So I just went to a local dentist who uses composite

fillings. That seemed to work well for me. But at times I still wonder

about the other fillings and the one root canal I have. I wish now I

would've never allowed that to be done! It was before I knew any better

tho.

~ Fern

----- Original Message -----

From: " Suze Fisher "

> I'd wager that my mouth FULL of mercury amalgams could well be at the

root

> of many of my health issues.

April 9, 2004

Regarding mercury amalgams, I am posting the below just to draw light to the

ease at which mercury crosses the placenta.

I spoke myself to the author of this study who is a Forensic scientist ( a

doctor who carries out autopsies !) .

He has carried out many studies on mercury. I have found similar independant

reports/studies correlating number of amalgams with fetal levels of Hg on

Medline. To say that the mercury is tightly bound with other metals and can

not escape from the tooth is not supported by science. I can't understand

why the average dentist has not heard of these studies. Dr.Drasch even has a

study reporting abnormally high levels of mercury in Alzheimers patients.

Best regards,

in Germany

(who had 14 old amalgams while pregnant with daughter)

Mercury burden of human fetal and infant tissues.

Eur J Pediatr 1994 Aug;153(8):607-10 (ISSN: 0340-6199)

Drasch G; Schupp I; Hofl H; Reinke R; Roider G

Institut fur Rechtsmedizin, Munchen, Germany.

The total mercury concentrations in the liver (Hg-L), the kidney

cortex (Hg-K) and the cerebral cortex (Hg-C) of 108 children aged 1 day-5

years, and the Hg-K and Hg-L of 46 fetuses were determined. As far as

possible, the mothers were interviewed and their dental status was recorded.

The results were compared to mercury concentrations in the tissues of adults

from the same geographical area. The Hg-K (n = 38) and Hg-L (n = 40) of

fetuses and Hg-K (n = 35) and Hg-C (n = 35) of older infants (11-50 weeks of

life) correlated significantly with the number of dental amalgam fillings of

the mother. The toxicological relevance of the unexpected high Hg-K of older

infants from mothers with higher numbers of dental amalgam fillings is

discussed. CONCLUSION: Future discussion on the pros and cons of dental

amalgam should not be limited to adults or children with their own amalgam

fillings, but also include fetal exposure. The unrestricted application of

amalgam for dental restorations in women before and during the child-bearing

age should be reconsidered.

Comment In: Comment In: RefSource:Eur J Pediatr. 1995 Jul;

154(7):585-6/PMID:7556329; Comment In: Comment In: RefSource:Eur J Pediatr.

1995 Jun; 154(6):498-9/PMID:7671951

April 9, 2004

> Huggins has an organization that helps you locate a dentist that

follows

> his protocol for proper removal of amalgam fillings. According to

him it's

> important that they're removed in the proper order and that the

procedure

> used doesn't contaminate your system further.

Could this be it? http://www.testfoundation.org/hgfreedentists.htm

It sounds very similar. I found this site after I'd asked Katja who

the dentist was that took out her friends fillings. The only one

listed for my entire state happens to be in the same town as the one

I work in! Woo hoo! I only have three small fillings, but I

wouldn't be in the least surprised if they are causing problems.

Ghislaine

April 9, 2004

That was my thought, too! Time to go to the dentist...

~~Carolyn

> Holy sh**....pretty disturbing.

>

> I'm just about to start getting mine removed (I have *many*). And

I often

> wonder if it's at the root of my health issues.

> Suze Fisher

April 9, 2004

> Re: Watch an amalgam realease it's toxin!

>

>Have you read the book, *It's All in Your Head* by Dr. Hal Huggins?

>

>http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0895295504/

I have one of Hal Huggins books, not sure if that's the one.

>

>It's very interesting and very scary, much like Dangerous Grains. Of course

>it's hard to know whether he's seeing everything through mercury-tainted

>eyes or not. My health practitioner who does CRA and applied kinesiology

>told me that only one of my teeth was leaking mercury and advised me to

>have that filling replaced with a non-mercury filling. An x-ray confirmed

>that the filling was cracked, so it makes sense that it was leaking. His

>position (my doctor's, not Huggins') is that as long as nothing compromises

>the filling, that it doesn't cause problems. Once the filling was removed

>my doc gave me a supplement to remove the mercury from my system, and my

>severe headaches cleared up.

I dunno...did you look at the link posted? Apparently mercuy vapor escapes

basically all_the_time, not just when a tooth is cracked. I've read this

numerous times prior to seeing this video.

>

>Huggins has an organization that helps you locate a dentist that follows

>his protocol for proper removal of amalgam fillings. According to him it's

>important that they're removed in the proper order and that the procedure

>used doesn't contaminate your system further.

My dentist worked with a dentist listed on the Price-Pottenger list of

WAP-compatible dentists, and who specializes in mercury amalgam removals. I

feel pretty confident that he knows what he's doing. In fact, he's having me

go to a specialist in heavy metal chelation before I begin removal, and I

think I will continue to see him til the removals are finished.

Suze Fisher

Lapdog Design, Inc.

Web Design & Development

Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine

----------------------------

“The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause

heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times.” --

Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt

University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher.

The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics

http://www.drhuggins.com/default.asp?PageName=The%20Multidiscipline%20Alliance

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>

April 9, 2004

----- Original Message -----

From: " Suze Fisher "

> >the filling, that it doesn't cause problems. Once the filling was

removed

> >my doc gave me a supplement to remove the mercury from my system, and my

> >severe headaches cleared up.

>

> I dunno...did you look at the link posted? Apparently mercuy vapor

escapes

> basically all_the_time, not just when a tooth is cracked. I've read this

> numerous times prior to seeing this video.

I have also, and Huggins claims the same thing. However, since my doc

seemed confident that only my one tooth needed attention for now, I decided

to go that route. Perhaps the others are causing more problems than I

realize though.

> >Huggins has an organization that helps you locate a dentist that follows

> >his protocol for proper removal of amalgam fillings. According to him

it's

> >important that they're removed in the proper order and that the

procedure

> >used doesn't contaminate your system further.

>

> My dentist worked with a dentist listed on the Price-Pottenger list of

> WAP-compatible dentists, and who specializes in mercury amalgam removals.

I

> feel pretty confident that he knows what he's doing. In fact, he's having

me

> go to a specialist in heavy metal chelation before I begin removal, and I

> think I will continue to see him til the removals are finished.

Sounds good.

Have you had any success with the pepto diet? I've been having some ups and

downs ... I had a communion wafer last Sunday that I think threw me off. I

seemed to have a reaction to it both immediate (headache and emotional) and

the next day (stomach). I'd been doing pretty well until then. Then I was

dragging so much that I decided to go back on my adrenal supplement (first

ingredient is wheat germ), which I don't think was a good idea. I'm off

that again and taking other things I know will support my adrenals and that

part's going pretty well. As far as my stomach, as long as I'm taking the

pepto or drinking chamomile tea, it feels pretty good. One good that's come

out of it all so far is that I'm pretty sure now there is a gluten

connection, or at least wheat. But I think there's still something else

that I haven't yet figured out.

~ Fern

April 9, 2004

----- Original Message -----

From: " ghislainedel "

> > Huggins has an organization that helps you locate a dentist that

> follows

> > his protocol for proper removal of amalgam fillings. According to

> him it's

> > important that they're removed in the proper order and that the

> procedure

> > used doesn't contaminate your system further.

>

> Could this be it? http://www.testfoundation.org/hgfreedentists.htm

> It sounds very similar. I found this site after I'd asked Katja who

> the dentist was that took out her friends fillings. The only one

> listed for my entire state happens to be in the same town as the one

> I work in! Woo hoo! I only have three small fillings, but I

> wouldn't be in the least surprised if they are causing problems.

You're very fortunate! The closest one to me is about three hours away.

This is the page on Dr. Huggins site that has the phone # to call to get a

referral:

~ Fern

April 9, 2004

>I'm pretty sure now there is a gluten

>connection, or at least wheat. But I think there's still something else

>that I haven't yet figured out.

>

>~ Fern

If you have a gluten sensitivity the chances are you

are short on some vitamins and minerals (when you

have stomach/gut issues they don't absorb right). I

found vitamin B, calcium and magnesium helped

immediately. Digestive enzymes too (after the test ...).

And you DO have to watch supplements, they use wheat germ

in a lot of them, and wheat starch is in some pills.

I also checked my shampoo ... turns out my old shampoo

had wheat germ oil in it.

Interesting about the communion wafer. Did you take your

pulse? They have GF communion wafers now, at some churches.

-- Heidi JEan

April 10, 2004

Back when the whole amalgam thing was kicking off, I had a newbie

'holistic' dentist remove all mine in one fail swoop. She used no oral

damn procedures or other techniques to prevent further mercury release

and toxification. The night after the procedure I lay in bed unable to

sleep, feeling like the human embodiment of the jersey turnpike.

Last year, I tested clean for mercury and a host of other toxic heavy

metals. I suppose that affirms the long term chelating effects of

green superfoods and seaweeds in one's diet.

jo

On Friday, April 9, 2004, at 01:00 PM,

wrote:

> Re: Watch an amalgam realease it's toxin!

April 10, 2004

> Re: Watch an amalgam realease it's toxin!

>Have you had any success with the pepto diet?

I haven't started yet - I wanted to wait until after my birthday dinner,

which is tonight (although my birthday's actually on Tues.) because I didn't

want to come to the dinner only able to eat a few things and pepto bismol

for dessert. I was actually going to kick it off with a 5 day water fast,

then the pepto diet, but now I think I'll just do the pepto diet and save

the fast til my amalgams are out. In fact, I'm thinking I may only be

dealing with a bandaid solution with the pepto diet as I have suspected for

some time that mercury could well be the root cause of health issues, and

that includes the bloating. But I'll give the pepto diet a shot,

nonetheless.

I've been having some ups and

>downs ... I had a communion wafer last Sunday that I think threw me off. I

>seemed to have a reaction to it both immediate (headache and emotional) and

>the next day (stomach). I'd been doing pretty well until then.

Wow! I was just talking about the wafers the other day with . I was

worried about eating them even as small as they are, as I know some folks

react to even the smallest bit of gluten. Sounds like you did.

>dragging so much that I decided to go back on my adrenal supplement (first

>ingredient is wheat germ), which I don't think was a good idea. I'm off

>that again and taking other things I know will support my adrenals and that

>part's going pretty well.

My adrenal support sup only contains adrenal and adrenal cortex. I think I

will continue taking it on the pepto diet.

As far as my stomach, as long as I'm taking the

>pepto or drinking chamomile tea, it feels pretty good. One good that's come

>out of it all so far is that I'm pretty sure now there is a gluten

>connection, or at least wheat. But I think there's still something else

>that I haven't yet figured out.

It certainly sounds like wheat's a problem. How's your bloating - you still

bloated?

Suze Fisher

Lapdog Design, Inc.

Web Design & Development

Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine

----------------------------

“The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause

heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times.” --

Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt

University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher.

The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics

----------------------------

April 10, 2004

> Re: Watch an amalgam realease it's toxin!

>

>----- Original Message -----

>From: " Suze Fisher "

>

>> >the filling, that it doesn't cause problems. Once the filling was

>removed

>> >my doc gave me a supplement to remove the mercury from my system, and my

>> >severe headaches cleared up.

>>

>> I dunno...did you look at the link posted? Apparently mercuy vapor

>escapes

>> basically all_the_time, not just when a tooth is cracked. I've read this

>> numerous times prior to seeing this video.

>

>I have also, and Huggins claims the same thing. However, since my doc

>seemed confident that only my one tooth needed attention for now, I decided

>to go that route. Perhaps the others are causing more problems than I

>realize though.

I would guess so, since they release mercury vapor every time you eat, drink

hot liquid, brush or grind your teeth. My question, is how much mercury is

left after much of it's been translocated to other parts of the body? Did

you watch the video? In the experiments they did with sheep and monkeys,

most of it ended up in the liver and kidneys. I think it's a good idea to

eat chelating agents with each meal nonetheless. I usually have a glass of

water and Dr. Schulze's superfood with my morning snack and that's loaded

with chlorella. I also always eat greens with dinner (spinach, arugala,

lettuce, etc) so hope they provide any necessary chlorella for chelation,

although I don't know if I'm expecting too much. I take 300 mgs of alpha

lipoic acid every morning too, maybe I should take it with dinner instead

though, for chelation purposes. I think I'd read somewhere that it's an even

better chelator than chlorella.

I can't recall which is which, but one of these is especially good at

chelating heavy metals already embedded in organs/tissue, while the other is

best at escorting heavy metals from the digestive tract, and I think you're

supposed to be sure to take both for this reason. When I actually have my

amalgams removed though, I think the chelation expert I'm going to will use

DMSA.

Suze Fisher

Lapdog Design, Inc.

Web Design & Development

Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine

----------------------------

“The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause

heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times.” --

Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt

University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher.

The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics

> http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg

----------------------------

>

April 10, 2004

NEVER ever use a chelator while the amalgams are still in your mouth.

You will get quite ill as the mercury will be liberated and re-deposited.

Wait til you get the amalgams out and THEN chelate.

in Germany

Re: Watch an amalgam realease it's toxin!

> >

> >----- Original Message -----

> >From: " Suze Fisher "

> >

> >> >the filling, that it doesn't cause problems. Once the filling was

> >removed

> >> >my doc gave me a supplement to remove the mercury from my system,

and my

> >> >severe headaches cleared up.

> >>

> >> I dunno...did you look at the link posted? Apparently mercuy vapor

> >escapes

> >> basically all_the_time, not just when a tooth is cracked. I've read

this

> >> numerous times prior to seeing this video.

> >

> >I have also, and Huggins claims the same thing. However, since my doc

> >seemed confident that only my one tooth needed attention for now, I

decided

> >to go that route. Perhaps the others are causing more problems than I

> >realize though.

>

> I would guess so, since they release mercury vapor every time you eat,

drink

> hot liquid, brush or grind your teeth. My question, is how much mercury

is

> left after much of it's been translocated to other parts of the body?

Did

> you watch the video? In the experiments they did with sheep and monkeys,

> most of it ended up in the liver and kidneys. I think it's a good idea

to

> eat chelating agents with each meal nonetheless. I usually have a glass

of

> water and Dr. Schulze's superfood with my morning snack and that's

loaded

> with chlorella. I also always eat greens with dinner (spinach, arugala,

> lettuce, etc) so hope they provide any necessary chlorella for

chelation,

> although I don't know if I'm expecting too much. I take 300 mgs of alpha

> lipoic acid every morning too, maybe I should take it with dinner

instead

> though, for chelation purposes. I think I'd read somewhere that it's an

even

> better chelator than chlorella.

>

> I can't recall which is which, but one of these is especially good at

> chelating heavy metals already embedded in organs/tissue, while the

other is

> best at escorting heavy metals from the digestive tract, and I think

you're

> supposed to be sure to take both for this reason. When I actually have

my

> amalgams removed though, I think the chelation expert I'm going to will

use

> DMSA.

>

> Suze Fisher

> Lapdog Design, Inc.

> Web Design & Development

> Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine

> http://www.westonaprice.org

>

> ----------------------------

> " The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause

> heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our

times. " --

> Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt

> University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher.

>

> The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics

> <http://www.thincs.org>

> ----------------------------

>

> >

>

April 10, 2004

> Re: Watch an amalgam realease it's toxin!

>

> NEVER ever use a chelator while the amalgams are still in your mouth.

>

> You will get quite ill as the mercury will be liberated and re-deposited.

>Wait til you get the amalgams out and THEN chelate.

>

> in Germany

I've been eating chelators my entire life, and so has probably every one who

ever had mercury amalgams. I'd have to cut meat (alpha lipoic acid) and

greens (chlorella) out of my diet in order to not consume chelators, and

that ain't gonna happen. My health went south when I DID cut way down on

meat back when I was trying to be a veg. I'm not about to go there again!

But, if you're talking about DMSA and the like, that will be part of my

post-amalgam removal protocol.

Also, the vapor is being liberated *anyway* and as I understand it, some

chelators escort it out of the body via the urine and stool. I believe

that's the rationale I've read for eating chelators. If you don't and the

mercury's being liberated every time you chew, it WILL end up elsewhere in

the body, won't it? I mean without anything to escort it out, where's it

gonna go?

Suze Fisher

Lapdog Design, Inc.

Web Design & Development

Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine

----------------------------

“The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause

heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times.” --

Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt

University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher.

The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics

http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2001/may2001_report_mercury_3.html

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>

April 10, 2004

BTW, here's an example of a PRE-amalgam removal chelation protocol. They

recommend staring this at least two weeks BEFORE amalgam removal. Note that

it includes both ALA and chlorella.

Suze Fisher

Lapdog Design, Inc.

Web Design & Development

Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine

----------------------------

“The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause

heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times.” --

Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt

University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher.

The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics